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Who is going to pay for the HUGE shortfall in government pension funds? Bend ove America, here it comes!!!

The Govenor 2012/06/19 13:48:55

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) — Recession-plagued states diverted scarce money away from pensions to pay for more immediate concerns, leaving a $757 billion hole in the retirement fundscovering millions of public employees, according to a study released Monday.

The Pew Center on the States found 34 states failed to maintain safe levels of money in the pension funds, which most experts agree is about 80 percent of long-term obligations. Four states — Connecticut, Illinois, Kentucky and Rhode Island — didn't even have 55 percent of the money they'll need in the long run.

The total gap between the money states had available and what they'll have to pay out in the decades ahead reached $757 billion in 2010, the most recent year for which figures are available. That was up 9 percent from the year before, according to the study entitled "The Widening Gap Update."

The Pew Center found most states were trying to address the funding gap, either through cutting benefits for future employees or requiring workers to pay more of their own money into their retirement funds. Some went after benefits for current employees, triggering court battles. States also adopted more conservative estimates for what they'll earn on investments down the road.

Pensions aren't the only retirement problem. States also faced a $627 billion shortfall in health care services for retirees. Essentially, for every $1 they'll eventually have to pay out in health care, states had set aside only 5 cents.

"So why should Americans care about these funding gaps? Because the larger they are the higher the cost to taxpayers today and for many years to come," said David Draine, a senior researcher for the Pew Center on the States.

Nationwide, some 22.5 million public workers fall under a state pension plan. When states fall behind in their retirement contributions, they'll have to come up with even more money later to make up the difference. In addition, pension and retiree health costs are growing, driving up state expenses even more. That leaves states less and less each year to spend on education, public safety and other government services.

Illinois had the worst funding level at just 45 percent. Officials there say fixing the problem is a top priority, but a proposal to cut cost-of-living increases for current employees and retirees has stalled in the General Assembly.

"Pensions are the biggest mountain we have to climb," Gov. Pat Quinn, a Chicago Democrat, said Monday.

While the new report looks at figures from 2010, pension expert Robert Rich, said there's no reason to think the situation has improved significantly.

Rich, executive director at the University of Illinois' Institute of Government and Public Affairs, stressed that the recession was not the chief cause of the pension problem, although it contributed by eating away at the value of investments. For years, states failed to pay their full share of pension costs, he said, so the problem won't be wiped away if the economy improves.

"It took us a long time to get into this hole, and it's going to take a long time to get out of it," Rich said.

The problem may be even larger than the report indicates. Many states calculate their funding levels by assuming an 8 percent return on their investments, a level that many experts believe is no longer realistic.

The Pew Center said that from 2009 to 2011, 43 states cut benefits for future employees, required them to pay more or did both. And six states took similar action in 2012.

Some states also cut benefits for people who have retired already. However, public-employee unions argue that amounts to breaking a contract, and some state constitutions impose tough restrictions on cutting benefits. So going after benefits for current employees and current retirees can result in legal challenges.

Staff at the Pew Center said Rhode Island has been most aggressive in overhauling its pension systems to cut costs. The state, whose systems were only 49 percent funded in 2010, decided to cut retirement benefits for current employees as well as those hired in the future. Officials limited cost-of-living increases, raised the retirement age from 62 to 67 and changed the formula for calculating benefits.

They also put workers in a new hybrid retirement system that combines elements of the traditional system where retirees are guaranteed a certain level of benefits and new 401(k)-style systems were money is invested on behalf of the retiree.

Rich, from the University of Illinois, questioned the emphasis on cutting benefits when much of the pension problem was created by states failing to contribute their share to retirement systems. States also should be promising to put more money into retirement systems over the long run, he said.

"It's neither shared sacrifice nor fairness if it's only employees who are paying for the problem," Rich said.

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  • none 2012/06/19 19:33:46
    none
    +6
    Let the public sector unions that demanded and got unreasonable and absurd pensions pay for it. The have the money and I sure as hell don't want to pay for a pension that's four times better than my own.

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  • S. Gompers 2012/08/01 15:28:23
    S. Gompers
    +1
    Don't worry, rest assured the Congressional and Presidential pensions are doing fine! and so is their healthcare...
  • santa6642 2012/08/01 14:50:41
    santa6642
    +1
    just like we who are disabled vets , TS & pay it your self the private sectot unions.
  • Fariborz-Zak 2012/08/01 06:04:23
    Fariborz-Zak
    +1
    pensioners
  • The Gov... Faribor... 2012/08/01 15:31:53
    The Govenor
    More like prisoners.
  • Mike 2012/06/19 21:04:38
    Mike
    +2
    Just like the private sector - sorry we have no money
  • none 2012/06/19 19:33:46
    none
    +6
    Let the public sector unions that demanded and got unreasonable and absurd pensions pay for it. The have the money and I sure as hell don't want to pay for a pension that's four times better than my own.
  • The Gov... none 2012/06/19 21:13:00
    The Govenor
    +4
    But you WILL and you have NO choice in the matter. Bend ova!!!
  • none The Gov... 2012/06/19 23:43:45
    none
    +2
    Got that right, my comment was wishful thinking and what should happen although I know it won't.
  • The Gov... none 2012/06/20 01:15:55
    The Govenor
    +3
    Sorry for the pessimism, I'm with ya in tryin' to take our country back.
  • none The Gov... 2012/06/20 03:52:52
    none
    +2
    Hell yes, give me the Constitutional small government our founding fathers had in mind not the bloated excuse we've got now.
  • The Gov... none 2012/06/20 03:56:01
    The Govenor
    +1
    I hope it is not beyond the point of no return.
  • none The Gov... 2012/06/20 03:57:31
    none
    +1
    You and me both.
  • The Gov... none 2012/06/20 04:11:39
    The Govenor
    +1
    There are a lot of people feeding at the trough who ain't gonna like a dose of reality.
  • none The Gov... 2012/06/20 17:31:27
    none
    +1
    Too many Americans with their hand out.
  • The Gov... none 2012/06/21 02:58:56
  • none The Gov... 2012/06/21 15:24:28
    none
    +1
    With only about 50% of Americans paying taxes we're in big trouble.
  • The Gov... none 2012/06/21 15:43:01
    The Govenor
    That doesn't concern me as much as the percentage of people feeding at the trough. It's one thing to not qualify to pay but working and not sucking, it's another to be dependent on somebody else's paycheck to live your life.
  • santa6642 2012/06/19 17:29:05
    santa6642
    +2
    they can join the auto workers who had their pensions destroyed., And maybe recieve a third of what might have been.
  • ray 2012/06/19 16:53:43
    ray
    +2
    Immediate conversion to a Defined Contribution plan would be the first step.
  • DM Twin 2012/06/19 16:12:25
    DM Twin
    +2
    gggg

    WHAT WAS THE QUESTION AGAIN ???....
  • The Gov... DM Twin 2012/06/19 19:38:22
    The Govenor
    +1
    IDK, I forgot, lol.
  • DM Twin The Gov... 2012/06/19 22:33:43
    DM Twin
    +1
    Macrame' Bikinis will do that to ya .
  • The Gov... DM Twin 2012/06/20 01:17:58
    The Govenor
    +1
    I wouldn't know but the hottie (especially Latina) will get ya every time.
  • lm1b2 2012/06/19 15:49:02
    lm1b2
    To begin with the States should not have the right to touch their pension plans,anymore then the Federal Governments looting of SS.How many of you people would like to retire,and find out your money is not their,because the people who are suppose to represent you used it for something else?These plans should be permanently funded !
  • DM Twin lm1b2 2012/06/19 22:35:16
    DM Twin
    +2
    Talk to Slick -Willie about Looting Social Security.. He did that on the way out the door so it would APPEAR there was a surpus...Otherwise his legacy would be impeachment and taking advantage of a hobag .
  • mwg0735 2012/06/19 15:04:23
  • Kane Fernau 2012/06/19 14:33:55
    Kane Fernau
    +5
    Welcome to GREECE!!!!!!!!
  • Reichstolz 2012/06/19 14:32:27
    Reichstolz
    +5
    "So why should Americans care about these funding gaps? Because the larger they are the higher the cost to taxpayers today and for many years to come," - Actually thanks to the victory of Scott Walker in WI, we can use that example and tell the public union monkeys to pound sand, when their bloated pension funds run out of money.

    The time has come to tell public union monkeys, your free lunch is over. Yes, you spent your dues, to get union friendly politicians elected, to agree to give you benefits you never earned. Too bad the taxpayer paying for your worthless life is finally waking up to the fact that you are not worth a dime.

    As states become more cash strapped in the coming decade, you union monkeys best find another way to fund your life.
  • The Gov... Reichstolz 2012/06/19 19:40:24
    The Govenor
    +2
    Yup!! That pretty much sums it up.
  • Risk 2012/06/19 14:18:01
    Risk
    +4
    Illinois last Republican Gov., left IL with a 1 billion dollar surplus, ( 1991 ) then the Democrats took over and ran it ever since. ( Before anyone corrects me Gov. Ryan the poster child for a RINO called himself a Republican but was in bed with mayor Daley and the Chicago politicians from day one and of course he is in prison now along with our other Democratic Gov., Rod Blagojevich. ) The entire state in the last election went Republican except Cook Co. ( Chicago ) and 2 very small counties in the southern area of the state. However Chicago won out and once again Illinois has a Democrat Gov. who is just as bad as the others.
    People need to wake up and see what the hell the Democrats have done to Illinois in the past 11-12 years, they really need to pay attention to what going Liberal is doing to the entire country and the best example is what our present Chicago trained president is doing. The same damn thing that has happened to our state is now happening to our country, WAKE UP ...WAKE UP ... WAKE UP ! ! !
  • The Gov... Risk 2012/06/19 14:23:39
    The Govenor
    +6
    The tidal wave is approaching.
  • Kane Fe... Risk 2012/06/19 14:35:43
    Kane Fernau
    +7
    Illinois and California are the perfect example of democrat RULE!

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