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  • **StarzAbove** 2012/05/07 17:20:14
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    The president just took out BinLaden, that says it all. Romeny's only experience is hiding his money in out of country bank accounts.

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  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/09 20:06:22
    Uranos7
    You don't collect unemployment if the firing is justifiable and the way things are in Washington they are jusifiable.
    Obama is already making this a two class society Poor and Poorer with his banker and auto buddies being exempt from the culling.
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/09 20:49:14 (edited)
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    LMAO...

    Sure believe what you want, but I know first hand that whether you're fired or not, people will still collect unemployment.

    BTW... since Obama been in office, I found permanate employment.

    So I don't have a problem with Obama... You can hate the man all you want... but I didn't lose my job on his watch! So I really could care less what you say about the man. All I know is in my 30 years of employment, I've never lost a job under a Dem... but when a Rep is in the WH, I've lost 3 jobs... so again... whine all you want....
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/10 01:52:15
    Uranos7
    Your personal experience does not change the numbers and numbers say that more people are unemployed under Obama.
    I do not vote strict party lines I vote by the person.
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/10 13:49:43
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    Oh sure... was those numbers or unemployment started under the recession that start back in 2006?

    LMAO... If you didn't vote party lines you follow timelines...

    So Barry lie to someone else.
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/10 19:19:37
    Uranos7
    So Bush was able to keep unemployment under 8 for the entire time he was in charge but orchestrate it so that once he was out of office it would spike up to 10 and stay at 9 for 2 years and there would be nothing the next president could do to stop it.
    I did not realize you democrats credited him with that much intelligence. If he was able to do thaat he is a true financial genius.
    What does that say about Obama.
    unprecednted failure
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/10 20:39:13 (edited)
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    LMAO...

    Why would you think Bush was that smart? It only stayed up because the GOPSac'ers in congress wanted it to stay up.

    Barry, I thought you knew this... your spin won't work here!

    GOP spin
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/10 21:09:19
    Uranos7
    So the republican congress was able to keep the unemployment low but once the democrats got a majority it began to climb.
    Yet More proof republibans are better than democrats at serving the people.
    [ democrat majority in 2006 same time it started climbing]
    bad congress
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/10 21:14:23
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    LMAO... another spin Barry?

    gop no
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/10 21:59:08
    Uranos7
    You admitted that hte GOP controlled unemployment better and kept it lower than democrats.
    blame bush
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/10 22:43:24 (edited)
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    Tell us Barry why did the GOP say no to Obama's job bill then?

    You seem to dismiss facts... we all know that the GOP wants Obama to fail... That's nothing new... but since GOPSac played that card, then they are just as much the problem...

    I don't understand why you can't see that... Both sides should have worked together to create jobs... but they didn't.. and to stand here an just blame Obama doesn't work Barry.

    Sorry but be accountable as well as you like to hold Obama too, and you might get some respect.
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/11 00:33:00
    Uranos7
    Mitch McConnell (Ky.), reacting to press reports, said more stimulus spending was not the answer for the nation's economic ills. After the president’s speech, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) quickly released a statement that said the president was offering more of the same “failed” policies.

    Basically what the republicans have been saying is 'pay for what you got before you spend any more'.
    Obama has spent and spent but has no idea how to pay for the things he wants. You must give in order to get but instead if he doesn't get he P.E.O.'s it. So we get deeper and deeper in debt.
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/11 14:26:30
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    LMAO. Barry...

    How much can you survive off of nothing?

    Mitch McConnell? Your kidding right? The same guy who publicly said that basically the GOP wasn't going to do a thing while Obama was in office?

    Please... McConnell is nothing but a Grover Norquist whore. In order to get a greater tax base, we have to put more people to work... If people don't work, the tax base decreases...

    Yet what goes up Barry?

    Now Barry between this wonderful gap in time you and GOPSac seem to think people can survive without jobs somehow, tell us... How much can one survive off of nothing?

    Barry, not sure if you and GOPSac know this, but it takes money to live and survive.

    And we've had 40 years of Reaganomics... Yet the gap between the rich and the poor has widen...

    Conservative talking points don't put food on the unemployed table Barry.

    Once you and Mitch understand this, you might want to get up off your asses and stimulate the economy... Otherwise it you that's setting the rest of us to pick up the bill for more misery to come.

    This is the accountability I'm talking about...

    Both sides speak out of their butts... while real Americans go broke.
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/11 17:24:09
    Uranos7
    You can make all the xcuses for Obama you want but he took the responsibility and could not handle the job.
    He is not the first nor will he be the last to have a contrary congress. He just had no experience to know how to handle them. Every president has had problems with congress even Clinton had problems with his democratic congress.
    It's part of the job, one he was not and is not ready for.
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/11 18:35:32
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    LMAO Barry...

    Right back into blaming Obama mode.

    Where did I say Obama wasn't responsible? Never once did I say that... But I did state and you've proven that you and GOPSac don't have the courage also to take responsibility.

    Barry why would I support failure on either side...

    That's what you're not getting...

    But come back with another blame it on Obama comment...

    It's fun watching you blame others when I show you also how screwed up you and GOPSac are as well.
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/11 18:57:38
    Uranos7
    More than 40 percent of Americans who actually are employed are now working in service jobs, which are often very low paying.
    Approximately 21 percent of all children in the United States are living below the poverty line in 2010 - the highest rate in 20 years.
    What do most Americans have to offer in the marketplace other than their labor? Not much. The truth is that most Americans are absolutely dependent on someone else giving them a job. But today, U.S. workers are "less attractive" than ever. Compared to the rest of the world, American workers are extremely expensive, and the government keeps passing more rules and regulations seemingly on a monthly basis that makes it even more difficult to conduct business in the United States.

    So companies are moving out of the United States more and more. The more we try to 'tax the rich' the more that will move out.
    So what is the solution?.
    Americans are the problem, I see people come here from other countries work 2 jobs stay 6 to haouse for years then open thier own shop, resturaunt, or business from the savings.
    Why is this not happenning for Americans, is because we have become too lazy and expect the government to hand us everthing on a sliver platter. The rich got rich by making smart investments or working hard or both. Yet w...
    More than 40 percent of Americans who actually are employed are now working in service jobs, which are often very low paying.
    Approximately 21 percent of all children in the United States are living below the poverty line in 2010 - the highest rate in 20 years.
    What do most Americans have to offer in the marketplace other than their labor? Not much. The truth is that most Americans are absolutely dependent on someone else giving them a job. But today, U.S. workers are "less attractive" than ever. Compared to the rest of the world, American workers are extremely expensive, and the government keeps passing more rules and regulations seemingly on a monthly basis that makes it even more difficult to conduct business in the United States.

    So companies are moving out of the United States more and more. The more we try to 'tax the rich' the more that will move out.
    So what is the solution?.
    Americans are the problem, I see people come here from other countries work 2 jobs stay 6 to haouse for years then open thier own shop, resturaunt, or business from the savings.
    Why is this not happenning for Americans, is because we have become too lazy and expect the government to hand us everthing on a sliver platter. The rich got rich by making smart investments or working hard or both. Yet when once they would have been admired for that accomplishment now they are instead demonized and blamed for the problems of those that are not willing to make sacrifices to get ahead.
    (more)
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/11 19:27:46
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    Oh please Barry... more talking points drivel...

    Let's at least be honest... computer innovation in making manufacturing more productive has been one things that caused many high paying positions to disappear.

    And with that, people in other countries work for less... They don't need that skill set which was used for technical manufacturing because it's mainly computer driven.

    When all you need are other to assemble the parts; then those foreign workers are nothing but a honeypot for corporations...

    It has nothing to do with being lazy Barry... which is the excuse (red herring) that your trying to pimp down everyone's throat.

    Tell us Barry... those people your so proud to feature... what is their life style Barry? 3 or 4 families willing to live under one roof so they can combine all those minimum wage dollar together to increase their commune wealth?

    That's how they do it Barry, but you like everyone to think that people working min wage jobs are nothing but lazy Americans.

    I've seen that for myself Barry... remember I live in South Texas... so I've seen it up close and personal.

    Let's be honest Barry, only giving half-truths about the reality here in America is a dis-service.
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/11 19:42:57 (edited)
    Uranos7
    +1
    "That's how they do it Barry, but you like everyone to think that people working min wage jobs are nothing but lazy Americans"
    Been there done that so no I don't but the ones that do that while buying stuff out of thier price range on credit while whinning about legal immagrants doing well and the government needs to give them more stuff YES.
    BTW I was stationed at Fort Bliss so I do know what south Texas is like.
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/11 19:56:04
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    Wow... My birthplace.. But that's the only thing we have in common Barry.

    Barry we know that there are some Americans which are lazy, but the association attacks with then tied into Liberals is making your arguments nothing more then "red herrings".

    I know many liberals that get pissed every time they see these "lazy" people line up at the groceries store with LoneStar cards. It's not just conservatives that are mad about it....

    Barry, ur attacking the group... you convinced yourself as well that a certain lot of conservatives don't take advantage of the system as well.

    Did you know a couple pleaded guilty this week on welfare fraud... they lived in 1.2 million dollar home... But as you see, I'm not casting them to either partisan ideology..

    I'm happy that they got caught...
    Last week over 150 Healthcare professional were arrested for Medicaid fraud.

    Things are happening Barry... maybe not fast enough, but things are changing...

    Point is, instead of all this partisan bickering, maybe we need to start working together...

    Drop the ideology and only support people who want to resolve today's problems instead of those just wanting to point fingers...

    Neither side is winning from my POV.
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/11 20:11:52
    Uranos7
    +1
    Totally agree.
    The thing I liked about Clinton was that instead of just throwing more money into welfare he reformed the system getting people off that did not need it so that we could continue to take care of the people that did.
    Much of what he did has been undone and needs to be re-instated.
    But now when anyone talks about reforming or cutting welfare the knee jerk reaction is that the GOP is trying to starve children.
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/11 20:40:35
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    I think the knee jerk reaction is partisan speak...

    If Grover N. and that effin pledge he's gotten so many conservatives bound with wasn't in effect, then I think the GOP would be in a better position to work with Dems...

    And that's what's killing it... They had a moderate Rep Senator this week lose out to a Tea Party candidate... Which won't compromise on anything... so that why you see all the "red herring" comments about throwing "grandma" under the bus coming from the Libs..

    It's simple Barry if your willing to step back and look at how both sides are playing America.
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/11 21:23:19
    Uranos7
    Never doubted that.
    The trick is to play the players by voting for the one that represents the job needed to be done at the time. Right now we need fiscal responsibility not more spending.
    Every budget Obama and the democrats put forward in the last 4 years has had a stellar debt accompanying it so it is time to put a more restrained spender in to get it under control.
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/11 21:31:00
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    Well that's the rub...

    Barry, we're just not going to get the "fiscal" movement based only on conservative ideology...

    That's what you need to figure out there...

    This country can not succeed until we come together.
    So bit of advise. Quit blaming just the left... Blame both sides... Hold both sides accountable and remember, it's Americans in the middle between the two is who they are suppose to be working for...

    The problem right now is we don't trust either sides ideas...

    And we're not about to either.

    Be both know that neither side puts up budgets that will pass...

    So get over the blame game.
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/11 22:22:14
    Uranos7
    Obama accepted the responsibility, Obama failed to live up to that responsibility, time to get someone who will.
    http://home.adelphi.edu/sbloc...
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/14 15:54:13
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    LMAO....

    Barry you still don't get it... BOTH PARTIES SUCK!

    Um did Bush accept the responsibility of his failed wars?

    And he got voted back in... So if Obama get's re-elected, you'll know just how the other half of America felt about Bush's second term...
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/14 19:47:24
    Uranos7
    Yes he accepted responsibility, and that is why he was re-elected. Obama blames everyone and everything else which is why he will not be re-elected.
    obama blame game
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/14 19:49:48
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    The question was Barry... DID BUSH ACCEPT the responsibility of his FAILED wars?

    See it's what you refuse to deal with... I'm okay with Obama's failures... as you said already he accepted them...
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/14 20:10:45
    Uranos7
    No Obama is still blaming others.
    I did not vote for Bush the second time either. ;}
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/14 22:10:17
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    Why can 't you answer Barry?

    It's a simple question... Did Bush ACCEPT the responsibility of his FAILED administration?

    Yes or No?

    Don't come back with Obama Barry.... Only a yes or no please.
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/14 22:45:39
    Uranos7
    What failure?
    Compared to Obama's his was awesome.
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/15 12:39:46
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    See you couldn't do it Barry... That's why I can't respect you.
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/15 17:05:35
    Uranos7
    If your talking about the wars i don't see them as failures I was there the first Iraq war and when we got the orders to pull out many of us wanted to go awol and finish the job . So we saw going back as finishing the job we started.
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/15 18:33:49
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    Well did you find all those WMD's up Bush's arse? That's why you went to Iraq....

    And guess who got the mission accomplished a year ago?

    Just admit it Barry... Here's your change...

    Just say Bush Fukked up Barry,,,
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/15 19:17:48
    Uranos7
    +1
    The offensive missiles discovered are an entirely different matter. The weapons are offensive in nature and definitely threatened peace in the region. They could have killed many civilians in surrounding countries. These WMD missiles were legally sold to Saddam by an irresponsible Western government seeking profit and influence. The sales strengthened the repressive regime of Saddam Hussein. They helped protect Saddam from international pressure and made international pressure against his government for killing his own people much less effective
    http://www.democratictalkradi...
    See there were WMD's and Bush did know they were there because we sold them to Saddam.
    Which is no surprise to me because I trained with Iraqi troops back in the 80's when we were friendly.

    FACT: In June of 2006 the National Ground Intelligence Center, a Defense Department intelligence unit, released portions of a declassified report which stated unequivocally that "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent."



    FACT: In a January 2008 report on 60 minutes, top CIA operative George Piro revealed that Saddam Hussein had phased out his biological weapons program since the 90s but was willing to go to war with the U.S., beca...




    The offensive missiles discovered are an entirely different matter. The weapons are offensive in nature and definitely threatened peace in the region. They could have killed many civilians in surrounding countries. These WMD missiles were legally sold to Saddam by an irresponsible Western government seeking profit and influence. The sales strengthened the repressive regime of Saddam Hussein. They helped protect Saddam from international pressure and made international pressure against his government for killing his own people much less effective
    http://www.democratictalkradi...
    See there were WMD's and Bush did know they were there because we sold them to Saddam.
    Which is no surprise to me because I trained with Iraqi troops back in the 80's when we were friendly.

    FACT: In June of 2006 the National Ground Intelligence Center, a Defense Department intelligence unit, released portions of a declassified report which stated unequivocally that "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent."



    FACT: In a January 2008 report on 60 minutes, top CIA operative George Piro revealed that Saddam Hussein had phased out his biological weapons program since the 90s but was willing to go to war with the U.S., because he needed to continue the illusion that he had an active WMD program, as a hedge against his arch enemy, Iran. He apparently had no idea that the U.S. was planning such an exhaustive offensive, or he would’ve reconsidered that strategy.

    FACT: Saddam was planning on restarting his program on every level (nuclear and biological), approximately one year after U.N. sanctions were lifted. This explains why he was actively approaching North Africa for the procurement of yellow cake. This also explains why 550 metric tons of the stuff was removed from Iraq in 2008 courtesy of the United States of America
    http://mythoughtworld.com/142...

    We knew he had WMD's partly because we and other allies of ours sold them or thier components to him. We also knew from intelligence he had bought or tried to buy the stuff we wouldn't sell him from others.
    (more)
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/15 19:58:43
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    Well finally I see this is your way of admitting Bush and Co. fukked up Barry.

    Nice... But I already knew all of this Barry... and BTW, Reagan and Bush didn't sell Saddam WMD's... they just allowed the sell of chemical and biological agents to Saddam.

    One of my points against the GOP is that we knowingly were involved with arming a terrorist that used WMD's against his own, yet we were the one's arming this terrorist. So why be alarmed? You've also already admitted that Saddam was using WMD's as leverage in regional issues.

    Do we need to go any further in understanding why we shouldn't have wasted blood and treasure in Iraq or even Afghan, because it again was us that helped create that monster as well?

    My question is and still has Bush and the GOP ever held themselves accountable for this?

    Why would I support people like this Barry? They're by far worst then Obama and the Libs.
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/15 20:05:38
    Uranos7
    Yes we made the mistake of arming the taliban and Iraq.
    But doesn't that also make us responsible for fixing our mistake?
    In a way the war was just that, we created the problem and when they betrayed us and used them innapropriately we had to fix the problem we caused.
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/16 13:12:01
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    LMAO...

    you missed the point.... Why were we arming terrorist in the first place! Before you go to justify us making a bigger hole with war actions, why not be reasonable and think about the actions taken before war.

    Hans Blix had already accounted for 95% of Saddam's WMD's... yet all he asked for was 6 more weeks to account for the rest...

    War wasn't the answer Barry...
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/16 17:42:00
    Uranos7
    The genocidal maniac was still alive and in chage of the country once the UN restrictions were lifted he would have started all over again.
    So on that one we will just have to agree to disagree.
    I wanted him dead and would have done it myself if allowed to and most of the people I served with felt the same.
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/16 17:47:10
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    Well don't we live by crystal balls... You got all that in one reading?

    I much rather like today's tactic...

    Take him out with a drone strike...
  • Uranos7 Contard... 2012/05/16 18:56:18
    Uranos7
    Like when a father and a boy were taken hostage in yemen and they used a drone attack to kil everyone; terrorist, father, and child.
    ‘You cannot call me lucky’ – drones injure over 1,100
    The attack on September 7 2009 was aimed at a militant leader who was never there (see Ob34). But 15-year-old student Sadaullah paid a terrible price for survival, losing both legs and an eye in the strike.
    http://www.thebureauinvestiga...
  • Contard... Uranos7 2012/05/16 18:59:46
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    Barry... How many died in "Shock and Awe"? Yet you're all for that..

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