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You’ll have to pardon Republicans if they snigger a bit at an essay penned by Democratic National Committee Chairman Tim Kaine for the latest issue of U.S. News & World Report, in which the former Virginia governor says blaming his party for America’s economic mess is a mistake.

“In 2008, Americans voted for change—for a Democratic president and Congress that would put the needs of middle-class families above special-interest priorities,” Kaine wrote. “Now Americans are again taking stock of their leaders. They are asking: What do we have to show for the last two years? The answer: quite a bit.”

As the relentless drumbeat of warnings about a potential congressional takeover by the GOP next week continues, Kaine wants to set the record straight about his party's role in our economic crisis.

“President Obama and Democrats in Congress stopped the health insurance industry's worst practices,” he explained. “As a result, no child can be denied insurance because of asthma and no mother's insurance will be rescinded because of breast cancer. They ended billions of dollars in wasteful subsidies to student-loan companies, redirecting that money to college students and universities. Now more American students can pursue a college degree. They stopped taxpayer bailouts of Wall Street and enacted new legislation to protect families from unscrupulous lending practices by banks and credit card companies. As a result, our economy is more stable and American families' finances are better protected.”

Despite all that, Kaine acknowledged that the electorate is unsatisfied, mostly because so many people remain unemployed. But putting the blame solely on Democrats is not the answer, he insisted. He praised his party for pulling the country out of the abyss after “nearly a decade of failed GOP leadership,” which he said got us where we are today.

“While congressional Democrats took vote after vote on the basic financial reforms needed to rebuild our economy... congressional Republicans held strategy sessions with Wall Street lobbyists, devising new ways to defeat or delay those reforms,” he said, finally pointing a specific finger at what he claims are the party’s differing priorities.

“Indeed, if Republicans win this fall's elections, they have made it clear that they will pursue the same wrongheaded policies that got America into an economic mess in the first place.”

In the end, he wrote, the choice is moving forward with Democrats or going back to the future with Republicans?

Do you think Kaine is right?

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  • texasred 2010/10/26 19:28:04
    Democrats
    texasred
    +12
    I'd lean more to blaming the Republicans if the Dems hadn't controlled the house since 2006. Knowing that... and the fact that the Progressives want to destroy this nation in order to rebuild it to their liking... there's no question the Dems are to blame.

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  • prospero 2010/10/29 16:35:28
    Republicans
    prospero
    bush and chaney !
  • ALofRI 2010/10/28 20:05:22
    Republicans
    ALofRI
    The Democrats must share in the blame too, but to a lesser extent. It originated with the Republicans but has shifted over the last two years to the Corporate Communists that are backing them (read...controlling them),until they, once again, get a free hand to do as they wish.

    Would anyone like to "deregulate" our highways? Our Hospitals? Our food supply? Highways, hospitals and food supplies with no regulations would kill millions over a year! Banks, Insurance companies, governments without regulations will ruin countries AND lives! Deregulation is just another way of concentrating the wealth to those who will control us! I say, We the People should do the controlling, NOT the CEO's!
  • yankel 2010/10/27 21:59:36
    Undecided
    yankel
  • tncdel 2010/10/27 21:26:21
    Undecided
    tncdel
    Both parties are to blame to some degree. I see posters blaming Bush "for getting us into this mess." But the reality is that the Democrats took over back in 2006, then proceeded to make an even bigger mess out of it.

    On that basis, I'd have to say OBJECTIVELY, as an Independent [neither a Republican nor a Democrat], that it's approximately a 70-30 for blaming the Democrats.

    Bottomline: If we were able to return to the $2 trillion National Debt Bush handed Obama two years ago [before Obama QUADRUPLED it], we'd be a whole lot better off.

    Further, even "60 Minutes" and other leftwing media are finally admitting that unemployment is actually about TWICE as high as Obama claims, or around FOUR TIMES what it was when Obama took office.

    So although you can blame Bush to some degree, the Democrats are mostly to blame.
  • ahbmasg486bd 2010/10/27 19:52:02
    Democrats
    ahbmasg486bd
    Democrats never fess up to anything.
  • Mike 2010/10/27 19:48:44
    Democrats
    Mike
    +1
    this explanes obama.

  • freetobeme 2010/10/27 19:48:02
    Democrats
    freetobeme
    +1
    The democrats have had control of the house and the senate since 2007, they have spent and spent and spent then the people elected obama and he printed money and they spent, he printed money and they spent and passed spending bills every other day, passed the obamacare bill, lied about the cost of that and we end up 5 trillion dollars in debt. The car in the ditch was in D when it went over the cliff!
  • les_gvt 2010/10/27 19:42:41
    Undecided
    les_gvt
    I see the poll left off the true answer.- The American people-

    We keep expecting to get our little hand out from the government, and thus, keep sending the person that promises us everything is free, and refuse to face the reality that nothing in life is free

    We are rapidly approaching the point to where it is time to pay the piper
  • JimBelcher 2010/10/27 19:20:00
    Democrats
    JimBelcher
    +1
    Democrats are at the helm. Controlling both the executive and legislative branches, it isn't getting any better on their watch. Heck, even the Dems are splitting on whether this admisnistration is going in the right direction.

    Tim Kaine bailed out on Virginia as Governor, taking this position as DNC Chairman while still Governor of Virginia, leaving us to run on autopilot while he played politics at the next level. I have no respect for him for that. He was a good Governor until he tried to do two jobs at one time, leaving us to hang out and dry.

    If you are in charge, you are responsible...period. The health care debacle is not a good example of what they are doing right...it is an example of big brother telling the voters and taxpayers the government knows what is best for them, and you will pay for it regardless of what you think, if we tell you you must.
  • Prag 2010/10/27 19:05:53
    Undecided
    Prag
    +1
    Both are at fault and you can't tell the difference when their in power. Neither party cares for the public's view of the nations problems or priorities. It's a game to see who can hold on to power longer and benefit there true constituents the most. The Dems elitist liberal socialists or the GOP corporate money bags.
  • johnc 2010/10/27 18:04:05
    Democrats
    johnc
    +1
    congress spends the money, democrats took over the congress in 06, then the great fall happened.
  • Scottie 2010/10/27 17:04:09
    Democrats
    Scottie
    +2
    WHO HAS BEEN IN CHARGE OF CONGRESS SINCE 2007???? AND THE WHITE HOUSE SINCE 2009????
  • LORROL 2010/10/27 16:47:38
    Republicans
    LORROL
    +2
    I find it amusing that we gave Reagan a second term to turn around the first recession \ that he didn't cause but we will not give Obama the same courtesy with the one he did not cause. Let's see someone here stand in front of a avalanche and tell it to stop.
  • johnc LORROL 2010/10/27 18:06:33
    johnc
    When a president takes a car in the ditch and pushes it over the cliff, it is time for him/her to go. Now if he was going in the right direction he would be given more time, but in 22 months Bama sure has taken us in the wrong direction, How much distruction do you want?
  • LORROL johnc 2010/10/27 18:44:26
    LORROL
    +1
    What happened during Reagan's first 2 years. Did things improve?
  • JimBelcher LORROL 2010/10/27 19:22:09
    JimBelcher
    Yes...I was there.
  • LORROL JimBelcher 2010/10/28 03:25:53
    LORROL
    +1
    So was I. they did not stop declining until year and did not go up until year 6.
  • JimBelcher LORROL 2010/10/28 15:09:49 (edited)
    JimBelcher
    Through rose colored glasses. We saw two different things. You chose to forget how bad it was the preceeding four years with Carter at the helm. Reagan lifted this country in a way you obviously do not understand. We agree to disagree.
  • LORROL JimBelcher 2010/10/28 15:12:53
    LORROL
    +1
    Did I ever say it was better with Carter? I was talking about efforts to pull us out of the reccesion and how much time it took Reagan vs time being given to Obama. On the rest I agree to disagree.
  • JimBelcher LORROL 2010/10/28 15:21:58 (edited)
    JimBelcher
    No...in fact, there is a lot you didn't say, so I'm sorry if I brought ONE of them up. My point is, you state Reagan is responsible for this country's economic woes, and I disagree. Aside from he being out of office for the past 22 years, and the fact that so many other people aside from Presidents have performed poorly and added to our economic woes, I would bring this back to the original point...that people today are far more responsible for our country's economic woes TODAY than a single Republican President you don't admire that last served in 1988. That's my point. I understand yours.
  • LORROL JimBelcher 2010/10/28 17:33:33
    LORROL
    Are you reading anything I write? Please show me where I said that Reagan is responsible for our economic woes. Now you go off on a tangent blaming individuals for our economic woes but this is a tangent I can agree with. Our economic woes are because of individuals who gambled with our money (and lost it) and people moving jobs overseas when they were given the economic incentive to do so by the, then republican, congress and president. This mess started about 8 years ago when those changes were made and picked up momentum almost 3 years ago This whole conversation started because I said give Obama 4 years to stop the down trend and 6 years to turn it around like you did for Reagan.
  • JimBelcher LORROL 2010/10/29 13:17:32
    JimBelcher
    You are correct...you did not say Reagan was responsible for our country's economic woes.

    And to respond to the original statement...give Obama two terms to fix it...well, all I can say to that is after Reagan's 1st term, I personally had confidence we were heading in the right direction. At the end of Obama's first term, I will make a similar judgement. I guess I am feeling right now that I don't have any confidence he is moving things in the right direction. I see too much waste, theft, and huge unaccounted-for sums of bailout and economic relief money disappearing, and too many Washington & Chicago buzzards circling and getting fatter.

    Sorry I misinterpreted what you were saying earlier.
  • LORROL JimBelcher 2010/10/30 04:09:23
    LORROL
    Glad we are not getting to the shouting stage. Been a pleasure talking with you. Time will let us see what happens. I am worried the republicans are going to continue not being involved with the process of restoring America even if they do take over the congress.
  • JimBelcher LORROL 2010/11/02 12:16:01
    JimBelcher
    I totally agree with that statement...in fact, I can guarantee the Republicans will not be involved. Personally, I have almost no faith in either party. The leadership of both major parties is self-serving and imbedded in exclusion, not inclusion, of the American people and what they want. Business in America is not the enemy, however certain business leaders are...as are certain religious leaders, and certainly outside-the-country influences. They are all recognizable, because all are usually surrounded by discreet but large sums of money.
  • LORROL JimBelcher 2010/11/02 15:01:48
    LORROL
    True enough.
  • ALofRI JimBelcher 2010/10/28 20:10:01
    ALofRI
    I was there too!, Hell, I was there when FDR was pulling us out of another Republican mess! If you think Reagan turned us around, why did GHWB lose HIS election with Clinton saying "It's the economy, stupid!" It didn't turn around until AFTER Reagans successor!
  • JimBelcher ALofRI 2010/10/29 13:26:34 (edited)
    JimBelcher
    I didn't say Reagan "turned us around"..I just said he lifted this country. I didn't blame Reagan for the current economic woes. Although our govt can screw up the economy, it takes business and private sector work to straighten it out. And much of this is cyclical. I personally don't give govt much credit for anything except screwing things up...both parties. I can appreciate that you have seen many more Presidents than I, but to say one party has performed better or worse is a matter of opinion, because in my assessment, they both are raping and pillaging this country, and it's time for a real change. The Chicago group that now has infiltrated the White House is no better than the Arkansas group, the Texas Groups or the California groups. That's how I feel.
  • johnc LORROL 2010/10/27 21:40:52
    johnc
    Even you, if you are old enough, rememer interest rates on homes was around 18%. from the Jimma' Carter years, You may recall inflation @ around 20% from the Jimma' Carter years, Reagan pushed for private sector, Bama wants a socialist government, already the lies of Obama redistribution care are being exposed, As I recall unemployment when Reagan took office was higher than what it was when Bama took over.
    Reagan did not demonize nor marginalize others as Bama does, nor did Reagan play the race card like Bama does. Things did improve under Reagan in the first 2 years, Bama not so much. Yes we have more government involvement in our private lives under Bama, yes we have almost 300,000 more federal employees under Bama, and yes we are loosing more private sector jobs under the Bama regime, and yes allies do not trust us under Bama and our enemies love Bama. Reagan never sided with illegals over American citizens, Bama did. Reagan never did a submissive bow to a muslim leader, Bama did. \
    Now if you want to compare Bama to Carter, they are very close, Bama and Reagan no comparrison but thanks for the laugh.
  • LORROL johnc 2010/10/28 03:32:53
    LORROL
    Funny I have an entire different memory of that time and now. Just flip your comments and it will be about right. The world is fed up with American arrogance that has grown from Reagan through the Bush family. Obama has the world hoping we will be part of the community not the bully we have been for 30 years. No nothing began to improve until his 6th year and took 4 years for the slide to stop. Google Reagan bowing or just Google presidents bowing and you will get a whole parade to see. Your memory is narrowed by your vision.
  • johnc LORROL 2010/10/28 15:24:07
    johnc
    America the bully of the world? I see where you are coming from, Lets get out of defending others, supporting others, going in debt to give money to organizations like Hamas, What the heck, according to you we are hated anyway. 64 years after WWII we are still in Germany and Japan, and 58 years later still in Korea. Lets come home and leave the America hating world to fend for themselves. Now that would be fair.
  • LORROL johnc 2010/10/28 17:56:03
    LORROL
    Try to read this whole post without jumping to conclusions or reading between the lines. Fact check my information and get back to me.

    The US has has over 700 military bases in over 120 countries around the world with over 1/2 million service members and nearly equal number of family members. We were hated for our arrogance and bullying. Most of this has nothing to do with our military but mostly was caused by our business ventures overseas. Are you aware of how many US companies have been kicked out of foreign countries because in their arrogance they bullied and tried to push aside local laws and customs for their personal gain? A good many of our soldiers have been placed overseas to protect our national business interests not to spread democracy. We have made deals with dictators and royalty from Korea to Saudi for the sake of business.

    Go Google US bases overseas and tell me why we need so many troops in so many places. Do all these places need our protection? Are they all strategically important? If yes, why ---- because we are so loved by the rest of the world or because we are so hated.

    Only thing President Obama did was travel around the world stating his intent to be a better partner and better example for the rest of the world to follow because America has always succeeded with the power of example but not so much with the example of our power.

    PS Did you find any of those bowing president pictures or didn't you look.
  • johnc LORROL 2010/10/28 18:08:11
    johnc
    no did not waste my time on your illogical rant. So do you think Germany would go along with us pulling our military out of Gemany? Every time it is suggested Germany fights it, No. 1 we spend a lot of money there, 2nd if we leave Russia may take control, but mostly the money, follow the money, my friend. Same with Korea, everytime we talk about leaving there they panic, Yes Bama did go around the world saying America is no longer a great nation, Our allies don't trust him, our enemies know he is a whimp, both are correct. If the world hates us as you claim, why do people still want to come here? Like I said your logic is illogical, typical democrat. Are you claiming that Bush did a submissive bow to a muslim king? Never have seen that photo. but I am sure you have one, right? I did see Bush respect the muslim culture by holding the hand of the Saudi king, even showing respect with a kiss on the check, but never a submissive bow as Bama did. so show me the submissive bow from Bush, or is that a democratic lie also?
  • LORROL johnc 2010/10/28 18:20:12
    LORROL
    If you can not take the time to check what I provide to you further discussion is of no value. You are obviously stuck with your opinion and unable or unwilling to give thought or time to be shown other wise. I provided the path but am not going to take you by the hand and lead you down it. Do some homework or stop bothering to respond.
  • johnc LORROL 2010/10/28 18:31:15
    johnc
    never saw this vidio of Bush doing a submissive bow to a muslim king like Bama did, And Bama admits he lived in a muslim household, and community, he knows what is respect and what is submission,
    I am not going to look for something that does not exist. Sorry I am not a socialist/progressive/liberal... and after seeing whom they are could never be. So how is that thrill between your legs when you see Bama? Pretty strong I guess.
  • LORROL johnc 2010/10/28 20:23:22
    LORROL
    You try very hard to push people into boxes even if they do not fit. I have doubts about Obama as I have had for every president in the last 30 years but they are not in the White House to serve me. They are their to do their best to help the whole country.
    Personally I am a social progressive and a fiscal conservative that has traveled the world both in the service of country (20 years active duty Army) and for pleasure and have learned to keep my eyes and ear open so I can learn.
    In this world of information I have learned to doubt the written words of journalist or blogger and I have become very adept at searching through all the mess and tracking down the truth. That would probably make me the exact opposite of you who comes across as a narrow minded person who searches for information that only fits the visual field of your blinders. I only hope and pray that some day you will experience an epiphany and open your eyes to the rest of the world around you
  • johnc LORROL 2010/10/28 20:45:47
    johnc
    If you are conservative as you claim, how can you have this love of Bama?
    Social progressive says it all about you that needs to be known,
    I only did 3 years in the Army, 61-64, that was enough for me, Glad there are gung ho guys that like the military, I have great respect for them, however it was not for me, and with your hero Bama as president I would not join the service now, and have convinced my grandson whom is an excellent shot, by the way to wait until 2012 to join after Bama is gone, unless Ms, BJ Clinton replaces Bama as I suspect she will challenge him in 2011 and dumb dems will choose her over this Bama disaster. But like Bama says, Americans are stupid, as evident by his elelction.
    I also do not believe what the press says, and bloggers are just voicing opinions,

    People say stupid things, like claiming Bush bowed to the islam king like Bama did, now we know that is a liberal lie,
    I hope socialist progressives that think others should pay thier way wake up and realize that free isn't free, like yourself.
    I pray everyday that you libs will wake up and smell the coffee.
    Nice lie on the conservative claim, problem is your words don't support your claim.
  • LORROL johnc 2010/10/28 21:55:05
    LORROL
    Personally I am delighted that the current commander in chief takes his time to make thoughtful decisions when he deploys are troops rather just tossing them in like the cannon fodder Bush treated them like.

    Still have not bothered to do any homework have you?
  • johnc LORROL 2010/10/28 22:14:55
    johnc
    ?? don't understand you asking me about homework you are the one that said Bush did a submissive bow to the muslim king like Bama did. And you want me to look it up? You socialist are so funny, but you do have your socialist president.
    In so far as taking 3 months to commit to military request for more military is a good idea? I do not agree with you there, But he did also give an end date, Now Bama compares himself to lincoln, and FDR, but nowhere have I found anything that lincoln gave and end date mor that FDR gave Germany and Japan an end date, do you have those statements also? In fact even Truman never gave an end date for the Korean war, nor did Washington give the brits and end date for the rev. war. But I am sure you have videos of that right?
    So you are saying Washington, Lincoln, FDR and Truman gave an end date for the end of hostilities like Bama does.
    What kind of pain pills are you on?
  • LORROL johnc 2010/10/28 22:29:08
    LORROL
    Funny you do mention the dates Bush gave Iraq or the thousands of troops that died in Iraq for war invented by Bush's propaganda machine. Funny you had to go back to Korea to compare. Hm did Nixon give end date for Vietnam, did George Bush senior give date for end of Desert Storm? Still cannot see beyond your nose can you. Looks like I got a real stoner accusing me of drug use.
  • johnc LORROL 2010/10/28 22:47:07
    johnc
    I hardly thing John Kerry, Bill Clinton, Nancy PP, Dingy Harry, and a host of democrats were on the Bush propaganda machine, they were the main ones saying Saddam had WMDs, or did you forget that? I think it was LBJ that expanded the Vietnam war, and the idea of a politically correct war. Know a lot of VN vets, Pilots that bombed allowed areas that looked like the moon with craters, yet could not bomb the jungle where the VC were, Now we could mention the John Kerry lies, but you don't want to hear that, The conditions of the gulf war was to remove Iraq from the country invaded, Never gave a date certain, but ended the conflict when the mission was complete, do you also have a video of Bush 1 giving a date certain before the conflict? please send me that along with all the other claims you have. Nixon gave an end date, not based on an increase of increase of troops but based on the agreement with the north that they lied in.
    Sorry your illogical logic just does not work, but I see you lie just like your hero Bama, Now that is a good lib. stay with yo' sinking ship.
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