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Who Collects More welfare, Whites Or Blacks ?

yomamma September 07, 2010 03:00:33
I wrote this article in rebuttal to another post that portrayed a black women as a welfare queen and many of the responses showed a racist view of welfare recipients that is not based on facts!

Despite prevailing stereotype, Whites, not Blacks, collect greatest share of public aid dollars

SAY the word "welfare" and immediately the image of the lazy Black wellare queen who breeds for profit surfaces in the minds of those who have come to believe the hideous stereotype. It is a myth that persists despite government figures and authoritative studies showing that Whites overwhelmingly reap the lion's share of the dole.The image of the Black "welfare cheat," public aid advocates say, is based on misconceptions about poor minorities. The notion, they say, comes from society's resentment of seemingly ablebodied people getting paid for doing nothing.

"For some people, there is a need to believe that there are
professional welfare recipients who are deliberately trying to get not
only what they need to survive, but more," says Anne D. Hill, director
of programs for the National Urban League. "People say to themselves: 'I
work. How come this person who appears to be healthy isn't working?' We
tend to equate our condition with others without fully knowing their
circumstances."

Hill and other welfare supporters argue that numbers, and not erroneous stereotypes, tell the real story about public assistance clients: Some 61 percent of welfare recipients are White, while 33 percent are Black, according to 1990 Census Bureau statistics, the latest figures available.

The federal government defines welfare as all entitlement programs funded through taxes. These programs, listed as "direct benefit payments for individuals" by the Office of Management and Budget, make up $730 billion or 43 percent of the $1.47 trillion the government will spend this fiscal year.

Social Security is the nation's largest welfare program, although many Whites prefer to call it a retirement plan. The governmentwrites retirement and disability benefit checks to 35.4 million recipients of whom 88.7 percent are White and 9.6 percent are Black. Thereason behind this shocking disparity is perhaps the most lamentable of all: The life expectancy rate for Blacks is six years shorter than thatof Whites, meaning Black workers spend years paying into a retirement system only to have White retirees reap the benefits for a longer time.

Welfare critics rarely search the Social Security rolls for "welfare cheats," but train their sights on people getting Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), Medicaid and food stamps, the relief programs with the most Black clients. Yet government figures showthat Whites not Blacks make up the bulk of clients on these public aid programs; a fact that dispels the notion that Blacks are scheming for a free lunch courtesy of the American taxpayer.

Among the poorest of the poor--single mothers, living below thepoverty line with minor children to support 39.7 percent of AFDC clients are Black single mothers and 38.1 percent are White women with children. Food stamp recipients are 37.2 percent Black and 46.2 percent White. Medicaid benefits are paid to 27.5 percent Black recipients compared to 48.5 percent White clients.

Although the numbers show that Whites get the biggest chunk of public aid dollars, welfare critics still charge that Blacks shouldn't collect 33 percent of welfare benefits when they only make up 12 percentof the general population. They say the imbalance proves their case that Blacks are too busy complaining and blaming racism for their plightto look for a job.

But racism is at the heart of the standard-of-living gap between Blacks and Whites, welfare advocates argue. Unlawful race-based hiring practices, they contend, keep Blacks from getting jobs that pay enough to lift them out of poverty. Until more blue-collar jobs open up to Black workers, Blacks will continue to battle poverty and the freeloader misconception.

"Public and congressional deliberations over... welfare reform in the last few years have been fueled by distortions and outright falsehoods about poverty," the National Urban League asserted in its 1988 report, Black Americans and Public Policy. "Welfare reform is not solely a Black issue, but one in need of immediate attention."

Turning welfare reform into a "Black issue" makes racial scapegoating easy and allows stereotypes, like the Reaganera "welfare queen," to go unchallenged, public aid supporters say. Rightwing reformers cast Whites as "deserving" clients who are legitimately unable to pay their own way through no fault of their own. Blacks are labeled "undeserving" recipients who are looking for the feds to subsidize their slothfulness.

Attaching a moral value to work is not a new convention; it is aphilosophy deeply rooted in the religious beliefs and social welfare laws that Anglo-Saxon settlers brought to the New World. These values were imposed upon poor immigrants from other European countries who later perpetuated them after moving into mainstream society.

The Puritanical work ethic faced its greatest challenge following the stock market crash of 1929 and the Great Depression of the1930s. The nation was forced to re-think its social welfare conventionswhen it realized that economic forces--not misplaced values--could lead to financial disaster. President Franklin D. Roosevelts New Deal programs and the adoption of the Social Security Act of 1935 symbolized the country's commitment to protecting family and personal incomes. President Lyndon B. Johnson's Great Society anti-poverty programs of the1960s ushered in some of the programs of today's welfare system.

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  • star May 16, 2012 23:37:58
    star
    I don't care which race gets the most welfare. Why fight it when Obama takes vacation after vacations? Our government spend money to other nations that should be available for our own people. Its time to take care of our own and let other countries do the same. I have never gotten welfare and helped my husband raise five kids. They are all grown and all work and so does their kids. I know people on welfare and they get very little. They live in government housing or they would be homeless. Yes, they get food stamps and medicaid So what. I worked so did my husband so we would not have to go on welfare and it was hard but worthwhile.
  • Dee May 16, 2012 23:37:52
    Dee
    I wonder why you are using numbers that are 22 years old and referencing an article that was written in December, 1992?

    The 2010 Census data is available if you just look for it.
  • Red Branch May 16, 2012 23:24:21
    Red Branch
    +1
    I see a lot of hate here.

    Do I sense an opening salvo being fired to set off a race war?

    What is the problem with assigning a moral value to work?

    I have never heard anyone defend welfare for white people and condemn black people for receiving the same benefits.

    "Puritanical work ethic ... ", More hate.

    " ... social welfare laws that Anglo-Saxons brought to the New World ... "
    There were no social welfare laws until FDR. So exactly what are you trying to say?

    I also see a lot of missing information here, namely the Hispanic population. Or, by chance, did you lump those into the white category to stack the deck so to speak?

    First of all, Social Security does not belong in this question. Workers have paid for that their entire working lives.
    Medicare, though you did not mention it, does not belong here and again it has been paid for by the workers.
    -In both cases, the employer pays half, but that comes off what the employee could be earning. I believe that it is about 15% of your total earnings go into this fund.

    Both Frederic Douglas and Booker T Washington knew that the Blacks did better when immigration was restricted. I would like to know what Jesse and Al know that Douglas and Booker T did not know.

    Open borders have hurt Blacks more than whites in the job...
    I see a lot of hate here.

    Do I sense an opening salvo being fired to set off a race war?

    What is the problem with assigning a moral value to work?

    I have never heard anyone defend welfare for white people and condemn black people for receiving the same benefits.

    "Puritanical work ethic ... ", More hate.

    " ... social welfare laws that Anglo-Saxons brought to the New World ... "
    There were no social welfare laws until FDR. So exactly what are you trying to say?

    I also see a lot of missing information here, namely the Hispanic population. Or, by chance, did you lump those into the white category to stack the deck so to speak?

    First of all, Social Security does not belong in this question. Workers have paid for that their entire working lives.
    Medicare, though you did not mention it, does not belong here and again it has been paid for by the workers.
    -In both cases, the employer pays half, but that comes off what the employee could be earning. I believe that it is about 15% of your total earnings go into this fund.

    Both Frederic Douglas and Booker T Washington knew that the Blacks did better when immigration was restricted. I would like to know what Jesse and Al know that Douglas and Booker T did not know.

    Open borders have hurt Blacks more than whites in the job market. Open borders have caused Blacks to become the second largest minority group, behind Hispanics.

    Such hatred posing as a fact-based scientific treatise.

    Where did the Hispanic number go?
    What is wrong with assigning a moral value to work?
    Is this begin posted just ahead of the Day of Rage on May 19? A day of rage to attack whites because Farrakhan had Malcolm X killed?
    Tell me how does open borders help the Blacks?
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  • Striker May 16, 2012 23:20:55
    Striker
    +2
    The whole post was intentionally misleading spin of statistics.
    Including that SS is a welfare program. The whole article demand we have a Vote DOWN button. What a waste of time.
  • TruBluTopaz May 16, 2012 23:02:45
    TruBluTopaz
    +3
    More white people in the population would mean that naturally there would be more anglos on welfare. But the statistics need to also reveal the percentage of each ethnicity are on welfare.
    Here's what I found on just one site, there are several more that have the same information. So just raw numbers don't cut it-you have to analyze by race.

    "With regard to AFDC the figures are:

    White 38.8%
    Black 39.8
    Hispanic 15.7
    Asian 2.4
    other 3.3

    To break down these numbers, we look at how many Whites are in the population as a WHOLE. If Blacks make up less 14% of the population and are almost 40% of all receipients, then they represent about 2.5 times their actual population. Since Whites are over 50% of the total US pop., they represent less than their overall piece of the pie, population-wise. Hispanics are at least 15% of the general population, so they take only about as much as what their population represents. Why am I writing this? Because I am tired of the misrepresentations on this issue. I read so many on here claiming that more Whites are on welfare than Blacks (true, in terms of raw numbers), yet not accounting for the fact that there are over 4X as many Whites in this country than Blacks! In statistics, you cannot go by mere numbers. Only if the playing field is exactly ...
    More white people in the population would mean that naturally there would be more anglos on welfare. But the statistics need to also reveal the percentage of each ethnicity are on welfare.
    Here's what I found on just one site, there are several more that have the same information. So just raw numbers don't cut it-you have to analyze by race.

    "With regard to AFDC the figures are:

    White 38.8%
    Black 39.8
    Hispanic 15.7
    Asian 2.4
    other 3.3

    To break down these numbers, we look at how many Whites are in the population as a WHOLE. If Blacks make up less 14% of the population and are almost 40% of all receipients, then they represent about 2.5 times their actual population. Since Whites are over 50% of the total US pop., they represent less than their overall piece of the pie, population-wise. Hispanics are at least 15% of the general population, so they take only about as much as what their population represents. Why am I writing this? Because I am tired of the misrepresentations on this issue. I read so many on here claiming that more Whites are on welfare than Blacks (true, in terms of raw numbers), yet not accounting for the fact that there are over 4X as many Whites in this country than Blacks! In statistics, you cannot go by mere numbers. Only if the playing field is exactly equal, which is rarely is! This thread was started, not to be racist, but to keep it real. After all, there are some legitimate reasons for Blacks to be on welfare more than Whites. But the worst thing anyone can do is be in denial"
    http://www.topix.com/forum/af...
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  • Calliope~POTL-PWCM~JLA May 16, 2012 22:51:07
    Calliope~POTL-PWCM~JLA
    +3
    PERCENTAGE WISE - Blacks do.
  • Dutch cargo April 17, 2012 13:33:45
    Dutch cargo
    How long before their is a drug test for social security?
  • Nrenee williams April 08, 2012 18:20:08
    Nrenee williams
    +1
    As of 2011 30 million americans receive some sort of welfare - food stamps, cash, medicare, medicaid.

    population below from 2009 US Census data (most recent i could find) sorry not sure where hispanics were designated under this definition-not listed

    population designated as "One race" (not mixed)-

    -white- 228,104,485
    - black- 35,704,124
    - american indian & alaska native- 2,663,818
    -asian - 11,089,916
    -native hawaiian or other pacific islander -478,607

    So in absolute terms- not percent but actual number of recipients of 30,000,000 receiving welfare roughly 18,300,000 are white. For perspective someone might want to post racial breakdowns for college completion and/or average household income.....
  • Whatever March 21, 2012 02:21:46 (edited)
    Whatever
    +3
    I'd say whites and blacks are about equal leeches off free money. I do not agree with the way this subject went on about saying white people feed off welfare more. In addition, more white people worked and contributed to the welfare system and still do. I'm not saying black people don't work or trying to be racist, just stating facts.



    http://quickfacts.census.gov/...


    Non-Hispanic whites in 2010 = 63.7%



    White =72.4%



    Black =12.6%



    Of course whites will collect more welfare than blacks with these numbers...
  • Vee March 06, 2012 21:21:46 (edited)
    Vee
    +3
    to Panjok2 - You talk a load of crap until those "blacks" that you invited to move in your neighborhood actually does. Lets review - Suppose your small town now has a 10% population of blacks residing in it - first the property value goes down (simply because blacks are now homeowners); next your "white" neighbors who you deem so socially accepting will now have issues with their neighbors. Your new black neighbors will undergo some subtle and no so subtle racist attacks as your people adjust to them being there- those that can't adjust will move. Judging from the crap that spewed from your post, I can only guess your only interaction with blacks is the one person that lives in your town and what you see on TV. Until you walk in a black persons shoes and have suffered from being born into poverty; very few opportunities; lack of adequate educational systems; sports, etc. - go to the inner city- live there for a year and see what awaits you. When resouces are funneled into a community - that community thrives.
  • panjok2 Vee March 23, 2012 16:35:24
  • info se... Vee April 13, 2012 07:50:53
  • staffcurtis March 02, 2012 16:25:20
    staffcurtis
    +3
    If welfare was removed, more whites would be affected, but it would have a bigger impact on blacks as a whole.
  • douglas... staffcu... March 06, 2012 04:33:39
    douglas.collett
    +4
    Right, we spend thus more money for welfare on white people, though a larger percentage of blacks of their population is on welfare...because they are a lower percentage of our population as a whole.
  • Yura Ja... douglas... March 06, 2012 04:37:02
    Yura Jabroni
    +1
    This unlike republicans want to present, welfare is NOT a one race issue. Yet you continue to hear people like Newt mention "blacks". You continue to see guys like Santorum mention "all those blacks on welfare". Obvous this hate talk was used in the southern states of the 1960s to push racism to further their agenda and get southern racist democrats to jump party to strengthen the republican party...before the 1960s, the South was ALL DEMOCRAT.
  • annoyed February 28, 2012 08:13:17
    annoyed
    +2
    White, black, whatever you are, if you the a way to work then do it. its a shame the you have people who break their back and live pay check to pay check and cant even get assisted. how does that work? the system is ass backwards. if youre illegal and that goes for all races and ethnicities you get no help do what you need to do to enter the courty to be eligible to get assisted. we need to start helping our own before we help other countries. we have homeless people here in our own backyards. as far as the younger generation blacks who think the the are owed fourty acres a mule, your insane. what the hell have you gone through that your ancestors did? you were born in a society where you have the opportunity to make something of yourself. its either you wirk hard for it and achieve great things or you keep blaming any and everyone for your misfortune. im so tired of peop of all races using crutches to get through life. so what you had no daddy, you lived in the hood, and whatever other excuses are used. the point is, if you really care to put so much into a petty aruguement where there no clear answer then you have enough drive to go out and do something with your life. it is funny how race is put into everything, rich white people cant stand trailer trash white, mexican amer...
    White, black, whatever you are, if you the a way to work then do it. its a shame the you have people who break their back and live pay check to pay check and cant even get assisted. how does that work? the system is ass backwards. if youre illegal and that goes for all races and ethnicities you get no help do what you need to do to enter the courty to be eligible to get assisted. we need to start helping our own before we help other countries. we have homeless people here in our own backyards. as far as the younger generation blacks who think the the are owed fourty acres a mule, your insane. what the hell have you gone through that your ancestors did? you were born in a society where you have the opportunity to make something of yourself. its either you wirk hard for it and achieve great things or you keep blaming any and everyone for your misfortune. im so tired of peop of all races using crutches to get through life. so what you had no daddy, you lived in the hood, and whatever other excuses are used. the point is, if you really care to put so much into a petty aruguement where there no clear answer then you have enough drive to go out and do something with your life. it is funny how race is put into everything, rich white people cant stand trailer trash white, mexican americans cant stand mexicans from mexico, light skinned blacks and stand dark skinned blacks. like come off it. evaluate what you can do to fix society. in actualitymost peop that complain arent makin the most of their situation they just want some to blome but them.
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  • panjok2 February 22, 2012 16:15:26
    panjok2
    +4
    Where did you go to school? Of course whites collect more welfare over all but not once did you mention the fact that there are 7 whites to every 1 black person in America! Also, just so I can educate you further, blacks are about 8 times more likely to commit murder, 4 times more likely to commit rape and I will go on with 9.6 times more likely to commit armed robbery as a white person! Let's see here if I can add some more REAL stats for you! The average Black commits simple assault about 22 times as often as the average White.The average Black commits theft 17 times as often as the average White. So now that I have shown you the real numbers I bet you will give me some excuse like they are all victims of the white system or they live in poorer neighborhoods, etc! Well my answer to the living in the ghetto is to simply MOVE! I live in a town that does not have very many blacks or races other than white but the ones that do live here have it pretty good and the reason they do is because they WORK an HONEST job and pay their bills! No one treats them any different than the next white guy and they aren't out on the corner selling drugs or robbing me when I walk by them on the sidewalk! So tell me this...if blacks are victims to the system and living in the ghetto doesn't provi...
    Where did you go to school? Of course whites collect more welfare over all but not once did you mention the fact that there are 7 whites to every 1 black person in America! Also, just so I can educate you further, blacks are about 8 times more likely to commit murder, 4 times more likely to commit rape and I will go on with 9.6 times more likely to commit armed robbery as a white person! Let's see here if I can add some more REAL stats for you! The average Black commits simple assault about 22 times as often as the average White.The average Black commits theft 17 times as often as the average White. So now that I have shown you the real numbers I bet you will give me some excuse like they are all victims of the white system or they live in poorer neighborhoods, etc! Well my answer to the living in the ghetto is to simply MOVE! I live in a town that does not have very many blacks or races other than white but the ones that do live here have it pretty good and the reason they do is because they WORK an HONEST job and pay their bills! No one treats them any different than the next white guy and they aren't out on the corner selling drugs or robbing me when I walk by them on the sidewalk! So tell me this...if blacks are victims to the system and living in the ghetto doesn't provide them with any real hope and this is why they live on welfare or commit crimes....then why don't they simply MOVE here to my little town or any other little town in America? Any one of them can take their last welfare check and either get in their car, bus, or even walk till they get to a little town like mine! Then they can live a life out of the ghetto and if they don't get a job here and decide to live on welfare, it will be their choice....not the systems or the color of their skin! It is America and you are allowed to roam freely ya know! I am tired of excuses!
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  • Yura Ja... panjok2 March 06, 2012 04:39:47
    Yura Jabroni
    +1
    Over 95 percent of mass murders are white. I noticed how you failed to include THAT statistic. Your stats are brought on by the fact that a larger percentage of blacks live in the inner city than whites. Man of the same crimes you mentioned go unnoticed in the little towns across America outside the larger cities. That's a shame that you focus on biased stats to make a moronic point.
  • Yura Ja... panjok2 March 06, 2012 04:44:54
    Yura Jabroni
    +3
    Whites are also 98 percent more likely to buy areas in poor black neighborhoods very cheaply driving up the costs in that neighborhood so they are forced to move elsewhere, and then buy up the rest of the neighborhood, knock the houses down and built condos that they then will rent out for a few thousand dollars. Sad and pathetic isn't it? I don't recall the last time I saw a black man do that. I didn't see a bunch of brothers running ENRON here in Houston...the company that did that (after stealing other people's money), built Enron Field for the Astros in the very place in the ghetto that they used their money to displace families that lives there all their life...then we all know what happened with Enron AFTER that fact. You using some retarded statistics to judge all black people makes you worse than the very people you judge by far. As a U.S. Marine, the blacks in our unit were just as hard corps as the WHITE Marines...in fact, they CONSISTENLY score much higher on the PFT (Physical Fitness Test) than the whites. So while you're regurgitating some inner city statistics, you're omitting what a very large group of African Americans have contibuted to this country, including fighting your war for you.
  • panjok2 Yura Ja... March 07, 2012 01:19:55
    panjok2
    +1
    Oh shut your pie hole and quit trying to brag about having a few black friends or whatever it is that you are trying to do here! I stated some freaking stats because of the main one over welfare! Like I said in my comment about them having a choice on whether or not they want they have to live in the ghetto! You are just helping me prove what I was trying to get across and that is they all have a choice on whether or not they want to live in the ghetto! The guys in your unit made a great choice and so can a lot of the ones I am aiming my comment towards! I am sick of hearing some black people say they have no choice but to get into a gang or sell drugs because of where they live! They do have a choice and that choice can change each of their lives for the better ...just like it did for the guys in your unit!
  • Whatever Yura Ja... March 21, 2012 02:11:16
  • Bill February 22, 2012 00:40:18
    Bill
    +1
    Percentage-wise: Blacks.
  • Nate Carmesh February 01, 2012 00:10:51
    Nate Carmesh
    +5
    first off this math is wrong. You need to figure out the overall percentage based on there percentage. If whites are 62% of the pop and blacks are 12% of the population. It would be natural to assume whites get more assistance. So to ask this question properly you need to take the percentage of the total population versus the amount who recieve assistance based on the overall number then factor in there portion of total pop and you would recieve the value that per overall race more overall blacks recieve assistance. then whites. 70 something percent overall compared to 31.
  • Yura Ja... Nate Ca... March 06, 2012 04:45:41
    Yura Jabroni
    +2
    70 something percent copared to 31 is 101 and then some...so I'd say your math isn't right.
  • Nate Ca... Yura Ja... April 13, 2012 19:26:34
    Nate Carmesh
    overall of their percentage... You should learn to read and enjoy the body of the statement and then grasp the context in which that was represented... 70% of the overall blacks compared to 31% of overall whites. so their each in there own statistic category. I figured even if you read it again you still wouldnt be able to comprehend it.
  • greg January 08, 2012 08:59:38
  • jamie November 26, 2011 19:38:32
    jamie
    +2
    we wouldn't be having this discussion if black people wasn't kidnapped and brought over here and forced to work for free for 500 years.this discussion should be about how we can give blacks more,and treat them like human beings,and respecting them,and understanding them.....they have come a long way.so the hell with all this petty talk
  • Jay jamie January 16, 2012 23:27:00
    Jay
    +6
    Let's see the nation was founded in 1776. That means we have been a nation 236 years. SO much for your assertion that blacks have been here with forced free labor for 500 years. The Civil war was concluded in 1865 that means slavery ended in 89 years. If you are going to make easily provable false statements your credibility is zero and you look like a moron. Also the sentence "if black people wasn't kidnapped " should read "if black people weren't kidnapped". Get some education you goofball.
  • claris Jay January 18, 2012 01:49:00 (edited)
    claris
    +2
    Smart one first slaves arrived in America in the late 1400's, with the arrival of Europeans. Black people were not kidnapped from Africa they were sold to Europeans by their African enemies. The Civil war was "not concluded." It ended in 1865. Who's the moron now??? Learn your history!!!
  • douglas... claris March 06, 2012 04:25:19
    douglas.collett
    +2
    You're honestly not looking much smarter with YOUR comment. First of all, while Europeans may have owned slaves, Americans haven't been in this country for those "500 years" thus you're asking for Americans to be responsible for slavery from other countries. That isn't logical. Your argument that the Civil War (the "w" is also in caps as it is as much as the event at the "Civil" part is by the way) was "ended", but "not concluded". That's the most ridiculous argument. "Conclusion" meands "ending". So what exactly is that argument? It ENDED in 1865. Slavery ended the same year.

    While I'm very ilberal and fought for civil rights, the idea that whites from today should be responsible for slavery is simply milking the cow. I never owned any slaves. My parents never did. WE were just as poor as the blacks in the neighborhood where I grew up. In fact, I tutored black people who got sholarships because of the color of thei skin and I ended up joining the Marines because I could not afford college. So now is the time to get your head out of your ass and stop picking small battles when you have no grasp of the entire concept.
  • Yura Ja... claris March 06, 2012 04:47:58
    Yura Jabroni
    +3
    To add to what Douglas said, you are incorrect and do not know your history. Black people were indeed kidnapped. They were "rounded up like cattles" in many cases.
  • Jay January 22, 2012 01:55:34
    +1
    Regardless of how long or short African Americans were in slavery (whether 500 years or 89 years), they were still enslaved. The type of enslavement African Americans went through retarded their growth socially, economically and psychologically. To look down upon their current state is to be ignorant of what they went through and the effects of what they went through. Yes, a majority of blacks are on welfare compared to whites, but that fact only makes me ask the question: how long were white people in slavery? (If you can't tell that's a rhetorical question since white americans have never been enslaved). And by the way, to resort to insulting someone's grammar and intelligence show weakness in ones own argument. In an argument, if the only rebuttle you can come up with is insulting your opponent then that reveals you really have nothing of value left to say.
  • Nate Ca... February 01, 2012 00:18:59
    Nate Carmesh
    +5
    there were more white slaves in the beginning than black slaves so that is a null and mute point. An blacks sold there own people into slavery and then ended up getting ripped off themselves. As with everything in history the inferior species usually is overtaken.... At this time most other races were educated and blacks still believed in multiple gods spirits no value of currency lived in a hut and still wore fur for clothes. This is what happened to them they did it to themselves all the way back to roman times. You want to talk about retarding there growth they did that long before slavery. The founder of the genome james watson. Studied dna down to a science and had undisputeable proof that genetically blacks are behind 1500 years from any other races cause they never evolved socially. They always lived in a hut and never invented anything to improve there peoples way of life.. Again this all happened way before slavery.. So if you want to blame anyone for there "enslavement" it would only be themselves...
  • alexis Nate Ca... February 22, 2012 06:53:26
    alexis
    +1
    Okay so Africans of different ethnic backgrounds sold other Africans mostly black Africans to European. That is correct. During this time when the world was getting more developed this was common for different communities to sell others who were less inferior than them to others. However, the treatment that Africans and later African Americans endured no one of European descent can fathom. Even til this day Blacks are treated less than their Whites counterpart. Their is only a lucky few that is able to make it. Not because African Americans are incapable of reaching their full potential but because this system is designed to only allow a few to even make it. So yes while slavery ended some 500+ years ago, the aftermath is still being felt to this day...Btw the Emancipation Proclamation was not in Abraham's original plan to free the slaves. So where would we have as a country if that did not happen? Possibly another 500 years of slavery.
  • alexis alexis February 23, 2012 04:26:34
    alexis
    +3
    Well slavery did not end 500+ years ago. Sorry for the mistake but you get the point.
  • Nate Ca... alexis February 29, 2012 22:18:32 (edited)
    Nate Carmesh
    +1
    thats a lie freed black slaves wrote how the indenture European servants were treated worst in the north then a black slave in the south. There were more white slaves or Indentured servants in colonial america then black slaves. That is fact. An European indentured servitude went on some 70 years after blacks had there "freedom" (i quote it cause it is debatable whether they were actually free. Since for another 100 years they were still oppressed daily by society and segregation..)


    No European knows what slavery is like huh Lets see
    6th century Romans enslaved the angles from great britain They were blonde hair and blue eyed enslaved the people est. 30k pop...
    1-1.25 million European Christians were captured and enslaved by black muslims ( sold in northern africa between 16th and 18th century. Bout the same time whites were enslaving blacks from south africa... )
    the jewish were enslaved some long before they came to Europe for some 3000 years. blacks had what did you say 500 years.
    Lets not forget the 500 years that Europeans enslaved people who faced tax seizures, people considered vagrants or travelers were enslaved and sent to foreign colonies and plantations and forced to do civil work.. Also make note that for the first 410 years of black slavery 100s of "races" and/or cu...
    thats a lie freed black slaves wrote how the indenture European servants were treated worst in the north then a black slave in the south. There were more white slaves or Indentured servants in colonial america then black slaves. That is fact. An European indentured servitude went on some 70 years after blacks had there "freedom" (i quote it cause it is debatable whether they were actually free. Since for another 100 years they were still oppressed daily by society and segregation..)


    No European knows what slavery is like huh Lets see
    6th century Romans enslaved the angles from great britain They were blonde hair and blue eyed enslaved the people est. 30k pop...
    1-1.25 million European Christians were captured and enslaved by black muslims ( sold in northern africa between 16th and 18th century. Bout the same time whites were enslaving blacks from south africa... )
    the jewish were enslaved some long before they came to Europe for some 3000 years. blacks had what did you say 500 years.
    Lets not forget the 500 years that Europeans enslaved people who faced tax seizures, people considered vagrants or travelers were enslaved and sent to foreign colonies and plantations and forced to do civil work.. Also make note that for the first 410 years of black slavery 100s of "races" and/or cultures were overtaken and enslaved or faced genocide by more advanced societies... I doubt we would have had another 500 years of slavery. simply because whites were still enslaved by the 100s of thousands for 70 years after blacks.. If you think the civil war was over slavery you show how little you know about it. The fact of the matter is you really know nothing of slavery or the civil war other then it happened.


    now let me add to the blacks are treated less then there counter part. Heres a fact the most taxed and least assisted person in america is a single white male... Most taxed, least amount of qualifying assistance programs. 1st 2nd class of people to receive most money towards education: 1 Black single female, 2 black single male. So if your gonna sit there and tell me that its tough.. im not buying it ok.

    For you to say only a select few make it is insane they made it as a black person because they chose too. Nobody can just hand you the good life. You have to goto college get experience then get the job. The ones that make it choose to make it. Im pretty sure most blacks like every other race is doing exactly what they went to college for (unless its one of the unfortunate jobs thats losing positions to outsourcing) Everyone has a choice, you can choose to use the opportunities given to you or you can choose to wait and see if it can be handed to you.

    its crazy when you think how much blacks in other countries prevail and they have more opportunities to do so in america then any where else. Yet you say its only designed for few to make it, welcome to earth. If everyone in the world were as rich as the richest man how would we ever know we were rich?

    i can write this in 5 minutes and know what im talking about. Time to stop making excuses and face the facts...
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  • Red Branch alexis May 16, 2012 23:34:49
    Red Branch
    Okay so Africans of different ethnic backgrounds sold other Africans mostly black Africans to European. That is correct.

    That is incorrect. Moslem Arabs created the slave trade in African Blacks in the 630s and control it yet today.
    More African Blacks were captured and sold in to slavery heading east into Asia, than into the Western Hemishere.

    Eastern Europeans, known as Slavs, had more people taken and sold into slavery than Blacks did.
  • annoyed Nate Ca... February 28, 2012 08:38:10
    annoyed
    +1
    blacks sold themselves after they were freed and returned to their homeland, but before that they were taken from their homes by foces and it wasnt by their own peop.also peop have a prob with blacks in this country then you should have brought them over here. as far as they didnt retarding their growth and all fisrt off black invented many things but in those days they werent allowed to get pattens for themselves so they trusted their ownes to do the right thing but that did always happen. maybe you need to take a black history cousre before you try to talk about what they did or didnt do. what i dont get is you whites talk this and that about black but yet you allowed for many years to raise your children for you. as far as their religous belifes and what kind of clothing they wore who care? black in the militarty were experimented on with syphilis by our own gov. i dnt see you coving that in your arguement. but why does that matter? the point of the article is to say that people need to stop stereotying that the only people on welfare are blacks when in fact its whites too. i dnt know why we need to resort back to slavery, blacks were not the only ones that have been slaves. the fact of the matter is that the wrong people should be getting assited. it should be hard working peop who cant make ends meet rather than peop who arent trying at all.
  • Nate Ca... annoyed April 13, 2012 19:35:26
    Nate Carmesh
    +1
    i couldnt understand that cause i dont know looks like it was written by a 3rd grader who didnt know what hes talking about. Most of the points you made were kind of null and mute. An more whites patents have been stolen then blacks. props though... try again this time in english maybe
  • panjok2 February 22, 2012 17:04:01
    panjok2
    +3
    This might sound bad but it is only a thought! Maybe the blacks that are alive today should thank their ancestors for all they went through, even though it was bad it enabled the ones alive today to live in America where at least they have the chance to have the American dream and if they choose not to then they at least they can get paid to have babies! If they lived in Africa they would most likely be living in a hut still with no running water and starving to death! Also here in America they don't have to worry about a lion eating them! yep...no lions here in America!

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