
Who Collects More welfare, Whites Or Blacks ?
yomamma
September 07, 2010 03:00:33
I wrote this article in rebuttal to another post that portrayed a black women as a welfare queen and many of the responses showed a racist view of welfare recipients that is not based on facts!
The federal government defines welfare as all entitlement programs funded through taxes. These programs, listed as "direct benefit payments for individuals" by the Office of Management and Budget, make up $730 billion or 43 percent of the $1.47 trillion the government will spend this fiscal year.
Social Security is the nation's largest welfare program, although many Whites prefer to call it a retirement plan. The governmentwrites retirement and disability benefit checks to 35.4 million recipients of whom 88.7 percent are White and 9.6 percent are Black. Thereason behind this shocking disparity is perhaps the most lamentable of all: The life expectancy rate for Blacks is six years shorter than thatof Whites, meaning Black workers spend years paying into a retirement system only to have White retirees reap the benefits for a longer time.
Welfare critics rarely search the Social Security rolls for "welfare cheats," but train their sights on people getting Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), Medicaid and food stamps, the relief programs with the most Black clients. Yet government figures showthat Whites not Blacks make up the bulk of clients on these public aid programs; a fact that dispels the notion that Blacks are scheming for a free lunch courtesy of the American taxpayer.
Among the poorest of the poor--single mothers, living below thepoverty line with minor children to support 39.7 percent of AFDC clients are Black single mothers and 38.1 percent are White women with children. Food stamp recipients are 37.2 percent Black and 46.2 percent White. Medicaid benefits are paid to 27.5 percent Black recipients compared to 48.5 percent White clients.
Although the numbers show that Whites get the biggest chunk of public aid dollars, welfare critics still charge that Blacks shouldn't collect 33 percent of welfare benefits when they only make up 12 percentof the general population. They say the imbalance proves their case that Blacks are too busy complaining and blaming racism for their plightto look for a job.
But racism is at the heart of the standard-of-living gap between Blacks and Whites, welfare advocates argue. Unlawful race-based hiring practices, they contend, keep Blacks from getting jobs that pay enough to lift them out of poverty. Until more blue-collar jobs open up to Black workers, Blacks will continue to battle poverty and the freeloader misconception.
"Public and congressional deliberations over... welfare reform in the last few years have been fueled by distortions and outright falsehoods about poverty," the National Urban League asserted in its 1988 report, Black Americans and Public Policy. "Welfare reform is not solely a Black issue, but one in need of immediate attention."
Turning welfare reform into a "Black issue" makes racial scapegoating easy and allows stereotypes, like the Reaganera "welfare queen," to go unchallenged, public aid supporters say. Rightwing reformers cast Whites as "deserving" clients who are legitimately unable to pay their own way through no fault of their own. Blacks are labeled "undeserving" recipients who are looking for the feds to subsidize their slothfulness.
Attaching a moral value to work is not a new convention; it is aphilosophy deeply rooted in the religious beliefs and social welfare laws that Anglo-Saxon settlers brought to the New World. These values were imposed upon poor immigrants from other European countries who later perpetuated them after moving into mainstream society.
The Puritanical work ethic faced its greatest challenge following the stock market crash of 1929 and the Great Depression of the1930s. The nation was forced to re-think its social welfare conventionswhen it realized that economic forces--not misplaced values--could lead to financial disaster. President Franklin D. Roosevelts New Deal programs and the adoption of the Social Security Act of 1935 symbolized the country's commitment to protecting family and personal incomes. President Lyndon B. Johnson's Great Society anti-poverty programs of the1960s ushered in some of the programs of today's welfare system.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_n2_v48/ai_1297...
Despite prevailing stereotype, Whites, not Blacks, collect greatest share of public aid dollars
SAY the word "welfare" and immediately the image of the lazy Black wellare queen who breeds for profit surfaces in the minds of those who have come to believe the hideous stereotype. It is a myth that persists despite government figures and authoritative studies showing that Whites overwhelmingly reap the lion's share of the dole.The image of the Black "welfare cheat," public aid advocates say, is based on misconceptions about poor minorities. The notion, they say, comes from society's resentment of seemingly ablebodied people getting paid for doing nothing. "For some people, there is a need to believe that there are
professional welfare recipients who are deliberately trying to get not
only what they need to survive, but more," says Anne D. Hill, director
of programs for the National Urban League. "People say to themselves: 'I
work. How come this person who appears to be healthy isn't working?' We
tend to equate our condition with others without fully knowing their
circumstances."
The federal government defines welfare as all entitlement programs funded through taxes. These programs, listed as "direct benefit payments for individuals" by the Office of Management and Budget, make up $730 billion or 43 percent of the $1.47 trillion the government will spend this fiscal year.
Social Security is the nation's largest welfare program, although many Whites prefer to call it a retirement plan. The governmentwrites retirement and disability benefit checks to 35.4 million recipients of whom 88.7 percent are White and 9.6 percent are Black. Thereason behind this shocking disparity is perhaps the most lamentable of all: The life expectancy rate for Blacks is six years shorter than thatof Whites, meaning Black workers spend years paying into a retirement system only to have White retirees reap the benefits for a longer time.
Welfare critics rarely search the Social Security rolls for "welfare cheats," but train their sights on people getting Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), Medicaid and food stamps, the relief programs with the most Black clients. Yet government figures showthat Whites not Blacks make up the bulk of clients on these public aid programs; a fact that dispels the notion that Blacks are scheming for a free lunch courtesy of the American taxpayer.
Among the poorest of the poor--single mothers, living below thepoverty line with minor children to support 39.7 percent of AFDC clients are Black single mothers and 38.1 percent are White women with children. Food stamp recipients are 37.2 percent Black and 46.2 percent White. Medicaid benefits are paid to 27.5 percent Black recipients compared to 48.5 percent White clients.
Although the numbers show that Whites get the biggest chunk of public aid dollars, welfare critics still charge that Blacks shouldn't collect 33 percent of welfare benefits when they only make up 12 percentof the general population. They say the imbalance proves their case that Blacks are too busy complaining and blaming racism for their plightto look for a job.
But racism is at the heart of the standard-of-living gap between Blacks and Whites, welfare advocates argue. Unlawful race-based hiring practices, they contend, keep Blacks from getting jobs that pay enough to lift them out of poverty. Until more blue-collar jobs open up to Black workers, Blacks will continue to battle poverty and the freeloader misconception.
"Public and congressional deliberations over... welfare reform in the last few years have been fueled by distortions and outright falsehoods about poverty," the National Urban League asserted in its 1988 report, Black Americans and Public Policy. "Welfare reform is not solely a Black issue, but one in need of immediate attention."
Turning welfare reform into a "Black issue" makes racial scapegoating easy and allows stereotypes, like the Reaganera "welfare queen," to go unchallenged, public aid supporters say. Rightwing reformers cast Whites as "deserving" clients who are legitimately unable to pay their own way through no fault of their own. Blacks are labeled "undeserving" recipients who are looking for the feds to subsidize their slothfulness.
Attaching a moral value to work is not a new convention; it is aphilosophy deeply rooted in the religious beliefs and social welfare laws that Anglo-Saxon settlers brought to the New World. These values were imposed upon poor immigrants from other European countries who later perpetuated them after moving into mainstream society.
The Puritanical work ethic faced its greatest challenge following the stock market crash of 1929 and the Great Depression of the1930s. The nation was forced to re-think its social welfare conventionswhen it realized that economic forces--not misplaced values--could lead to financial disaster. President Franklin D. Roosevelts New Deal programs and the adoption of the Social Security Act of 1935 symbolized the country's commitment to protecting family and personal incomes. President Lyndon B. Johnson's Great Society anti-poverty programs of the1960s ushered in some of the programs of today's welfare system.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_n2_v48/ai_1297...


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The 2010 Census data is available if you just look for it.
Do I sense an opening salvo being fired to set off a race war?
What is the problem with assigning a moral value to work?
I have never heard anyone defend welfare for white people and condemn black people for receiving the same benefits.
"Puritanical work ethic ... ", More hate.
" ... social welfare laws that Anglo-Saxons brought to the New World ... "
There were no social welfare laws until FDR. So exactly what are you trying to say?
I also see a lot of missing information here, namely the Hispanic population. Or, by chance, did you lump those into the white category to stack the deck so to speak?
First of all, Social Security does not belong in this question. Workers have paid for that their entire working lives.
Medicare, though you did not mention it, does not belong here and again it has been paid for by the workers.
-In both cases, the employer pays half, but that comes off what the employee could be earning. I believe that it is about 15% of your total earnings go into this fund.
Both Frederic Douglas and Booker T Washington knew that the Blacks did better when immigration was restricted. I would like to know what Jesse and Al know that Douglas and Booker T did not know.
Open borders have hurt Blacks more than whites in the job...
Do I sense an opening salvo being fired to set off a race war?
What is the problem with assigning a moral value to work?
I have never heard anyone defend welfare for white people and condemn black people for receiving the same benefits.
"Puritanical work ethic ... ", More hate.
" ... social welfare laws that Anglo-Saxons brought to the New World ... "
There were no social welfare laws until FDR. So exactly what are you trying to say?
I also see a lot of missing information here, namely the Hispanic population. Or, by chance, did you lump those into the white category to stack the deck so to speak?
First of all, Social Security does not belong in this question. Workers have paid for that their entire working lives.
Medicare, though you did not mention it, does not belong here and again it has been paid for by the workers.
-In both cases, the employer pays half, but that comes off what the employee could be earning. I believe that it is about 15% of your total earnings go into this fund.
Both Frederic Douglas and Booker T Washington knew that the Blacks did better when immigration was restricted. I would like to know what Jesse and Al know that Douglas and Booker T did not know.
Open borders have hurt Blacks more than whites in the job market. Open borders have caused Blacks to become the second largest minority group, behind Hispanics.
Such hatred posing as a fact-based scientific treatise.
Where did the Hispanic number go?
What is wrong with assigning a moral value to work?
Is this begin posted just ahead of the Day of Rage on May 19? A day of rage to attack whites because Farrakhan had Malcolm X killed?
Tell me how does open borders help the Blacks?
Including that SS is a welfare program. The whole article demand we have a Vote DOWN button. What a waste of time.
Here's what I found on just one site, there are several more that have the same information. So just raw numbers don't cut it-you have to analyze by race.
"With regard to AFDC the figures are:
White 38.8%
Black 39.8
Hispanic 15.7
Asian 2.4
other 3.3
To break down these numbers, we look at how many Whites are in the population as a WHOLE. If Blacks make up less 14% of the population and are almost 40% of all receipients, then they represent about 2.5 times their actual population. Since Whites are over 50% of the total US pop., they represent less than their overall piece of the pie, population-wise. Hispanics are at least 15% of the general population, so they take only about as much as what their population represents. Why am I writing this? Because I am tired of the misrepresentations on this issue. I read so many on here claiming that more Whites are on welfare than Blacks (true, in terms of raw numbers), yet not accounting for the fact that there are over 4X as many Whites in this country than Blacks! In statistics, you cannot go by mere numbers. Only if the playing field is exactly ...
Here's what I found on just one site, there are several more that have the same information. So just raw numbers don't cut it-you have to analyze by race.
"With regard to AFDC the figures are:
White 38.8%
Black 39.8
Hispanic 15.7
Asian 2.4
other 3.3
To break down these numbers, we look at how many Whites are in the population as a WHOLE. If Blacks make up less 14% of the population and are almost 40% of all receipients, then they represent about 2.5 times their actual population. Since Whites are over 50% of the total US pop., they represent less than their overall piece of the pie, population-wise. Hispanics are at least 15% of the general population, so they take only about as much as what their population represents. Why am I writing this? Because I am tired of the misrepresentations on this issue. I read so many on here claiming that more Whites are on welfare than Blacks (true, in terms of raw numbers), yet not accounting for the fact that there are over 4X as many Whites in this country than Blacks! In statistics, you cannot go by mere numbers. Only if the playing field is exactly equal, which is rarely is! This thread was started, not to be racist, but to keep it real. After all, there are some legitimate reasons for Blacks to be on welfare more than Whites. But the worst thing anyone can do is be in denial"
http://www.topix.com/forum/af...
population below from 2009 US Census data (most recent i could find) sorry not sure where hispanics were designated under this definition-not listed
population designated as "One race" (not mixed)-
-white- 228,104,485
- black- 35,704,124
- american indian & alaska native- 2,663,818
-asian - 11,089,916
-native hawaiian or other pacific islander -478,607
So in absolute terms- not percent but actual number of recipients of 30,000,000 receiving welfare roughly 18,300,000 are white. For perspective someone might want to post racial breakdowns for college completion and/or average household income.....
http://quickfacts.census.gov/...
Non-Hispanic whites in 2010 = 63.7%
White =72.4%
Black =12.6%
Of course whites will collect more welfare than blacks with these numbers...
While I'm very ilberal and fought for civil rights, the idea that whites from today should be responsible for slavery is simply milking the cow. I never owned any slaves. My parents never did. WE were just as poor as the blacks in the neighborhood where I grew up. In fact, I tutored black people who got sholarships because of the color of thei skin and I ended up joining the Marines because I could not afford college. So now is the time to get your head out of your ass and stop picking small battles when you have no grasp of the entire concept.
No European knows what slavery is like huh Lets see
6th century Romans enslaved the angles from great britain They were blonde hair and blue eyed enslaved the people est. 30k pop...
1-1.25 million European Christians were captured and enslaved by black muslims ( sold in northern africa between 16th and 18th century. Bout the same time whites were enslaving blacks from south africa... )
the jewish were enslaved some long before they came to Europe for some 3000 years. blacks had what did you say 500 years.
Lets not forget the 500 years that Europeans enslaved people who faced tax seizures, people considered vagrants or travelers were enslaved and sent to foreign colonies and plantations and forced to do civil work.. Also make note that for the first 410 years of black slavery 100s of "races" and/or cu...
No European knows what slavery is like huh Lets see
6th century Romans enslaved the angles from great britain They were blonde hair and blue eyed enslaved the people est. 30k pop...
1-1.25 million European Christians were captured and enslaved by black muslims ( sold in northern africa between 16th and 18th century. Bout the same time whites were enslaving blacks from south africa... )
the jewish were enslaved some long before they came to Europe for some 3000 years. blacks had what did you say 500 years.
Lets not forget the 500 years that Europeans enslaved people who faced tax seizures, people considered vagrants or travelers were enslaved and sent to foreign colonies and plantations and forced to do civil work.. Also make note that for the first 410 years of black slavery 100s of "races" and/or cultures were overtaken and enslaved or faced genocide by more advanced societies... I doubt we would have had another 500 years of slavery. simply because whites were still enslaved by the 100s of thousands for 70 years after blacks.. If you think the civil war was over slavery you show how little you know about it. The fact of the matter is you really know nothing of slavery or the civil war other then it happened.
now let me add to the blacks are treated less then there counter part. Heres a fact the most taxed and least assisted person in america is a single white male... Most taxed, least amount of qualifying assistance programs. 1st 2nd class of people to receive most money towards education: 1 Black single female, 2 black single male. So if your gonna sit there and tell me that its tough.. im not buying it ok.
For you to say only a select few make it is insane they made it as a black person because they chose too. Nobody can just hand you the good life. You have to goto college get experience then get the job. The ones that make it choose to make it. Im pretty sure most blacks like every other race is doing exactly what they went to college for (unless its one of the unfortunate jobs thats losing positions to outsourcing) Everyone has a choice, you can choose to use the opportunities given to you or you can choose to wait and see if it can be handed to you.
its crazy when you think how much blacks in other countries prevail and they have more opportunities to do so in america then any where else. Yet you say its only designed for few to make it, welcome to earth. If everyone in the world were as rich as the richest man how would we ever know we were rich?
i can write this in 5 minutes and know what im talking about. Time to stop making excuses and face the facts...
That is incorrect. Moslem Arabs created the slave trade in African Blacks in the 630s and control it yet today.
More African Blacks were captured and sold in to slavery heading east into Asia, than into the Western Hemishere.
Eastern Europeans, known as Slavs, had more people taken and sold into slavery than Blacks did.