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White House Raises Signature Threshold for 'We the People' Petitions: Good Move or Bad Idea?

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WhiteHouse.gov released a statement explaining its reasons for raising the signature threshold to 100,000 signatures on its petition project. The White House previously required only 25,000 signatures before it required itself to issue an official response. The response comes after releasing a silly response to a silly petition about building a Death Star.
Starting today, as we move into a second term, petitions must receive 100,000 signatures in 30 days in order to receive an official response from the Obama Administration. This new threshold applies only to petitions created from this point forward and is not retroactively applied to ones that already exist.
Does requiring more signatures improve the democratic process? Does any limit help avoid the craziness of the Internet petitions? Will petitions now require media support to get enough attention and signatures, which defeats the entire purpose?

WHITEHOUSE.GOV reports:
We're making another adjustment to ensure we’re able to continue to give the most popular ideas the time they deserve.
we the people

Read More: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/01/15/why-we-r...

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  • findthelight2000 2013/01/17 17:40:06
    Good Move
    findthelight2000
    +38
    When insane people sign White House Petitions for such ludicrous things as their States to secede from the Union, and to start building a "Death Star" by 2014, something has to be done to keep the President and his cabinet from wasting their time on frivolous matters.

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  • Eliza 2013/01/20 02:53:27
    Good Move
    Eliza
    +2
    As it was before, at 25,000 people, it was not truly representative of what the nation would like to happen.
  • pollofrito 2013/01/20 01:38:53
    Bad Idea
    pollofrito
    Small increment by Small increment your civil liberties shall be obscured then diminished then made inapplicable. Small seemingly insignificant acts by government, such as the reduction of access to petition by increasing qualification requirements will ultimately result in the loss of such rights.

    Bureaucratic Governments, like Laissez Faire capitalism are ultimately and inevitably monopolistic in nature. They both depend on the concentration of wealth and power for thier survival.

    We were originally a Constitutional Republic under which our nation and its economic structures flourished. inevetibly, due to the nature of bureacracies and the resulting priviledged capitalism we find our purchasing power diminishing and our Liberty restricted and compromised.

    To change the current trends we might try prayer, however, I think tough political campaign regulations and universal term limits would be more effective.
  • askmike pollofrito 2013/01/20 03:41:07
    askmike
    Get a grip and stop the theatrics. President Obama is the first President to use the We The People petition program. The petitions are not guaranteed in the Constitution, the petitions did not exist prior to 2009, and unless you had someone else type your nonsense above, you can still contact the White House. The program has had other changes since it began and it will undoubtedly change again in the future. Cry me a river over something important.
  • pollofrito askmike 2013/01/21 22:12:00
    pollofrito
    U.S. Constitution - Amendment 1

    Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Your welcome
  • askmike pollofrito 2013/01/21 22:17:08
    askmike
    You are more silly with each of your posts. It is hilarious that you claim your right to exercise your freedom of speech was limited by a program that still exists, by a program that began in 2009, and by a program that is not a law. Keep those silly comments coming!
  • pollofrito askmike 2013/01/22 00:14:25
    pollofrito
    Thank You; happy to see you are entertained and not offended by the words "and to petition the Government" in the first amendment..

    All that aside, it may be arqued that it is the activity of those persons that rigorously and vociferously oppose any ecncroachment upon the United States Constitution that make it possible for many others in the population to continue to freely make myoptic remarks without recrimination.

    When Kept in sharp perspective those folks and their myoptically reasoned remarks may serve as comprators for the rise of reason.
  • askmike pollofrito 2013/01/22 00:35:22
    askmike
    Silly. Knee slapping silly. You can petition the government in the same manner as before. The constitution said "to petiton the Government for a redress of grievances" but the Constitution did not specify 10,000 signatures or a million signatures. Keep those silly comments coming.
  • pollofrito askmike 2013/01/22 08:38:01
    pollofrito
    Congratulations on your ability to maintain a humerous perspective, it is supposed to be good for ones indigestion.

    Once again, In the First Amendment to the United States Constitution consider the words "prohibiting the free excersize thereof; or abridging" as they are a critical aspect of the intent of the First Amendment.

    these few words make it quite clear that, among others, the right to petition the Government shall not be reduced, curtailed, obfuscated or made subject to the whim of criminals, politicians or political science professors.
  • askmike pollofrito 2013/01/22 15:18:23
    askmike
    Keep on keepin' on. Adios.
  • 1philb 2013/01/20 01:31:01
    Good Move
    1philb
    If there are 100k plus signatures, maybe our otherwise clueless congress and senate will realize the point of the petition is something to consider.

    My petition: CONGRESS, SENATE AND ALL OTHER GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES MUST BE SUBJECT TO SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE AND ESPECIALLY OBAMACARE WITH NO OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE.
  • askmike 1philb 2013/01/20 03:42:00
    askmike
    They already are.
  • 1philb askmike 2013/01/20 05:51:27
    1philb
    They have their own medical plan and they receive federal retirement in addition to social security (FERS). You are correct on FICA, my error.
  • askmike 1philb 2013/01/20 06:03:52
    askmike
    The retirement plan for all federal employees, except military personnel, is the same. The formula factors maximum rate of pay, years of federal employment, and a numercal factor. Retired members of Congress do not receive a pension that is equal to their pay when they were in office. The medical benefit for all federal employees, except military personnel, is the same, on a region for region basis. If you have a member of Congress living in your area they may visit the same clinic as you and they may pay a similar family coverage as you; they can participate in a choice of PPO and HMO plans. All federal employees, excepty military personnel pay into and receive benefits from Social Security as do workers in private industry. Hundreds of thousands of private citizens who are retired receive a pension/401K and Social Security.
  • 1philb askmike 2013/01/21 01:27:26
    1philb
    FERS is a defined benefit plan. This is the costliest type of retirement plan and private sector abandoned this due to cost in the in the 1980s. The current federal health insurance is much better than most private plans. The average small business plan deductible exceeds $3000/yr., yes three thousand. And in the private sector most companies require the employee to pay at least 20% of their own cost AND 100% of any dependent costs. Government employee benefits are much richer than private sector plans. Congress and Senate retirement benefits are far beyond what is offered in the private sector. Congress and Senate just vote themselves massive raises and more benefits while doing less than a mediocre job of what they were elected to do!
  • askmike 1philb 2013/01/21 02:55:41
    askmike
    Congress raised their pay in 2009 to $174,000. Raises prior to that took them to $141,000 in 2000, and $136,000 in 1989. Federal employees pay 1/3 of their health premiums and the government pays the other 2/3 of the premiums; for Congress and for all other federal employees.
  • 1philb askmike 2013/01/21 03:46:45
    1philb
    More than 21,000 retired federal workers receive lifetime government pensions of $100,000 or more per year, a USA TODAY/Gannett analysis finds.

    Of these, nearly 2,000 have federal pensions that pay $125,000 or more annually, and 151 take home $150,000 or more. Six federal retirees get more than $200,000 a year.
    Some 1.2% of federal retirees collect six-figure pensions. By comparison, 0.1% of military retirees collect as much.
  • askmike 1philb 2013/01/21 03:49:39
    askmike
    OK, I bite. Name the retired members of Congress whose federal pensions are more than their final salary.
  • 1philb askmike 2013/01/21 04:07:15
    1philb
    Don't have that info, just hope it's not Barney Frank.
  • askmike 1philb 2013/01/21 04:25:24
    askmike
    Just as I suspected. I responded to your incorrect tirade and now you seque into nonsense. Good bye.
  • 1philb askmike 2013/01/21 05:34:20
    1philb
    Retirement benefits for congress http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mi...
  • The I 2013/01/20 00:37:58
    Good Move
    The I
    25,000 is what percentage of the population of what state? Needless to say in the day of social media, getting 25,000 people behind a wild idea is not very daunting. If the death star can raise 25,000 signatures in a 30 day time frame, how many other time consuming, money wasting ideas can draw that type of response?
  • Old Nellie Bones 2013/01/20 00:37:27
    Bad Idea
    Old Nellie Bones
    It is We the People. As in of the the People, By the People and For the People
    Not Me Obama. Of Obama, For Obama and By Obama.
    Pure and Simple.
  • Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F 2013/01/19 22:47:08
    Bad Idea
    Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F
    Obama showing his cowardice and his disdain for patriotic Americans. When petitions he disagrees with reach the 100,000 limit, he'll raise it to 250,000; what a pantywaist little candy-ass we have for POTUS.
  • askmike Aqua Su... 2013/01/20 00:28:28
    askmike
    You are knee slapping silly. Tell us some more silly stuff.
  • Lorenzo 2013/01/19 22:31:20
  • Daniel Hughey 2013/01/19 20:16:08
    Bad Idea
    Daniel Hughey
    +1
    Sounds like the solution they used on the radiation contamination from Japan, When they
    discovered the tuna caught on the west coast was contaminated. They just raised what the safe level of radiation is for our food. And the raised it hundreds to thousands of times, depending on the type. THERE ARE NO SAFE LEVELS OF RADIATION TO FEED OUR CHILDREN!
  • lipton7.62 2013/01/19 15:32:26
    Bad Idea
    lipton7.62
    +1
    This will give more time for President Obama to take 7 million dollar vacations every few months to play golf while the country is in a financial crisis, We the people go hungry living from paycheck to paycheck while Obama throws our money away as an obvious insult to all Americans who pay taxes. it is a signal that the Progressive party wants the government employee to be in the highest income bracket , receive waivers and tax breaks while everyone else goes hungry paying for their exorbitant lifestyle.
  • askmike lipton7.62 2013/01/19 17:24:19
    askmike
    +1
    Do you realize the topic of this blog is We The People petitions? Nothing you wrote makes any sense with the topic.
  • ivegotloveinmypants 2013/01/19 13:28:09
    Bad Idea
    ivegotloveinmypants
    +1
    There should be an undecided option. Of course, some of the petitions may not be important, and this is a good way of rooting them out, but on the other hand, no government can be too busy to listent ot what the people want.
  • T Bevan 2013/01/19 13:07:08
    Bad Idea
    T Bevan
    +2
    Just another way to avoid answering question from "We the People"...

    Responding to the "Death Star" question , should have been one word... "NO... Instead it was over answered....

    Stupidity abounds all over , understand that and get on with life...
  • lipton7.62 T Bevan 2013/01/19 15:35:02
    lipton7.62
    The death Star is a balloon platform with a laser they already have them and they aren't very expensive,
  • T Bevan lipton7.62 2013/01/19 20:01:13
    T Bevan
    Neat!
    laser mounted on ballon platform
  • daniel.putnam.108 2013/01/19 13:00:11
    Bad Idea
    daniel.putnam.108
    +2
    just trying to make it harder to petition. since they decide what to respond to will it matter.they will do what they damn well please anyways.prove youre honest mr president pass the proposed amendment 28 that says congress shall pass no law upon the peole that does not equally apply to congress. and no lawsfor congress that dont apply egually to the people its on fair, no special tratment just because the can vote it for themselves.
  • jeane 2013/01/19 02:34:24
    Bad Idea
    jeane
    +2
    Owebama got bombarded so he is trying to make it more difficult. Go figure.
  • Lorenzo jeane 2013/01/19 22:32:59
  • jeane Lorenzo 2013/01/20 00:24:42
    jeane
    +1
    LOL - yep we should all just lay down and die and not try to defend ourselves - NOT!!
  • Lorenzo jeane 2013/01/20 18:57:24
  • jeane Lorenzo 2013/01/21 00:35:40
    jeane
    We the people are trying to defend ourselves from a 16 trillion dollar debt and NO JOBS! Businesses will not invest in this socialistic, business unfriendly climate. Why would they? People can get hand outs - why work?
  • Lorenzo jeane 2013/01/22 05:39:39
  • jeane Lorenzo 2013/01/22 14:50:32
    jeane
    Just telling the truth. Spiro went down in disgrace - remember> HITLER VOTE FOR ME OBAMA
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