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WHICH OBAMA, DO YOU BELIEVE, WHEN IT COMES TO OBAMACARE??!!

damnyoumaggot 2012/03/26 20:26:47
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  • thegalnextdoor 2012/06/02 18:32:20
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    thegalnextdoor
    +2
    there is so much more than healthcare in that bill .... it's about taking over America.
  • Tom 2012/03/31 19:20:37
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    Tom
    Neither One, He Lies Out of His Mouth and ASS at the Same Time.
  • wysiwis 2012/03/31 02:17:44
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    wysiwis
    +1
    The only thing he's done, that he REALLY set out to do, was "fundamentally transform the country". We are now divided, almost as bad as we were during the civil war.
  • Dan (Politicaly Incorrect) 2012/03/30 12:21:11
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    Dan (Politicaly Incorrect)
    +1
    The Obama against the mandate was before he got his orders from his masters to go for a mandate.
  • ScottyG - Faqueue 2012/03/29 22:12:33
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    I just can't believe in a fictional American.
  • Stoney 2012/03/28 05:39:26
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    Stoney
    +2
    That's easy enough to answer!
    odds
  • Mrs. V 2012/03/28 01:30:42
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    Mrs. V
    +4
    Well I wouldn't say dam#You, but I don't believe any thing Obama says.
  • Mrs. ma... Mrs. V 2012/03/28 02:06:45
    Mrs. maggot
    +2
    Sorry Mrs. V....my hubby's catch phrase is "damnyoumaggot"....it's even his youtube channel. Not meant to be offensive just memorable. @@@(:^)
  • Mrs. V Mrs. ma... 2012/03/29 18:55:22
  • thegaln... Mrs. V 2012/06/02 18:33:38
    thegalnextdoor
    thanks!
  • princess 2012/03/27 20:58:12
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    princess
  • JAA 2012/03/27 18:04:49
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    JAA
    +4
    Every time he opens his mouth to the public, he's telling a lie, so there's no way to know what he's going to do next, only that it won't be a pro-American move.
  • Contarded Chickenhawk Con S... 2012/03/27 17:12:10
    Incumbent Obama
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    Wow, this should work well no matter who's comments you use... LOL

    flip flop mitt
  • doofiegirl POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/03/27 16:51:36
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    doofiegirl  POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +4
    Odimwit opens mouth  lies spew Odimwit opens mouth  lies spew Odimwit opens mouth  lies spew I would look up to see if that fool told me the sky was blue!!!!!!!!!
  • **Bessie** 2012/03/27 16:50:02
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    **Bessie**
    +3
    Sadly the truth!
  • damnyou... **Bessie** 2012/03/27 17:09:41
    damnyoumaggot
    +3
    MOOO!!!
  • **Bessie** damnyou... 2012/03/27 17:15:02
    **Bessie**
    +3
    MOOO-UAH!!
  • stevmackey 2012/03/27 16:36:34
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    stevmackey
    +4
    Now watch he will say that he did not say either.
  • ETpro 2012/03/27 16:17:48
    Incumbent Obama
    ETpro
    When the Republicans first proposed it in the 90s, they were right. The individual mandate is necessary to keep the cost of health-care insurance from slowly spiraling to levels that nobody can afford. When Hillary ran on the idea in the campaign, she was right. And when incumbent Obama embraced it in Affordable Care Act, that was the right thing to do as well.

    If you don't have an individual mandate, the youngest, healthiest people will largely opt out; betting the won't need health care and saving the cost. Insurance premiums just keep soaring because the higher they get, the more only the truly ill buy into the system. Insurers are forced to turn to lifetime caps, exclusion of all pre-existing conditions, and dropping subscribers who become seriously ill to avoid bankruptcy. As more and more people lose coverage, costs of unpaid visits to emergency rooms (the only avenue open to the uninsured) keep climbing, and get passed on to all who are still paying into the system. It is a plan that is doomed to fail.

    The real fix is to abandon private healthcare insurance as a primary solution and go to a national single-payer coverage -- Medicare for everyone. Those who want additional benefits would still be free to buy specialized coverage like Aflac offers to pay bills while on...
    When the Republicans first proposed it in the 90s, they were right. The individual mandate is necessary to keep the cost of health-care insurance from slowly spiraling to levels that nobody can afford. When Hillary ran on the idea in the campaign, she was right. And when incumbent Obama embraced it in Affordable Care Act, that was the right thing to do as well.

    If you don't have an individual mandate, the youngest, healthiest people will largely opt out; betting the won't need health care and saving the cost. Insurance premiums just keep soaring because the higher they get, the more only the truly ill buy into the system. Insurers are forced to turn to lifetime caps, exclusion of all pre-existing conditions, and dropping subscribers who become seriously ill to avoid bankruptcy. As more and more people lose coverage, costs of unpaid visits to emergency rooms (the only avenue open to the uninsured) keep climbing, and get passed on to all who are still paying into the system. It is a plan that is doomed to fail.

    The real fix is to abandon private healthcare insurance as a primary solution and go to a national single-payer coverage -- Medicare for everyone. Those who want additional benefits would still be free to buy specialized coverage like Aflac offers to pay bills while one is incapacitated; but everyone would have their basic health care needs covered; and the healthy along with the infirm would all pay into supporting the system. This would take the expense of heath insurance off of American businesses, as well. That would be a huge help in making our corporations competitive on the world market. No other country on Earth expects their businesses to bear the cost, or a substantial part of the cost, of insuring their employees.
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  • JAA ETpro 2012/03/27 18:01:49 (edited)
    JAA
    +4
    I guess you're right in step with those who are attempting to dismantle our Constitution & make the USA another failed communist country. Everyone believes the health care system needs to be revamped, but NOT at the expense of our freedoms & rights.
  • Kane Fernau 2012/03/27 16:04:28
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    Kane Fernau
    +5
    Obamacare is the first step to a socialist takeover.
  • teachaman 2012/03/27 16:01:30
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    teachaman
    +4
    I DO believe that he has already lost the presidency, though ... does that count?
  • **Bessie** teachaman 2012/03/27 16:51:18
    **Bessie**
    +5
    Wow, really? I hope you are right!
  • Picasso's Cat 2012/03/27 15:37:10
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    Picasso's Cat
    +2
    Obama care is a non-sustainable program that involves promising participants services, primarily for enrolling more people into the program than the program has to pay out in services, thuss being able to supply services to those that do need the services by the money paid into the program by the majority that don't get what they are paying for.
    Obama Care only works if most of the people paying into it "don't" get what they are paying for.
    Under any other circumstances that were not a government program.
    They would be prosecuted as the creators of a "Pyramid Scheme".
  • STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL 2012/03/27 15:25:32
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL
    +4
    Like alot of candidates, he'll say what he has to get elected, and then do what he wants. If ObamaCare stands, he could be locking in tens of millions of voters who will get subsidized health care, at little or no cost. The fact that provider costs, the real problem, are not being addressed is unimportant to him. Costs per unsubsidized payer will go up, because of adding currently uninsured presons to the rolls, covering preex, and covering dependent children up to age 26. We can't solve the problem by adding benefits - we need to reduce the cost of the benefits we already have (tort reform, drug importation, reducing medical errors via automation, allowing Medicare to bulk negotiate drug prices, etc.).
  • Starr 2012/03/27 14:01:17
    damnyoumaggot!!?? I don't believe any Obama!!??
    Starr
  • banzaib... Starr 2012/03/27 14:29:14
    banzaibuckaroo
    In 1993, at the height of President Bill Clinton's health care reform initiative, Sen. John Chafee, R-R.I., along with 19 other Republicans and two Democrats, put forth a bill which was considered the major GOP proposal. One of the co-sponsors was then-Sen. Dave Durenberger, R-Minn. The bill, just like the Democratic version, never passed. But in a sense, it's been revived this year.



    In fact, the key provisions in the Chafee bill may seem familiar, as they bear a strong resemblance to those in the current Democratic Senate bill, and now in President Barack Obama's proposal. A mandate that individuals buy insurance, subsidies for the poor to buy insurance and the requirement that insurers offer a standard benefits package and refrain from discriminating based on pre-existing conditions were all in the 1993 GOP bill.



    Former Senator Durenberger (R- Minnesota) says the reason many of these ideas have been shunned by today's Republicans, even called unconstitutional by some, is that political times have changed. "The main thing that's changed is the definition of a Republican.

    Obamacare is a Republican idea.
  • damnyou... banzaib... 2012/03/27 14:35:52
    damnyoumaggot
    +1
    Is the record skipping?
  • banzaib... damnyou... 2012/03/28 01:01:37
    banzaibuckaroo
    are you denial? you can't change the news from the past, and this was a Republican idea.
  • damnyou... banzaib... 2012/03/28 11:37:13
    damnyoumaggot
    +1
    I'm not living in the past.
  • banzaib... damnyou... 2012/03/28 17:20:23
    banzaibuckaroo
    then start realizing that Obamacare is a REPUBLICAN IDEA.
  • damnyou... banzaib... 2012/03/29 10:12:18
    damnyoumaggot
    +1
    Obama is President (now) in the present. It's his bill. Try to keep up...or get lost.
  • banzaib... damnyou... 2012/03/29 15:54:18 (edited)
    banzaibuckaroo
    Can't deal with that facts? LOL! It's a Repubican idea, that Obama picked up....heck, everyone knows this. The word is "idea" and it came from someone. Yes, it's Obama bill, but it came from a 1993 Repubican congressman. Open your eyes, maggot.

    In 1993, at the height of President Bill Clinton's health care reform initiative, Sen. John Chafee, R-R.I., along with 19 other Republicans and two Democrats, put forth a bill which was considered the major GOP proposal. One of the co-sponsors was then-Sen. Dave Durenberger, R-Minn. The bill, just like the Democratic version, never passed. But in a sense, it's been revived this year.



    In fact, the key provisions in the Chafee bill may seem familiar, as they bear a strong resemblance to those in the current Democratic Senate bill, and now in President Barack Obama's proposal. A mandate that individuals buy insurance, subsidies for the poor to buy insurance and the requirement that insurers offer a standard benefits package and refrain from discriminating based on pre-existing conditions were all in the 1993 GOP bill.



    Former Senator Durenberger (R- Minnesota) says the reason many of these ideas have been shunned by today's Republicans, even called unconstitutional by some, is that political times have changed. "The main thing that's changed is the definition of a Republican.

    Obamacare is a Republican idea.
  • Michaelene banzaib... 2012/03/29 17:20:48
    Michaelene
    +1
    Well at least youre not blaming Bush, LMAO

    The bill failed regardless of which idiot thought it was a good idea, unlike Obamacare that passed on partisan votes with the help of buying, oops I mean bribing, a few holdouts.
  • banzaib... Michaelene 2012/03/30 03:29:14
    banzaibuckaroo
    Bush had nothing to do with this, but the truth is...the bulk of the Obama bill is very much like Senator Chafee bill. I have a bad feeling whether this law is deemed unconstitutional or not by the Supreme Court, that Obama will come out ahead.
  • Michaelene banzaib... 2012/03/30 10:07:40
    Michaelene
    +1
    How and why is that?
    A POTUS who "taught" constitutional law, bribed his way to get the law passed and then fails to be able to explain it. If it fails to be constitutional then how could he come out ahead?
  • banzaib... Michaelene 2012/03/30 17:17:59
    banzaibuckaroo
    if it does get striken down, you will see the independent and moderate retirees who are on medicare, will be turning their head away from Romney. A good number of 2.5 million students who getting healthcare under the current law (which is one of the areas they shouldn't touch) might actually vote against Romney, and the biggest number 54 million people with pre-existing condition might fire back with their votes.

    In the end of the day, it's going to be the number of votes that going be the most important issues.
  • Michaelene banzaib... 2012/04/01 13:02:27
    Michaelene
    I had no idea that Romney could influence the Supreme Court.

    At the end of the day, people need to realize that EVERYONE wants healthcare reform and there are several issues that are not addressed by this law. Government control of health care is a very bad idea, their record in other areas scream waste and fraud.
  • banzaib... Michaelene 2012/04/01 16:25:00
    banzaibuckaroo
    Stop being a moron on your first sentence, you know what it means.

    The issue I have with Obamacare is the mandatory mandates of everyone getting healthcare, not like everyone can afford it, but the statues of current law is okay with me. If you think about it, what plans do the Republicans have as an option? Watch 1:37 mark of this video, and this is they offer. Sorry, but this is a fact. I don't like Obama, but at least we have this much in reforms. Again, votes count, and I hope the mandates are stricken down, but the Supreme court might shake a bee hive that they know could cause ripples on the political landscape.
  • Michaelene banzaib... 2012/04/02 12:27:15
    Michaelene
    +1
    I'm not following you, perhaps you can explain your postition without insults?
    Sad that you needed to go there in the first place, I always let the first one slide.

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