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DFA 2012/06/16 00:58:43
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  • Average... schjaz 2012/06/16 15:45:01 (edited)
    Average Joe
    Here are the facts of the matter with your erroneous claims about FOX. The station does NOT produce facts but opinion and admits as much ...
    http://www.pensitoreview.com/...
  • Maveric... Average... 2012/06/16 20:52:21
    Maverick Capitalist
    +6
    Get some facts to support your conclusions, not innuendo and supposition. And yes Fox does admit to offering News Programs, such as Fox Report, Studio B, Happening Now, America's News Room, Special Report with Bret Baier. http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
  • Average... Maveric... 2012/06/29 00:18:20
    Average Joe
    A direct quote from the VP at FOX is not "innuendo and supposition" but many FOX hounds have difficulty digesting these type revelations even when -facts- are there for the taking.

    Here is Clemente's written statement to CNN in case you missed it (or selectively chose to ignore it) ... "An increasing number of viewers are relying on Fox News for both news and opinion,” Fox News Senior VP Michael Clemente said in the statement, “and the average news consumer can certainly distinguish between the A-section of the newspaper and the editorial page, which is what our programming represents."

    Clemente likened FOX programming to that of an "editorial page." An editorial page is pure opinion. "Programming" encompasses all of the station's content and is not limited to a certain broadcast.

    When it comes down to arguing semantics, yes, the station does provide "news" but of the most obvious and egregious slant. It intentionally distorts, reporting out of context and even outright fallacies. In unforgivable haste, the station rushes to report and errs (such as it's most recent goof of epic proportions ... initially reporting the Supreme Court rejected the national health care plan before revising it) often. In similar fashion, CNN also flubbed with the same mistake today.

    You're right in one regard. No other network compares.
  • getu Average... 2012/06/27 20:35:48
    getu
    Actually, they offer both. Some of the programming is "News"; some is editorial. They also invite guests from both political groups to comment on the issue being discussed (in the opinion segments). No other network offers that comparison.
  • Jorge Enriquez 2012/06/16 15:00:10
    Other... explain
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  • Saye Saye 2012/06/16 13:36:33
    Both are bad
    Saye Saye
    Bias
  • ladypamela 2012/06/16 13:10:59
    FOX
    ladypamela
    +1
    When I want to hear real news and truth, I watch Democracy Now! Democracy now
  • Maveric... ladypamela 2012/06/16 20:55:12
    Maverick Capitalist
    +6
    Why do these two individuals looked so positively pissed off? Apparently being a liberal isn't a whole lot of fun. Perhaps it's because it requires continuous lying and deceit.
  • ladypamela Maveric... 2012/06/18 18:06:28
    ladypamela
    We need BOTH parties....or better, yet....NEITHER....I'm a Liberal and damn proud of it, I neither LIE or DECIEVE.....speak for yourself!
  • All American 2012/06/16 12:32:10
    MSNBC
    All American
    +12
    MSNBC by a million light years. I'm conservative, but I watch both, and I can honestly say that to watch MSNBC, you need waders, not boots with all the BS they spew forth.
  • Helmholtz 2012/06/16 07:21:02
    Both are bad
    Helmholtz
    +4
    Back when I had a TV, it was unequivocally FOX. MSNBC was still pretty objective. The handful of times I've seen them over the last year or so, though, they seemed to really have taken on an agenda. I prefer my news dry, to the point, and without commentary.
  • getu Helmholtz 2012/06/16 21:37:30
    getu
    +1
    Walter Cronkite and Edward R Murrow have both left the building.
  • Wolfman 2012/06/16 07:11:14
    MSNBC
    Wolfman
    +12
    But no harm is done. Nobody watches it anyway.

    msnbc cris matthewes
  • Soundstorm Wolfman 2012/06/18 08:51:34
    Soundstorm
    He seems to be saying, "Don't look at me! Go away! GO AWAY!!"
  • Wolfman Soundstorm 2012/06/18 08:53:45 (edited)
    Wolfman
    Nobody is looking at him. He's a Lost Boy in Neverland.

    http://www.liveforfilms.com/w...
  • Pinball Wizard 2012/06/16 07:06:33
    FOX
    Pinball Wizard
    My Dad watches both but, he says Fox News leans toward the GOP.
  • Cal Pinball... 2012/06/17 18:47:42
    Cal
    +3
    The difference is - Fox reports everything - while the other stations report what they are told. Take note to what is reported that is important...that is ignored by the other stations.
  • Soundstorm Pinball... 2012/06/18 08:52:59
    Soundstorm
    I can't imagine why that's bad. Every other channel leans towards the jackass party.
  • Michael 2012/06/16 05:53:40
    FOX
    Michael
    +6
    Faux News gets caught lying their heads off on a daily basis. MSNBC is slightly left-leaning, and all of their stories can be corroborated. Faux is the first instance of a 24-hour traitor network committed to weakening their home country.
  • Cal Michael 2012/06/17 18:48:03
    Cal
    +3
    Slightly left leaning??????

    facepalm
  • Soundstorm Michael 2012/06/18 08:55:01
    Soundstorm
    How would you know? You're only parroting Media Matters talking points without ever watching Fox News.
  • Katfish 2012/06/16 05:47:30
  • BlytheSpirit~bn0 2012/06/16 05:32:05
    Both are bad
    BlytheSpirit~bn0
    +2
    They are two sides of the same coin and neither side is good.
  • Saye Saye BlytheS... 2012/06/16 13:37:52
    Saye Saye
    +1
    guess that rules out flipping the coin, so just flip the finger.
  • BlytheS... Saye Saye 2012/06/17 03:07:57
    BlytheSpirit~bn0
    Very sage advice.
  • Hebsi 2012/06/16 05:23:55
    FOX
    Hebsi
    +3
    This Jon Stewart video proves it alone:

  • Maveric... Hebsi 2012/06/16 20:59:07
    Maverick Capitalist
    More brilliant logic from useful idiots using a fake news program to disprove the an actual news organization. At least you continue to show the world why America ranks 25th in the world in education.
  • Hebsi Maveric... 2012/06/16 21:46:37
    Hebsi
    The Daily Show is more of a factual news program than "actual news" organization Fox will ever be. Oh, and I'm Canadian, so I'll take your comment of me showing the world why America ranks so low in the world in education as a compliment.
  • Mel 2012/06/16 04:58:20
    FOX
    Mel
    +5
    Fox is not news. It's all opinion and biased
  • Cal 2012/06/16 04:53:18
    MSNBC
    Cal
    +10
    This one. MSNBC lies all the time, doesn't accurately report, and is in the governments pocket. It's the closest thing to state run media America has. Fox simply reports on what the liberal media refuses to acknowledge....I see that as a good thing.
  • Average... Cal 2012/06/16 15:46:22
    Average Joe
    Wrong. Your comment illustrates how the die-hard FOX viewers are in denial in even in lieu of the station's admitting it is NOT news.

    http://www.pensitoreview.com/...
  • Cal Average... 2012/06/17 18:43:31 (edited)
    Cal
    Your comment illustrates how delusional you and your group is in the face of the obvious. You know what they say haters gonna hate. So keep hating...but don't try to cover the eyes of others with your half assed lies. Thanks.
  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/06/16 04:47:48
    MSNBC
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +9
    They could not report the truth if it hit them.
  • Tobi-Akumaru 2012/06/16 04:42:20
    FOX
    Tobi-Akumaru
    +3
    MSNBC has ppl, like Rachel Maddow and Ed, who actually try to look out for America. But do some of us appreciate the piece of information that they give that FOX doesn't? No. They rather sit on their happy butts and let this rot on the ground like it noting. The news MSNBC gives us should be used to see the wrong that is going on in America and actually get up off our butts and do something! Instead of complaining for once!
  • SW 2012/06/16 04:09:24
    FOX
    SW
    +4
    There's no such thing as the "Democrat Party." If you call it that it means you've been brainwashed by Fox's Orwellian "nuspeak." It's the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. Speak English. You know, the party that got us out of the Republican Great Depression, gave us the biggest middle class the world has ever seen, beat the Nazis and put a man on the Moon. Tell me all the great things Republicans have done for our county in the last 100 years? Besides wars, stock market crashes, and bank bailouts not much.

    Second, People who watch MSNBC don't think Saddam attacked us on 911, they can find more countries on a map and have a proven better understanding of world events. People who watch Fox know less than people who watch no news at all.

    http://www.newscorpse.com/ncW...


    MSNBC never organized an anti-Bush rally. Fox has organized tea parties. MSNBC never donated a million dollars for the DNC. Fox has donated to the GOP. MSNBC doesn't "accidentally" show big crowds from wrong days to fool people. Fox does it all the time. When Rachael Maddow donated money to a candidate MSNBC suspended her. Because MSNBC has rules. Fox pundits openly donate, endorse and lick the boots of Republicans all the time.

    There's no comparison. Fox is a 24 hour propaganda machine, MSNBC is a news organ...

    There's no such thing as the "Democrat Party." If you call it that it means you've been brainwashed by Fox's Orwellian "nuspeak." It's the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. Speak English. You know, the party that got us out of the Republican Great Depression, gave us the biggest middle class the world has ever seen, beat the Nazis and put a man on the Moon. Tell me all the great things Republicans have done for our county in the last 100 years? Besides wars, stock market crashes, and bank bailouts not much.

    Second, People who watch MSNBC don't think Saddam attacked us on 911, they can find more countries on a map and have a proven better understanding of world events. People who watch Fox know less than people who watch no news at all.

    http://www.newscorpse.com/ncW...
    events people watch fox people watch news httpwww newscorpse comncw

    MSNBC never organized an anti-Bush rally. Fox has organized tea parties. MSNBC never donated a million dollars for the DNC. Fox has donated to the GOP. MSNBC doesn't "accidentally" show big crowds from wrong days to fool people. Fox does it all the time. When Rachael Maddow donated money to a candidate MSNBC suspended her. Because MSNBC has rules. Fox pundits openly donate, endorse and lick the boots of Republicans all the time.

    There's no comparison. Fox is a 24 hour propaganda machine, MSNBC is a news organization.

    MSNBC gave Michael Savage his own show for God sake. That would be like Fox having the "Michael Moore Hour." Here's a hint, Ditto-heads: When something really is "fair and balanced." they don't have to tell you all the time.
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  • Kirby SW 2012/06/16 13:12:30
    Kirby
    Excellent post , Kind of surprised the Faux ditto heads haven't lost their minds on this but as they say the TRUTH HURTS!
  • Headshot760 2012/06/16 04:02:09
    FOX
    Headshot760
    +1
    Without a doubt.
  • chaoskitty123 2012/06/16 04:00:43
    Both are bad
    chaoskitty123
    +1
    Both are bad as MSNBC likes to attack FOX for the very things they do even more of. FOX likes to brag it's number one which after a while gets on your nerves even though it's true. They are obviously rightwing. However, MSNBC is worse in that they try to deny they are leftwing even as they do commercials for the network where their news entertainers actually tell you the network is Progressive and attack FOX on more of a personal level.

    FOX is number one for a simple reason the left doesn't understand. Back in the 60's, the news was almost entirely rightwing but networks that offered leftwing news got better ratings. Today, all the networks but FOX are leftwing so that they give FOX all the rightwing and right leaning Moderate viewers. Thus, on any given day, FOX beats all the other networks combined... it's simple logic and facts the left are too blind to see.

    While the left attacks FOX for being rightwing and for the things it does in that cause, they cannot understand that it is how unbalanced and leftwing all the other networks are that FOX stands alone as the only network offering a fair and balanced news programming... not because they give the left equal billing, but because they are the only network giving the political right any real say on the issues at all.

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    Both are bad as MSNBC likes to attack FOX for the very things they do even more of. FOX likes to brag it's number one which after a while gets on your nerves even though it's true. They are obviously rightwing. However, MSNBC is worse in that they try to deny they are leftwing even as they do commercials for the network where their news entertainers actually tell you the network is Progressive and attack FOX on more of a personal level.

    FOX is number one for a simple reason the left doesn't understand. Back in the 60's, the news was almost entirely rightwing but networks that offered leftwing news got better ratings. Today, all the networks but FOX are leftwing so that they give FOX all the rightwing and right leaning Moderate viewers. Thus, on any given day, FOX beats all the other networks combined... it's simple logic and facts the left are too blind to see.

    While the left attacks FOX for being rightwing and for the things it does in that cause, they cannot understand that it is how unbalanced and leftwing all the other networks are that FOX stands alone as the only network offering a fair and balanced news programming... not because they give the left equal billing, but because they are the only network giving the political right any real say on the issues at all.

    The end result... FOX gets over half the viewers, their ratings make them extremely profitable and the other networks fight for the remaining half of the viewers meaning they are unprofitable and losing millions of dollars.

    Keith Olbermann is the poster child for what's wrong with the left as his hate and vitriol every day set a standard other leftwing news entertainers tried to emulate. But eventually, it caught up with Olbermann as he became so consumed by his hate for the political right, it seeped into his everyday life and behind the scenes he treated everyone like sh*t. He went to CurrentTV and was fired by Al Gore a year to the day after hiring him because of this same behind the scenes hate that not even ultra left Gore could stand.

    The political left has a huge problem in that almost all of them are Democrats and half their party remains rightwing. So when the Democrats in Washington DC gain power, hatemongers like Keith Olbermann inflame the leftwing extremists to a point they not only alienate the Republicans completely against them, they split their own party against itself by attacking rightwing Democrats... this generally leads the Democrats to ruin because you cannot hold power when you cannot even hold your own party together. Obama is a perfect example as he needs a united party but the extreme left split the Democrats against one another pushing the right to work with rightwing Republicans.

    When you watch MSNBC and their commercials promoting the network, you see people like Ed Schultz outright attacking the Republicans and rightwingers while promoting the Progressive agenda... he tells you in his own words where there is no misunderstanding





    The point here is that people like Schultz are doing more harm than good for the left. He was whining all during the situation in Wisconsin then demanding that Obama get involved, then bragging how Scott Walker didn't have a chance because the unions were going to take him down, then crying like a baby after Walker won to hold his job how big money bought him the job when the simple truth is that most voters in Wisconsin support Walker and Schultz isn't one of the people who has to live with what's happening there... he's an outside agitator trying to inflame Americans against the political right but he does it in a way where almost everyone can see the man for what he really is.

    You will never win with people like Schultz or Olbermann because they represent the extreme extreme left and you cannot fight extremism or hate with extremism or hate. If that's how the left sees the political right, then the secret to winning isn't to become like them... it's to become the opposite of them. That has nothing to do with ideological beliefs... it addresses behavior and standing behind your beliefs rather than slinging mud trying to beat the other side doing the exact same things you claim they are doing that's hurt this country.

    Who are the wealthiest leaders in Washington DC? Who receives the most money to look the other way or to support a cause they don't even believe in... leftwing Democrats!

    While many use FOX as an example of what's wrong with the political right, they should pay more attention to MSNBC and how they're doing everything they attack FOX for doing... and the fact they do it for your side doesn't make it any better, it makes it worse when all the networks but FOX are leftwing.

    And why is it that all these networks are owned by wealthy rightwing corporations?

    Doesn't that sound fishy? It should sound fishy because if you want to destroy the left and make them a pale third against Moderates and Conservatives... you buy ownership of the networks and control the information... you hire extreme leftwing news personalities and you could care less if you lose millions of dollars every year on these networks because you're earning hundreds of millions by feeding the watchdogs a juicy steak while you rob their masters home blind.

    The political right hasn't done any damage to the political left... the left has done it to themselves with self inflicted injuries.

    MSNBC is far worse than FOX in regard to the damage it's done to the left... FOX simply reaps the rewards of being the only network that gives the political right a voice 24 hours a day.

    It really is not that hard to figure it out... both are bad but MSNBC is far worse because of it's self destructive "I'm gonna knock you out" mentality towards the right and then slips on a banana peel trying to get in the boxing ring knocking themselves out when their head bounces off the floor.

    This is MSNBC...



    And this is what they make of FOX because of it...



    As a Centrist who voted for Obama and supported the left when Bush was President, I did NOT support them to have them become worse than they accuse the political right of being and trying to prove they're even more badass about doing it... I supported them because of who they were and what they claimed to believe, not for what these punk a** jokes like Ed Schultz and Keith Olberman made of them making everything they claim to believe in a mockery instead.
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  • Average... chaoski... 2012/06/16 15:47:16
  • Bob, the reasonable one 2012/06/16 03:45:06
    MSNBC
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +7
    the most brazen opinion news organization ever...worse than CNN....I wouldn't lose any sleep if all of them were unemployed tomorrow....I would probably be in the best mood ever in my life....

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