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Which group is getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibilities: Corporations or people?

bob 2012/06/05 17:38:04
Corporations are getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibilities and lower taxation
We the people are getting less freedoms and liberties with more responsibilities and higher taxation
Corporations are getting less freedoms and liberties with more responsibilities and more taxation
We the people are getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibilities and lower taxation
Corporations now have free speech, soon they will have the vote and the right to bear arms
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  • ajracestables1 2012/06/05 22:08:51
    We the people are getting less freedoms and liberties with more responsibilit...
    ajracestables1
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    Thanks to the liberals we pay more for less and are forced to support the lazy that should be fending for themselves.
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  • Jorge Enriquez 2012/07/05 03:14:51
    Corporations are getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibiliti...
    Jorge Enriquez
    corporation fraud
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  • P. Sturm 2012/07/01 19:20:29
    Corporations are getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibiliti...
    P. Sturm
    Definitely corporations. I heard the senates trying to pass a bill legalizing embezzling and senatorial bribery.
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  • Brosia 2012/06/30 03:46:52
    Corporations are getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibiliti...
    Brosia
    Hell, they now have more rights than regular people when donating to political campaigns.
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  • Fenris 2012/06/07 19:18:14
    Corporations are getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibiliti...
    Fenris
    +1
    Allways!
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  • beach bum 2012/06/07 13:05:06
    All of the above
    beach bum
    +1
    all of the above
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  • Paul 2012/06/06 18:53:48
    Corporations are getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibiliti...
    Paul
    +1
    An individual basically has to accept responsibility for their own actions, corporations can pass the buck to easily with too many easy loopholes with responsibility getting assigned to an idea just on paper. That paper can go in the waste can too easy screwing individuals, leaving CEO's untouched for dishonest, or irresponsible action.

    Romney knows too well how that kind of system works, and I believe why he was chosen by republican base for Presidential candidate. I can't see how a man like Romney can benefit the majority of the country and it's workers.

    Good point bringing up corporations, responsibility, and liberty. Giving corporations same liberties as the individual with their inherent lack of responsibility is a bad trend.
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  • Charles R. Anderson 2012/06/06 03:17:01
    We the people are getting less freedoms and liberties with more responsibilit...
    Charles R. Anderson
    +2
    And my complaint is leveled against big government, not the associations people make freely in the private sector. Yes, some companies play to government favoritism, but so do labor unions, environmental groups, and some minorities. They do this because big government has too much power to hurt them or to give them special favors. The solution is to reduce government to its constitutional highly limited powers.
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  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/06/06 02:00:51
    None of the above
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    Actually we both have lost some liberties and freedoms.
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  • jdemme 2012/06/06 00:48:10
    Corporations are getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibiliti...
    jdemme
    +1
    Corporations have a ton of money compared to the common people, and they can't be tried for murder or given the death penalty.
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  • umapathy Krishnamurthy 2012/06/06 00:38:35
    Corporations are getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibiliti...
    umapathy Krishnamurthy
    +2
    Yes only big corporations getting more and more common people getting more affected
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  • Gordon 2012/06/05 23:57:02
    None of the above
    Gordon
    +1
    Welfare recipients. They do nothing and don't pay back a cent of what they get.
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  • bob Gordon 2012/06/06 13:49:21
    bob
    yawn
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  • Paul Gordon 2012/06/06 19:02:17
    Paul
    What is your point about corporations? All the big government bailouts for corporations that don't need to pay the money back seems like a much bigger fraud on a grander scale then giving individuals who need it barely enough $ to exsist and survive.
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  • Gordon Paul 2012/06/07 11:24:48
    Gordon
    I don't agree with corporations being bailed out with taxpayer money either. There is too much corruption and waste involved. But, I read that some of that money was repaid. However, it should never have taken place.
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  • Stan Kapusta 2012/06/05 23:55:39
    Corporations are getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibiliti...
    Stan Kapusta
    +2
    Corporations are getting away with more than reported. Try doing an honest audit. I rest my case.
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  • RJeffreySavlov 2012/06/05 23:08:22
    None of the above
    RJeffreySavlov
    +1
    The ones who donate more money to the Democrat re-election campaigns.
    The latest jobs bill which was just passed will create no jobs but give offshore corporations,China and Russia the ability to flood our country with their crap. Thank you Harry Reid.
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  • HillaryLover 2012/06/05 22:37:16
    None of the above
    HillaryLover
    Corporations are people. Don't life. Check out your 401K. Corporations are not robots. They are controlled by people. The problem is: people fail to exercise that control. The same could be said of "the people" inter actions with their government. Governments are also people.
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  • Solomonster 2012/06/05 22:24:36
    Corporations are getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibiliti...
    Solomonster
    +1
    loaded questions rule!
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  • Kane Fernau 2012/06/05 22:20:01
    None of the above
    Kane Fernau
    +1
    Every year more and more frequent to organize even small enterprises into corporations. The "one-man corporation" or "the close corporation" is no longer an isolated phenomenon. Thousands of men who prefer to have themselves and their estates relieved from possible liabilities due to misfortunes of business, or who wish to organize in such a way that it will be easy to sell interests or gradually to transfer the control, have decided to adopt the corporate form. The expense of so doing is slight, and they feel that it is well worth while.

    It is becoming more and more common also to incorporate the estates of deceased persons and to distribute shares in the corporation among the heirs of the estate so that a proper division of interest may be secured without a physical division or forced sale of the property. Small corporations for temporary purposes, also, are not uncommon. An individual may get up a corporation to publish a book or to carry through a piece of speculating in real estate.
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  • Paul Kane Fe... 2012/06/06 19:35:04
    Paul
    +1
    Corporations do play a major role in our society, and the smal simple organizing of small companies, estates, or an individual just simply protecting themselves and or the convenience of incorporating, I believe is generally done with honest intentions and actually general protocal in today's world.

    I think we all have to admit though, the too large to fall corporations that have been propt up by our government lately, gets overwhelming for our society footing such large amounts of money and paying on that kind of bill.
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  • Kane Fe... Paul 2012/06/06 19:45:35
    Kane Fernau
    It is the government's job to stop monopolies. The government shouldn't own corporations either.
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  • ajracestables1 2012/06/05 22:08:51
    We the people are getting less freedoms and liberties with more responsibilit...
    ajracestables1
    +3
    Thanks to the liberals we pay more for less and are forced to support the lazy that should be fending for themselves.
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  • Paul ajraces... 2012/06/06 19:14:32
    Paul
    Thanks to the conservatives, corporations have more leverage and have forced too many individuals desitute and unable to fend for themselves. Aside from a few, it has nothing to do with laziness or people that don't want to take care of themselves. Don't fool yourselves thinking it was just liberals that created the unemployment and vast welfare system we have.
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  • ajraces... Paul 2012/06/07 18:45:04
    ajracestables1
    Last I heard, liberals love taking from the rich to support welfare, they also think it is a crime to be rich. Hard work and dedication creates success and if you have success then you should not be forced to give it to somebody that wants to just collect welfare. There should be no such thing as welfare. Government is supposed to help protect our rites not give and take them or regulate them. We need less government and more independence for the people.
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  • Rich Matarese 2012/06/05 21:47:28
  • Ron in Oregon 2012/06/05 21:33:44
    None of the above
    Ron in Oregon
    Do you work for a company.
    Please check and I bet you will most likely find that it is a corporation.
    It may be a single member of even a family held corporation or a stockholder owned corporation.
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  • edifyguy 2012/06/05 21:26:02
    We the people are getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibili...
    edifyguy
    +1
    And that isn't a good thing. Moocher people are getting a free ride off the government teat, and "corporations" are being punished with confiscatory taxes and insufferable levels of regulation. All that does is kill jobs and further weaken our economy, but it makes idiots feel good because, in their mind, free money is freedom.
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  • Old Poet 2012/06/05 21:13:07
    None of the above
    Old Poet
    +2
    You've put a lot of thought nto this Bob, but it just isn't that simple. Actually no one is getting less taxation.today than yesterday. The responsibilities are always in flux. If we take the emotion out of the subject, we can see that Domestic Corporatons doing business around the world are the most taxed anywhere in the industialized world. Bob if you live in Florida I believe you have no State Income Tax. However if you work in Georgia, you do and must declare so and pay Georgia State Income Tax. But what if Florida had a state income tax, You would only pay state tax on what you earned in Georgia to Georgia and what you earned in Florida to Florida.

    Not so American based corporations. If they earn a dollar in America they pay tax on that dollar to America. If they earn a dollar in England they pay tax on that dollar in England.....and again in the United States. In other words they are being double taxed on foreign income. So, putting all other considerations aside, why should a corporation doing business here and abroad desire to be based here in America? Fortunately there are other considerations. However, that is changing. Amaco loaned BP the money to buy them in the 90's in order to be domiciled in England and saved millions in taxes. Ever drink an Bub....








    You've put a lot of thought nto this Bob, but it just isn't that simple. Actually no one is getting less taxation.today than yesterday. The responsibilities are always in flux. If we take the emotion out of the subject, we can see that Domestic Corporatons doing business around the world are the most taxed anywhere in the industialized world. Bob if you live in Florida I believe you have no State Income Tax. However if you work in Georgia, you do and must declare so and pay Georgia State Income Tax. But what if Florida had a state income tax, You would only pay state tax on what you earned in Georgia to Georgia and what you earned in Florida to Florida.

    Not so American based corporations. If they earn a dollar in America they pay tax on that dollar to America. If they earn a dollar in England they pay tax on that dollar in England.....and again in the United States. In other words they are being double taxed on foreign income. So, putting all other considerations aside, why should a corporation doing business here and abroad desire to be based here in America? Fortunately there are other considerations. However, that is changing. Amaco loaned BP the money to buy them in the 90's in order to be domiciled in England and saved millions in taxes. Ever drink an Bub. They are no longer based in St Louis for the same reason. Dillard's Department stores is out of Belgium but used to be a domestic corporation.

    Could others follow? Absolutely. As foreign earnings grow, what do you expect them to do. There is not room here to advance this complex subject beyond emotional reactions.
    The tax laws are based in inequity and are for a reason since they came into existance nearly a hundred years ago.

    Would we be better off budgetwise by letting the "Bush Tax Cts" expire? Of course and every time my son gets in trouble I bail him out. He just does it again knowing I will bail him out again. Where does it end? Remember we all, the people and corporations alike pay. Is it the same? No. We are not the same entities.

    Remember, whether you are a an individual or a corporation you pay, in many states, over 50% of your income in taxes, federal, state and local; sales, income and property both real estate and personal.. Corporations can however, defer some of their taxes by paying dividends or as LLC's disburse earnings back to their investors. It just isn't that simple. Run business out of America and someone has to pay the taxes. It will fall to you and I.

    Freedoms and responsibilities, Bob that's a whole book by itself. Thank you for presenting a very thought inspiring subject.
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  • Ron in ... Old Poet 2012/06/05 21:27:53
    Ron in Oregon
    +1
    I have been wondering about this kind of information.
    Why is it that Macy's has a big Red Star as their logo?
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  • Old Poet Ron in ... 2012/06/05 22:14:49
    Old Poet
    +1
    I would have to research that one sir. I fear we have just seen the tip of the iceberg. Between the ever weakening dollar making us prime targets for buyouts and the taxation, we will lose many more. China may yet just buy America and take the profits home.

    Thank you for your interesting and well thought out comment, Sir.
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  • Ron in ... Old Poet 2012/06/10 17:47:56
    Ron in Oregon
    Let me know when you find out because I have been unable to find out and I have tried.
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  • Old Poet Ron in ... 2012/06/11 14:30:21
    Old Poet
    I shall.
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  • Paul Old Poet 2012/06/06 19:23:35
    Paul
    Really not so simple is it, is a thought inspiring idea about the individual vs the corporation, and then our government making rules to distinguish the differences and who is allowed to do what in a "free Nation."
    thanks for your post!
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  • Old Poet Paul 2012/06/06 20:49:28
    Old Poet
    +1
    We are on a dangerous road to destruction.
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  • Christian 2012/06/05 20:47:00
    Corporations are getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibiliti...
    Christian
    +1
    Corps are taking us over.
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  • fudge35 2012/06/05 19:43:33
    Corporations are getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibiliti...
    fudge35
    +2
    Of course Corporations can buy off congress, and get all the welfare they want. The people don't have that advantage.
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  • ETpro 2012/06/05 19:35:22
    Corporations are getting more freedoms and liberties with less responsibiliti...
    ETpro
    +1
    If corporations are people, they must be the supermen of people.
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  • bob ETpro 2012/06/06 13:51:17
    bob
    Corporations are certainly getting superhuman freedoms and liberties with less responsibilities
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  • Bud 2012/06/05 19:10:30
    Corporations are getting less freedoms and liberties with more responsibiliti...
    Bud
    +3
    With all the regulations put on corporations by federal and state governments they hardly have any freedoms at all. Then the unions are trying to dictate where they can do business. All of this affects their freedoms. In short, a burgeoning goverment is restricting all of our freedoms. Our horrible tax code affects everyone and raises costs to business and individuals.

    Bud
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  • jon 2012/06/05 18:51:51
    None of the above
    jon
    +1
    Well still down to it I see, you would never admit the correct answer.
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