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Which do you think is true: creationism or evolution?

Mopeder 2012/01/22 02:27:46
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  • kbrown2225 2012/01/22 02:35:04
    Evolution
    kbrown2225
    +20
    Everyone knows that the world was created when the giant cow began licking the ice and uncovered Ymir the frost giant whose body makes up the earth. What Norse mythology not good enough for you but Judaic mythology is?

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  • BREW 2012/05/22 07:51:15
    Creationism
    BREW
    what could we possibly evolve into next, "grow wings and fly"
  • Derek 2012/02/03 00:32:08
    Creationism
    Derek
    Are you kidding me. I didn't vote for this. Obviously not creationism.
  • sombernina 2012/02/02 01:11:24
    Evolution
    sombernina
    Despite your beliefs, evolution HAS occured... hence your sinuses, which were left over from the salamader days xD
  • boots 2012/01/30 18:40:57
    Evolution
    boots
    Evolution is not a theory it is fact .
    To all people who deny this please remove your head from your ass .
  • russian doll 2012/01/30 10:51:02
    Evolution
    russian doll
    religions are fake and manmade...politics and religion are the root cause of all evil
  • Gartharun 2012/01/28 20:13:18
    Both
    Gartharun
    I know evolution to be true, but I still have faith in the Æsir
  • BwaHa 2012/01/27 00:55:30
    Evolution
    BwaHa
    Evolution's a continuing, ongoing, never ending process.
  • NoBama Man 2012/01/26 06:08:34
  • SatansM... NoBama Man 2012/01/26 09:02:38
  • NoBama Man SatansM... 2012/01/26 19:39:47
    NoBama Man
    That's an excellent THEORY...as valid as any other...
  • SatansM... NoBama Man 2012/01/27 00:16:38
  • Ian NoBama Man 2012/02/18 07:59:43
    Ian
    So you say God created everything,WOOW there is no God.The form we are in now would have been something very different if we had been more near the sun, or further away from the sun, its called evolution.
    If god made man in his own image, why have i got nipples, do men brest feed their babies,there is no evolution but men have nipples!
  • NoBama Man Ian 2012/02/19 05:53:10 (edited)
    NoBama Man
    Keep in mind that you have put your 'faith' in a 'theory' that was put forth by a man who he himself as well as his immediate family deliberately married first cousins and believed in eugenics...someone who believed that through inbreeding, that he and their elite counterparts could produce 'superhumans' by keeping their genetics confined within the Galton-DArwin-Wedgewood 'elite family tree'...that 'experiment' of his THEORY didn't turn out so well...


    In fact, much like his failed family experiments, his own "Theory of Evolution', which was based on 'survival of the fittest', is contradictory within itself..
    We do KNOW that mutations and retardation's in the real world rarely if ever survive in natural conditions, i.e. albino animals are born without their natural camouflage and rarely survive natural lifespans...so the theory that evolution is solely born from mutations in itself is contradictory to the 'survival of the fittest' since these 'mutations' would have had to occurred in significant numbers and then survived long enough to breed in order to propagate the 'mutation'...or 'evolution'. While there is to some extent significant evidence that this has occurred over millennia in individual species, the suggestion that ALL species propagated from these mutations is as ...



    Keep in mind that you have put your 'faith' in a 'theory' that was put forth by a man who he himself as well as his immediate family deliberately married first cousins and believed in eugenics...someone who believed that through inbreeding, that he and their elite counterparts could produce 'superhumans' by keeping their genetics confined within the Galton-DArwin-Wedgewood 'elite family tree'...that 'experiment' of his THEORY didn't turn out so well...
    darwin family tree

    In fact, much like his failed family experiments, his own "Theory of Evolution', which was based on 'survival of the fittest', is contradictory within itself..
    We do KNOW that mutations and retardation's in the real world rarely if ever survive in natural conditions, i.e. albino animals are born without their natural camouflage and rarely survive natural lifespans...so the theory that evolution is solely born from mutations in itself is contradictory to the 'survival of the fittest' since these 'mutations' would have had to occurred in significant numbers and then survived long enough to breed in order to propagate the 'mutation'...or 'evolution'. While there is to some extent significant evidence that this has occurred over millennia in individual species, the suggestion that ALL species propagated from these mutations is as questionable as ANY theory or faith.
    What is not at all surprising is that an unsubstantiated 'theory' (much like global warming) has become a 'scientific fact' perpetuated by ruling 'highly educated' elites, who believed THEY had ALL the answers and could actually control genetics through population control and inbreeding...
    So you keep the faith in YOUR beliefs and I'll keep the faith in my beliefs, and when we get to the other side....the winner buys the beer.

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  • Ian NoBama Man 2012/02/19 08:26:50
    Ian
    +1
    OK,if we reach the other.I will gladly buy you a bear.The question of how we got here and how we game to be what we are will go on, one thing i do now Darwin and Einstien were not completly right.
    What appears right can be proved wrong in time.
  • Ian NoBama Man 2012/02/19 08:37:21
    Ian
    Most mutations do not survive, has you did point out.
    A mutation is a freak of nature, the develompent was quick, something that has gone through the laborious path of evolution will survive, or something comes along that they cant adapt to, in the given timescale of that event.
    Sharks do not have to carry on down the path of evolution, they were perfected millions of years ago.
    Has you said you have your views i have mine, and thats all i have to say.
  • Pops 2012/01/25 22:14:44
    Both
    Pops
    Seems that there is as just a good a chance as both going on.
  • Brian 2012/01/24 18:16:55
    Evolution
    Brian
    +4
    I am a Christian, but I do believe in evolution, because all the evidence supports it. The fossil record clearly shows it, and the global genome verifies it. One has to ignore the evidence from both anthropology, and genetics to be an evolution denier.

    The bible itself does not "preclude" a belief in evolution, unless one attempts to "interpret" the scriptures literally. Unfortunately, a literal interpretation presents many other problems as well.

    I will go with the research of thousands of scientists using corroborating evidence from "different" disciplines, rather than with a small, but "very" vocal group of zealots with an religious "agenda".
  • me 2012/01/24 16:54:09
    Both
    me
    Thank you Father for life and freedom of choice.
    To bad so many decide to deny you as you will them in the end.
  • SatansMexicanGardener 2012/01/24 11:24:23
  • Ian SatansM... 2012/02/18 08:02:03
  • Happy 2012/01/24 06:21:17
    Neither
    Happy
    meant evolution.
  • Bryn 2012/01/24 04:37:29
    Both
    Bryn
    +2
    I believe that God created everything and as time has gone by, humans, animals, plants, etc has 'evolved' to be more accustom more adaptable more resilient to it's/our surroundings. Humans I believe are taller, some animals have gotten smaller, some don't even exist because they couldn't 'evolve' to be more adapt to it's surroundings. Not that humans or animals evolved from some big bang theory, but that God created everything and gave us the ability to 'evolve' to be more adaptable to our surroundings.
  • Ian Bryn 2012/02/19 08:39:44
    Ian
    Who created this God,who done the whole Shabang
  • Bryn Ian 2012/02/20 01:49:19
    Bryn
    God by definition is the uncreated creator of the universe, so the question "Who created God?" is illogical


    1. Everything which has a beginning has a cause.
    2. The universe has a beginning.
    3. Therefore the universe has a cause.

    God, unlike the universe, had no beginning, so doesn't need a cause. In addition, Einstein's general relativity, which has much experimental support, shows that time is linked to matter and space. So time itself would have begun along with matter and space.


    Since God, by definition, is the creator of the whole universe, he is the creator of time. Therefore He is not limited by the time dimension He created, so has no beginning in time God is the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity (Isaiah 57:15). Therefore He doesn't have a cause.

    In contrast, there is good evidence that the universe had a beginning. This can be shown from the Laws of Thermodynamics, the most fundamental laws of the physical sciences.

    1st Law: The total amount of mass-energy in the universe is constant.
    2nd Law: The amount of energy available for work is running out, or entropy is increasing to a maximum.
    If the total amount of mass-energy is limited, and the amount of usable energy is decreasing, then the universe cannot have existed forever, otherwise it would already have exhauste...






    God by definition is the uncreated creator of the universe, so the question "Who created God?" is illogical


    1. Everything which has a beginning has a cause.
    2. The universe has a beginning.
    3. Therefore the universe has a cause.

    God, unlike the universe, had no beginning, so doesn't need a cause. In addition, Einstein's general relativity, which has much experimental support, shows that time is linked to matter and space. So time itself would have begun along with matter and space.


    Since God, by definition, is the creator of the whole universe, he is the creator of time. Therefore He is not limited by the time dimension He created, so has no beginning in time God is the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity (Isaiah 57:15). Therefore He doesn't have a cause.

    In contrast, there is good evidence that the universe had a beginning. This can be shown from the Laws of Thermodynamics, the most fundamental laws of the physical sciences.

    1st Law: The total amount of mass-energy in the universe is constant.
    2nd Law: The amount of energy available for work is running out, or entropy is increasing to a maximum.
    If the total amount of mass-energy is limited, and the amount of usable energy is decreasing, then the universe cannot have existed forever, otherwise it would already have exhausted all usable energy the heat death of the universe. For example, all radioactive atoms would have decayed, every part of the universe would be the same temperature, and no further work would be possible.

    So the obvious corollary is that the universe began a finite time ago with a lot of usable energy, and is now running down.

    Now, if one can accept that the universe had a beginning, but not that it needs a cause, it is self-evident that things that begin have a cause no-one really denies it in his heart. All science and history would collapse if this law of cause and effect were denied. So would all law enforcement, if the police didn't think they needed to find a cause for a stabbed body or a burgled house.

    Also, the universe cannot be self-caused nothing can create itself, because that would mean that it existed before it came into existence, which is a logical absurdity.
    ~Christian Answers
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  • Ian Bryn 2012/02/20 06:43:22
    Ian
    Ok i think that clearly you have your point, i have mine.I will not waste more time.Few things before i go the total amount of energy is not constant( this depend on which physics you apply) the energy running out does not prove that god exists,or prove that god does exist.
    Like your strength in your faith even though there is no god.
  • YO 2012/01/24 02:56:07
    Evolution
    YO
    +1
    IF God put us on earth, He had to start somewhere. The plant life, sea life, bacteria, the one-celled animals, the fish that walked on land, other animals that can live on land and water, and finally primates, and mankind. So far Evolution seems to be the most sensible, and logical explanation of our human, and animal/plant existence. UN-answered questions about evolution are put to god. E.G., HE works in strange ways as far as evolutionary oddities go. The more we learn, and know about evolution, the less odd the oddities become. It might be a matter of more time before we know, once and for all, if humans were simply just placed here, by god, OR if humans arrived here from a series of evolutionary and biological mutations and changes.
  • Catalana 2012/01/24 01:01:39
    Evolution
    Catalana
    How can creationism or both have so many votes., This is the unbelievable part of this question
  • ryan.noh1 2012/01/23 19:22:52
    Evolution
    ryan.noh1
    +1
    The more likely theory, though still yet a theory. Creationism is just so much WORSE a theory.
    I don't know why people, who must believe in a creator, can't see everything happening as the most incredible and epic process a God could undertake. A Master Crafting of sorts of a race becoming his image through Eons of hard learning. Why would a God take only 7 days of OUR time to make all he wanted?
  • Barfly ryan.noh1 2012/01/24 20:20:29
    Barfly
    +1
    There can be no evolution without creation coming first!!! Something cannot evolve from nothinG!
  • ryan.noh1 Barfly 2012/01/25 07:39:22
    ryan.noh1
    +1
    Have you ever been to the Natural History Museum in NYC? They have an orb from which they were able to produce single celled organisms from just from moisture, gas, and electrical energy. We only have theories as to how things got where they are now, but science itself is not one to make something up like "some really powerful guy said so" its a little too easy..
  • Barfly ryan.noh1 2012/01/25 19:06:38 (edited)
    Barfly
    I have been to the one in Los Angeles. I guess that orb also produced water, mountains, vegetables, grass, clouds, the sun, the moon, DNA, etc., etc., etc.,
  • ryan.noh1 Barfly 2012/02/02 19:48:13
    ryan.noh1
    +1
    There are plenty of scienctific fact on how the mountains and water and clouds are created, at least, that you can't doubt with silly fallacies.
  • Ian Barfly 2012/02/18 17:54:48
  • Brian ryan.noh1 2012/01/25 19:45:31
    Brian
    I would like to "clarify" your statement that single celled organisms that have been created in the lab. As far as I know we have created amino acids, the "building blocks" of life in the lab, and recent work has been done on the creation of "cells," but they have not actually combined the two into "living" organisms or "single celled organisms" as your post would implies.



    Scientist actually creating life in the lab has been a goal for a very long time and it would surely be global headline news that "everyone" would have heard about by now if it had been accomplished. It has not.



    Take care!
  • ryan.noh1 Brian 2012/02/02 20:00:44
    ryan.noh1
    +1
    You have me there, sorry, last I've been I must have been 15 (too long ago, I won't give my age <_< ) though it can go to show that basic elements can create more complex ones, which is part of the point. At which point you might say the "creator" simply created gases and energy first, as opposed to play-doh and a rib cage.
  • Brian ryan.noh1 2012/02/03 05:03:32
    Brian
    I knew exactly what you meant! Though we do not have all the answers a lot of the "pieces" or the puzzle ARE coming together!

    It's amazing the new discoveries they are finding almost daily! It's a very exciting (and frightening) time to be alive if you love science! Sadly for those who don't, or who are can't handle paradigm shifts in thought, it is a ONLY a very frightening time!
  • Ian ryan.noh1 2012/02/18 17:24:44
    Ian
    Forget it, you cant educate pork, you can show proof to the till the cows come home, they still will not take any notice.
  • cameron... Barfly 2012/01/25 22:07:01
    cameron pelster
    There is also the big bang theory, which would explain the earth created, etc. Some things like protista are single celled organisms and can be made from moisture, energy, heat, etc. If creation is real, dinosaurs could not have existed. The existence of dinosaurs is proven, creation is not. I believe in god. But don't you thing that somewhere out there galaxies, light years away there may be a simple or advanced form of life? Did god make them too?
  • Barfly cameron... 2012/01/25 23:30:44
    Barfly
    Big Bang no thanks, not sure about a theory that rocks and gases created intelligence! I've been waiting waiting for some more rocks and gases to form and create something new! There may be people somewhere else sure! If all this nonsense is true like big bang then why can't scientists duplicate it??
  • ryan.noh1 Barfly 2012/02/02 20:02:35
    ryan.noh1
    +1
    Why would you want scientists to recreate something like a big bang? (Although..erherm.. nuclear energy? ) And you are aware that these processes occurred over billions of years, not in anyone's single lifetime.
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