Where would you rather see your tax dollar spent
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Neither is NOT an option ....
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Artist 2011/01/21 14:32:34I can't decide but I would like to comment





















Taxes for war (although I simplify) are necessary and actually constitutional when you think about it. Our elected are to create and maintain a military force so they can protect the citizens from both foreign and domestice enemies. This has to be funded by the people.
Abortion (although I simplify) is lawful in this country and nobody has the right to tell another what they can or can't do with their own body. But the choice in having say over your own body is an individual choice and therefore, I think, unconstitutional that I should be forced to pay for their individualism in this very personal and private decision. No more than I should be forced to pay for somebody's facelift.
My question is where do you think the money is spent more wisely ... protection of our way of life as Americans or protection of someone's individual choice although legal to have a child or not and force someone else to pay for their right to that decision. In this scenario you either pay for the abortion or you pay for the health, clothing, food, and housing for the next 18 years or longer. This to me is a lose/lose situation for the taxpayer.
So where would you rather see your tax dollar spent?
Besides we would be better served with our troops and efforts concentrated here instead of 5,000 miles away. Secure our borders, inspect all shipped items and containers, etc...
Anyway my response ...
Our Constitution requires our leaders to protect us from domestic and foreign invasion. This sometimes requires going to war whether we like it or not. Our taxes pay towards "War" is how we pay for this protection.
Abortion is a choice that someone else made and I feel I should not have to pay for that choice in regard that there is no constitutional law saying that we are suppose to.
Besides, as we've been over before, you are NOT paying for another person's abortion if they choose to have one. Either they are or their insurance company is. I am not necessarily saying that the Federal government should pay for abortions, but that is no more or less significant an issue than asking whether the Federal government should pay for appendectomies.
Abortion is a choice that someone else made and I feel I should not have to pay for that choice in regard that there is no constitutional law saying that we are suppose to or have to. We do, the last time I checked; but I hear Obama is working hard to get rid of it, have individualism in the Nation. You as an individual make choices in your own life of which you are accountable.
In having our own health insurance as the majority (at least those who still have jobs) do, we do pay for another's abortion ... There should be an option for people to opt out of paying for abortions to help lower our premiums.
Those who want the "option" can pay a higher premium which can be scaled so to speak.
1. You want it there, "just in case" then you want "full coverage" you pay a higher premium.
2. You want it there, "just in case" but can't afford the higher premium then you pay a lower premium knowing that you will be responsible for the difference at time of appointment.
So - I want documented FACTS this time: How do you possibly justify the slanderous statement that "Obama is working hard to get rid of" individualism???? That is the most nonsensical thing I think I've ever heard you say. How is fighting FOR human rights working to get rid of individualism"? How is trying to keep people alive even though they're poor working to get rid of individualism? How is fighting against the corporate takeover of the American election process - which deprives YOU of the right to have your vote heard - working to get rid of individualism? You are smarter than most of the Right Wingers around here and you know that the President is not a socialist, not a communist, not planning a secret New World Order, not trying to impose Sharia Law on the United States and so forth.
FACTS this time. Not talking points...
So - I want documented FACTS this time: How do you possibly justify the slanderous statement that "Obama is working hard to get rid of" individualism???? That is the most nonsensical thing I think I've ever heard you say. How is fighting FOR human rights working to get rid of individualism"? How is trying to keep people alive even though they're poor working to get rid of individualism? How is fighting against the corporate takeover of the American election process - which deprives YOU of the right to have your vote heard - working to get rid of individualism? You are smarter than most of the Right Wingers around here and you know that the President is not a socialist, not a communist, not planning a secret New World Order, not trying to impose Sharia Law on the United States and so forth.
FACTS this time. Not talking points. FACTS.
And finally, your "opt out" suggestion is probably as close to outright fascism as I've ever heard you come. Let's take that one a step further. Let's say a group of people decide that they don't think that black people deserve to get heart transplants. Should they be allowed to "opt out" of their health insurance premium?
Do you REALLY want someone else to get to decide what YOUR health insurance covers and doesn't cover? You pay your premiums and you get the coverage that the policy provides. You have no right to tell the insurance company what coverage they should or should not provide to anyone but you.
I'm disappointed in you.
LOL .,. oh, oh just a thought and no doubt this will really tick you off ...
In agreeing with your statements that Obamacare does not cover illegals or abortions he has basically screwed over his re-election base ... because under current norms their medical is paid for through our tax dollars ... the only sect Obama has actually defended and stood up for is Islam ... the only group in this country that takes care of their own!. Do you see any hints of him embracing Sharia Law also?? How about not securing our borders ... how 'bout giving middle easterners in war torn areas carte blance to come here without background checks ...
Oh, sometimes I just crack myself up!! [giggle]
Standing up for freedom of religion is not "standing up for Islam". And NO ONE has shown any hints of "embracing Sharia Law", LEAST of all the President. And no one has given middle easterners in war torn areas carte blanche to come here without background checks, either. As for our borders, with deportations up and new entry by illegals down, the President has done MORE to secure our borders than his predecessors have.
I am going to assume that you are having a bad day or something, because if you are going to start down the "secret Muslim conspiracy" and "Obama is a Muslim" road then we're done. I will tolerate a great many things that I may not agree with because I believe that open debate and discussion of differing ideas is of benefit to all participants. But I will not tolerate racism and I will not tolerate slandering the President of the United States with outright racist lies. So choose VERY carefully your next response.
Freedom of religion is protected. However where our President on more than one occasion seems to have shown preference over one than the other, than I say he is biased and is circumventing or deliberately overlooking our Constitution and its meaning.
I did not accuse Obama of being anything as your last paragraph implies nor do I wish to pursue that avenue even in jest as it is not the reason why I wrote this blog. To pursue this, I would say you or others would be intentionally trying to hijack the direction of this thread of which I will be very angry if found to be true.
And since the Fourteenth Amendment is probably the single most progressive clause in the entire Constitution ("equal protection of the laws" is kind of a dictionary definition of progressivism) I fail to see where there is any distortion.
Once again I want you to provide PROOF. Show me ONE instance, just ONE, of the President showing favoritism to ANY one religious denomination over another. That means SPECIFIC EXAMPLES and VERIFIABLE SOURCES.
You made the false accusation that "the only sect Obama has actually defended and stood up for is Islam". You made the false statement that he embraces Sharia Law. You made the false accusation that not only is the President not defending our borders (which is a LIE) but that he is DELIBERATELY not defending our borders in order to encourage Muslim extremists to enter and destroy the country. And you made the completely false statement that the President is "giving middle easterners in war torn areas carte blance to come here without background checks."
So if I can count that's at least FIVE deliberate, malicious, slanderous, racist attacks ...
And since the Fourteenth Amendment is probably the single most progressive clause in the entire Constitution ("equal protection of the laws" is kind of a dictionary definition of progressivism) I fail to see where there is any distortion.
Once again I want you to provide PROOF. Show me ONE instance, just ONE, of the President showing favoritism to ANY one religious denomination over another. That means SPECIFIC EXAMPLES and VERIFIABLE SOURCES.
You made the false accusation that "the only sect Obama has actually defended and stood up for is Islam". You made the false statement that he embraces Sharia Law. You made the false accusation that not only is the President not defending our borders (which is a LIE) but that he is DELIBERATELY not defending our borders in order to encourage Muslim extremists to enter and destroy the country. And you made the completely false statement that the President is "giving middle easterners in war torn areas carte blance to come here without background checks."
So if I can count that's at least FIVE deliberate, malicious, slanderous, racist attacks on the President of the United States without even the slightest attempt to provide even shaky evidence to support any one of them.
As for the reason you wrote this blog, it was to assert the absurd, cruel and totally false contention that war and abortion are equivalent. What you wound up asking was whether people would rather fund mass killing or human rights.
Finally, I invite you to read back up through this thread. Which of us first mentioned Islam? Which of us first mentioned Sharia Law? Which of us first mentioned "middle easterners in war torn areas" (aka Palestinian Muslims)?
So WHO IS HIJACKING THIS THREAD?
Wouldn't you be more comfortable going out and lynching someone?