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Where in the Constitution does Congress have the power to force States or Individuals to purchase healthcare?

Conservative in California 2010/04/02 08:27:25
It's a very, very, very simple question that no liberal progressive can answer. Guess what? That means Obamacare is unconstitutional. Supreme Court is going to have a field day with invalidating this unlawful piece of legislation.
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  • Daring Blasphemer BN-0 2010/04/02 13:57:09
    Daring Blasphemer BN-0
    +28
    It is so encouraging that you guys have discovered the Constitution. After thirty years of economic destruction, eight of which were spent DESTROYING the Constitution, it is good to see you waking up.
    Now read it and study it, not from the point of view of your favorite radio commentator, but from those who have dedicated their lives to it's study.
    The lawsuits being brought by Attorneys General of various states are dropping like flies, not because they are bought, because the new law IS Constitutional.
    Why the right is mad about a bill that is a corporate reach around, FULL of Republican ideas, I can't figure out..... But the fact that both side are mad, is a good sign, IMO.

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  • iknowbest 2010/09/25 04:10:22
    iknowbest
    +2
    starwar; youve actually made the case on why this mandate is UNCONSTITUTIONAL! the ruling of US v. Butler is going to be the case to undo this whole thing. Becasue no where in the Constitution will you find "healthcare." Just like you will not find "Agriculture" as in the Butler decision. Deciding NOT to purchase a product (eg: healthcare) is not covered under the umbrella of commerce AND "compulsion" and "force" certainly does not constitute "regulation." If the Courts rule that I am off base then enjoy the ride downhill and Ill see you when we are rioting in the streets ala Greece and France!!!
  • rightside 2010/05/12 18:06:23
    rightside
    We keep thinking that we have the right of happiness. We have the right to the pursuit of happiness. That means we are free to go and do things we think will make us happy.
    The government is not responsible for our happiness.
    I know people that choose to buy other things than health insurance. I don't think its right, but that's their choice.
    If they get health bills, then they shouldn't get the government to bail them out.
    They should have a loan provided to them that they must make payments on.
    Illegals should be treated and removed from the country with a chip in them that beeps when they try to cross the border again.
  • Conserv... rightside 2010/05/12 18:07:55
    Conservative in California
    +1
    happiness = property.
  • rightside Conserv... 2010/05/12 18:09:11
    rightside
    +1
    Funny, I know that many rich people have lots of things and they are not happy.
    Hmmmm? Wonder why?
  • Conserv... rightside 2010/05/12 18:11:02
    Conservative in California
    +1
    it's pursuit of property that we have the right to...happiness is property...a God given right.
  • rightside Conserv... 2010/05/12 18:29:52 (edited)
    rightside
    So, what this means is that they really wanted us to be able to buy land, if we could afford it. Then they changed it to be more vague, and to be more than just land.


    Benjamin Franklin was in agreement with Thomas Jefferson in downplaying protection of "property" as a goal of government, replacing the idea with "happiness."[4] The United States Declaration of Independence, which was primarily written by Jefferson, was adopted by the Second Continental Congress on July 4, 1776. When Jefferson spoke of pursuing happiness, he had nothing vague or private in mind. He meant a public happiness which is measurable; which is, indeed, the test and justification of any government. But to understand why he considered the pursuit of that happiness an unalienable right, we must look to another aspect of Enlightenment thought - to the science of morality.
  • AllisonDalrymple 2010/05/11 00:03:08
    AllisonDalrymple
    +2
    government doesnt have the right to force us to pay. it is unconstitutional.
  • Conserv... Allison... 2010/05/12 18:00:11
    Conservative in California
    sure is!
  • concerned 2010/04/09 18:19:42
    concerned
    u should go really read the bill again ..
  • I yams what i yams 2010/04/04 17:38:48
    I yams what i yams
    +1
    As for the insane tyrants who forced this upon the American people... off with their heads!! as the kings of old would say....
  • BadDog 2010/04/04 00:55:03
    BadDog
    +1
    It doesn't say that all anyplace in there. Your right! But, it does say Congress can make new laws whenever they want too. That's thier job!!! And I guess they wanted to make a new law concerning a national healthcare plan for the USA.
  • Allison... BadDog 2010/05/11 00:01:36
    AllisonDalrymple
    +2
    wow... so you want the government to make a law that says that the government can force americans to buy things. (health care as an example)
  • BadDog Allison... 2010/05/11 10:20:44
    BadDog
    well, it forces us to pay out our hard-earned money in the form of taxes to the USA! That was never in the constitution.... My point is they can make all the laws they think they need, but they will be tested in the courts. (ie: Roe vs Wade)
  • ghostrider Allison... 2010/06/04 02:37:19
    ghostrider
    Then again, every state requires the owner of any motor vehicle to buy at least liability insurance.
  • Bella 2010/04/04 00:47:26
    Bella
    Where in the healthcare bill does it say we have to buy healthcare insurance?
  • Lana 2010/04/03 18:01:22
    Lana
    +4
    Now all we have to do is remind the SC just how plain the constitution is.It is clearly stated and all you have to do is read it. Try it sometime and you will be very surprised just how wrong you are. We learned the constitution in fourth grade. What is your excuse ?
  • BadDog Lana 2010/04/04 00:56:12
    BadDog
    +2
    They all skipped those early easy grades and went gun shopping. lol
  • triskaideka 2010/04/03 13:43:06
    triskaideka
    Point of Clarification: The federal government has the power according to the new bill which was passed by congress. According to the bill of rights (the first ten amendments), however, they do not. If anyone has any doubt about whether or not this bill, however, is against the constitution, I challenge them to read the actual words of the 10th Amendment! It is, indeed, unconstitutional, and states have the right to decide whether or not to enforce federally mandated healthcare insurance requirements. Individuals maintain the right to refuse to purchase healthcare, even if their state accepts the new bill, however they ALSO have the right to accept the consequences of not purchasing said healthcare insurance. Basically, as citizens, we are to abide by state and federal law. If you wish to live where this bill is not in place, either move to a state that is fighting it, or move to a country where they don't have this BS.
    Anyone who isn't realizing that this is government takeover is a moron. But just because the federal government is delegating more power to itself doesn't mean the states or people have to accept that. We all must fight for our rights, every generation. If we don't, our only choice left is to put up with it, or leave the country.
  • aneed2know 2010/04/03 06:09:45
    aneed2know
    +4
    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    No more needs to be said.
  • technotrucker 2010/04/03 03:17:12
    technotrucker
    +1
    You are confusing the original Constitution, with the one that the Corporation of the United States goes by. That is why they can seemingly do as they wish, since they regard the original as nothing but a piece of historic parchment.
    peace
  • Freeranger 2010/04/03 02:17:32
    Freeranger
    They don't.....Congress knows it. When enough states ban together and say no, then Congress will have to rethink the mandate.

    States Rights!
  • aneed2know Freeranger 2010/04/03 06:09:59
    aneed2know
    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
  • ctrlzma... Freeranger 2010/04/03 18:10:18
    ctrlzmankind
    Back in the days of the Civil War, you would have been pretty polular.
  • Freeranger ctrlzma... 2010/04/03 18:29:14
    Freeranger
    Two wholly different ideas. One was to preserve the dissolution of a country. The current one regards the preservation of the sovereignty of indivual states comprising that union.
  • k clark 2010/04/03 00:10:15
    k clark
    +1
    Plain and simple no ware does it say as usually nose up in the air towards America plain simple ware nose air america
  • aneed2know k clark 2010/04/03 06:10:07
    aneed2know
    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
  • Phyl *In God i Trust* 2010/04/02 23:17:34
    Phyl *In God i Trust*
    Arkansas was mad because we did not join in the lawsuit.
  • k clark Phyl *I... 2010/04/03 00:11:01 (edited)
    k clark
    +1
    I would be to but Arkansas is Billy Boys state
  • aneed2know k clark 2010/04/03 06:10:15
    aneed2know
    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
  • Payton2.0 2010/04/02 22:38:03
    Payton2.0
    +1
    That's the question. Obama seems to think that he can make the Constitution say what he wants it too, but it don't say that. If it did, why wouldn't the government dictate that every American must buy a house, car and life insurance? Of course if you can't buy it at a fair price in the free market Obama will gladly sell you your needs.
  • Conserv... Payton2.0 2010/04/02 22:38:55
    Conservative in California
    +1
    the US Constitution with its limited powers is the enemy to progressives who desire a totalitarian religion of the state.
  • aneed2know Payton2.0 2010/04/03 06:10:23
    aneed2know
    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
  • Payton2.0 aneed2know 2010/04/03 10:55:51
    Payton2.0
    Ok you know the preamble, but what amendment? It would most likely be found in the Bill of Rights, but it's not.
  • aneed2know Payton2.0 2010/04/04 06:22:59
    aneed2know
    What amendment is the right to privacy in?
  • Payton2.0 aneed2know 2010/04/04 11:59:19
    Payton2.0
    The 4th Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
  • aneed2know Payton2.0 2010/04/05 05:20:12
    aneed2know
    That still does not say right to privacy.
  • Payton2.0 aneed2know 2010/04/05 10:06:45
    Payton2.0
    That's as close as you're going to get. I thought the topic was about the government forcing a person to purchase something they don't want? If you're trying to show some type of example here it's failing miserably.
  • aneed2know Payton2.0 2010/04/05 10:18:32
    aneed2know
    No the point of the post is, " Is it constitutional"
  • Payton2.0 aneed2know 2010/04/05 15:08:59
    Payton2.0
    Free men make their own decisions and not have them forced upon them. -Abagail Adams-
    Barack Obama forces his decisions upon us while flipping off the Constitution.
  • aneed2know Payton2.0 2010/04/06 06:47:20
    aneed2know
    How so? Obama ran on healthcare reform and just because a few loud mouths decided to get out and be played by the healthcare insurance companies, does not mean they speak for America.

    In fact it is allowed for the federal government to regulate companies, your just confused because they have not done it for the last 10 years.
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