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Where do you stand on gay marriage/civil unions??!!

BlueRepublican 2012/05/16 17:31:21
Marriage is only 1 man + 1 woman; Civil Unions okay!!
Gay marriage is the same as Traditional Marriage!!
It's a State matter, FED govt STAY OUT!!!
I don't care about this, Blue talk about the Economy!!
None of the above
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Okay, i'm tired of hearing about this issue, so I will post once and put it to bed.
There's been so much back and forth on this that i'm dizzy.

Some conservatives say gays can get married with all the same rights but have to call it a civil unions.

Liberals say gays can get married and call it marriage otherwise it's a Fed civil rights issue.

Libertarians are just plain tired of hearing about the issue. They believe marriage is a contract between two individuals and can be handled at the state level. The Federal govt should stay out of it!!!

And of course there are those who simply do not care because it does not affect them personally and want to mind their own business.

Let them know America...


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  • El Jeffe 2012/06/04 21:09:46
    Gay marriage is the same as Traditional Marriage!!
    El Jeffe
    The whole argument in favor of marriage vs. civil union is eerily reminiscient of the old "seperate but equal" argument. Put simply, the state has no grounds on which to discriminate between heterosexual and homosexual marriage.
  • Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/06/01 02:39:08 (edited)
    Gay marriage is the same as Traditional Marriage!!
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    Nobody, including straight people, should have to ask the government permission to get married. And therefore, gays should not have to ask permission either.

    Gay marriage doesn't effect me, my family, or my friends in any way, shape, or form. The issue is ridiculous and is nothing more than a distraction for the masses of the crimes and financial pillaging the elite of this world are committing against the people of the USA every single day. But as with most other wedge issues, the American people (in general) are too freakin' ignorant to see what the hell is going on, so this kind of nonsensical crap matters to them.
  • sue 2012/05/25 16:14:47
    None of the above
    sue
    I think marriage should be private -- not part of state or federal purview. The states and the federal government should not treat us any differently if we are married than if we are not. We should be able to decide who is part of our own household and who is not, and that's really all the government needs to know.
  • Diane Spraggs Yates 2012/05/23 15:18:45
    None of the above
    Diane Spraggs Yates
    Marriage is 1 man and 1 woman !!!!!!
  • Guru_T_Firefly 2012/05/23 13:33:10
    None of the above
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +2
    I think gays should be allowed to marry if they so choose and I also think they should be able to call it marriage. Christianity doesn't own the word "marriage" and they didn't invent the concept.
  • Adam 2012/05/23 03:16:04
    None of the above
    Adam
    +1
    Here is the ideal. The state offers people the option to enter into legally binding contracts called, "Civil unions" Any 2 consenting adults can enter into this contract, and it grants them the set of rights and responsibilities we usually associate with marriage. Then, churches, communities and the like can do whatever ceremonies they want and call it whatever the hell they want.

    But if we must call what the federal government does in terms of these partnership based contracts, "Marriage", then we have to offer it to everyone. You can't support the views of one religion legally, while denying that to others. My church decided to marry gay couples back in the 90's. And I'm part of the UCC, which is NOT a small church. The idea that a few fundies can dictate there religious beliefs to us and get backed up by the government is insane. Get the government out of the churches. If a church wants to marry gay couples, or if they don't, let em.
  • Daring Blasphemer BN-0 2012/05/23 03:03:04
    It's a State matter, FED govt STAY OUT!!!
    Daring Blasphemer BN-0
    +2
    This is a simple matter of liberty for all. As a Libertarian I will not get tired of arguing for the liberties of all people. We must not presume to decide for others based on our narrow minds.
  • bob 2012/05/20 15:04:47
    Marriage is only 1 man + 1 woman; Civil Unions okay!!
    bob
    +1
    The Issue to me is not Gay marriage but the effort to force Churches to allow Gay Marriages, In the eyes of the Church it is a Sin. It is a crime punishable by death in the Islamic Faith and a Sin to Christians and Jews. There are already efforts being made in New York to Force Churches to Perform Gay Marriages that is what this is all about and that is why marriage has to be Kept between a man and a woman. Marriages performed outside religious formats have only been being preformed for the last 100+ years before that it was a Religious Ceremony going back to the time of the Pharos.
  • Steve 2012/05/19 20:29:00
    Gay marriage is the same as Traditional Marriage!!
    Steve
    +2
    What's important is equal legal rights. Call it civil unions or marriage, the legal terminology isn't important.

    But heterosexuals need to get over their demands for special treatment with marriage laws and the legal protections of marriage.
  • Vitalani 2012/05/19 19:35:16
    Gay marriage is the same as Traditional Marriage!!
    Vitalani
    +1
    *derp*
  • Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET 2012/05/19 19:13:11
    Gay marriage is the same as Traditional Marriage!!
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
  • Guru Casper BN-ZERO 2012/05/19 18:59:53
    Gay marriage is the same as Traditional Marriage!!
    Guru Casper BN-ZERO
    +1
    I have no problem
  • Sadisticon 2012/05/19 13:47:13
  • luvguins 2012/05/18 17:00:07
    Gay marriage is the same as Traditional Marriage!!
    luvguins
    +1
    The dictionary says marriage is a contract with another person so gender is not mentioned. As Texan Kinky Friedman said, gays have a right to be as miserable as straight people are married...lol. Churches do have the right to not marry gays, and yet not one radical religious freak has been able to tell me how gay marriage personally affects their own marriage.
  • BigFig#9 2012/05/18 16:53:41
    Gay marriage is the same as Traditional Marriage!!
    BigFig#9
    Couldn't pass up my favorite punch line ---'Gay marriage???? Haven't those people suffered enough!?!?' That said I'd actually support ending Marriage as a government sanctioned relationship - let your church decide that and let the government record civil unions of one, two or even more consenting adults....
  • Bilingual required sucks 2012/05/18 06:20:19 (edited)
    Gay marriage is the same as Traditional Marriage!!
    Bilingual required sucks
    There is no such thing as "traditional marriage" in secular state law. Tradition that is based on religious doctrine have no place in state or federal law. What the hell is a tradition anyway? Are they written in stone? Did they exist before the Universe came into existence? Times must change and old outdated so called traditions must be discarded. What is so difficult to understand? We cannot remain the same for ever. As a species we must evolve, or we will not survive.
  • Cap 2012/05/17 21:36:40
    It's a State matter, FED govt STAY OUT!!!
    Cap
    In my State - NY - the legislature recently amended the definition of marriage in State Law to include same-sex unions, operationally reversing a 2007 decision by NY's highest court which had defined marriage to include only heterosexual unions. I preferred to leave the definition of marriage untouched and establish a new civil institution, civil unions is a good a name as any, which, at least initially, would have been the same thing as marriage except it would be open to same-sex couples. I didn't get my way; NBFD. What would have appalled me was recognition of SSM as a constitutional right, State or federal, particularly the latter, as such a finding would have been an act of intellectual dishonesty that would have further eroded my already shaky belief in the USSC's ability to derive its legal reasoning from bases that aren't approved by the NYT OpEd Page.
  • Starman 2012/05/17 17:23:08
    Gay marriage is the same as Traditional Marriage!!
    Starman
    +2
    The real issue is that marriage in the 21st century is not the same as old fashioned traditional marriage. My wife and I are equal partners in our marriage. When you view marriage as a partnership of equals, you see that an partnership, based on love, between two people does not require one of them to be subservient, and it doesn't matter what their gender is.
  • Lanikai 2012/05/17 14:39:52
    Marriage is only 1 man + 1 woman; Civil Unions okay!!
    Lanikai
    +1
    I don't have a problem with legalized civil unions, which is basically a private contract between those individuals as to the emergency, end of life, and estate/will measures for their lives.

    Marriage, however, is ONLY a union between a man and a woman. Always has been and re-defining that meaning after 6000 years is somewhat stupid.

    Gays need to back off on this, as it harms ther cause. be content with civil unions.
  • JonDeniro 2012/05/17 14:27:44
    None of the above
    JonDeniro
    +2
    It is none of my business...nor the government's...how folks choose to live their lives.
  • D D 2012/05/17 08:40:09
    It's a State matter, FED govt STAY OUT!!!
    D D
  • Sadisticon D D 2012/05/19 13:49:51
    Sadisticon
    Good point! Fiction-hawking money launderers have no place in laws that pertain to the governance of sadisticon!
  • Matt Gray 2012/05/17 07:43:46
    Marriage is only 1 man + 1 woman; Civil Unions okay!!
    Matt Gray
    I support Gay Unions. I do not support the word Marriage becoming a blanket term. Marriage is between a man and a woman. However gays should be allowed to have unions just like everyone else.
  • MR. 2012/05/17 06:01:54
    None of the above
    MR.
    I "STAND" OVER IT, LIKE I'M AT A GRAVE SITE, "THIS SIN" IS,...THAT BAD!! (GOD FORGIVE US!)
  • Daniel 2012/05/17 05:52:40 (edited)
    None of the above
    Daniel
    +1
    ITS A NON ISSUE,, GIVE THEM THE SAME BENEFITS, RESPONSIBILITY AND RIGHTS OF DEATH BENEFITS . LEGALLY CALL IT CIVIL UNION! ITS SIMPLE !

    WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW ANY GROUP TO TEAR APART A TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE TO SATISFY THEIR GROUPS EMOTIONS.

    EXAMPLE OF THE CRAZINESS OF THE GAY MOVEMENT DEMANDS.

    ITS LIKE SAYING ALL BLACK PEOPLE, NOW HAVE TO BE CALLED WHITE PEOPLE

    ON THE US CENSES, BECAUSE WHITES HAVE BEEN CALLED AND ACCEPTED WHITE THROUGHOUT HISTORY, SO NOW ALL BLACKS HAVE TO BE CALLED WHITES !
    RIGHT ?

    OR IS IT, THAT NO MATTER WHAT COLOR YOUR SKIN IS YOU ARE ENTITLED TO THE SAME PRIVILEGES, AND RESPONSIBILITIES AS EVERY OTHER CITIZEN. SO WHY PASS A LAW THAT FORCES ALL BLACKS TO BE CALLED WHITE !


    DOES BEING GAY GIVE YOU SPECIAL PRIVILEGES? BECAUSE BLACKS CAN'T BE DEEMED WHITE BY ORDER OF LAW, NO MORE THEN YOU CAN CALL YOURSELF PRESIDENT BECAUSE YOU SOMEHOW THINK YOU'RE OWED IT!

    WHO YOU SLEEP WITH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUE LOVE OR COMMITMENT.

    FEDERAL LAW REQUIRES, NO DISCRIMINATION, NO MATTER WHAT COLOR/SEX/RACE

    RELIGION OR POLITICAL BELIEF.


    FEDERAL LAW SHOULD REQUIRE A CIVIL UNION TO BE EQUAL IN THE EYES OF THE LAW, TO BE EXACTLY EQUAL TO ANY HETEROSEXUAL MARRIAGE !

    COME ON AND LEAVE TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE ALONE... FOR MEN AND WOMEN.

    NO MATTER HOW MUCH I WOULD LIKE TO BE A BL...











    ITS A NON ISSUE,, GIVE THEM THE SAME BENEFITS, RESPONSIBILITY AND RIGHTS OF DEATH BENEFITS . LEGALLY CALL IT CIVIL UNION! ITS SIMPLE !

    WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW ANY GROUP TO TEAR APART A TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE TO SATISFY THEIR GROUPS EMOTIONS.

    EXAMPLE OF THE CRAZINESS OF THE GAY MOVEMENT DEMANDS.

    ITS LIKE SAYING ALL BLACK PEOPLE, NOW HAVE TO BE CALLED WHITE PEOPLE

    ON THE US CENSES, BECAUSE WHITES HAVE BEEN CALLED AND ACCEPTED WHITE THROUGHOUT HISTORY, SO NOW ALL BLACKS HAVE TO BE CALLED WHITES !
    RIGHT ?

    OR IS IT, THAT NO MATTER WHAT COLOR YOUR SKIN IS YOU ARE ENTITLED TO THE SAME PRIVILEGES, AND RESPONSIBILITIES AS EVERY OTHER CITIZEN. SO WHY PASS A LAW THAT FORCES ALL BLACKS TO BE CALLED WHITE !


    DOES BEING GAY GIVE YOU SPECIAL PRIVILEGES? BECAUSE BLACKS CAN'T BE DEEMED WHITE BY ORDER OF LAW, NO MORE THEN YOU CAN CALL YOURSELF PRESIDENT BECAUSE YOU SOMEHOW THINK YOU'RE OWED IT!

    WHO YOU SLEEP WITH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUE LOVE OR COMMITMENT.

    FEDERAL LAW REQUIRES, NO DISCRIMINATION, NO MATTER WHAT COLOR/SEX/RACE

    RELIGION OR POLITICAL BELIEF.


    FEDERAL LAW SHOULD REQUIRE A CIVIL UNION TO BE EQUAL IN THE EYES OF THE LAW, TO BE EXACTLY EQUAL TO ANY HETEROSEXUAL MARRIAGE !

    COME ON AND LEAVE TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE ALONE... FOR MEN AND WOMEN.

    NO MATTER HOW MUCH I WOULD LIKE TO BE A BLACK AFRICAN, I CAN'T BE. BUT UNDER THE EYES OF THE LAW, DO I HAVE RIGHT TO FORCE AFRICAN AMERICANS TO CALL ME BLACK !

    WHY THE HELL WOULD I WANT A FEDERAL LAW REQUIRING THE LATINS TO CALL ME LATIN WHEN IN FACT I'M MEXICAN? WHY SHOULD I FORCE THE LATINS TO CALL ME LATIN WHEN I'M NOT !

    IF A TRANS GENDERED M-F MARRIED A MALE, THEN ITS A MAN AND WOMEN MARRIAGE.

    IF A TRANS GENDERED F-M MARRIED A FEMALE THEN ITS A MAN AND WOMEN MARRIAGE

    IF A MAN MARRY S A MAN THEN ITS A CIVIL UNION = UNDER LAW TO MARRIAGE.

    IF A FEMALE MARRY S A FEMALE, THEN ITS A CIVIL UNION = UNDER LAW TO MARRIAGE.

    IS THAT SO FRIGGIN HARD ! GAY RAINBOW
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  • Sadisticon Daniel 2012/05/19 13:53:26
    Sadisticon
    see below:
  • *Mahogany Goddess 2012/05/17 04:27:23
    None of the above
    *Mahogany Goddess
    +8
    Traditional Marriage:

    bible polygamy bible polygamy bible incest bible incest
  • Archer ... *Mahoga... 2012/05/17 15:39:04
    Archer ~ The Limit Break of PHAET
    +1
    Don't forget Deity to Land = Isaiah 62:4-6 we find “No more shall men call you ‘Forsaken,’ or your land ‘Desolate,’ But you shall be called ‘My Delight,” and your land ‘Espoused.’ For the Lord delights in you, and makes your land his spouse. As a young man marries a virgin your Builder shall marry you; And as a bridegroom rejoices in his bride so shall your God rejoice in you.”

    Yup. Deity + Land = Marriage
  • TheMadChameleon 2012/05/17 04:26:55
    Gay marriage is the same as Traditional Marriage!!
    TheMadChameleon
    +5
    Maybe not the "same" because no two marriages are the same. However, the two ought to be treated the same legally. What churches do with it is their business. What other people think is their business. Don't like gay marriage, don't get one. Don't want a straight marriage, don't get one. If everyone would live and let live, and quit crying that the personal lives of other people are 'destroying the sanctity of X in my life' we would all be much better off.
  • Sadisticon TheMadC... 2012/05/19 13:54:16
    Sadisticon
    I so wholeheartedly agree!
  • Ferηαηdσ [Clinton2016] 2012/05/17 04:13:05
    Gay marriage is the same as Traditional Marriage!!
    Ferηαηdσ [Clinton2016]
    +5
    Love is love.
  • *Mahoga... Ferηαηd... 2012/05/17 04:34:17
    *Mahogany Goddess
    +2
    I wonder if people approve of incest, since the Bible finds that traditional as well. Hmmmm.
  • Ferηαηd... *Mahoga... 2012/05/17 06:28:08
    Ferηαηdσ [Clinton2016]
    +5
    I wonder that as well. It's the same type of people that used their bible to justify laws banning interracial marriage.
  • *Mahoga... Ferηαηd... 2012/05/17 06:35:33
  • sjalan 2012/05/17 03:39:58
    Gay marriage is the same as Traditional Marriage!!
    sjalan
    +3
    When you research the word "marriage" you will discover that the meaning of origin was "bring together as one"
  • Me 2012/05/17 03:29:34
    None of the above
    Me
    +1
    dont care not my business
  • wtw 2012/05/17 03:17:27
    Marriage is only 1 man + 1 woman; Civil Unions okay!!
    wtw
    +1
    All people should be able to designate a partner or responsible person as their rightful partner regardless if they are a brother, sister, or whatever!
  • Sadisticon wtw 2012/05/19 13:55:05
    Sadisticon
    I have no idea what that signifies, but all right!
  • MQ-American Values Again (AVA) 2012/05/17 03:13:18
    Marriage is only 1 man + 1 woman; Civil Unions okay!!
    MQ-American Values Again (AVA)
  • Sadisticon MQ-Amer... 2012/05/19 13:55:44
    Sadisticon
    until divorce and philandering deceit...

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