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Where did all the "Question Authority" people go?

Bitwise Operator September 11, 2009 03:23:03

When Bush was busy pushing his agenda they were everywhere. You couldn't sling a dead cat without hitting a code pinko, war protester, dissenter, or other angry discontent.

Now that we have Barack Obama it seems like protesting the war is something you are not supposed to do. They dare not ask why if the economic slump is over then why do we still need to spend a trillion dollars we don't really have. If Bush's decision to have troops in Iraq was so wrong then why hasn't Barry brought them home?

Where in the hell did the Question Authority people go?
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  • +2 raves Conservative in California September 11, 2009 06:14:38
    Conservative in California

    Real men and Women continue to question - even Obama.

    liberals never were concerned about what Bush was doing, otherwise they'd be going completely apeshit at the tyranny out of Washington these last few months. Liberals simply hated Bush. Nothing more. The silence of the liberals now is deafening and the proof that my argument is correct.
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    Spider Jerusalem September 19, 2009 00:42:08
    Spider Jerusalem

    Real men and Women continue to question - even Obama.

    9/12 you saw but a fraction of them in DC
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    Conservative in California September 11, 2009 06:14:38
    Conservative in California

    Real men and Women continue to question - even Obama.

    liberals never were concerned about what Bush was doing, otherwise they'd be going completely apeshit at the tyranny out of Washington these last few months. Liberals simply hated Bush. Nothing more. The silence of the liberals now is deafening and the proof that my argument is correct.
  • Bitwise... Conserv... September 14, 2009 19:33:03
    Bitwise Operator
    Absolutely agree.
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    NO NAME September 11, 2009 05:02:26
    NO NAME

    All of the above

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    fairiefang0 September 11, 2009 04:29:48
    fairiefang0

    Real men and Women continue to question - even Obama.

    Here's one!
  • johnny2bad September 11, 2009 03:51:24
    johnny2bad

    Real men and Women continue to question - even Obama.

    Were to busy battling the stupidity on the right.....
  • Bitwise... johnny2bad September 11, 2009 03:59:13
    Bitwise Operator
    So when "we're" questioning Obama that is stupidity then?
  • johnny2bad Bitwise... September 11, 2009 04:05:30
    johnny2bad
    Naw. When you're ranting about indoctrination, brownshirts and other paranoid delusions that's being stupid.
  • Bitwise... johnny2bad September 11, 2009 04:10:47
    Bitwise Operator
    So you're saying the government would never do anything to harm you.
  • johnny2bad Bitwise... September 11, 2009 04:13:02
    johnny2bad
    You talking about the last nine months or the last 233 years......
  • Bitwise... johnny2bad September 11, 2009 04:16:18
    Bitwise Operator
    Oh, I'd say as long at least as long as we've had entitlement politics.
  • johnny2bad Bitwise... September 11, 2009 04:24:51
    johnny2bad
    Well we've always had entitlements for the wealthy.....
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    Bitwise... johnny2bad September 11, 2009 04:27:52 (edited)
    Bitwise Operator
    I work for the wealthy - more becuase they're ethe only ones who can afford to pay me a salary and I'm too proud to be a leach and work for the government.
  • johnny2bad Bitwise... September 11, 2009 04:31:50
    johnny2bad
    Oh yea, when was the last time a CEO gave you a cut of his bonus.....also, according to you that must make every teacher, fireman, policeman, and soilder a leech. You better stand back and think for little bit before you give your next response....
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    Bitwise... johnny2bad September 11, 2009 04:38:42 (edited)
    Bitwise Operator
    I contracted with the company for the pay I receive every two weeks. Compensation that others receive is their bsuiness. Now I'm not a fan of their outrageous salaries but I get paid what I contract for. Envy of others should not be a deciding factor in any political debate (or lawmaking).

    If anyone is stealing from me it is the increasing number of Federal Government bureaucrats that seem to think nothing of taxing me more, or of the devaluation of my saved dollars by printing money out of thin air.

    Big Government that feels empowered to play Robin Hood is a far worse enemey than a few fatcats making big money.
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    Conserv... Bitwise... September 11, 2009 06:16:33
    Conservative in California
    Great points you make. Liberals based their policies on punishing those they are envious of in the free market.
  • johnny2bad Bitwise... September 11, 2009 13:39:28
    johnny2bad
    Boy you have got it so wrong. Corporations, exploit the working class. CEO's that receive huge salaries usually do so because they either outsourced or slashed jobs. It's not that those companies didn't turn profits, it's because they didn't turn enough profits to satisfy shareholder greed, and ultimately the person who ends up paying the cost is your fellow citizens. Now all business runs on borrowed money. The economy runs on borrowed money not from rich people digging into their pockets and trickling their wealth down. If you knew anything about this economic meltdown you would know that the first indicator was the lack of Paper Money available a year ago. Paper money is the billions of dollars that is made available daily for lending. That same lending that supplies the economy to pay everything from the expansion of businesses to the paying of salaries to employees and yes contractors. The failure of brokerage banks is what caused the lack of paper money and that's why the government needed the TARP funds. You like to use the word envy, but you ought to be thinking of loyalty. Loyalty to the same working classes that built the country and keep the economy running. Now you still haven't addressed why you think civil servants and government employees are such leeches. Reall...
    Boy you have got it so wrong. Corporations, exploit the working class. CEO's that receive huge salaries usually do so because they either outsourced or slashed jobs. It's not that those companies didn't turn profits, it's because they didn't turn enough profits to satisfy shareholder greed, and ultimately the person who ends up paying the cost is your fellow citizens. Now all business runs on borrowed money. The economy runs on borrowed money not from rich people digging into their pockets and trickling their wealth down. If you knew anything about this economic meltdown you would know that the first indicator was the lack of Paper Money available a year ago. Paper money is the billions of dollars that is made available daily for lending. That same lending that supplies the economy to pay everything from the expansion of businesses to the paying of salaries to employees and yes contractors. The failure of brokerage banks is what caused the lack of paper money and that's why the government needed the TARP funds. You like to use the word envy, but you ought to be thinking of loyalty. Loyalty to the same working classes that built the country and keep the economy running. Now you still haven't addressed why you think civil servants and government employees are such leeches. Really those are the people that keep the infrastructure running. If you want to see a country with minimal government influence in the lives of it's citizens and little if no income tax then just look south at Mexico. Now I'm not opposed to the spirit of entrepreneurship and if capitalism has one attribute that makes it shine then that would be it's one saving quality. But what is wrong is the amount of power and influence that the rich have over the rest of the system. That is the fatal flaw in our system.
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  • Bitwise... johnny2bad September 14, 2009 19:44:57 (edited)
    Bitwise Operator
    Paper money is what allows the hyper rich banking moguls to bilk the economy and individuals of their savings and retirements.

    The fact is that poor people do not hire anyone and neither is every poor person the result of someone else's greed. A stroll through the local soup kitchen (where I donate time) is proof enough of that.

    What you fail to admit is that all of your Democrat generosity is actually stealing from me and my children. The impossibly high taxes required to solve all the problems you perceive in the world come from people like me.

    It steals my hard earned money - that's my money - not the government's money.

    It denies me the right to apply charity where and when I feel it is best applied and turns it over to bureaucrats who use the money to buy votes and payoff friends. The poor actually get less than if you'd left the money in the hands of the generous american people who earn it.

    People who built this country and make it great are the people whose jobs are lost daily do to paper money manipluated by internation banks, foreign nations (like china), and yes business ceos that outsource because the previous two make it cheaper to do so. Hard working americans don't want Democrat handouts - they want to work and keep what they work. The smart ones are t...

    Paper money is what allows the hyper rich banking moguls to bilk the economy and individuals of their savings and retirements.

    The fact is that poor people do not hire anyone and neither is every poor person the result of someone else's greed. A stroll through the local soup kitchen (where I donate time) is proof enough of that.

    What you fail to admit is that all of your Democrat generosity is actually stealing from me and my children. The impossibly high taxes required to solve all the problems you perceive in the world come from people like me.

    It steals my hard earned money - that's my money - not the government's money.

    It denies me the right to apply charity where and when I feel it is best applied and turns it over to bureaucrats who use the money to buy votes and payoff friends. The poor actually get less than if you'd left the money in the hands of the generous american people who earn it.

    People who built this country and make it great are the people whose jobs are lost daily do to paper money manipluated by internation banks, foreign nations (like china), and yes business ceos that outsource because the previous two make it cheaper to do so. Hard working americans don't want Democrat handouts - they want to work and keep what they work. The smart ones are tired of being made stooges to the Democrat Party for petty handouts while the Democrat politicos treat themselves to CEO lifestyles and benefits packages.

    On the other hand - Republican devotees still wait for a smaller government, lower taxes, candidate who can keep his promises and stop harrassing the rest of the world with senseless wars.
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  • johnny2bad Bitwise... September 14, 2009 20:18:29
    johnny2bad
    Man you are just about clueless. Stealing from you and your children? I pay taxes also nimrod.

    "Paper money is what allows the hyper rich banking moguls to bilk the economy and individuals of their savings and retirements."

    That's about as baseless and ridiculous a comment as I've ever heard. The money you get paid with for contract work is borrowed, and I'll bet you've borrowed more than once yourself to stay in business.
    And every poor person is the result of indivudual and or coorparate greed. It's coorporations that ship jobs overseas not unions.

    "Hard working americans don't want Democrat handouts - they want to work and keep what they work."

    That may be the only partially true statement you've made yet,...people don't want handouts they want jobs, but tell me now how many jobs were outsourced to China during the Bush years? Republicans don't care about working people....
  • Bitwise... johnny2bad September 14, 2009 20:29:12 (edited)
    Bitwise Operator
    To begin with I am not a Republican and I feel the same way about Bush I & II as I do about Carter and Obama.

    Secondly, you understand nothing about foreign manipulation of currency values, the Federal Reserve and the US economy.

    I've never borrowed money in my business (unless you want to consider an occasional credit card purchase paid to zero balance every month) as "borrowing money".

    "every poor person is the result of individual or corporate greed" How about requiring a little personal responsibility from people? I've met more than my share of poor people who are not poor because a corporation deprived them - whatta joke this comment is - it so naive it's incredible.

    Try not to be just like the Republicans who blame everything on "the other party". It's both mainstream parties that have destroyed this nation - think for yourself for a change.

    If the only plea you can make for the common good is more Unions and Democrats then you're like hardcore Republicans - part of the problem.
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    johnny2bad Bitwise... September 15, 2009 02:26:05
    johnny2bad
    Hey man. People that lose jobs due to outsourcing are responsible citizens, and a lot of them worked for twenty to thirty years as good employess. It's always conservatives that want beat up on people when thier down. That is such a selfish attitude. No wonder the country is in the shit. You know someday you might lose your livelyhood also. I hope you don't feel bad when people call you a leech.
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    Bitwise... johnny2bad September 15, 2009 03:06:29 (edited)
    Bitwise Operator
    You're putting your interpretation into my mouth and then debating that interpretation - a straw man argument.

    True, there are good people who lose their jobs due to outsourcing as I have several times in my life - and I have four kids to feed, clothe and educate. In fact, I have been fired only one less time than I have been hired.

    What I said is that not every poor person is the victim of corporate greed - there are those who are poor due to their own human nature. They drink, do drugs, manage their money unwisely. I know a doctor who is now destitue because he had a gambling weakness and then became a drunk afterward.

    To say that every poor person is the result of corporate (or other individuals greed) is to deny that people have free will to make their own choices and the responsibility to make good choices. You denied fundamental human nature.

    Like I said, I often help at the local soup kitchen because I believe in relieving the suffering of others. I also pay for 8 children in foreign countries to eat, go to school, and get regular medical treatment. But these things are MY NOTION of charity and we're not supposed to legislate our notions of charity and morality upon others - remember?

    My personal belief is that I will answer to God above for all my failures to ...



    You're putting your interpretation into my mouth and then debating that interpretation - a straw man argument.

    True, there are good people who lose their jobs due to outsourcing as I have several times in my life - and I have four kids to feed, clothe and educate. In fact, I have been fired only one less time than I have been hired.

    What I said is that not every poor person is the victim of corporate greed - there are those who are poor due to their own human nature. They drink, do drugs, manage their money unwisely. I know a doctor who is now destitue because he had a gambling weakness and then became a drunk afterward.

    To say that every poor person is the result of corporate (or other individuals greed) is to deny that people have free will to make their own choices and the responsibility to make good choices. You denied fundamental human nature.

    Like I said, I often help at the local soup kitchen because I believe in relieving the suffering of others. I also pay for 8 children in foreign countries to eat, go to school, and get regular medical treatment. But these things are MY NOTION of charity and we're not supposed to legislate our notions of charity and morality upon others - remember?

    My personal belief is that I will answer to God above for all my failures to help my suffering brothers and sisters in need - so I do. Not everyone believes as I do.

    Liberal minded people never want anyone legislating morality they themselves do not agree with but they soon forget that principle when their own morality compels them to help their fellow oppressed man. Then they want to legislate their morality on everyone via new laws and taxation because they believe that is fair and just.

    There's something wrong with that picture.
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    johnny2bad Bitwise... September 15, 2009 03:18:34
    johnny2bad
    The way I see it Christians spend a lot of resources trying legislate their moral convictions on the rest of the nation. Just like the Church of LDS did when they helped finance Proposition #8 in California last year. So really both sides can point fingers at one another over this ..Huh...You know I'm a life long liberal and I've only been unemployed like two months over the last thirty-five years....So trust me I'm a taxpayer and I don't have a problem in my government helping my fellow cititzens.
  • Bitwise... johnny2bad September 15, 2009 03:24:21 (edited)
    Bitwise Operator
    Part of the government's original job is protecting people like me from all the well intentioned people who want to tax me so they can have a government that helps everyone. Instead we have government that willingly tramples my rights to keep what I earn in favor of people who want to help others at everyones expense.

    My level of charity far exceeds the national average - it certainly exceeds that of most members of congress including the president. It would be wrong to force you to give to charitable organizations just because I think them worthy causes.

    The same thing applies to liberal democrats. Forcing me (via taxation) to pay for their pet programs is also wrong.
  • johnny2bad Bitwise... September 15, 2009 11:14:52
    johnny2bad
    Well you are indeed a charitable person. But, do you think that should make you exempt from taxes?
  • Bitwise... johnny2bad September 15, 2009 21:18:25
    Bitwise Operator
    Absolutely not. The American people should be exempt from EXCESSIVE taxation - which is simply a form of organized theft. I'm in the 30% tax bracket and I am by no means a wealthy person.

    There is absolutely no cause for politicians to rob citizens this way - we get so little for it - other than bloated politicians perhaps and an ever increasing corrupt government.
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    johnny2bad Bitwise... September 17, 2009 15:22:13
    johnny2bad
    Good point! Please do take care...
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    bobofloblaws September 11, 2009 03:44:06
    bobofloblaws

    Real men and Women continue to question - even Obama.

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    kahless September 11, 2009 03:42:21
    kahless

    Obama Almighty is not to be questioned - ever.

    They have turned into what they most despised...their parents...
  • Bitwise... kahless September 11, 2009 03:48:24
    Bitwise Operator
    Do you think they even made it that far?
  • kahless Bitwise... September 11, 2009 03:53:30
    kahless
    they have become a product of their enviroment..
  • Bitwise Operator September 11, 2009 03:25:41
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