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When will conservatives realize there is no conservative plank in the Republican party?

Reichstolz 2012/06/24 21:05:24
Never, they will continue to spend like democrats.
Once there is no nation left to pillage, they might grasp conservatism.
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As I listen to the political ramblings of those on the left characterizing republican ideas as conservative, I am left to wonder, when did the progressives become the experts on what is conservative or not.

Just a few examples
The dreaded Paul Ryan budget.

When you look at the CBO scoring it is nothing but Obama light. It accumulates 10 Trillion in new debt over 10 years. Obama's "plan", since he has yet to produce a viable budget, accumulates 14 Trillion in new debt over the 10 year period. -What is conservative about that?

Health Care
The guy running for the republican ticket threw the free market approach out the window in the state he was governing. Obama is using this bill as nothing more than a means to control every aspect of your life, and republicans say "there are parts of the bill we will keep."- What is conservative about that?

Social Security
Obama sees it as the end all be all for controlling the elderly who are dependent on government. The republican party wants to nibble at its edges, even though they admit it is antithetical to an American free market approach.- What is conservative about that?

For you progressives out there who feel the Tea Party Republicans or the establishment Republicans represent conservatism, you need to understand you don't define conservatism.

Here are the planks of every conservative movement in our nation.
Government is most effective when it does the least.
Government creates nothing of value, parts of it are a necessary evil that one needs to keep a civil society.
Government has no constitutional authority to confiscate from one for the sole purpose of giving to another.
Government cannot be charitable or compassionate, simply because for it to help one it must hurt another.
The concepts that founded our nation only work for a religiously based moral society. The farther you allow society to deviate from that founding the harder it is for free people to remain free.

If you progressives would understand the history and founding of our nation, you might be dangerous. Since you are mentally incapable of grasping any conservative concept, I would politely ask you to stop classifying a republican approach as a conservative approach, because the two couldn't be more at odds, as the republican party is currently constituted.
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  • Wyzard 2012/06/25 14:23:55
    Never, they will continue to spend like democrats.
    Wyzard
    +1
    democrats spend 10 times the amount
  • Reichstolz Wyzard 2012/06/25 14:26:59
    Reichstolz
    Actually no, when you look at all presidents over the last 30 years there is very little difference in spending levels, regardless of party.
  • Wyzard Reichstolz 2012/06/25 14:38:09
    Wyzard
    um....wrong....obama has spent more money than all the presidents combined...do some research.
  • Reichstolz Wyzard 2012/06/25 14:40:27
    Reichstolz
    Obama is spending at 25% GDP. Bush spent at 21% of GDP. If Romney adopts the Ryan budget, he will be spending at 22% of GDP. Um....you might want to educate yourself. Obama has accumulated more debt than others, but as far as spending he isn't that far out of the norm.
  • Wyzard Reichstolz 2012/06/25 14:46:57
    Wyzard
    5 trillion just with obama....way more than all the presidents combined...please dont tell obama what comes after a trillion!
  • Reichstolz Wyzard 2012/06/25 22:29:58
    Reichstolz
    5 trillion in new debt you are correct, but as far as spending is concerned he is not far off the standard 20% that has become the norm. It won't matter we will no longer be a safe haven for investment by 2014 anyway.
  • Wyzard Reichstolz 2012/06/26 13:39:36
    Wyzard
    http://cowboybyte.com/9323/st...



    This is just an example
  • Reichstolz Wyzard 2012/06/26 13:42:34
    Reichstolz
    Yes and Bush sent billions to Africa to combat a self limiting disease.
  • Wyzard Reichstolz 2012/06/26 19:24:59
    Wyzard
    You libs always have to bring Bush in it. Actually it was the Democrat congress that sent the money to Africa. It was millions not billions.
  • Reichstolz Wyzard 2012/06/27 02:48:46
    Reichstolz
    Funny I am the farthest thing from a lib you will ever talk to. The issue with republicans is they are not conservative. By the way over the 8 years it was billions. Conservatives don't spend more than they take in, Bush was no conservative, him and Obama share a lot when it comes to ignoring the constitution and spending.
  • zbacku 2012/06/25 14:20:22
    Once there is no nation left to pillage, they might grasp conservatism.
    zbacku
    +1
    Once again a Ron Paul Rant is made moot by not allowing an option to disagree.

    That's why Ron Paul will always lose in the grand scheme of Politics.
  • Reichstolz zbacku 2012/06/25 14:26:16
    Reichstolz
    Ron Paul made himself moot by not possessing the ability to lead.
  • Reichstolz 2012/06/24 21:07:51
    Never, they will continue to spend like democrats.
    Reichstolz
    There is no conservative voice in the Republican party, there has not been in all my 50 years.
  • Wyzard Reichstolz 2012/06/26 13:46:26
    Wyzard
    reagan was not conservative? I believe you are wrong.
  • Reichstolz Wyzard 2012/06/26 13:54:23
    Reichstolz
    He spent like a democrat. Talking conservatively means nothing, actions are what matters.

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