When public school teachers call in sick, should they pay for their substitute teacher?

tiotom77 2011/03/02 13:44:36
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I'm a substitute teacher.
I get paid about 1/3 of what a full time teacher gets paid.
I get paid by the day.
Teachers get full pay when I substitute for them.
Is that fair?
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  • jlmackey 2011/09/18 23:11:08
    People are disillusioned by the term "Substitute" Teacher. A Substitute Teacher is a teacher. They are only replacing that teacher for a certain period of time (hence the name "substitute"). Some "Subs" may be non-degreed. That only refers to education. They perform exactly the same duties and have the same responsibilities as the teacher they are replacing. There should only be a slight difference in pay for the non-degreed teachers. For the "Subs" who are degreed and certified, they should make the same amount as the regular classroom teacher.
  • Robin B 2011/03/11 01:36:58
    Robin B
    What a stupid question!
  • tiotom77 Robin B 2011/03/12 23:47:42
    The only "stupid" question.. is the one that doesn't get asked.
  • Robin B tiotom77 2011/03/13 17:44:25
    Robin B
    I don't think that applies here.
  • tiotom77 2011/03/07 15:20:34
    The deal is...
    We pay more for our children's education when the teacher isn't there..
    Than when they are there!
  • KoAm 2011/03/03 05:25:51
    You should get the teacher's pay, plus your pay, and (because you're a sub) even hazardous duty pay!!!
  • iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~ 2011/03/02 15:52:22
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    Sick says are a standard part of most pay packages - substitute pay should be full, but that's another issue.
  • DFM302 iamthem... 2011/03/02 17:32:18
    When a substitute does what the teacher does, then they should get the same pay.
  • tiotom77 iamthem... 2011/03/07 15:23:26
    If we pay the teacher full pay and the substitute full pay (for one day)
    Then we are paying double to educate our kids that one day! (and the teacher isn't there)
  • iamthem... tiotom77 2011/03/07 15:30:51
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    So? Why shouldn't both people get paid for doing the same job?

    Arguably - don't we want a good qualified person as a substitute? If we only pay them half, is that going to attract that type of substitute?

    Offer education at a discount, and...well...you get what you pay for. ;-)
  • Robin B iamthem... 2011/03/13 17:45:40
    Robin B
    Not all subs are certified teachers.
  • iamthem... Robin B 2011/03/13 18:57:02
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    That's something that could be objectively used as a reason for the pay difference.
  • Gloria 2011/03/02 14:21:21
    I never had to pay for the saleries of others when I call in sick. What is this? Russia?
  • tiotom77 Gloria 2011/03/07 15:18:29
    Did you ever have someone work your shift?..
    Did your boss pay you and the person who took your place?
    For your boss.. That's not good business.
  • Gloria tiotom77 2011/03/07 16:49:16
    No. Everything stacks up until I get back.
  • tiotom77 Gloria 2011/03/10 12:30:07
    That doesn't happen in public schools.
  • Gloria tiotom77 2011/03/10 16:59:45
    When it comes down to paying the salaries/wages of who does the work by the person who calls in sick then basically no one had paid sick days. This isn't the old Soviet Union. I don't want a country like that. If you do good for you. I still do not want a country like that. I am sticking with that no matter who says what.
  • tiotom77 Gloria 2011/03/12 14:52:14
    Getting paid for no work.. a good solution?
    And if a teacher calls in sick but isn't sick..
    That's called "malingering"..
    In the military you can lose your rank for malingering.
  • Gloria tiotom77 2011/03/12 15:15:55
    I stand by my last post.

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