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What's More Important: Freedom or Safety?

AdriHead 2012/07/20 18:32:35
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With the latest shooting tragedy in Colorado, gun control is undoubtedly on everyone's mind. I know it's not as black and white as "freedom vs. safety" but people in the "pro-gun" camp seem to cite freedom, liberty and the 2nd amendment while talking about their right to carry guns. And as for the "anti-gun" camp, many cite the safety and well-being of the general public, as criminals and people with mental disorders will not have such easy access to weapons that kill. What do you think is more important: freedom or safety?

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  • \V/ The Ele... 2012/07/23 00:05:09
    \V/
    +1
    Right, it has to do with taking away rights. Same deal.
  • The Ele... \V/ 2012/07/23 00:11:55
    The Electrician
    Every President has signed it. Do you know what it is ? National Defense Authorization Act. What the Phuck does that have to do with taking away guns ?
  • \V/ The Ele... 2012/07/23 00:50:29
  • V~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/22 19:00:27
    Freedom
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +4
    Why not have both freedom AND safety?

    In the cities with the strictest gun control, there is neither freedom nor safety.

    Bad people ALREADY carry guns. They are not the least bit concerned about gun laws. The only question is whether or not victims are allowed to shoot back. I vote YES.
  • Horace Nick 2012/07/22 18:35:54
    Freedom
    Horace Nick
    +1
    i think Freedom is first, but it's really how it's implemented. freedom implemented
  • johnqpu... Horace ... 2012/08/02 07:06:50
    johnqpublic
    There is no "implementing" of freedom!!! You either have it or you DON'T!!!And the way freedom was won and is preserved is by having the means to defend it. If by bloodshed then so be it!! Which are you willing to give up? Your freedom or your safety? Please, I await your reply sir.
  • Andy 2012/07/22 18:22:44
    Freedom
    Andy
    +1
    As Patrick Henry said so eloquently, " Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased with the bonds of slavery? Almighty God forbid! I KNOW NOT WHAT COURSE OTHERS MAY TAKE, BUT AS FOR ME, GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH! "

    Our beloved nation lived by these words for nearly 225 years, but of late we seem to have forgotten they are part of our national heritage. I believe, and I hope that we may
    once again recall them as we go to the polls in November, for if we do, I am sure the Almighty God of Patrick Henry's words will once more rescue this nation from the political and moral trauma of these last four years. Let us always remember this darkest era of America's existence, so that neither we nor any later generation will never again relive these times.
  • Andy Andy 2012/07/22 18:47:49
    Andy
    +1
    In my previous response I had misread the specifics of the question; i.e., I read it as a generalized question, not one specifically referring to the tragedy in that Colorado theater. My bad.
    One thing I would point out, though, is this ; if no law abiding citizen were allowed to carry a gun, what effect would that have on criminals? The answer is that it would only make them bolder, knowing they were in no danger themselves.
    Let's work to ban all possession of any weapon(s)....by criminals.
    Until then.....................
  • The Ele... Andy 2012/07/23 00:04:49
    The Electrician
    +1
    I carry a gun 24/7, my Conservative friends call me "paranoid."
  • johnqpu... The Ele... 2012/08/02 06:41:41
    johnqpublic
    +1
    That's very interesting..... That Cons would think you paranoid for carrying all the time. I'd like to know more if you care to indulge me.
  • Kid Neon 2012/07/22 18:11:07
    Freedom
    Kid Neon
    +1
    with freedom comes the ever impending threat of people using their freedom against you. i believe in the right to bare arms but at the same time wish no one had any.
  • NumptyNuts Kid Neon 2012/07/22 20:55:59
    NumptyNuts
    I agree Kid Neon. What a great world it would be if there were no arms and bombs and nuclear weapons and the constant threat of violence. We only have ourselves to blame. It's all about power and wealth by extortion and violence. I reckon we're gonna be extinct shortly. It's so sad.
  • Kid Neon NumptyNuts 2012/07/23 14:27:05
    Kid Neon
    the liberal wants guns to just simply be regulated to the use of only law enforcement and military personnel. yet the conservative in me loves to shoot off guns and doesn't want that restricted.
  • ElChorizon© 2012/07/22 18:08:41
    Freedom
    ElChorizon©
    +4
    Both! So let's get Obama TFO!
  • harley oldman 2012/07/22 18:06:46
    Freedom
    harley oldman
    +3
    FREEDOM......If you don`t have Freedom you don`t DESERVE the other....!
  • Phoenix 2012/07/22 17:50:43
    Freedom
    Phoenix
    If only things were that simple.
    TOTAL FREEDOM = Anarchy
    TOTAL SAFETY = Police State (depending on what you mean by safety)

    I don't want either of those but I'd prefer to live on the freedom side a little and cope with the little more danger.
  • Burnjuan 2012/07/22 17:43:37
    Freedom
    Burnjuan
    Slaves are kept very safe.
  • ThomasRetterbush 2012/07/22 17:39:48 (edited)
    Freedom
    ThomasRetterbush
    +3
    Your gun rights are out the window, if Obama, Hillary and the United Nations have their way! Especially now, after the Colorado Massacre, its just the kind of ammunition (or should I say, Publicity) they’ve been hoping for. It wouldn’t surprise me if they were secretly glad the Batman Madman killed those poor people!

    If you care about our right to defend ourselves, come join the in-depth discussion on Facebook, at http://www.facebook.com/Consp...

    anti gun control
  • 4570GOVT ThomasR... 2012/07/22 23:50:48
    4570GOVT
    The United Nations' "Arms Trade Treaty" Conference is in full swing in New York City.

    Anti-gun international bureaucrats are already bragging that this conference will craft "the most important initiative ever regarding arms regulation . . ."

    In fact, after keeping the details of their so-called "Small Arms Treaty" quiet for three years, the gun-grabbers are now coming clean with EXACTLY what they want . . .

    Full-scale GLOBAL gun registration followed by confiscation, especially in the U.S.

    To make matters worse, Hillary Clinton has already given this anti-gun nightmare the Obama administration's full blessing.
  • The Ele... ThomasR... 2012/07/23 00:07:05
    The Electrician
    I carry a gun 24/7, if I were in that theater, what would I have done ?
  • mr echo 2012/07/22 17:32:03
    Freedom
    mr echo
    +2
    Society has rules you follow rules or you get out
    Use your logic and fight rules that are not good
    You don't need guns military will protect you and arm you at the time of need
    And if you scared of a military you and your guns not gonna stop them if they want to kill you ,wich they are not going to do cause American government is awesome
  • Revolution 2012 2012/07/22 17:27:49
    Freedom
    Revolution 2012
    +1
    Freedom is a stepping stone to personal safety, America was founded on that principle.
  • johnqpu... Revolut... 2012/08/02 07:00:34
    johnqpublic
    Well that was the principle It, America, became possible because people who were tired of being oppressed and being ruled by tyrants. Those people decided they would TAKE UP ARMS and risk they're lives to gain their FREEDOM and LIBERTY!!! Guns allowed them to BACK UP those PRINCIPALS !!!!!
  • nonnonsenseguy 2012/07/22 17:22:47
    Freedom
    nonnonsenseguy
    +1
    The punishment for the Colorado nutjob should be very swift and very severe. An example must be made out of such people.
  • Bob 2012/07/22 17:21:20
    Freedom
    Bob
    +1
    Gun control is not on my mind. Humans are crazy and gun control isn't going to stop that.
  • smilinbobs 2012/07/22 17:12:44
    Freedom
    smilinbobs
    +1
    Let's look at our government's ability to keep anything from someone who wants to get it!!! cocaine,Meth,heroine, ect. these things are all banned Yet any criminal or crazy person can get them!!! The only people that don't have these banned items are law abiding citizens. That is exactly what would happen with guns. I don't want to live in that world
  • nneoma 2012/07/22 17:05:37
    Freedom
    nneoma
    there is no safety in this world
  • Mr. Smith 2012/07/22 17:02:13
    Freedom
    Mr. Smith
    Freedom IS safety!
  • King Anti-Christ 666 2012/07/22 16:56:34
    Freedom
    King Anti-Christ 666
    blood is freedoms stain , firearms and weapons help to keep that freedom
  • none 2012/07/22 16:35:29
    Freedom
    none
    If we were free to exercise our Second Amendment rights allowing legal qualified Americans to be armed this wouldn't have happened, someone could have shot Holmes before he killed so many innocent people.
  • mr kalada 2012/07/22 16:19:35
    Freedom
    mr kalada
    in a state that outlwas guns...only outlaws have guns...

    how could you make it difficult to own a gun, when some of em are as or even more hotter than a hottest lady.
  • ScoutLdr 2012/07/22 16:05:04
    Freedom
    ScoutLdr
    The suspected shooter James Eagan could have killed many more people if he had used improvised explosive devices (IED's). Like the ones he"allegedly" rigged in his apartment. If guns weren't available, do you really think he wouldn't have found another way to do this?
  • Woody 2012/07/22 15:37:49
    Freedom
    Woody
  • bob h. Woody 2012/07/22 16:42:40
    bob h.
    Flash: William Burroughs shot his wife in the head.
  • Woody bob h. 2012/07/22 17:13:39
    Woody
    +1
    He was drunk, she was high, he missed the apple on her head...
  • bob h. Woody 2012/07/23 19:52:28
    bob h.
    Exactly.
  • susan 2012/07/22 15:37:37
    Freedom
    susan
    +1
    The two are not mutually exclusive. True freedom protects a safe environment. The lack of freedom leads to tyranny and to less safety and allows corrupt government to bully and destroy at will.
  • Wolf 2012/07/22 15:34:26
    Freedom
    Wolf
    +3
    Without Freedom there is nothing else...Safety is a relative thing in the real World...
  • johnqpu... Wolf 2012/08/02 06:49:54
    johnqpublic
    So keep safe, GET A GUN!!! And a dog!!
  • carl 2012/07/22 15:09:05 (edited)

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