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What Zimmerman did can help Racist Gun Laws end..

Manuel 2012/06/11 01:17:46
I think all the gun laws are stupid and racist...they don't allow concealed weapons in inner cities were over overwhelmingly blacks and Hispanics are the majority. From what I can see after reading from all the conservative posts ...their view adds up to... guns should only be kept illegal in these inner cities... but kept legal were ever they live..

But in truth...why are there gun laws in America when that clearly goes against the U.S. Constitution? There should be absolutely no gun laws or paper work to fill out on owning one in this Country...Anybody in this country should have the right to buy any kind of gun they want...We should not have laws for guns to be registered...that's all stupid.

.Poor people in inner ghetto cities are the ones that need guns the most to protect themselves from people like Zimmerman and crooked cops...and criminals... and even from White and black racist people and even from some religious groups...and if you go to jail for a felony and do your time you should have the right to own a gun when you come out...

Our government should be handing out free guns and bullets...to anyone that wants or thinks they need one...Just think if Martin had a gun that night...this tragic event would have never happened...

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  • Andy Fletcher 2012/06/11 03:04:20
    Andy Fletcher
    +11
    How about you provide some links to these laws you say were designed to specifically keep guns out of the hands of "Poor people in inner ghetto cities". You go to the trouble of doing that and I will do the research that will show you that whatever law you link was introduced and put in to law by Progressives. Once again you are showing you have no clue as to what a true conservative is. For your information we would love to see all law abiding citizens in the inner city armed and willing to use their weapons against lawbreakers. Save tax dollars on housing the criminals in prison.

    I already know you don't comprehend what you read, but give it a try and take my challenge. Show these racist discriminatory gun laws that were put in place by conservatives. I want links to the laws, not some left wing blog that says this law is this or this happened then like all the other sources you provide. Actual laws.

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  • ruthann... Manuel 2012/07/07 23:43:06
    ruthannhausman
    Tell you what, you continue with your deck of race cards and allow your misguided impressions of people to give you the excuse to sit back and be a crybaby and see how that stands you in good stead toward accomplishing anything in your lifetime. And then you can stand in the middle of the abyss and cry, "I was meant to be great, to do great things, but those racists held me down and wouldn't let me do what I wanted to do." Yeah, that sounds just about right.

    I do not belittle people. Quite the contrary, I have made very close friendships with people whose lives are far, far different from what mine has been. And I still love every one of them, despite their lack of polish. That's the beauty of America, Manuel, don't you get it?

    Stop looking at all strangers as enemies, my friend. I am not your enemy. I have no interest whatsoever in beating you down. I wish you well, in fact. And I am known as a commonsense woman, so think about it. Why would I wish you well? You do well and it bodes well for my country. Simple concept, I agree, but the truth nonetheless.

    What makes me feel good is for people to have intelligent discourse and swap ideas and plans and solutions to the problems that face my beloved country today. And in those rare instances where no compromise is able ...



    Tell you what, you continue with your deck of race cards and allow your misguided impressions of people to give you the excuse to sit back and be a crybaby and see how that stands you in good stead toward accomplishing anything in your lifetime. And then you can stand in the middle of the abyss and cry, "I was meant to be great, to do great things, but those racists held me down and wouldn't let me do what I wanted to do." Yeah, that sounds just about right.

    I do not belittle people. Quite the contrary, I have made very close friendships with people whose lives are far, far different from what mine has been. And I still love every one of them, despite their lack of polish. That's the beauty of America, Manuel, don't you get it?

    Stop looking at all strangers as enemies, my friend. I am not your enemy. I have no interest whatsoever in beating you down. I wish you well, in fact. And I am known as a commonsense woman, so think about it. Why would I wish you well? You do well and it bodes well for my country. Simple concept, I agree, but the truth nonetheless.

    What makes me feel good is for people to have intelligent discourse and swap ideas and plans and solutions to the problems that face my beloved country today. And in those rare instances where no compromise is able to be reached, at least to look each other "in the eye," so to speak, and agree to disagree. I strongly believe in "live and let live," Manuel. You like to play tennis? I hate tennis. But I'd never tell you you're an idiot to like tennis. I'd say, Hey, Manuel, have a nice game today.

    Try changing your shoes and walking a different path, kiddo. Life deals us all so many trials and tribulations, I would like to be able to turn to you and ask for your moral support on occasion and offer some in return when you're having bad times. Don't waste the few years we have on this earth hating people or labeling people who haven't done you any harm.

    I'm signing off now. You have a good weekend. And I meant that.
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  • Manuel ruthann... 2012/07/08 00:22:19
    Manuel
    I know you got it all wrong about me...I have a great life and did some really great things. Because some one was there to help me and expected nothing in return... But to you feeding poor by taking trouble kids into the city with me to handout sandwiches to street people does a lot of good, because they get to see if they don't change,that could be them when they grow up..and teaching kids from poor families guitar for free and even giving out free guitars to kids that I taught that got good is probably some worthless cause to you.

    Because I like to teach kids the best thing to do in this world is to help some one that really needs your help...that's a liberal view...that's an Obama view....

    the conservative views are get everything you can from people to make money, your number one so look out for yourself, do unto others before they do it to you, take what you can get from the Gov because they are stealing from you anyway. And anybody that stands for blacks is playing the race card..

    ....when I try to explain the truth with races ...boom...all that comes to play. I can match things you said to those views...but what's the use?...you don't understand what I pointed outanyway...you just took it as me being a racist who has poor grammer...Well I can't convince you of certain t...

    I know you got it all wrong about me...I have a great life and did some really great things. Because some one was there to help me and expected nothing in return... But to you feeding poor by taking trouble kids into the city with me to handout sandwiches to street people does a lot of good, because they get to see if they don't change,that could be them when they grow up..and teaching kids from poor families guitar for free and even giving out free guitars to kids that I taught that got good is probably some worthless cause to you.

    Because I like to teach kids the best thing to do in this world is to help some one that really needs your help...that's a liberal view...that's an Obama view....

    the conservative views are get everything you can from people to make money, your number one so look out for yourself, do unto others before they do it to you, take what you can get from the Gov because they are stealing from you anyway. And anybody that stands for blacks is playing the race card..

    ....when I try to explain the truth with races ...boom...all that comes to play. I can match things you said to those views...but what's the use?...you don't understand what I pointed outanyway...you just took it as me being a racist who has poor grammer...Well I can't convince you of certain things...so I guess why try?...

    you just wanter see it your way? Fine with me...go head... I have my little corner in this world to run...and it doesn't involve me belittling others. I got my job of love to do...and I am not gonna let you take that from me...thanks for the hard time...sorry it didn't work out...
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  • ruthann... Manuel 2012/07/11 13:22:19
    ruthannhausman
    Oh, Manuel, Manuel, Manuel, I thought we got all this done. I have lost the thread on this question.

    Number one, I don't know what you think I think about you, but you're wrong if it's anything at all besides your rush to judgment on the racist issue. Beyond that, I know nothing about you and would be really dumb to sit in judgment of whatever your life is like. That's just common sense, my friend.

    But in this particular comment you mention teaching and helping kids. You think I'm going to sit here and say something condemning about that? You're nuts, my boy, totally nuts! That is the greatest thing we as individuals can do in this lifetime is to teach by example. That is how I learned a high moral compass -- and I do mean very, very high indeed -- and that from my father, who taught by example.

    Now you said that I've said you're a racist because of poor grammar or some such thing, right? I never called YOU a racist, Manuel, I took issue with the fact that you were calling ME a racist. Lumping me into some huge group of lunatics.

    And, again, I am going to chastise you big time for saying that I have belittled you. I have made not a single remark about your grammar -- you did that yourself. But, guess what, big boy. If you are ashamed of your English then you know...









    Oh, Manuel, Manuel, Manuel, I thought we got all this done. I have lost the thread on this question.

    Number one, I don't know what you think I think about you, but you're wrong if it's anything at all besides your rush to judgment on the racist issue. Beyond that, I know nothing about you and would be really dumb to sit in judgment of whatever your life is like. That's just common sense, my friend.

    But in this particular comment you mention teaching and helping kids. You think I'm going to sit here and say something condemning about that? You're nuts, my boy, totally nuts! That is the greatest thing we as individuals can do in this lifetime is to teach by example. That is how I learned a high moral compass -- and I do mean very, very high indeed -- and that from my father, who taught by example.

    Now you said that I've said you're a racist because of poor grammar or some such thing, right? I never called YOU a racist, Manuel, I took issue with the fact that you were calling ME a racist. Lumping me into some huge group of lunatics.

    And, again, I am going to chastise you big time for saying that I have belittled you. I have made not a single remark about your grammar -- you did that yourself. But, guess what, big boy. If you are ashamed of your English then you know what you are free to do, right? You can find some sort of schooling or tutoring and fix that once and for all. But that is only if YOU want to. I don't have any problem with how you write, Manuel. And I would never, ever say a thing about it. I understood what you said, that's all that counts. Period.

    And I think you already know this, Manuel, but you shout it out in defiance. I am going to state it as fact and defiance has nothing to do with it. And that is there is only one person on Earth you need to please. And then there is only one other you need to please, and we all know who He is, right? Beyond that, if you feel you are doing good things with your life? Then you are on the right road, kiddo, and who am I to divert your paths.

    I am more than happy to give you a hard time, Manuel. But my giving a hard time to you was done also in love, not in hatred or any kind of diminutive feelings toward you, honest. You evidently are out doing good things for those less privileged than you and are evidently filling a void in those people's lives. That is a good thing. I don't need to tell you that.

    I only want to tell you to NOT pass on broad-brushed concepts of hatred. Please. Discuss your differences with people in an intelligent, commonsense, non-emotional fashion. And then you will be able to get your point across. When you call people names, block anything out that they wish to say to you because you think you already know what they're going to say and you don't want to hear it, then you are precluding any possibility of establishing a good, solid ground for compromise.

    Reading what little you have written towards the end of this question-and-answer segment, Manuel, it appears to me you have what it takes to be a good teacher and a good friend. Please don't allow the hotheads of this world to infect you and make you lose sight of your powers for good.

    Have a great life, Manuel. I mean that sincerely.
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  • Manuel ruthann... 2012/07/12 04:55:37
    Manuel
    what ever you say....
  • Murph 65 ruthann... 2012/07/07 23:45:21
    Murph 65
    Check your SH mail.
  • Manuel Oaces_b... 2012/06/22 18:48:04
    Manuel
    I think all the gun laws are stupid and racist...they don't allow concealed weapons in inner cities were over overwhelmingly blacks and Hispanics are the majority. From what I can see after reading from all the conservative posts ...their view adds up to... guns should only be kept illegal in these inner cities... but kept legal were ever they live..

    If you can't understand this...then you can't comprehend...lol
  • Oaces_b... Manuel 2012/06/22 19:07:35
  • Manuel Oaces_b... 2012/06/22 19:21:06
    Manuel
    go ahead and try to hide...lol...dumb ass....Thanks I rest my case...
    laugh
  • Oaces_b... Manuel 2012/06/22 19:20:02
  • Manuel Oaces_b... 2012/06/22 23:48:07
    Manuel
    how's about you get your racist ass out of my ancestral country...

    laugh
  • Oaces_b... Manuel 2012/06/23 00:56:44
  • Manuel Oaces_b... 2012/06/23 03:08:08
    Manuel
    blocked you? are you some kind of crapservative racist clown?...your still here talking with me with your stupid B.S. good grief!...now I have to laugh again... laugh
  • Manuel Andy Fl... 2012/06/22 19:07:01
    Manuel
    If you are not a racist then help me lobby for these cities to get rid of their stupid gun laws....lets get rid of all gun laws because, those laws are unconstitutional...now surely you would agree me me on this....?
  • Manuel Oaces_b... 2012/06/22 19:03:19
    Manuel
    guns should not have any restrictions...if they are legal to be on some one as a concealed weapon in one place... then that right should be legal all over America... And all gun laws should be banned.

    But it's not....The majority white areas in America are free to carry concealed weapons...you can check the guns laws like I did to see this...The majority of black and Hispanic inner cities areas in America has a lot more gun restrictions and cannot have a legal conceal gun on them in their inner cities. So what good is it for blacks and Hispanics who live in high crime areas to have a legal gun permit and a firearm if they can't take it out side of their home with them for protection?....
  • Manuel Andy Fl... 2012/06/11 18:00:33
    Manuel
    first you want an answer from me...but then you go and answer it your self...how bogus is that?...typical right wing take on asking a question...But for starters deal with this answer...

    Even if you have a permit for a gun in the inner city...you cannot take it out side of your home and walk around in the city and surrounding suburbs with it concealed on your body...what good is that?...being that most crime is done on inner city streets...that is the law from the Nixon days...and you should stop being lazy...The gun laws were changed back then to disarm the Black Panthers by a mostly white conservative run Government.....Kennedy disarmed the KKK back then...who were outright killing American blacks and never serving time for murder...But Nixon and even before he became president along with J. Hoover was getting the gun laws rewritten to disarm the Black Panthers, who never killed any innocent white people and were not a racist group like the one today that has absolutely nothing to do with the old school Black Panther Party.

    But they had to change the law back because the Supreme court deemed it unconstitutional...so the Nixon administration rewrote it to become the present day laws we have today for all inner cities...

    In conclusion...The majority population are b lack and ...

    first you want an answer from me...but then you go and answer it your self...how bogus is that?...typical right wing take on asking a question...But for starters deal with this answer...

    Even if you have a permit for a gun in the inner city...you cannot take it out side of your home and walk around in the city and surrounding suburbs with it concealed on your body...what good is that?...being that most crime is done on inner city streets...that is the law from the Nixon days...and you should stop being lazy...The gun laws were changed back then to disarm the Black Panthers by a mostly white conservative run Government.....Kennedy disarmed the KKK back then...who were outright killing American blacks and never serving time for murder...But Nixon and even before he became president along with J. Hoover was getting the gun laws rewritten to disarm the Black Panthers, who never killed any innocent white people and were not a racist group like the one today that has absolutely nothing to do with the old school Black Panther Party.

    But they had to change the law back because the Supreme court deemed it unconstitutional...so the Nixon administration rewrote it to become the present day laws we have today for all inner cities...

    In conclusion...The majority population are b lack and Hispanic who live in the inner cities and surrounding suburbs were crime is very high and even if have all the necessary paper work and all there t's crossed and i's dotted to own a gun in the inner city...then they should have the right to walk around with it concealed just like Zimmerman did...or any other folks that do have that right in mostly white populated suburb and city communities..

    Until that inner city with it's surrounding suburbs gets the same equal rights on gun laws for the population in those areas...it 's racist...
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  • Andy Fl... Manuel 2012/06/11 18:29:29
    Andy Fletcher
    +6
    Show me an actual law or STFU. Quit showing the world you don't know how to read and comprehend English. How am I being lazy you twit? Because I refuse to do the hours of research looking for laws that YOU, NOT I, claim exist? Stop spouting rhetoric and someone else's talking points and show me the freaking laws. It's up to you to support your moronic rants, not me. I didn't ask you what city, I asked you for ACTUAL LAWS. If you knew how to read you would know I tried to help you with what I know will be HOURS of fruitless searching by at least giving you a hint as to where you might start looking, FOR THE ACTUAL LAWS that YOU claim to exist.
  • Manuel Andy Fl... 2012/06/11 18:35:00
    Manuel
    lets make it easy....do you favor gun laws or find them unconstitutional?
  • Andy Fl... Manuel 2012/06/11 18:48:21
    Andy Fletcher
    +7
    I have no problem with registration and background checks. Law abiding citizens will have no problem passing a background check. Same with concealed carry laws and even open carry laws.
    Let's make it easy...back up the claims you are making with proof.
  • Manuel Andy Fl... 2012/06/13 05:47:22 (edited)
  • Andy Fl... Manuel 2012/06/13 06:18:17
  • Manuel Andy Fl... 2012/06/13 06:31:27
    Manuel
    if a criminal does his time and comes out of prison ...he or she should have their full rights installed as free citizens ... and the right to bear arms....
    otherwise the chaos I see is guns will be out of the hands of Hispanics and blacks being this country is designed to keep then back and wind up in prisons...then it's open season on these races.....no...it either all or none....
  • Red Branch Manuel 2012/06/13 02:46:32
    Red Branch
    +5
    Originally, the US Constitution restricted the Federal Govt.

    Example:
    The First Amendment prohibited the Federal Govt from establishing a church, but did not prevent the states from doing so. In 1788, when the Constitution went into effect, 7 states had tax supported churches and to hold office in that state you had to attend that church.

    Any adult US citizen who has not been convicted of a felony and is mentally sound should have the right to own a firearm.
  • Manuel Red Branch 2012/06/13 05:49:03
  • Red Branch Manuel 2012/06/14 03:24:38
    Red Branch
    +5
    I see no sense in allowing minors, non citizens, former convicts, mentally ill, own fire arms.
    But otherwise, I agree you should be able to buy without the BS restrictions.
  • Manuel Red Branch 2012/06/22 19:26:11 (edited)
    Manuel
    former convicts have a right to firearms if they served their time...minors in Texas have rights to firearms...they have a place like Chucky Cheese where kids can play with real guns...it's like Chucky holding an M16 instead of a guitar..Do you go along with that kind of place?. The only thing I can agree with you on is non citizens shouldn't have a gun if only they are here illegally...
  • Builder Manuel 2012/06/20 17:52:52
    Builder
    +1
    No Manuel, conservatitive republican don't used the race card. Apparently only we independents and Dems can be accursed of that. So if we use the race card then they use bigotry to get their point across! I'm sure Andy and Oaces has another word for it! I would love to hear it!
  • Manuel Builder 2012/06/22 19:28:04
    Manuel
    Their word is Repubigotrcan.
  • Oaces_b... Manuel 2012/06/22 19:22:21
  • Manuel Oaces_b... 2012/06/22 23:51:44
  • Builder Andy Fl... 2012/06/20 17:33:21
    Builder
    +2
    In Mass. young hispanic and Black youth are constantly stopped by the cops. However, to their defense I road the trolly a few weeks back and a hispanic kid leaned over and his gun fell onto the floor. Most people on the trolly seem to take it in strive but I was a bit taken back. They do however have gun laws in Boston ever since that Assistant DA was killed by a gang member!
  • Jeff Smith 2012/06/11 03:03:09
    Jeff Smith
    +4
    I don't know but I bet this guy would agree with everything you just posted

    CManson
  • Manuel Jeff Smith 2012/06/11 18:06:13
    Manuel
    +1
    he was one of the top conservative advisers back in the 60's...like most conservatives hated MLK...so did he...
  • Andy Fl... Manuel 2012/06/11 22:18:58
    Andy Fletcher
    +4
    You do realize do you not, that Martin was killed in 1968? That during the time he was active on a national scale, LBJ, a Democrat and liberal, was in the White House? And now you want to claim that Charles Manson was a top conservative adviser?

    I have to ask. Where DID you learn your history. Your teachers should be taken out and shot. You are three years older than me. I know you lived through those times just as I did. How you can interpret or recall this stuff like you do is way beyond me. I thought I did a lot of drugs back then. I KNOW I did. I think YOU got so stoned you missed about 30 years of what went on in this nation.
  • Manuel Andy Fl... 2012/06/12 00:24:14
    Manuel
    +1
    LBJ, a Democrat Dixiecrat and hated Liberals...but he had to sign the civil rights act which he hated that Kennedy had already set in motion......and therefore didn't seek reelection...

    Charles Manson hated blacks....just like the Dixie-carts and most white conservatives did...back then...and obvious today.... I never got high....or stone...I was a good kid and now a good man...
  • Andy Fl... Manuel 2012/06/12 03:31:52
  • Manuel Andy Fl... 2012/06/12 04:17:34
  • Andy Fl... Manuel 2012/06/12 07:48:54
  • Manuel Andy Fl... 2012/06/12 21:10:58
    Manuel
    +1
    so it now looks`like my history isn't so bad...and I am not totally wrong about LBJ...

    LBJ didn't hate blacks per-say...but he felt they were not intelligent people...who didn't belong in politics or big important jobs..he was fine with blacks cooking for him ...cleaning house, driving his limo, opening doors for him...as jobs in the world, he seen blacks as Sanitation workers, labors, grave diggers, farm workers, car washers,you get the point?...not as bank managers or stock brokers, or lawyers or politicians, etc, and definitely not President of the United States...

    And it wasn't LBJ that rammed it all through...Congress back then like today still had to vote on it...and the Liberal and moderate side of both party's that voted on civil rights out voted all the conservative sides of both parties that were against it....that's how the west was won...well, you know what I mean by my little west joke ;)...
  • Builder Andy Fl... 2012/06/20 18:00:56
    Builder
    +2
    Gee we can agree on something I see! It wouldn't have gotten done without LBJ!
  • Red Branch Manuel 2012/06/13 02:50:41
    Red Branch
    +2
    Hoover was Hoover. Hoover hated Communists and surveilled anyone that may have been a Commie or had Commie links.
    Yes, he did wiretap MLK. He also wiretapped President Kennedy and Attorney General Robert Kennedy. Yes, he felt that had Commie links.

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