How about you provide some links to these laws you say were designed to specifically keep guns out of the hands of "Poor people in inner ghetto cities". You go to the trouble of doing that and I will do the research that will show you that whatever law you link was introduced and put in to law by Progressives. Once again you are showing you have no clue as to what a true conservative is. For your information we would love to see all law abiding citizens in the inner city armed and willing to use their weapons against lawbreakers. Save tax dollars on housing the criminals in prison.
I already know you don't comprehend what you read, but give it a try and take my challenge. Show these racist discriminatory gun laws that were put in place by conservatives. I want links to the laws, not some left wing blog that says this law is this or this happened then like all the other sources you provide. Actual laws.
What Zimmerman did can help Racist Gun Laws end..
Manuel
2012/06/11 01:17:46
I think all the gun laws are stupid and racist...they don't allow concealed weapons in inner cities were over overwhelmingly blacks and Hispanics are the majority. From what I can see after reading from all the conservative posts ...their view adds up to... guns should only be kept illegal in these inner cities... but kept legal were ever they live..
But in truth...why are there gun laws in America when that clearly goes against the U.S. Constitution? There should be absolutely no gun laws or paper work to fill out on owning one in this Country...Anybody in this country should have the right to buy any kind of gun they want...We should not have laws for guns to be registered...that's all stupid.
.Poor people in inner ghetto cities are the ones that need guns the most to protect themselves from people like Zimmerman and crooked cops...and criminals... and even from White and black racist people and even from some religious groups...and if you go to jail for a felony and do your time you should have the right to own a gun when you come out...
Our government should be handing out free guns and bullets...to anyone that wants or thinks they need one...Just think if Martin had a gun that night...this tragic event would have never happened...
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But in truth...why are there gun laws in America when that clearly goes against the U.S. Constitution? There should be absolutely no gun laws or paper work to fill out on owning one in this Country...Anybody in this country should have the right to buy any kind of gun they want...We should not have laws for guns to be registered...that's all stupid.
.Poor people in inner ghetto cities are the ones that need guns the most to protect themselves from people like Zimmerman and crooked cops...and criminals... and even from White and black racist people and even from some religious groups...and if you go to jail for a felony and do your time you should have the right to own a gun when you come out...
Our government should be handing out free guns and bullets...to anyone that wants or thinks they need one...Just think if Martin had a gun that night...this tragic event would have never happened...
Any opinions?
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Andy Fletcher 2012/06/11 03:04:20
More were enacted to protect KKK raiders from their victims.
The vast majority of gun control laws are targeted at keeping minorities especially african americans from having guns.
The truly bizarre thing about these laws is they are being pushed through by people who are supposed to be the ones most eager to protect minorities. (Liberals, Progressives, Black Civil Rights Leaders, etc.)
It makes no sense at all.
Hell there was a case in Florida in the early 1900's where the Florida Supreme Court overturned a conviction for carrying a concealed handgun because the defendant was White, and "the law was never intended to apply to White People."
Even fairly modern laws like the Import Ban on "Saturday Night Specials" was designed to keep cheap handguns off the market.
Who did this law affect?
The Poor who couldn't afford the more expensive guns. Many of whom were minorities living in urban areas.
There are too many "Sky is falling, blood will flood the streets" idiots with connections in the Government.
Not quite understanding what you mean here...
They did it when Shall Issue Concealed carry was passed.
They did it when Utah and Colorado Colleges started allowing students to carry.
When Guns were allowed in Bars.
When they were allowed in Churches.
Etc.
But in every case their predictions were proven false.
But to them every new law that doesn't ban guns is the end of the world.
So they do their Chicken Little act and rush out to scream to anyone that will listen how this new rule will destroy the world.
But ending all gun laws would be a good thing in my book...if it was that way...that might have even saved Trayvon's life...and countless others...
Crime in Bars has actually dropped since the law changed.
I never said idiots don't shoot people.
But their claims are always, "Arguments over parking spaces will turn in to shootouts if people can carry guns! Hundreds of people will die if this new law is passed!"
Then when that doesn't happen they hide until new law is on the way and then that law will cause hundreds to die...
Crime in Bars has actually dropped since the law changed.
Then that a lone is` a good reason to ban all gun laws from our society.
There is no connection with reality in his immediate area.
How stupid is that since ZImmerman lived in a middle (maybe even more upperclass area protecting himself from thugs that have been constantly robbing homes in that area. OMG!! i have never seen such an epic failed blog on SH in all my days on here!!! LMAO!!!
one, there is no proof of constant robberies, just Zimmerman's` word on it...and if Trayvon had a gun...he would have been able to protect him self from Zimmerman...
But as you noted, in inner cities there are overwhelmingly a number of people -- criminals, crooked cops, Blacks, Hispanics, or Caucasion (in Seattle, the street bums are all white) but with a different set of concerns and issues; within inner cities making guns more available will arm the bandits, too; they are more likely to pull out and use it than the passive citizen just trying to get to the grocery store and back. I believe in registration not only because of background checks, but also so a mass foreign force can't invade without notice. Without gun laws and registration, it'd be like the wild west again...every man/woman/child for themselves; worse, it would become tribalism like Somolia.
Having a pass-out-bullets policy wouldn't have prevented Zimmerman, it would have simply speeded up as Zimmerman was already being vigilantic and wanted to become jury when Martin defended himself against an obvious stalker that followed him home.
Zimmerman left his vehicle and was heading in the direction he had last seen Martin run.
He wasn't following anyone home and had no idea where he had taken off to.
He tells the dispatcher that he ran towards the back entrance.
Zimmerman is on the phone for over four minutes and at no time does he ever come in contact with Martin or indicate he wants to.
When the dispatcher noticed he was on foot, he asked "Are you following him", Zimmerman replies "Yeah".
Dispatcher then says "OK, we don't need you to do that", and Zim acknowledges with "OK". That took a whole 15 seconds to transpire and the conversation continued for another 2 minutes.
So... where was Martin all that time? If he was in fact 'scared' about some guy sitting in his truck and took off running .... why wasn't he at Brandy's condo 20 seconds later?
The condo is only 100 yards from where he began to run.
According to dispatch logs compared with the 911 tapes, a full 4 minutes and 31 seconds go by from the time he takes off running and the first 911 call comes in with screaming in the background. 45 seconds later, the shot is heard.
Once again .... where is Martin for that 4:31 and why is he still anywhere near the front of the complex? Is he behind a fence partition listeni...
Zimmerman left his vehicle and was heading in the direction he had last seen Martin run.
He wasn't following anyone home and had no idea where he had taken off to.
He tells the dispatcher that he ran towards the back entrance.
Zimmerman is on the phone for over four minutes and at no time does he ever come in contact with Martin or indicate he wants to.
When the dispatcher noticed he was on foot, he asked "Are you following him", Zimmerman replies "Yeah".
Dispatcher then says "OK, we don't need you to do that", and Zim acknowledges with "OK". That took a whole 15 seconds to transpire and the conversation continued for another 2 minutes.
So... where was Martin all that time? If he was in fact 'scared' about some guy sitting in his truck and took off running .... why wasn't he at Brandy's condo 20 seconds later?
The condo is only 100 yards from where he began to run.
According to dispatch logs compared with the 911 tapes, a full 4 minutes and 31 seconds go by from the time he takes off running and the first 911 call comes in with screaming in the background. 45 seconds later, the shot is heard.
Once again .... where is Martin for that 4:31 and why is he still anywhere near the front of the complex? Is he behind a fence partition listening to every word and waiting for Zimmerman to end his call?
In 4 minutes and 31 seconds, he could have ran around the perimeter of the entire complex.
No... The dispatcher didn't give him ANY kind of ORDER to stop, because they are not allowed to by law. They are not physically on the scene and are there only to collect information and relay that info to the appropriate agency.
What he did say was a trained response that is given for the callers safety and to protect the PD from any liability. It is captured on tape that he was not requesting Zimmerman to attempt to follow Martin.
Regardless, Zimmerman acknowledged with "OK" and proceeded to give the dispatcher directions, address, phone number and calmly makes arrangements to meet with Law enforcement when they arrive.
Two units had already been sent enroute well before the call was ended.
It is quite evident that he is not following, stalking, or chasing anyone.
He even makes the comment that he has no idea where Martin is at.
It's all recorded on the call.
At no time does Zimmerman break any laws whatsoever, including Florida stalking law which reads:
Code Section - 784.048
Stalking Defined as
Willful, malicious, and repeated following or harassing. (704.048(2)); Aggravated stalking: willful, malicious and repeated following or harassing another with cred...
No... The dispatcher didn't give him ANY kind of ORDER to stop, because they are not allowed to by law. They are not physically on the scene and are there only to collect information and relay that info to the appropriate agency.
What he did say was a trained response that is given for the callers safety and to protect the PD from any liability. It is captured on tape that he was not requesting Zimmerman to attempt to follow Martin.
Regardless, Zimmerman acknowledged with "OK" and proceeded to give the dispatcher directions, address, phone number and calmly makes arrangements to meet with Law enforcement when they arrive.
Two units had already been sent enroute well before the call was ended.
It is quite evident that he is not following, stalking, or chasing anyone.
He even makes the comment that he has no idea where Martin is at.
It's all recorded on the call.
At no time does Zimmerman break any laws whatsoever, including Florida stalking law which reads:
Code Section - 784.048
Stalking Defined as
Willful, malicious, and repeated following or harassing. (704.048(2)); Aggravated stalking: willful, malicious and repeated following or harassing another with credible threats with the intent to place person in reasonable fear of death or bodily injury; or willfully, maliciously, repeatedly follows or harasses minor under 16; or after injunction for protection or any court-imposed prohibition of conduct, knowingly, willfully, maliciously and repeatedly follows or harasses another person.
NO VERBAL CONTACT had been made between the two and Zimmerman did NOTHING in a threatening nature.
Angela Corey will rue the day she caved into pressure from race-baiters and the almighty camera.
Fact is.... Zimmerman didn't break a single law no matter how loud the bleeding heart yell.
There is absolutely nothing he can be convicted of, especially M2.
That has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
All the prosecution has are the claims of a teenager who will get her story torn to shreds if she ever takes the stand.
It makes no difference what the laws are in WA. CA. NY or the Moon.
I posted the Florida statute (above) that describes the definition of stalking and Zimmerman doesn't even come close.
He will walk and under Florida law cannot be charged in a civil suit afterward.
Perhaps the report from paramedics who treated him at the scene?
Or maybe the incident report that Officer Smith (first responder) wrote that clearly states blood coming from Zimmerman's nose & back of head?
Take your pick.... it's well documented.
9mm entrance wound in rib cage and causing immediate stoppage of heart. No pump, any small amount would have been absorbed by sweatshirt.