What Will We Say?

irish 2011/11/20 17:37:23

Saturday, November 19, 2011

What Will We Say?

by Eric Peters

What will we say when the government announces that “for security
reasons” it will begin conducting random checks of our homes? That we
will be required by law to open our doors and stand aside while
government agents do a walk-through, just to “be sure” and (of course)
“to keep us safe”?

It is a serious question, not (as I will be accused of purveying)
exaggerated or paranoiac. After all, we are already told specifically
that we have no legal expectation of privacy when we’re out in public
and it’s been implicit for years now that we have very little left in
the way of Fourth Amendment rights anywhere – even in our own homes.
See, for example, the recent Indiana Supreme Court decision that a
homeowner has no right to resist even an illegal, warrantless and
probable cause-free entry by cops. A cop, possibly psychotic, without
doubt armed and packing the state’s authority to administer lethal
violence – can literally kick in your door, for absolutely no lawful
reason whatsoever – and if the homeowner resists, it is the homeowner
who is in violation of The Law. If, say, you are asleep in bed and are
awakened suddenly by the sound of your door being kicked in and you –
fearing for your life – grab the pistol you keep by your bed and shoot
the unknown berserker, it’s you who will go to prison!

“We believe,” said these latter-day Roland Freislers, that “… a right to
resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy
and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence.”
(Italics added) “We also find that allowing resistance unnecessarily
escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of injuries to
all parties involved without preventing the arrest.”

And of course, we are told that we must Submit and Obey at airports. But
that is hardly the end of it. As predicted, submission training is
being expanded to bus stations and Interstates. The Department of
Homeland Security is deploying its VIPR (Visible Intermodal Prevention
and Response) squads of khaki-clad, sidearm-wearing, black shirted
American SA all over this land for the sole purpose of further
routinizing random, probable cause-free searches and, of course,
assaults on what used to be regarded by most people as their inviolable
personal space. Get people to accept crotch grabs and they will soon
accept anything. The government knows this – which is precisely why the
government is doing this. There is simply no rational reason, for
example, to herd people leaving a train or bus into a gantlet of cops
for a session of Submit and Obey. Yet this has been done – is being done
– and will continue to be done. Because it acclimates people to the
unreasonable, the unfair – the abusive. It is the whole point of the
exercise, you see.

Now then. What will be the reaction when the goons in Washington
announce that “terrorists” are finding refuge in “safe houses” – private
homes? There could be a Manhattan Project in your next door neighbor’s
basement – perhaps in your basement… .

Far-fetched? Paranoid? Really? More far-fetched than crotch-grabbing
7-year-old white kids on the theory that their parents might be secret
A-Rabs who perhaps bleached their progeny and outfitted said child with
radioactive Underoos? Or demanding that crippled 80-year-olds remove
their Depends for similar reasons? Or that because there might be a
drunk driver out there on the roads, every single driver who happens to
be on the road automatically forfeits his (former) Fourth Amendment
rights? Or that is now illegal – in Indiana, at least – to resist an
armed intrusion by a costumed thug into one’s own home?

It is not paranoid – and far from being far-fetched – to imagine where
this will all inevitably lead. We – enough of us to give the illusion of
consent, at least – have already conceded the principle. That
“security” justifies almost anything. And probably, very soon,

We shall see.

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  • Dave 2011/11/20 18:11:46
    The USA is made up of a scared group of people. The USA is like the school bully. Until someone pushes back and says we've had enough of being bullied it will continue.

    This government has taken a tragic event and turned it into something to use and manipulate people - here and abroad.

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  • morning40oz~mad as hell 2011/11/21 17:51:03
    morning40oz~mad as hell
    There will be consequences, but the right answer to the question is we say NO. When TSA stops us randomly on the highway like they are doing in Tennessee and fixing to do in Texas, we need to say NO. The fourth amendment gives us the Constitutional right to say NO. If we don't, then we only have ourselves to blame and deserve everything we get.
  • irish morning... 2011/11/21 17:55:19
    and tsa is being used as mercenary cops against ows.
  • morning... irish 2011/11/21 18:10:03
    morning40oz~mad as hell
    Did you know about that story about the sheriff in Alabama who requested the National Guard to work security in his town because the city couldn't afford to fund the sheriff's department? I guess that was a couple of years ago. I'm not sure. I can't keep up with time any more it is flying way too fast for me. Anyway, we are inches away from a full-blown police state and the lemmings are too busy bickering to notice. I wonder if they'll still bicker while they're roomed at Camp FEMA.
  • irish morning... 2011/11/21 18:29:01
    good question. no ,they can't see it with the ows protests as they side with the cops.
  • morning... irish 2011/11/21 18:42:28
    morning40oz~mad as hell
    For whatever reason, I'm grateful that I can see what is going on. We'll see how much good it does as things come to pass. It sure as hell is frustrating to watch though, as you well know.
  • irish morning... 2011/11/22 13:52:05
    i agree you know.
  • Shirley 2011/11/21 07:20:16
  • irish Shirley 2011/11/21 13:13:19
    well said.
  • Gregaj7 2011/11/21 05:59:57
    18 USC 242; 42 USC 1983, 1985, 1986:
    hell no
  • KateLenn 2011/11/20 21:25:09
    I want to start with “I am an American”. If you come into my house uninvited, then I will defend my home and family by right. I haven’t done anything unlawful or illegal, other than go a little fast on the highways. They have my SSN, Job history, Current employer, banking information. Throw in that my identity can be stolen and they know what I owe. I get that there is a need to be cautious, but fighting amongst ourselves is the other side winning.

    I don’t think I have any direct links to the Mayflower, because my family was here long before. Outlaws may run in the family, who knows survival is key. We need to start here at home with making things right, and get out of other people’s homes and territories. We need to quit funding the corruption, and ruining their economies. America needs to be the good neighbor that others come to, not the ones they hate and trick into fighting their battles for them.

    God Bless the USA ! If a country wants to invade, start with the South, we are card carrying gun owners that know how to hunt, and gut. We are also stubborn enough to fight for our families and our freedom. Welcome to America, but “Don’t tread on Me”.
  • Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F 2011/11/20 20:32:19
    Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F
    "Say hello to my little friend!!!!" Famous last words of Scarface and this freedom fighter!
  • ray 2011/11/20 19:23:13
    Will we be the ones who failed freedom?
  • Rebel Yell 2011/11/20 19:21:36
    Rebel Yell
    Admiral Yamamoto refused to support the invasion of the US in WWII because, he said, "There will be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

    Long before that thought, Congress, in July of 1776, made crystal clear that same revelation. " ....that whenever any form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. "
  • krayzrick 2011/11/20 19:05:32
    Someday, we shall all have to pick up the sword...
  • DeeB 2011/11/20 18:52:37
    The people that say that if you have nothing to hide it should be okay, should be hung on the highest tree. They are the reason this is happening. And all the people that continue to fly, I blame them. This could have all been nipped in the bud right away. Everyone should have just said no to molestation by total strangers while traveling, but no, they are afraid of the boogie man that the government made up to do just what they are doing. Now what are you going to do idiots?
  • Dave 2011/11/20 18:11:46
    The USA is made up of a scared group of people. The USA is like the school bully. Until someone pushes back and says we've had enough of being bullied it will continue.

    This government has taken a tragic event and turned it into something to use and manipulate people - here and abroad.
  • irish Dave 2011/11/20 18:15:29
    well said.
  • Dave irish 2011/11/21 07:02:22
    Thanks, Irish. People need to open up their eyes and see what pigs we truly are. We're better than this as people!
  • irish Dave 2011/11/21 13:15:57
    i agree.
  • tredzwater Dave 2011/11/20 19:17:01 (edited)
    I believe that it was Robert Heinlein who said that it is impossible to enslave a free man. The most you can do is kill him.

    Slaves/serfs have, historically, outnumbered those who would keep them in bondage. The majority of US citizens would rather be enslaved than to take a stand and tell our government that we won't accept this behavior.

    I'm not, in the least, any sort of insurrectionist but, if a government employee tries to touch me in places I prohibit touch by strangers, I'll be happy to make a hugely public case of it. HUGELY public.

    BTW, I no longer fly. I drive. If I ever go to Europe, again, perhaps I can find a tramp steamer who needs a really good cook.
  • Dave tredzwater 2011/11/21 07:06:23
    I love you, Tredwater. That is so true - humans have stopped evolving. We are going backwards now.

    I will never fly again and I bet that the security on a ship is a lot less than on a plane. I know it's true if you travel by train. Soooo incredibly ridiculous.
  • Beccy 2011/11/20 18:00:49
    Maybe the question should be what will we say when our grandchild asked why we sat back and let this happen?
  • irish Beccy 2011/11/20 18:03:33
    good one!
  • morning... Beccy 2011/11/21 17:57:49
    morning40oz~mad as hell
    I ask that question right now and I'm 43 years old.
  • Beccy morning... 2011/11/22 02:47:21
    You are right. When I realize that this started in 1913 I wonder what our great grandparents, grandparents and parents were doing. I will take my share of the blame but they allowed this to start. The lessons should have been learned in the 30's. We talked about the same issues in the 60's. We know this was happening and stopped the ball.
  • morning... Beccy 2011/11/22 02:52:16
    morning40oz~mad as hell
    I give the older generation a LITTLE more latitude than my own because we have the advantage of living in the age of technology and can see what the right and left hands are doing. There have been people, throughout the decades, who have tried to warn the public, but the majority refused to listen. So, I still hold them accountable, only a little less so than us.
  • Beccy morning... 2011/11/25 03:14:35
    Yes the same message was there and we dropped the ball

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