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What point was Obama making when he said 'If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen' ?

Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/16 07:25:44
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President Barack Obama addressed supporters in Roanoke, Virginia on Saturday afternoon and took a shot at the business community. President Obama dismissed any credit business owners give themselves for their success:

There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

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  • Mrs. maggot 2012/07/16 12:13:21
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    Ok Mr. Obama, just exactly who was it that got up before sunrise to cook from scratch several varieties of soup each day. Who was it that hand crafted each and every specialty sandwich and salad? Who washed those dishes ran the cash register and mopped the floors? My little "mom and pop" was very successful and with the exception of my one employee who worked as a waitress from 8am to 2pm and my mom who handled the register through the lunch rush, I seem to have different ideas about small business than you do...

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  • BigFig#9 CODE 11 2012/07/16 17:58:04
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    'sort of' correct.... The Interstate Highway System was designed to accommodate military needs but the Rail, Canal and State Highway systems all had the principal goal of helping to develop commerce and trade and that was a known byproduct of the Interstate System however in the Cold War crazed 50's and 60's if you attached a 'military preparedness' label to any government bill it helped the funding jet through congress.
  • Idiot r... CODE 11 2012/07/16 17:58:39
    Idiot repubs
    LOLOLOL!!!!
  • ack CODE 11 2012/07/16 18:55:54
    ack
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    Wasn't the railroads all privately funded and built to make money for the owners and investors?
    Wasn't ist the railroads that built America?
  • CODE 11 ack 2012/07/17 17:53:45
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    Yes indeed..built by businesses to expaned America. I 95 was built to transport military equipment in war time.
  • Hawkeye BigFig#9 2012/07/16 17:56:38
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    "Without your employees, without a government structure and courts that support it, without a transportation system or telecom infrastructure to deliver your goods you cannot build a business."

    Without a business you wouldn't have business TAXES to pay for these things.. You wouldn't have people with JOBS ( employees ) who earn a living AND who pay income taxes to PAY for these things.. Without Businesses you wouldn't have REASONS for these things..

    The Tea Party,, who are FAR from being the fringe,, are 100% RIGHT
  • BigFig#9 Hawkeye 2012/07/16 18:03:42
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    So Business and Government are co-supportive - I agree. Neither can prosper alone. Tea Party does have many idealists but idealism without practical policies cannot lead a country.
  • Hawkeye BigFig#9 2012/07/16 18:08:15
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    Nor can EXTREME political Ideologies as Obama has PROVEN..
  • BigFig#9 Hawkeye 2012/07/16 20:02:16
    BigFig#9
    He's pretty darn centrist in his polcies - enough to piss me off.... I DO believe he's probably much more progressive than he's shown but he's tried to hit the middle for political purposes. Crappers, his Terrorism policy is right of Bush's (or at least more effective), he sold out on a health care plan to the business/insurance lobby and not only didn't go single payer, he even killed public option to keep the righties underwear from bunching up. Not sure where you can say policy is extreme left wing in any way - although I hope his underlieing beliefs aren't as middle of the road as he has governed.
  • ack BigFig#9 2012/07/16 18:58:33
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    I feel that American enterprise would do a whole lot better with a whole lot less government intrusion.
  • Old Timer 2012/07/16 16:57:05 (edited)
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    Same point he was trying to make when he said that paralegals were standing by to help those that might feel faint in the crowd. JUST BLATHERING STUPIDITY.
  • JackSchitt 2012/07/16 16:49:50 (edited)
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    Obama's point is.....at the top of his head. This comment is so asinine I can't even begin to evaluate it. So I'll just re-post the clip from Hope n' Change Cartoons. It says it perfectly:



    "Oh sure, you might have been the one with the original idea. You might have invested your own money. You might have done all the work yourself. But when you're finally presiding over an actual business...you didn't build it. And you damn sure shouldn't be allowed to keep the profits.

    To help illustrate this point for his supporters, the president then related the story of "The Greedy Little Capitalist Hen," in which a chicken plants a grain, waters the grain, tends the grain, harvests the grain, mills the grain, then makes it into bread with no help from the other lazy farm animals.

    When they smell the delicious fresh-baked bread, they want to eat it - but the greedy capitalist hen says, "No. None of you did any of the work!"

    So the angry animals elect a leader who points out that the greedy capitalist hen didn't create the grain, or the soil, or the water by herself - and then says the lazy animals should not only get the bread, they should use it to make chicken sandwiches. And they all eat happily ever after!

    Well, they ate happily ever after until they ran out of chicken sa...






    Obama's point is.....at the top of his head. This comment is so asinine I can't even begin to evaluate it. So I'll just re-post the clip from Hope n' Change Cartoons. It says it perfectly:

    asinine begin evaluate ill re-post clip hope change cartoons perfectly

    "Oh sure, you might have been the one with the original idea. You might have invested your own money. You might have done all the work yourself. But when you're finally presiding over an actual business...you didn't build it. And you damn sure shouldn't be allowed to keep the profits.

    To help illustrate this point for his supporters, the president then related the story of "The Greedy Little Capitalist Hen," in which a chicken plants a grain, waters the grain, tends the grain, harvests the grain, mills the grain, then makes it into bread with no help from the other lazy farm animals.

    When they smell the delicious fresh-baked bread, they want to eat it - but the greedy capitalist hen says, "No. None of you did any of the work!"

    So the angry animals elect a leader who points out that the greedy capitalist hen didn't create the grain, or the soil, or the water by herself - and then says the lazy animals should not only get the bread, they should use it to make chicken sandwiches. And they all eat happily ever after!

    Well, they ate happily ever after until they ran out of chicken sandwiches and starved to death. But the president skipped that part of the story.

    Despite the fact that this is clearly a fairy tale, the president's supporters are eating it up just like the lazy farm animals they are. And it's even possible that Barack Obama himself believes that neither bread nor businesses can be created by the hard work of just one person.

    Though oddly enough, it's exactly the way he claims to have killed Osama bin Laden."

    The moral of the story: Get the chicken to pay for your healthcare
    BEFORE you kill her and eat her bread.
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  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2012/07/16 16:31:07
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    jubil8 BN-0 PON
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    He explained it: "The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own."

    If you lived in the USSR, it didn't matter how smart you were or what brilliant business idea you had. The STATE didn't allow you to prosper (legally). Obama was saying that our system encourages building -- and we're ALL part of the system.

    Bottom line: "No man is an island."
  • sheratan 2012/07/16 16:24:47
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    People should realize that there’s no such thing as a “self made man”

    Even the most successful and ethical people can thank their parents, their teachers, their siblings, their employees, their customers, the government, their contractors, etc. Without them, they would be nothing. The unethical might want to work on their apologies.
  • ProudProgressive 2012/07/16 16:19:12 (edited)
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    As President Obama has correctly noted, business does not exist in a vacuum. How well would Bain Capital have done if they didn't have electricity, internet access, telephone service, interstate highways, the Federal Aviation Administration, the union workers who built their office buildings, the postal service to deliver their pink slips, and all of the other things that make up a society. The Right Wing's attacks on the public sector are not only completely ignorant, but they are destructive. When Ronald Reagan declared war on working Americans 30 years ago, the first shots were fired at the very government that gave Reagan the power to destroy all of those jobs.

    President Obama gets it. It doesn't seem like there's a single Republican in this country who does.
  • RG 2012/07/16 16:10:17
    Obama's point is....
    RG
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    ...that he never did any work, yet managed to reap everything he ever wanted. He thinks that his hand was filled because he is entitled. He does not understand that those who did the filling of that open, lazy hand worked hard and were enterprising enough to become successful. This ingrate actually hates enterprising minds and wants the population to become a mindless mass that is totally controlled by the government. He has shown by his speech that he is mentally ill and futhermore, swims in communist ideology.
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/07/16 16:10:16
    Obama's point is....
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    The business belongs to the Communist. You will work for them
  • RED DAWN 2012/07/16 16:10:11
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    I don't really think obbie had a point.His speech writer left a large space between paragraphs so he had a brain fart.I'll just fill in with another lie.
  • MkB 2012/07/16 15:55:47
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    MkB
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    I think he meant: "Damn, right people. Somebody else made it happen.. our Founding Fathers when they laid the corner stone for this exceptional country of ours".
  • Murph 65 MkB 2012/07/16 16:19:39
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    You're joking of course?
  • MkB Murph 65 2012/07/17 01:08:55 (edited)
    MkB
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    Tell me where I'm wrong.
  • Murph 65 MkB 2012/07/17 19:14:26
    Murph 65
    +2
    I think you're right it was our founding fathers who set the whole thing up so we could be free, work incredibly hard, and be successful. Do I think that's what Obama meant? Absolutely not. Actually, I thought you were being a bit sarcastic. Sorry. I'm assuming from your response to me that you believe that was, in fact, what Obama meant.
  • One of Y'shua's,דָּנִיֵּאל 2012/07/16 15:50:01 (edited)
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    NEBULOUS LOGIC and IGNORANT BASED STUPIDITY...lol...he lost me at, "and they will tell you I am BLACK" as opposed to, "HE had me at HELLO"..obama is a HATEFUL "SHTREET" THUGGIN' PUNK A$$ BIGOT COMMIE..but that is just an OPINION, the "SHTREET" part, the rest is 100% TRUE...PROVEN FACTS, ALL IN EVIDENCE....
  • Bob S 2012/07/16 15:43:48
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    Very difficult to find and to try and follow his logic is just pain scary. He should have added that everyone has done everything for King Obummers. Who paid for what? Where did he get his money for the drugs that he admiited using? Just what of business was he involved in> He sure didn't learn much with the decisions that he is making for America.
  • Golden Panther 2012/07/16 15:39:54
    Obama's point is....
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    Individuals should not be able to retain their hard earned profits as it is better to spread the wealth among those lazy louts who do not want to work at the expense of those who are productive. This is communist concept that cannot work.
  • Franklin 2012/07/16 15:38:57
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    Franklin
    +6
    Same thing liberals always mean to say – personal responsibility is “wrong” . Job creators have to share not only their wealth but their accomplishments as well ...no one can take credit for anything ! It all belongs to the government ...ALL of it ! Even you and your children are just property of the government.
  • frank 2012/07/16 15:36:06
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    frank
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    To me it sounds like is saying the government built it for you and owns them both.
  • Jeff Smith 2012/07/16 15:27:58
    Obama's point is....
    Jeff Smith
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    Capitalism does work, You can't have a successful business without clients or customers
  • Kane Fernau 2012/07/16 15:20:45
    Obama's point is....
    Kane Fernau
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    You can't make it on your own you need the government's help.
  • Murph 65 Kane Fe... 2012/07/16 16:22:45
    Murph 65
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    I think you're right here. And he wants the government standing there, ready, willing and able to dish out whatever so that you working them the gov the rest of your life and, thus, voting for the dems because you're afraid the other side will take away what the gov's handing out. Not to mention I think he truly believes no one can make it on their own without gov help, and it fits right into class envy and warfare.
  • John Hall 2012/07/16 15:11:48
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    John Hall
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    I think what he's saying that buisness belongs to the people and we will and want to tax you more . He's also a selfish prick who doesn't own or even worked at one . If your a democrat and a buisness owner who buys what Obama is saying your a fool .
  • LarryFine 2012/07/16 15:11:05
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    A full and honest admission that he is a complete idiot.
  • Space Invader 2012/07/16 15:08:30
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    Space Invader
    +14
    you big dummies...the Govt. is the only one can make you or break you big dummy fred sanford
  • heirsoftheking 2012/07/16 15:04:48
    Obama's point is....
    heirsoftheking
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    That he is a complete idiot.
  • Leantom, the Economic Ratio... 2012/07/16 15:01:48 (edited)
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    Obama is an imbecile.



    Earth to Obama: Corporations and businesses were the reason that the government had enough tax-payer money to build roads, bridges and fund unionized, government workers (all the money comes from profit generated by corporations through commerce). Whereas corporations can exist without unions or the government (LIKE ANY HUMAN INDUSTRY), the government's and union's existences are predicated on the profit generated by businesses.
  • susan 2012/07/16 15:00:06
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    +12
    He was saying that he hates all business and any private enterprise, and campaigning for votes from the ignorant and the welfare class.
  • Maddog 2012/07/16 14:56:06
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    This guy is brain-dead! I suppose he's thinks that all businesses were built by the "government". What a socialist douchebag!
  • CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY 2012/07/16 14:40:23 (edited)
    Obama's point is....
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +12
    Whatever you've worked for, sacrificed for, invested in, etc belongs to THE GOVERNMENT and YOU owe THEM.



    If that isn't communist theology, I don't know what is.



    Yet you dimwits want to re-elect this scum?
  • NPC CUDDLY ... 2012/07/17 03:33:16
    NPC
    +2
    Why would Barack spew stupid $hit to the Voters that still think he matters ?
  • CUDDLY ... NPC 2012/07/17 17:38:03
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +3
    Doubtful that he is winning over ANY new converts.
  • Hawkeye NPC 2012/07/19 15:26:05

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