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What point was Obama making when he said 'If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen' ?

Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/16 07:25:44
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President Barack Obama addressed supporters in Roanoke, Virginia on Saturday afternoon and took a shot at the business community. President Obama dismissed any credit business owners give themselves for their success:

There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

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  • Mrs. maggot 2012/07/16 12:13:21
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    Ok Mr. Obama, just exactly who was it that got up before sunrise to cook from scratch several varieties of soup each day. Who was it that hand crafted each and every specialty sandwich and salad? Who washed those dishes ran the cash register and mopped the floors? My little "mom and pop" was very successful and with the exception of my one employee who worked as a waitress from 8am to 2pm and my mom who handled the register through the lunch rush, I seem to have different ideas about small business than you do...

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  • Lanikai Crypt_H... 2012/07/16 21:30:37
    Lanikai
    +4
    He was discrediting our hard work and the fact that WE paid the bills, WE made the decisions to ADVERTISE, WE paid for TV spots, WE worked hours and hours.

    True-customers DO keep the doors open, BUT without constantly working and PAYING all of the bills, it wouldn't exist.


    So until 1 single customer is responsible for my gas, electric, mortgage, 5 kinds of insurance, shop equipment, supplies, and other fees, don't think that they alone are responsible for any businesses success.


    It is the working without a salary, selling lower than anyone, taking very little profit and working tirelessly that BUILDS a business.

    And NO, the FEd does Nothing except harm businesses.
  • Crypt_H... Lanikai 2012/07/16 21:32:54
    Crypt_Heart
    It sounds like you're missing out on the support networks that are available for small businesses.
  • zapped Crypt_H... 2012/07/16 23:25:58
    zapped
    +1
    from reading both your & lanikai's comments here ,,

    IMHO you crypt arent getting it !!!!
  • Crypt_H... zapped 2012/07/16 23:41:36
    Crypt_Heart
    +1
    Nope, because even though I run my own business and effectively control another, I am quite aware that while yes, I put the framework in place, it is everyone who works under me that make the business successful. I couldn't manage the business I do while achieving the same turnover without them.

    Long gone are the days when I could attribute everything to myself.
  • zapped Crypt_H... 2012/07/17 01:30:49
    zapped
    +1
    you just twisted around what lanikai said !
  • zapped Crypt_H... 2012/07/17 01:33:40
    zapped
    +1
    not to mention ,,,if your actually from the UK ,,or is that more B/S ....?

    lots of S/H users put these felonious countires of origin !

    in the states we have an entirely different business aspects ....
  • Crypt_H... zapped 2012/07/17 01:57:14 (edited)
    Crypt_Heart
    I am indeed from the UK and no, if you look I said the same thing as I said before I just simplified what I said for the general populace to understand.

    I wasn't outright disagreeing with Lanikai on their main points, just their conclusion.

    If I were you I would look up the definition of felonious. A better and simpler word would be 'misleading'.
  • zapped Crypt_H... 2012/07/17 02:14:57
    zapped
    +1
    misleading & is the same as felonious ,, as in decieve or to decieve ,,

    pure semantics !

    or you using a brittish definition ?
  • Crypt_H... zapped 2012/07/17 10:45:48
    Crypt_Heart
    Deception is a Misdemeanor not a Felony. I'm using the American definition here.
  • zapped Crypt_H... 2012/07/18 02:35:19
    zapped
    +1
    unless the deception is covering a felony !
  • Crypt_H... zapped 2012/07/18 09:25:55
    Crypt_Heart
    Deception is deception, point to a case where deception has been upgraded to a Felony.
  • Mika chunt 2012/07/16 19:16:34
  • zapped Mika chunt 2012/07/17 01:35:41
    zapped
    +1
    another supposed person from out of the US realm ..""greece"" or is that more B/S ?
  • PvK 2012/07/16 19:15:47
    Obama's point is....
    PvK
    The point is that this nation is prosperous because of it's geography, geology, it's history, it's ancestors, and all the work they did and the wars they fought, and it could support us all, but the economic system we have exploits most people in favor of big business.

    It is not necessary for anyone in this country to go without basic human needs, without constantly keeping everyone down with rents, taxes, bank fees, etc., while excessively subsidizing corporations.

    In fact, we'd probably do much better as a whole if we had the wisdom to restructure our economy so that people had their basic needs met.

    But the powers that be, the huge corporations, have most of us thinking that the current system is necessary, in one way or another.
  • Mr Bob 2012/07/16 19:05:39
    Obama's point is....
    Mr Bob
    +5
    He's saying the government is entitled to our money.
    Time to can his ass.
  • Lanikai Mr Bob 2012/07/16 19:36:09
    Lanikai
    +4
    WAY past time to can his ass.
  • Icono1 Mr Bob 2012/07/16 21:21:32
  • Pat Mr Bob 2012/07/16 21:25:03
    Pat
    No he's not saying that. You're missing the point of his statement. Obama's point it that no one succeeds on their own.
    If you're a success it's because you had parents who supported you and raised you with a 'can do' outlook; you had teachers who taught you how to do math, how to present your product, maybe a science or shop teacher who trained you to build things or figure things out. If you produce a product, you're supported by the people that drive trucks carrying your products; those trucks drive on roads built by many other persons. We are, as a nation, inter-dependent on each other.
    Yes, we do have to make our own way and make our own success but when you think about it, we all rely on someone else to do their job well so that we can do our job well.
    He wasn't slamming people who succeed. He was just point out that when we succeed, we should never forget all the people who provided the stepping stones that we used to reach our success.
  • AL Pat 2012/07/17 21:57:11 (edited)
    AL
    +2
    LMAO! Lets face it here, Government can't do one damn thing- without tax funding from the Privet Secotor in the first place! So Its really the Public Sector that is indebted to the Privet sector instead!
  • Charge 2012/07/16 19:00:37
    Obama's point is....
    Charge
    +6
    Is this really the President You want? He wants HIGHER taxes on small businesses.
    Obama shows that he believes no one can accomplish anything on their own without his precious government; he shows his contempt for the middle class and the small business owner.
    That sound you hear is silence—as millions of small business owners and entrepreneurs were left speechless this weekend from President Obama’s latest insult.
    The slap in the face to hard-working Americans conveyed Obama’s belief that it takes a village—a heavily subsidized village—to create that venture you’re profiting from:
    "Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."
    Obama pushed his policy goals of infrastructure (aka stimulus) spending and “government research” as part of a collectivist utopia “doing things together.” It’s simply stunning that he would tell Americans, “If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that.”

    After all, could individuals be resourceful and hard-working enough to create whole new enterprises? Obama said:

    "Look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always ...

    Is this really the President You want? He wants HIGHER taxes on small businesses.
    Obama shows that he believes no one can accomplish anything on their own without his precious government; he shows his contempt for the middle class and the small business owner.
    That sound you hear is silence—as millions of small business owners and entrepreneurs were left speechless this weekend from President Obama’s latest insult.
    The slap in the face to hard-working Americans conveyed Obama’s belief that it takes a village—a heavily subsidized village—to create that venture you’re profiting from:
    "Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."
    Obama pushed his policy goals of infrastructure (aka stimulus) spending and “government research” as part of a collectivist utopia “doing things together.” It’s simply stunning that he would tell Americans, “If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that.”

    After all, could individuals be resourceful and hard-working enough to create whole new enterprises? Obama said:

    "Look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart."

    It is this view of successful businesses—essentially, “You owe us”—that drives Obama’s continued attacks on the country’s job creators in the form of tax hikes and regulations.
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  • Lanikai Charge 2012/07/16 19:36:21
    Lanikai
    +3
    I don't want him.
  • Pat Charge 2012/07/16 21:29:09
    Pat
    You are missing the whole point of his statement. And if you have a successful business it's because of the many, many people who helped you become who you are today starting with your parents. Obama's point it that no one succeeds totally on their own.
    If you're a success it's because you had parents who supported you and raised you with a 'can do' outlook; you had teachers who taught you how to do math, how to present your product, maybe a science or shop teacher who trained you to build things or figure things out. If you produce a product, you're supported by the people that drive trucks carrying your products; those trucks drive on roads built by many other persons. We are, as a nation, inter-dependent on each other.
    Yes, we do have to make our own way and make our own success but when you think about it, we all rely on someone else to do their job well so that we can do our job well.
    He wasn't slamming people who succeed. He was just pointing out that when we succeed, we should never forget all the people who provided the stepping stones that we used to reach our success.
  • Charge Pat 2012/07/16 23:04:56
    Charge
    +1
    Bull twinkies, Obama was stating how all the opportunity is provided by government and government is the underpinning of individual success... That's why You should be happy with higher taxes... this is simply a different philosophy that Obama has seeing government as the answer to everything. Obama fails to understand the free enterprise system and that the money the government has is ALL our money, the government has NO money. The system wasn't created first, the people created the need for the system. Obama has created so much as a candy store, what the heck does he know about working or creating anything; all he has done is shoot down our creativity and entrepreneurs.
  • zapped Charge 2012/07/17 01:44:11
    zapped
    +2
    this is the precise interpretation I and many analyists took from this speech !

    destroy the US from within ,,small business ,, medium size businesses ,, and therefore will choke out all them ...and any that fight to survive owe the govt . higher taxes ...!

    therefore this will make more dependence on the govt ....IE . socialistic regime !

    see what good that did GM ...and GE was encouraged to move off shore ,,,,and call centers for all the tech .firms encouraged to move to thailand / phillipines etc for cheaper labor ..

    ya have to demand to speak to some one in the states for tech support for century link ..sony , ma bell ...etc .
  • Charge zapped 2012/07/17 15:19:10
    Charge
    +1
    GE is a good example, of the 300,000 employees they have 170,000 are overseas.
  • NPC Charge 2012/07/17 03:30:29
    NPC
    +2
    His Donald Duck mouth has finally revealed his Saul Alinsky brain !
  • Charge NPC 2012/07/17 15:20:47
    Charge
    +1
    He's not trying to hide it, it's what he really believes.
  • Wulfdane 2012/07/16 18:58:58 (edited)
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    Wulfdane
    +4
    It was an entitlement speech, designed to stoke envy and class warfare. Putting business on notice that the goverment is coming after their money.

    Obama, "You built it, now we're entitled to it." Sure it will destroy more jobs, force more businesses to outsource and push us further into a second economic crisis, but Liberals will get their entitlements. That is until we run out of money.
  • Crypt_H... Wulfdane 2012/07/16 21:27:25
    Crypt_Heart
    Oh I dunno, I got the opposite feeling. I got the feeling real business leaders are those that ask for help, who ask their employees to do things rather than 'demand'. Real business leaders look back and thank those that have helped them. Successful businesses are communities of networked social groups that work well together.
  • Ozzyboy 2012/07/16 18:58:47
    Obama's point is....
    Ozzyboy
    +5
    He is setting the scene for more reparations because like wacko Warren said, all those roads were built by someone else and your business would not be prosperous if not for the work of others, rather than our own hard work. I would counter that my taxes paid the roads, giving jobs to people so it was a fair trade and paid in full.
  • ack 2012/07/16 18:47:28
    Obama's point is....
    ack
    +4
    That he is really a Marxist.
  • President Camacho 2012/07/16 18:35:50
    Obama's point is....
    President Camacho
    +4
    That he is an idiot.
  • Brother Bo 2012/07/16 18:26:03
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    Brother Bo
    +2
    What office do I apply to to have someone else build me a business? That would make life a lot easier, but I wouldnt appreciate it as much as if my own work and sweat were involved...
  • Fashionable60s 2012/07/16 18:22:35
    Obama's point is....
    Fashionable60s
    +4
    I think he went off the teleprompter because he spoke gibberish. The government will take care of you and will share your profits with others, be they slackers or just poor people. You can't do anything without the government's intervention. Dream on Obama, we are not ready for the drastic change you envisioned in 2008. We will decide what to do with you and your ideas with our votes in November.
  • Izariel 2012/07/16 18:04:52
    Obama's point is....
    Izariel
    +4
    He wants us to believe that hard working successful Americans didnt accomplish what they did becuase of their own skill, it was all the government. He also wants us to believe that Joe liberal sitting on his couch eating government funded potato chips is the reason that the corner store is successful. Disregard the fact he pays no taxes, disregard the fact the "wealthy" paid the vast majority of the taxes that built the infrastructure, disregard the fact that that Joe liberal had nothing to do with the company- Joe liberal has a right to that company's money- becuase the owner surely couldnt have built it himself. In America, the American dream is dead.

    The new American dream is to qualify for welfare. That is what Obama means.
  • Stevern... Izariel 2012/07/16 18:16:31
    Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Well said!
  • kevracer 2012/07/16 17:59:53
    Obama's point is....
    kevracer
    +2
    without speaking for the guy I took away this point : "You didn’t get there on your own." Any successful business requires customers, often vendors, investors, and employees are involved- and all contribute to a business' success. Another factor in success is the use of infastructure, roads, bridges, the internet, phone, mail, FedEx, etc.
  • C. C. R... kevracer 2012/07/17 11:33:34
    C. C. Rider
    +1
    GREAT POST and very true. THAT is what he meant. You can really see the desperation with these con blogs.


    cartoons on mitt romney
  • CODE 11 2012/07/16 17:53:53
    Obama's point is....
    CODE 11
    +3
    His point is that we all need a socialist goverment to take care of us..we can't do anything for ourselfs.
  • NPC CODE 11 2012/07/17 03:31:37
    NPC
    +1
    Evidently he is losing his mind since Boehner, Kantor and Ryan took over the House !

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