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What point was Obama making when he said 'If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen' ?

Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/16 07:25:44
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President Barack Obama addressed supporters in Roanoke, Virginia on Saturday afternoon and took a shot at the business community. President Obama dismissed any credit business owners give themselves for their success:

There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

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  • Mrs. maggot 2012/07/16 12:13:21
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    Ok Mr. Obama, just exactly who was it that got up before sunrise to cook from scratch several varieties of soup each day. Who was it that hand crafted each and every specialty sandwich and salad? Who washed those dishes ran the cash register and mopped the floors? My little "mom and pop" was very successful and with the exception of my one employee who worked as a waitress from 8am to 2pm and my mom who handled the register through the lunch rush, I seem to have different ideas about small business than you do...

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  • foy49 Michaelene 2012/07/17 15:38:33
    foy49
    +4
    "the government" = We The People, (WTP) = You & I. There is no oger living under the bridge, that we love to hate, named Government. "We have meet the enemy and he is us" (Pogo)
    So to answer your question; WTP (the government) "earns the $ to do all of this", by providing the services ,through our elected representivs, that WTP deem desirable.
    To take the last few words out of a long and poorly constructed sentence, in order to pretend that something that was not said, was said, is disingenuous at best, and at worst, recognizing that a fully and accurately informed electorate is nessary for the survival of a representative form of gov., an un american attempt to miss inform WTP
    O ya, the "only 47% pay taxse" is another B/S talking point intended to foster resentment and distrust among WTP in order to devide and weaken us, -
    Uninted We Stand, Devided We Fall, remember ?
    According to a popular argument from the "Right" businesses don't pay taxes, they simply pass that expence on to the consumer (WTP) so it's back to you & me, and it is our responsibility to each other to do the work nessary to become fully and accuratly informed.
    So Good Luck to you, for my sake as well as yours.
  • james2013 foy49 2012/07/17 20:14:39
    james2013
    +2
    I really appreciate you using the statement from Pogo. "We have met the enemy and he is us" Yes, we are responsible for a lot that's wrong with America today. Too damn many Pogoans are standing in line wanting something for free and thinking the goverment owes us a living or at least a subsidy to keep us up in the manner which we became accustomed. After WWII we became spoiled with all the money that flowed from the new businesses and jobs that politicians believed would not be created. They feared the worst when all the GIs came home from the war but were they surprised. I was too young to understand economics being only 10 years old but my mom and dad had plenty of jobs to pick from and got really well-off in a short time. As time moved on, people wanted more and more and eventually wanted government subsidies. I guess we can blame world war II for our ills because it created such a large job market, and after the war, I guess the population explosion probably undermined the economic system so the politicians stepped in and as usual began to regulate everything. I've reached the conclusion that this country would run extremely well if we closed Washington, the beareaus and all the BS and just got along with our local governents. At least they would be closer to the citizens and could understand what their state really needed. Yes my friend, Pogo was right: The enemy is us.
  • Michaelene james2013 2012/07/18 12:17:45
    Michaelene
    +1
    I agree and hope they government would shut down again. The last time, we got to see just how many and who was unnecessary. That would help us trim the budget.
    Oh that's right, it's been almost 1200 days without a budget.
  • Michaelene foy49 2012/07/18 12:15:15
    Michaelene
    +1
    Obama first divided the party, or did you miss the memo that the independents are now the largest group of voters. I left the party because I'd rather stand alone than stand by and support his kind of people (communists, socialists, democratic socialists and even a few Maoists) in his administration. I'm only talking about those proud admitted ideologues, not those who are still in the closet.

    In fact, I'd rather stand with the mob, they don't pretend to be what they are not.

    We the people pay for the services and provide the services, while the gov't wastes our money on never ending administrators who skim from the top.
    Obama wouldn't know much about a budget, he has never been a business man.
    He has a blank check for his pals and wants more money from those who already are taxed enough already.

    Thanks to his policies, we have 129,000 less millionaires in America since his inauguration.

    I agree we should be informed, but like most Obama idolators, there information comes directly from mybarackobama, think progress, mother jones, and other Obama fed propaganda.
  • JackSchitt foy49 2012/07/17 14:14:11
    JackSchitt
    +3
    I think that you've got the ORDER of things confused here. Towns and cities were created by businessmen who set up shop, worked hard and were successful. THEN the government started to connect those centers of commerce together with roads and bridges for the common good. No businesses...no need for roads. Does the govenment build roads that go nowhere? Or do developers say "I'm going to build a mall here...a plan of homes here...a factory there " and the roads are then extended out to those places.

    Would the postal service be what it is today simply carrying person-to-person mail?

    Without successful businesses needing intelligent employees, we could all just be farmers, hunters and gatherers with little or no schooling.

    These "support" services you mention owe their success to the successful business owner....NOT the other way around.
  • Grabitz JackSchitt 2012/07/17 17:12:59
    Grabitz
    +2
    Lolz ask Palin about the bridge to nowhere .
  • JackSchitt Grabitz 2012/07/17 17:19:16
    JackSchitt
    +1
    Yup. Classic example of government run amok.

    OK, I'll rephrase....."SHOULD the govenment build roads that go nowhere?"
  • Grabitz JackSchitt 2012/07/17 17:59:05
    Grabitz
    +1
    You know when they did such as roads to forest and such small communities sprung up all along the roadsides . If you all think our ancestors didn't help build this country that you did it all yourselves you all must have a loose fuse .
  • foy49 JackSchitt 2012/07/17 18:07:33
    foy49
    +1
    First - I'd like to thank you for the thoughtful, intelegent response.

    I do not disagree with your assment from a historical point of view, it is your either/or conclusion that I can't agree with.

    I would instead suggest that the relationship is symbiotic, not either / or.

    Your example of the Postal Service is a good one .The entire Mass Marketing industry owes it's existance, in part, to the pre exestance of the USP. Mass marketers were able to take advantage of an existing GOV. system and negoseate a rate that would be beneficial (profitable) to both partys. (junk mail) thanks ?

    To your land development example; (I'm in the business) land developers/home builders look for locations that have two important components, Proximity to major transportation corridors, and cheap raw land, or cheap abandoned or active agricultural land.

    In my neck of the woods all of the new development strings out east and west out of town along the existing I-10 corridor, "urban sprawl" .

    Which brings us to the National Highway System. In 1921 our Gov. asked the millitary for a list of roads they needed for national defence. The Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956 mostly funded it at a cost to date of $425 Billion in 2006 - $.
    We The People built it, every one benefits from it.
  • JackSchitt foy49 2012/07/17 20:05:54
    JackSchitt
    +1
    If We The People decided to spend money building out infrastructure in advance of need, then that infrastructure would exist with or without entrepreneurs willing to risk their personal fortunes to make use of it.

    What the hell has happened to this country where We the People suddenly feel ENTITLED to claim responsibility for their successes....when THEY are the ones who came up with the ideas, worked nights and weekends, sacrificed, mortgaged their homes in some cases, took all the RISKS.

    We all have the opportunity to stop working for others and try to fulfill the dream for ourselves....THEY had the courage and determination to do something about it. Now people who have ventured nothing sit back and listen as their president says "they're not so special...they owe their success to US". As if by merely paying my taxes, I've ENABLED them in some way.

    Not a SUCCESS they won't take credit for....not a FAILURE they won't try and blame on someone else. I've never been more disgusted.
  • foy49 JackSchitt 2012/07/17 21:13:14
    foy49
    I would share in your disgust if I had heard what you apparently heard/read, but I didn't. I watched the whole, unedited, and un cut version of the speach.
    What I did hear Obama say is that America contributes to the sucess of American businesses, that's all.

    P.S. Would you mind if I told people that you were a personal frind of mine ? I'v always wanted to be able to retort; " Actualy I do know Jack and . . . well you know.
  • JackSchitt foy49 2012/07/18 14:30:18
  • paul foy49 2012/07/17 20:32:07
    paul
    +1
    Yes, and most of the money that we all handed over for that was squandered and we now have a debt of 16 trillion dollars. Who made that happen?
  • Mean Mommy 2012/07/17 05:20:58
    Obama's point is....
    Mean Mommy
    +5
    He is the idiot of all idiots...there is no explaining the way he looks at things, he does not have a clue about what is going on in the real world. Any time he speaks he fumbles on his words, he never gives a clear or meaningful thought, this alone shows how much he is just a showboat nothing more and in this election year he will say anything to get votes. Just imagine 4 more years of this where will America be.... on its way to communist country. This individual does not have any morals or values and he surely is not looking out for America's best interest! Maybe all of America will just stop working altogether and see what happens then. He has gotta go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
  • Michaelene Mean Mommy 2012/07/18 12:20:35
    Michaelene
    +2
    I love when he mispeaks and then he send out his dogs to say "what Obama really meant to say was..."
    He was talking from the heart, the heart of a Marxist.
  • COCO 2012/07/17 05:00:39
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    COCO
    +2
    Sounds kinda like his presidency the American people MADE THAT HAPPEN,but he is such an ungrateful jackass,he thinks he is owed something.
  • Matt M 2012/07/17 04:15:48
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    Matt  M
    +5
    Great point obama has.

    From his perspective, someone else has always drug his sorry ass into everything he has every been given in life. So it's very natural for him to think this way because it follows from his experience.

    Of course other people help you. I've helped plenty of people in my career. And when they've gone and done great things, I've been very proud of them. But I was realistic about my contribution. Yes, my contribution was part of their success. But, they did it. And they don't owe me a thing.
  • Dan 2012/07/17 04:05:45
    Obama's point is....
    Dan
    +3
    Nothing is possible without government controlling everything so pay up.
  • golem48 2012/07/17 04:03:35
    Obama's point is....
    golem48
    +4
    He is Leninist slime..
  • Grabitz 2012/07/17 03:50:15
    Obama's point is....
    Grabitz
    +2
    Well we did all build this together , real Americans always did work together . For some of us our ancestors have been working on it all from way back . Many new people here that think they don't need us and get the Chinese , Mexicans who ever to do our work as Romney did . Stop outsourcing , I'm so happy this is all finely hitting the light .
  • Michaelene Grabitz 2012/07/18 12:25:22
    Michaelene
    +1
    Here's just a few examples of oursourced jobs from Obama and CO.

    *** OBAMA OUTSOURCING JOBS
    "The clip shows President Barack Hussein Obama addressing a crowd of his supporters with the Alexander Hamilton Bridge in the background. “Help us rebuild this bridge,” the president urges the crowd in his speech to trusting workers. “Help us rebuild America!” he shouts to his supporters. “Help us put American construction workers back to work,” the president tells those now cheering him on.

    However, the $400 million project was given to the Chinese government owned construction company and only Chinese workers will be used to rebuild that American bridge."
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/brin...



    "The Obama Stimulus has turned out to be an exercise in Venture Socialism . Unlike Venture Capitalism, in which investors risk their own capital to help companies launch and grown, Venture Socialism is when the federal government loans other people’s money (the taxpayers’) to companies. If the company pans out, the government gets the money back. If it goes belly up, the taxpayers—who had no say in the transaction—lose.

    The federal government should not have made these loans in the first place, to domestic or foreign companies. After the decision was made to loan to companies in the name of helping to sti...






    Here's just a few examples of oursourced jobs from Obama and CO.

    *** OBAMA OUTSOURCING JOBS
    "The clip shows President Barack Hussein Obama addressing a crowd of his supporters with the Alexander Hamilton Bridge in the background. “Help us rebuild this bridge,” the president urges the crowd in his speech to trusting workers. “Help us rebuild America!” he shouts to his supporters. “Help us put American construction workers back to work,” the president tells those now cheering him on.

    However, the $400 million project was given to the Chinese government owned construction company and only Chinese workers will be used to rebuild that American bridge."
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/brin...



    "The Obama Stimulus has turned out to be an exercise in Venture Socialism . Unlike Venture Capitalism, in which investors risk their own capital to help companies launch and grown, Venture Socialism is when the federal government loans other people’s money (the taxpayers’) to companies. If the company pans out, the government gets the money back. If it goes belly up, the taxpayers—who had no say in the transaction—lose.

    The federal government should not have made these loans in the first place, to domestic or foreign companies. After the decision was made to loan to companies in the name of helping to stimulate the American economy, some of these loans ended up funding projects in foreign nations and employing non-American workers.

    Fisker Automotive was the beneficiary of Venture Socialism and a classic example of the outsourcing of jobs to the tune of $529 million in federal loans. The California-based company, partially owned by the Qatar Investment Authority, took the money and outsourced the job of actually making its cars to a plant in Finland."
    http://townhall.com/columnist...

    GM (plants opened in Mexico), the jobs advisor Jeff Immelt of GE, the no taxes paid company (plants opened in China and India)
    Now millions of illegals caught working illegally are just released, free to take on another job.
    http://www.americanworker.org/
    (more)
  • Grabitz Michaelene 2012/07/18 15:33:13 (edited)
    Grabitz
    Well Obama gave them the money for the bridge , who they hired to do the job was not Obamas idea . Same thing been going on with the green thing , these corporation keep outsourcing . They call this free trade . Where do you think all the profits are going the corporations are makeing from tax cuts to slave labor pay to paying no tax at all in China ? You think its being invested in this country ? Oh you crazy fools !
  • Michaelene Grabitz 2012/07/19 00:05:43
    Michaelene
    +1
    I wonder why they were not sued by the Dept of Justice? Because Obama does not care about highly skilled construction workers. He's lost so many of their votes, he's moved on.

    It's the irony that Obama chose the bridges to use as a campaign stump for NEW American jobs, swaying the crowd with his phony rhetoric as if he cared, and did nothing to stop all 3 huge construction projects (2 he used as backdrops for a speech).
    Tell them what they want to hear and then mock them later when he laughs about No shovel ready jobs.

    Nothing to say about anything else I wrote huh? I knew you wouldn't, you swallow the lies hook line and sinker.
    Obama's superpac is named "American Bridge" and the chinese are working on our bridges today.
    Another failure!

    obama campaign bridges  obama campaign bridges  chinese workers  US bridges
  • urwutuis 2012/07/17 03:46:15
  • Chris -... urwutuis 2012/07/17 14:43:22
  • urwutuis Chris -... 2012/07/18 04:17:52
  • Chris -... urwutuis 2012/07/18 12:57:37
    Chris - The Rowdy One! #187
    +1
    Check your history. Roads and bridges were built initially through private funds. People didn't sit on their hands and wait for the government to come and help them out; they rolled up their sleeves and got the job done.
  • urwutuis Chris -... 2012/07/18 18:16:47
    urwutuis
    What private funds built the interstate system, the Panama canal or Hoover dam?
  • Singerar 2012/07/17 03:45:13
    Obama's point is....
    Singerar
    +7
    ..."there was a great teacher somewhere along in your life...".
    Are you people really that stupid to take this out of such context??
    Of course you made your business happen. But somewhere along the way you were inspired, or helped to make your dream happen! He's not saying YOU didn't make your business.
  • C. C. R... Singerar 2012/07/17 11:30:01
    C. C. Rider
    +2
    LOL Desperation at its worst. The cons are sweating for sure with this trash being printed. romeny lied to sec
  • Singerar C. C. R... 2012/07/18 05:03:08
    Singerar
    +2
    Lord, CCR, these idiots!!!!
  • Chris -... Singerar 2012/07/17 14:44:02
    Chris - The Rowdy One! #187
    +1
    Ummm...yeah, that is what he is saying.
  • Singerar Chris -... 2012/07/18 04:59:07
    Singerar
    +1
    He actually DID say it. Did you watch the video?
  • Chris -... Singerar 2012/07/18 12:58:28
    Chris - The Rowdy One! #187
    +1
    I have seen it a whole lot. I know what he said. It was the most insane thing I have ever heard from a political "leader" in my lifetime.

    I was horrified at that.
  • Singerar Chris -... 2012/07/18 23:17:46
    Singerar
    If that horrified you, you need lithium.
  • Chris -... Singerar 2012/07/19 13:13:29
  • Michaelene Singerar 2012/07/18 12:27:02
    Michaelene
    +1
    Really? Some teacher inspried you so now you think that teacher shoudl get what? They already get their paycheck from home and business owners property taxes.
  • Singerar Michaelene 2012/07/18 23:17:16
    Singerar
    Uh...a "thank you"? Why spin it the way you did? He's just reminding people that they are inspired in their life by someone who gave them the dream to go forward. It's a pretty simple concept in which you want to Damn the Pres. for.
  • Michaelene Singerar 2012/07/19 00:28:10
    Michaelene
    What spin, it's obvious what Obama thinks of his government policies, his constant threats and regulations on business, his failure to help the foreclosed because he dosen't believe in personal property rights, and his absolute hatred of successful people, well except for the Hollyweird crowd. He's starstruck!
    He's said worse and done worse, he's a follower of Marxist ideology admittedly. He grew up mentored by a raging Communist Frank Marshal Davis, and proudly joined the New Party whose members are running the Center for Progress today.

    I've been a teacher, its' not what you think it is, they're not perfect people, they're human. There is no idyllic atmosphere or common goals, no utopian society, it's actually a huge let down once you're in there working. The thanks is not needed but parental involvement is what most teachers desire.

    Look at any city school district, deep in the red, most of the people using the schools don't pay a dime in taxes and it reflects the community, most are outright dangerous. People run from the city unless they can afford private schools, but the rich have business and property there, pay their taxes to fund the public system even though they don't even use them. Go thank a rich person for that.
  • NPC 2012/07/17 03:26:09
    Obama's point is....
    NPC
    +3
    Barack is just a plain old dumbass jackass telling his base they are still stupid like he is.

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