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What point was Obama making when he said 'If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen' ?

Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/16 07:25:44
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President Barack Obama addressed supporters in Roanoke, Virginia on Saturday afternoon and took a shot at the business community. President Obama dismissed any credit business owners give themselves for their success:

There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

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  • Mrs. maggot 2012/07/16 12:13:21
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    Ok Mr. Obama, just exactly who was it that got up before sunrise to cook from scratch several varieties of soup each day. Who was it that hand crafted each and every specialty sandwich and salad? Who washed those dishes ran the cash register and mopped the floors? My little "mom and pop" was very successful and with the exception of my one employee who worked as a waitress from 8am to 2pm and my mom who handled the register through the lunch rush, I seem to have different ideas about small business than you do...

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  • norman Magnus ... 2012/07/16 17:58:28
  • Magnus ... norman 2012/07/17 08:38:03 (edited)
    Magnus ☮ RP ☮ 2012 ☮
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    Says a MARXIST. Thank you for PROVING my point!

  • Don 2012/07/16 10:44:29
    Obama's point is....
    Don
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    His point is that he doesn't know how to run a lemonaide stand, create a job, or have any understanding as to how our economy works.
  • Pug For Huck 2012/07/16 10:12:52
    Obama's point is....
    Pug For Huck
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    Company owners should not control their business. His view is that the owner didn't do the work to build the business, but "the people" did, namely the unions. This is a statement rooted in blatant socialism.
  • Hawkeye 2012/07/16 10:08:58
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    "That a successful business is not the result of one man's contribution, but the collective contributions of all employees and the contribution of countless others into the society that enables the business to function. Without infrastructure materials cannot be transported. Without civil protection, your resources can be stolen or destroyed. Without innovation, research, and technological advancement of others you could not perform your functions,possess the knowledge to understand or communicate the desire for your product. It is the rational realization that there is no such thing as a "self made man" because each person gains access to the collective achievements, knowledge and institutions from those before us, and it is all our responsibility to improve our society to better serve those after us and to contribute to that goal."

    The problem with THIS analysis is simple and obvious..First of all.. Obama is NOT merely attacking the individual but the business community itself.. It's an attack on the SUCCESS of that business community and the analysis FAILS to mention that NO ONE contributes MORE to the infrastructure,, the civil protections,, innovative research,, technological advancements and the benefits that such a busines provides for the community then the business i...

















    "That a successful business is not the result of one man's contribution, but the collective contributions of all employees and the contribution of countless others into the society that enables the business to function. Without infrastructure materials cannot be transported. Without civil protection, your resources can be stolen or destroyed. Without innovation, research, and technological advancement of others you could not perform your functions,possess the knowledge to understand or communicate the desire for your product. It is the rational realization that there is no such thing as a "self made man" because each person gains access to the collective achievements, knowledge and institutions from those before us, and it is all our responsibility to improve our society to better serve those after us and to contribute to that goal."

    The problem with THIS analysis is simple and obvious..First of all.. Obama is NOT merely attacking the individual but the business community itself.. It's an attack on the SUCCESS of that business community and the analysis FAILS to mention that NO ONE contributes MORE to the infrastructure,, the civil protections,, innovative research,, technological advancements and the benefits that such a busines provides for the community then the business itself..

    It's NOT the 49% of Americans who pay NO INCOME TAXES that provides such things.. It's NOT the person living in a rented home for $25.00 a month under Government subsidies that comes up with a new way to build a better Home..,,It's NOT the person that lives off of food stamps that finds more productive ways to get food to the masses.. It's NOT those who live off welfare that HIRES folks in this country.. No.. THEY are NOT the ones that provides for most of these benefits..

    it is the BUSINESS Community that accounts for these things..

    Obama's message is as it ALWAYS is,, HATE the person that YOU percieve to be better off then YOU are for it is NOT the Government that caused the problems we face today,, it is the Successful Business man or women that's GUILTY of these things because hey,, THEY get to live like Obama's Family while the poor average American must SUFFER having to PAY for it ..

    Obama's message is simple.. the ONLY people allowed to ACT like Millionaires in THIS country these days are the members of Obama's FAMILY and his Administration..

    YOU buy into the analysis that I quoted above and you might JUST as well open YOUR home to anyone who cares to move in because the vary SAME argument made against Businesses can be made against ANY American who managed to make ANY kind of success out of their lives..

    After all.. WHo the hell are YOU to live in a comfortatble home while SOME people are homeless and living on the streets..

    You have an administration that has RUINED our economy and like ANY good little community agitator worth his salt and Obama's message is EXACTLY the same as it has been from the start..

    " I didn't DO it,, Nobody SAW me.. You can't PROVE a thing.."..

    It's EVERYBODY'S,, and EVERYTING'S,, fault but Obama's..
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  • Cognito22 Hawkeye 2012/07/16 12:03:36
  • norman Hawkeye 2012/07/16 18:39:56
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    Well, your first paragraph made sense. The rest is just more "business is the great benefactor of society" garbage.

    It's not anti-business to expect social responsibility from the business community, in fact, government's involvement in regulating business is the very reason we live in a 1st world country (or used to before this moronic "free market" crap became popular) and why there ever was an American Middle Class.

    Without government as the arbiter, as the referee, as the regulator, greed will win out and all of these wonderful business people will quickly gobble up the world's resources, all of us and then most of themselves - wrecking all societies on their way down. Just exactly what we have been experiencing over the last 35 years of the "free market" era, culminating in the orgy of financial greed that brought down the entire world economy between 1997 and 2008.

    You simply, judging from your post, don't have a very broad understanding of how either economies or societies function.

    Oh, btw, the economy was ruined (and on the road to ruination) long before Obama was elected. Granted, he did virtually nothing to help ordinary people in this ruined economy (mostly he just continued the Bush administration's policy of funneling taxpayers' money to the Wall Street thieves who r...



    Well, your first paragraph made sense. The rest is just more "business is the great benefactor of society" garbage.

    It's not anti-business to expect social responsibility from the business community, in fact, government's involvement in regulating business is the very reason we live in a 1st world country (or used to before this moronic "free market" crap became popular) and why there ever was an American Middle Class.

    Without government as the arbiter, as the referee, as the regulator, greed will win out and all of these wonderful business people will quickly gobble up the world's resources, all of us and then most of themselves - wrecking all societies on their way down. Just exactly what we have been experiencing over the last 35 years of the "free market" era, culminating in the orgy of financial greed that brought down the entire world economy between 1997 and 2008.

    You simply, judging from your post, don't have a very broad understanding of how either economies or societies function.

    Oh, btw, the economy was ruined (and on the road to ruination) long before Obama was elected. Granted, he did virtually nothing to help ordinary people in this ruined economy (mostly he just continued the Bush administration's policy of funneling taxpayers' money to the Wall Street thieves who ruined the economy) but you can hardly lay the responsibility for the ruined global economic system at his feet.

    And if he's such an evil socialist/communist, business-hating scum, why is it that he and his justice department have brought no charges against the Wall Street thieves who ran the biggest Ponzi Scheme in world history, i.e., mortgaged-backed securities, credit-default swaps, and the general trading of debt that Wall Street has made all of its money from for over 30 years - essentially creating a system where betting on failure paid-off better than betting on success. As Blankfein (Goldman-Sachs) has been heard to say on many occasions, "thank god for debt, it's how we make our money."

    You need to take off your tiny, little business-blinders and take a bigger look at the world around you.
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  • Hawkeye norman 2012/07/16 18:52:28
    Hawkeye
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    What a load of BS.. Precisely the REVISIONIST'S crap that the left has been spewing out for decades..
  • The Black Dagger 2012/07/16 10:07:24 (edited)
  • Hawkeye The Bla... 2012/07/16 14:17:45
    Hawkeye
    +3
    He'll tell YOU that without Office Depot YOU wouldn't exist.. Then he'll go tell Office Depot that without you THEY wouldn't exist..

    The ONLY thing that I want to know is,,

    "IF you owe Office Depot and Office Depot owes YOU,, why the F#$K should Obama's Administration reap the benefits??"..

    Why is it that when anything goes wrong or anything goes right,, either way,, the GOVERNMENT has to be the ONLY one who benefits from it??

    America is JOBLESS and the Federal Government keeps getting bigger.. The MEAN personal wealth of the American Citizen is DOWN 30% and Federal Employees are getting RAISES.. People don't have JOBS yet Department Heads in Obama's administration are going on Multi-Million Dollar Vacations to Las Vegas..

    Something is TERRIBLY wrong here..
  • norman Hawkeye 2012/07/16 18:44:48
    norman
    Boy, something is terribly wrong, that's for sure. But I don't think it's due to what your talking about.

    "The MEAN personal wealth of the American Citizen is DOWN 30%"

    Actually the number is 40% and the same report that took note of that loss - the GAO - also laid responsibility for it directly at the feet of the Wall Street collapse between 2004 and 2008.
  • Hawkeye norman 2012/07/17 08:07:40
    Hawkeye
    +1
    SURE it did.. The reduced net worth of families is directly connected with the failing economy under Obama..
  • The Bla... Hawkeye 2012/07/17 00:56:51
    The Black Dagger
    +1
    Exactly. Well said.
  • Prairie Wind 2012/07/16 08:30:06
    Obama's point is....
    Prairie Wind
    +4
    That ... Obama is a pimp.
  • Shadow13 2012/07/16 08:24:14
    Obama's point is....
    Shadow13
    +4
    That a successful business is not the result of one man's contribution, but the collective contributions of all employees and the contribution of countless others into the society that enables the business to function. Without infrastructure materials cannot be transported. Without civil protection, your resources can be stolen or destroyed. Without innovation, research, and technological advancement of others you could not perform your functions,possess the knowledge to understand or communicate the desire for your product. It is the rational realization that there is no such thing as a "self made man" because each person gains access to the collective achievements, knowledge and institutions from those before us, and it is all our responsibility to improve our society to better serve those after us and to contribute to that goal.
  • Meako 2012/07/16 08:02:44
    Obama's point is....
    Meako
    +2
    In other words, to climb the ladder of succes you meet people along the way, a teacher a minister, a boss, a bank... someone helped you along the way ... pretty obvious what he means...
  • Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/16 07:47:39
    Obama's point is....
    Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +11
    I'm guessing Prez Obama is now taking more credit for creating a business then the business owner has.Therefore,if the federal government & other people has "invested" in every business.The feds now has claim for control of every American business,large and small!

    Funny that Obama now laying claim for helping creating a business.As far as I can tell,Obama has never personally created a private sector in his life!
  • Clyde Stevern... 2012/07/16 14:26:57
    Clyde
    +4
    The problem with him doing that though is.....if he and the government is responsible for all the successful business.....he then is also responsible for all the ones that fail. He is so blinded by his ideology he can't even see the giant flaw in his bull sh!t. So lets see.......3 out of every 4 new businesses fail in the first 3 years...that's a big ole 75% failure rate for odumass.
  • Charles E Clyde 2012/07/16 14:58:03
    Charles E
    +3
    LOL If only the sheeple would recognize the logic of your comment.
  • Clyde Charles E 2012/07/16 15:19:03
    Clyde
    +2
    Yea, well logic and critical thinking elude them at every turn to the left.
  • Stevern... Clyde 2012/07/16 15:03:22
    Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    I yet to see Obummer take blame for anything going wrong!
  • Clyde Stevern... 2012/07/16 15:19:49
    Clyde
    +2
    Well little does he know....he just did.
  • norman Clyde 2012/07/16 18:48:14
    norman
    Actually the number is closer to 80% and the same ratio of loss to start-up has been constant for over 60 years. It has nothing at all to do with who is the president.

    From what I read on this site I would have to say those most blinded by their ideology are the free market bozos.
  • Clyde norman 2012/07/16 19:32:31
    Clyde
    +2
    LOL, wow, you couldn't have missed the point any more if you were on the moon! ROFL you might want to go back and read the thread again.
  • NPC Stevern... 2012/07/17 03:35:39
    NPC
    +1
    I always wondered what happened to that Lemonade Stand he had back in Kenya ?!
  • Wolfman 2012/07/16 07:41:43
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    Obama has no idea what he is saying. He is losing and he can't raise money. He is panicked and he is snorting cocaine again.

    obama cocaine
  • Walt 2012/07/16 07:39:09
    Obama's point is....
    Walt
    +8
    0bama's point is that he refuses to acknowledge the kind of decisions business owners make in order to insure success.

    He refuses to acknowledge creativity or good business practices because due to his lack of even minimal experience, he simply cannot understand what it takes to make a successful business.
  • Rusty Shackleford 2012/07/16 07:31:38
    Obama's point is....
    Rusty Shackleford
    +4
    You owe everything you have to him.
  • Wolfman Rusty S... 2012/07/16 07:43:21
    Wolfman
    +5
    I have lost several hundred thousand dollars since he took office. He owes me that.
  • Rusty S... Wolfman 2012/07/16 07:44:46 (edited)
    Rusty Shackleford
    +4
    No, if you have anything left you owe that to him.
  • Wolfman Rusty S... 2012/07/16 08:07:15
    Wolfman
    +6
    I'll give him a swift kick in the butt.


    swift kick in the butt
  • COCO Wolfman 2012/07/17 05:12:53
    COCO
    +1
    Boy,how I dream about doing that.
  • Wolfman COCO 2012/07/17 05:27:12
    Wolfman
    +2
    Next November when you fill out that ballot.
  • Idiot r... Wolfman 2012/07/16 11:57:47
    Idiot repubs
    You being a bad businessman isn't anyones fault but your own.
  • Wolfman Idiot r... 2012/07/16 15:46:05
    Wolfman
    +1
    No, it's Obama's fault.

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