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What jobs can 800,000+ illegals do in America; that 15million+ unemployed Americans can not do?

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  • darcie lamar 2012/06/20 15:50:58
    darcie lamar
    +10
    In my area the jobs are construction, house cleaning, motel maids, lawn care, child care, roofing. Americans won't do this work for less than they should be paid, illegals will do this work and get paid less under the table and send money to Mexico while they collect welfare and have their anchor babies for Americans to support. Of course Americans want to work. The employers should be held accountable and fined heavily for hiring illegals. Everyone in this country has the opportunity to help fellow Americans, but the almighty dollar is more important than honesty.

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  • ReconMa... bman~AVA 2012/06/22 23:22:52
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +2
    You Got It...HE has to stay in Office to Completely Change US to a Socialist Nation..
  • bman~AVA ReconMa... 2012/06/23 03:48:36
    bman~AVA
    You're right sir and he's well on his way to doing that very thing. If he gets another 4 years then he will complete his destruction of our country and our rights too. http://www.disclosurenewsonli...
  • snell/G... ReconMa... 2012/06/21 21:58:54 (edited)
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    +3
    ...yeah, i'd say O'bama is pretty pissed off at the 'legal' Americans about now - he needs to dredge up the vote from the dead, dogs, and essentially anyone that can move to win in November.
  • ReconMa... snell/G... 2012/06/22 23:25:03
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +1
    Well he now has the 800,000 Illegals, The Vots counted by a Soros Company in Spain, SEIU Maintaining the Voting Machines, the New ACORN and the New Black Panthers, and the LIB MORONS....Did I leave antyhing Out..???
  • bman~AVA ReconMa... 2012/06/23 03:49:58
    bman~AVA
    I think you've pretty much covered the all star low life brigade there Recon.
  • bman~AVA snell/G... 2012/06/23 03:49:08
    bman~AVA
    Agreed my friend. You're right.
  • bman~AVA snell/G... 2012/06/20 19:17:49
    bman~AVA
    +3
    I second that!
  • Ozzyboy SteveMa... 2012/06/20 18:13:32
    Ozzyboy
    +5
    Don't forget the free health care, food, housing, education, heating, etc. With all that paid for, of course, they can easily survive on what they make and get to keep.
  • ReconMa... Ozzyboy 2012/06/20 18:44:40
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +3
    That they Actuall Do Here In CA...Under the Migrant and Farm Aid Bill, passed in 2011 by Brown...Health Care and Education...
    Hell, We even pick up Kids at the Border, In School Buses, transport them to School, feed them and Return them to the Border...Paid For By American Taxpayers...
    Schools need certain Head Count for the FED Dollars...Illegals are a good Source for the Head Count...
  • Ozzyboy ReconMa... 2012/06/20 22:14:55
    Ozzyboy
    +4
    I don't know why anyone would live in CA. The state is one of the most beautiful but the people have the least amount of common sense. They seem to have more money than brains. You are, of course, excluded. My adult son works in roofing, as a supervisor, and was supposed to take some spanish for the new hires. They didn't last so it became a moot point. I like your contracts. Very good.
  • Maddog Ozzyboy 2012/06/21 19:31:55
    Maddog
    +2
    You're right about that. I love to visit California but would never live there, the politics are way to wacky for my (conservative) tastes. There are many conservatives in CA, but they are outnumbered by the Libs and the illegals. Many of these conservatives are unable to "vote with their fee" and may lack the mobility to relocate, due to the demands of job and family.
  • ReconMa... Ozzyboy 2012/06/22 23:29:53
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +1
    Yes..CA is Beautiful and the LIB's and ILLEGAL's that have Ruined it SUCK...
    Thank you...
  • Michaelene SteveMa... 2012/06/20 18:15:07
    Michaelene
    +4
    I refuse to hire contractors that use foreign workers. I demand proof :)
  • ReconMa... Michaelene 2012/06/20 18:50:02
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +2
    I always put a clause in my Contracts, Must Have and show Proof Of Verified Work Permit and Must have an English Speaking Foreman on Job-site at all times This Trade is Present...
    Then I state Fine Limits for each count and each person found....

    This IS Legal and Binding..
    Then periodically, I would Drive thru the Job Site yelling Immigration, just to see who flees...then I photo them and fine that Sub Contractor...usually Concrete, Framing, Paint and Drywall, Stucco and Roofing are the violators, so i do this when they are on the job...
  • bman~AVA ReconMa... 2012/06/20 19:31:01
    bman~AVA
    +3
    Hehehehehe! Good deal my friend! A buddy of mine once bought a used border patrol vehicle at an auction several years ago. He told me he would go drive down thru S. Tucson where most of the trouble is at just to see how many of the Mexicans would take off running or hide in the shadows. I thought it was pretty funny but also told him that if he wasn't careful he's liable to get himself shot for his antics. It was comical just the same
  • Centuri... bman~AVA 2012/06/21 16:44:31 (edited)
    Centurion~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    I'm gonna have to get me one of those!

    border patrol at taco bell
  • bman~AVA Centuri... 2012/06/21 16:48:52
    bman~AVA
    Oh man that was such a hoot to ride with him from time to time. It was a big ole Chrysler with that 440 in it. Man that thing could move! Those police auctions are great to go to for autos like that. You just never know what you will find there.
  • bman~AVA Michaelene 2012/06/20 19:19:15
    bman~AVA
    That sounds like a good sound policy there miss Mchaelene. If more companies would do that here then I don't think we'd have a lot of the problems that we currently have here.
  • bman~AVA SteveMa... 2012/06/20 19:01:19
    bman~AVA
    +2
    I saw the same thing up here my friend with a concrete company I was working for. My boss put in a bid at 1980's prices and he got underbid by a fly by night company to do the work. Needless to say we didn't get the job but the other company did schlock work so the customer got what he paid for. I figure that job will last maybe a couple years and then he will have to have it redone.
  • Ozzyboy bman~AVA 2012/06/20 22:18:05
    Ozzyboy
    +2
    Big, big stink in Miami a few years back over the same thing. A friend got underbid and a few years later the work on the building crumbled right out from under them. The authorities were on the hook because they chose the cheaper and unskilled labor. It makes you look twice and check building quality at least three times.
  • bman~AVA Ozzyboy 2012/06/20 22:26:59
    bman~AVA
    +2
    Ooooohhhhh yes. There's that old saying that "you get what you pay for" and I've told friends in the past that there's a reason that cheap is cheap. I like saving money just like the next guy but in some cases if the price is really a whole lot cheaper then I start asking why. In some cases I'll pay the higher cost as I know of the quality of the product that I purchase. And in the case of that building that crumbled??? Now you've got people's lives in your hands. I couldn't live with myself if I knew that work that I've done cost someone their life.
  • bman~AVA darcie ... 2012/06/20 18:58:24
    bman~AVA
    Miss Darcie I couldn't have said it any better. Good comment.
  • Caitlin... darcie ... 2012/06/20 19:42:14
    Caitlin ~American Patriot~
    +1
    true that!
  • deborah... darcie ... 2012/06/20 20:43:19
    deborah sletten
    +1
    Sounds a lot like my neighborhood.
  • Rebel Yell 2012/06/20 15:44:32
    Rebel Yell
    I get a kick out of Romney' s immigration plans.... here is more mumbo jumbo from Romney ....." "If I'm president, we'll do our very best to have that kind of long-term solution that provides certainty and clarity for the people that come into this country through no fault of their own by virtue of the action of their parents."

    There you have it...blah, blah, blah.... the Republican plan. Amazing. What a freaking doophus.

    Among that 800,000 are some like Thalia Ramos ( Houston) who graduated from the University of Texas and can now legally apply to be a teacher. Among that 800,000 are soldiers returning from overseas who can now apply for jobs for which they were trained in the military... airplane mechanics, inspectors ,etc. Among those 800,000 are those with associates degrees who can pursue being a fireman.

    For many in that 800,000 not much will change because they are unskilled laborers, but for many, they will now be on the payroll and supporting the tax base rather than sitting around doing nothing.
  • SteveMa... Rebel Yell 2012/06/20 15:53:19 (edited)
    SteveMarine- JLA
    +6
    The military does not accept illegal immigrants...nor does fire depts...nor police depts....and if illegal Mexicans were going to college they should have been jailed not given scholarships and educations at tax payer expense. You have an odd way of looking at this...Obama gave the amnesty so he can get more votes...he doesnt care about those people....he just wants another four years of golfing and air force one...I will say it again..in my opinion..odumma is a disgrace.
  • Rebel Yell SteveMa... 2012/06/20 16:24:21
    Rebel Yell
    During the Iraq war, citizenship was being used as a recruiting tool aimed specifically at young illegals, who were told that by enlisting, they would able to quickly get citizenship for themselves and their entire families (not true; each family member has to go through a separate application process). Yes, the military does which is precisely why Romney said he woud veto any Dream Act except for those who had served seved their country in the military. For the many who have been to college or are now enrolled, they were sponsored in some way and many are on scholarship money.

    Who the hell cares whether you approve or not? Vote for Romney who has no plan whatsoever other than plowing your middle class butt so far down under you will never see the light of day.

    The work permit authorization will open doors for thousands who would other wise have no career goal other than picking strawberries.
  • ReconMa... Rebel Yell 2012/06/20 17:26:07
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +3
    WTF....Put Illegals in Front Of AMERICANs, for the Few Jobs Out There...
    Not to mention the Hoards that will Now Flood across the Border to take advantage of this, when the Borders are not Being Closed FIRST...
    Our Illegal Problem began in the 80's, when Regan Granted Amnesty to Migrant and Farm Workers, Before Closing The Borders...Floods came across...
    Those Sponsor and Scholarships, are Being Paid For by Taxpayers...at Least here in CA, Not to mention Health Care, thanks to Brown's first act as Gov, again, in 2011, under his Migrant and Farmworker Bill...
    So...You think Illegals Should Come First...????
  • SteveMa... Rebel Yell 2012/06/20 17:35:16
    SteveMarine- JLA
    +3
    I will say ive never heard of our mikitary allowing illegal immigrants...when they wont even accept a guy witg a ged.....but if they do serve I agree they outta be allowed to stay here legally..
  • bman~AVA SteveMa... 2012/06/20 19:41:33
    bman~AVA
    Steve, I agree with you. I "highly doubt" the military would knowingly enlist an illegal and I think what that guy had to say is all b.s! But if that is indeed the case then yes, they "should" be allowed to stay. They've served this country and are deserving of our respect.
  • Centuri... bman~AVA 2012/06/21 17:07:36
    Centurion~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    And if they are being buried, they should do so under United States flags and not a damn buzzard flag.
  • bman~AVA Centuri... 2012/06/21 20:21:56
    bman~AVA
    Yes. I agree.
  • Centuri... SteveMa... 2012/06/21 17:06:29
    Centurion~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    I'll make comment here. About six years ago a young man was killed in Iraq. This was at about the same time frame when illegals were having their marches waving their buzzard flags and demanding special treatment. This young man's funeral was held at the place my wife worked at the time. The Army Honor Guard was there. The VFW Honor Guard which I'm a member of was there. There were VFW, American Legion and other Veteran's Group Dignitaries from all over the state. What really got a lot of us pissed off was when the hearse was opened, a pair of young senoritas held out a mexican flag blocking out the U.S. Flag on the casket. Dammit, if he was there in the U.S. Army, then there should have been U.S. Flags on the poles and covering the casket. The mexican flag should not even have been there.

    There were a lot of "offended" people that day. A funeral is not the place to make their political statement with a buzzard flag.
  • bman~AVA Centuri... 2012/06/21 20:24:24
    bman~AVA
    Man! That's just terrible what they did. I know I would have been plenty upset had I'd of been there and saw that. I wouldn't have gone and made a bunch of waves or anything but I sure wouldn't have been happy at all to see it.
  • Centuri... bman~AVA 2012/06/22 03:25:15
    Centurion~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    We bit our tongues.

    Remember the Alamo!

    tongues remember alamo
  • bman~AVA Centuri... 2012/06/22 03:28:00
    bman~AVA
    Yeah. I hear that o.k.
  • bman~AVA Rebel Yell 2012/06/20 19:38:02
    bman~AVA
    +1
    Are you serious!? Please tell me you're kidding here! You think Romney's plan stinks so bad but yet you support the socialists plan for that work permit authorization??? If you really believe what you just posted then you sir have a real problem. Oh yeah, lets screw over our own citizens that need work and give it away to a bunch of criminals! Hey! I have an idea. Why don't we lock up all of our citizens and let out all of the prisoners that are now in prison. What the heck? Makes as much sense.
  • ReconMa... SteveMa... 2012/06/20 18:38:24
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +2
    Very True...In My time of Military Service..An American Citizen Only...
    I do agree..If they Serve, They Should be Granted Citizenship Upon Completion of Their Military Obligation...
  • bman~AVA SteveMa... 2012/06/20 19:33:23
    bman~AVA
    +1
    That he "is" at that my friend.
  • luvguins 2012/06/20 15:42:28
    luvguins
    +1
    Most will be able to get a better education and contribute to society here in the only country they have known. Perhaps it will induce some spoiled and lazy American kids to get off their video games and smart phones and do the same. Employers with the crap jobs and farmers can't even get Americans to apply or show up if hired, but Mexicans do and are grateful.

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