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stormy rae 2012/05/07 18:25:12
Ron Paul! Hitler cannot even dig up enough votes to stop us!
Is Romney using scare tactics to claim delegate victory, and is the biggest political upset in US History on the Horizon?
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Ron Paul Could Still Win Enough Delegates To Deny Mitt Romney The Republican Nomination

what you may have heard from the mainstream media, Mitt Romney does not
have the Republican nomination locked up. In fact, he is rapidly
losing delegates that almost everyone assumed that he already had in the
bag. To understand why this is happening, you have to understand the
delegate selection process. Each state has different rules for
selecting delegates to the Republican national convention, and in many
states the "voting" done by the public does not determine the allocation
of delegates to particular candidates at all. And the truth is that
delegates are the only thing that really matters in this race. In state
after state, the Ron Paul campaign is focusing on the delegate
selection process with laser-like precision, and it is paying off big
time. At this point, there is still a legitimate chance that Ron Paul
will be able to win
enough delegates to deny Mitt Romney the nomination on the first ballot
at the Republican national convention in Tampa. If Romney does not
have the 1,144 delegates that he needs on the first ballot, then it
becomes a brokered convention and anything becomes possible at that

Sadly, most Americans have no idea how this process really works.

For example, originally we were all told that Mitt Romney won Iowa.

Then, later on we were told that a mistake was made and that Rick Santorum actually won Iowa.

Well, it turns out that Ron Paul actually won 20 out of the 28
delegates in Iowa. That is because the process of actually selecting
the delegates occurred long after the voting by the public was over.

So what happens if the Ron Paul campaign is able to produce similar results in state after state?

The Ron Paul campaign is very organized, very motivated and they understand the rules of the game. As a recent Politico article detailed, there are huge amounts of unbound delegates out there that are still up for grabs....

There are roughly 30 states and territories where
delegates aren’t bound to a particular candidate. The majority of the
other states, according to a number of party officials, call for
delegates to be bound for a first round of balloting but not the ensuing

“The dirty little secret is: At the end of the day, these guys
and gals can vote any way they want,” said a Republican who has attended
national conventions for decades. “Each state has different (laws) on
pledged delegates.”

In many states, the "official" results of voting done by the public
mean next to nothing. The talking heads on television often tell us how
many delegates are "projected" to go to a particular candidate, but as
we have seen in Iowa and in so many other states, those "projections"
are basically meaningless.

A recent Salon article
discussed how the delegate selection process really works and how the
Ron Paul campaign is using these rules to shake up the game....

In many caucus states, the “official” results that
most people saw this winter were from nonbinding straw polls conducted
in conjunction with precinct-level caucuses. But when it comes to
choosing national convention delegates, the real action is at district
caucuses and state conventions. In the past, this distinction hasn’t
mattered much, but for the Paul forces – who lack the numbers
to win statewide primaries but have the devotion to pack any room,
anywhere, at any time – it has offered an inviting loophole. When
turnout is small and no one is looking, the Paul folks can win, and
that’s what’s been happening in a number of states.

To Paul die-hards, this will all culminate in a surprise for the
ages in Tampa, with the political world suddenly realizing that Romney
actually doesn’t have the 1,144 delegates needed to win the nomination,
thereby allowing Paul to extract major concessions or even steal the
nomination for himself.

So could Ron Paul really deny Mitt Romney the Republican nomination?

At this point, nobody really seems to know what the real delegate count is.

Websites such as The Real 2012 Delegate Count
are more accurate than most sources in the mainstream media, but even
that site has been underestimating the true number of Ron Paul

Right now, Mitt Romney is not anywhere close to having the number of
delegates that he needs for the nomination and Ron Paul just keeps
picking up more delegates with each passing week.

For example, a Washington Post article that was posted on Sunday reported that Ron Paul just achieved a stunning delegate victory in Nevada....

Despite former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney’s
overwhelming victory in the Nevada caucuses, Texas Rep. Ron Paul has won
a majority of the state’s delegates to the party’s national convention
later this year in Tampa, Florida.

Thanks to organized Paul supporters, who have been working to
increase their candidate’s support at state conventions around the
country, 22 of the 25 Nevada delegates up for grabs will be Paul
supporters. (Another three are automatic delegates.)

That was a state that Romney supposedly "won".

It looks like Romney has a real problem.

In state after state, Ron Paul is gobbling up delegates. The following are quotes from a recent Huffington Post article about what the Ron Paul campaign has been able to achieve in the past few weeks....

-"Sure enough, Paul has already won 20 out of the 24 delegates
allocated in Minnesota, by winning a majority of the congressional
district contests."

-"In Louisiana, Paulites "dominated" the congressional district
caucuses this past Saturday, according to the New Orleans
Times-Picayune. Paul's supporters carried four of the state's
congressional districts, and are guaranteed at least 17 of 46 delegates
in the Bayou State, with the potential to pick up more at the state
convention on June 2."

-"The other state that Benton likely has his eye on is Colorado,
where the Denver Post reported in mid-April that Paul supporters and
Santorum backers combined forces to win a "stunning upset" at the state
convention, guaranteeing that about half of the state's 33 delegates
will be for Paul in August."

And look what just happened in Maine according to USA Today....

In votes leading to the close of the two-day Maine
convention, Paul supporters were elected to 21 of the 24 delegate spots
from Maine to the GOP national convention in Tampa, Fla.

So Ron Paul is definitely accumulating a huge pile of his own
delegates, but even many so-called "pledged delegates" for Romney could
end up playing a huge role for Ron Paul.

In some states, Ron Paul supporters have been getting elected into
delegate slots that are supposed to go to Romney. This is highly
unusual, and it could really shake things up at the national
convention. As a Salon article
recently explained there will be quite a few Ron Paul supporters that
will actually be going to Tampa "disguised" as Romney delegates....

Besides the pledged delegates he’s won so far and the
extras he’s collecting through caucuses and state conventions, Paul
will also have some supporters disguised as Romney delegates. To
understand how this works, just consider his campaign’s mischief in
Massachusetts, where Romney won 72 percent of the primary vote – and
with it, a monopoly on the state’s pledged convention delegates. But to
determine who would fill those pledged delegate slots, the state GOP
held caucuses recently, and the Paul crowd came out in force, gobbling
up 16 of the 19 available positions. In how many other states will this
happen, or has it already happened?

But those delegates are required to vote for Romney, right?

Not so fast.

The Ron Paul campaign could actually ask those "disguised" Romney
delegates to abstain during the first round of voting in Tampa. If
Romney did not win on the first ballot, those delegates would then
become unbound and would be able to support Ron Paul.

In fact, Ronald Reagan considered using this tactic against Gerald Ford in 1976. The following is from a 1976 article entitled "Reagan Forces May ‘Steal’ Ford Votes"....

“In secret strategy sessions, Reagan aides have toyed
with the idea of asking delegates to abstain as long as their state laws
require them to honor the primary verdicts. This would prevent the
President from riding up an early-ballot victory. Then, in subsequent
ballots, they could legally switch to Reagan.

Delegates have abstained from voting before. Back in 2008, at least
14 delegates abstained from voting at the Republican national

So what would happen if the Ron Paul campaign was able to get 100 or
150 "Romney delegates" to abstain from voting during the first ballot in

That is a very intriguing question.

And remember, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich also have significant numbers of delegates pledged to each of them.

So Ron Paul does not need to accumulate 1,144 delegates himself to deny Mitt Romney the nomination on the first ballot. He just needs to keep Romney from getting to 1,144.

The race for the Republican nomination is not over.

You can find a state by state breakdown of delegate voting rules right here.

It is not too late to get involved.

If nobody gets to 1,144 on the first ballot in Tampa, it becomes a "brokered convention" and anyone can become the nominee - even someone that is not running right now.

So if you are not satisfied with Mitt Romney as the Republican nominee, don't lose hope yet.

The game is still being played.

It would be a challenge, but if his supporters get energized enough,
it certainly is possible that Ron Paul could still win enough delegates
to deny Mitt Romney the Republican nomination on the first ballot in

And if that happens, anything is possible.

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  • Savior 2012/05/07 19:01:01
    Im leaving the country, I already booked my flight, so the election does not ...
    Not really i'm moving to New Hampshire to be a part of the free state project. Because if we can't influence the election we must should that liberty works on the state-level.
  • Gregaj7 2012/05/07 18:47:21
    Ron Paul! Hitler cannot even dig up enough votes to stop us!
  • stormy rae 2012/05/07 18:26:44
    Is Romney using scare tactics to claim delegate victory, and is the biggest p...
    stormy rae
    I am still voting for Ron Paul, I believe we are on the verge of the biggest political upset in the History of the US!
  • Savior stormy rae 2012/05/07 19:02:41
    Well thus far it was Abraham Lincoln's win, then in the primaries it was Warren G. Harding, just Harding wasn't a very good president.

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