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What is "Social Justice"?

Gracie - Proud Conservative 2012/06/30 22:01:02
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It's everywhere, it's everywhere! You hear it, you see it, they talk about it, but do you really know what it is?

Give me a short synopsis of what you think it is.
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  • Dwight-... Torchma... 2012/07/01 16:17:55
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    +1
    Which has it's own form of "injustice", yes.
  • MarinerFH 2012/06/30 23:24:53
    MarinerFH
    +11
    Fair reward for hard work and self reliance.

    Remember the fable of the Ant and the Grasshopper? Obama's Social Justice is to take the hard earned goods of the ant and give them to the sluggard grasshopper.

    ant and grasshopper
  • Gracie ... MarinerFH 2012/07/01 00:55:37
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +4
    I love the ant and the grasshopper! Such a simple concept but I just went to dinner and had to argue with a young guy about how great this decision wasn't! They have been indoctrinated to the hilt!
  • MarinerFH Gracie ... 2012/07/01 01:55:48
    MarinerFH
    +3
    Yes, they have. It began with LBJ's so called "War On Poverty" and has gotten progressively worse ever since.

    They have also been indoctrinated toward abortion and homosexuality.
  • Walt 2012/06/30 23:10:09 (edited)
    Walt
    +14
    "Social justice" is when crimes or infractions are ignored when they're committed by special classes of citizens who are deemed to be downtrodden by liberals. This means they are exempt from the full weight of prosecution.

    IMO, affirmative action and ignoring the illegal alien invasion are directly related to "social justice."
  • Gracie ... Walt 2012/07/01 00:57:57
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +3
    Good analogy, it's Justitia, aka Lady Justice who had to remove the blindfold and the scales to see who she was judging!
  • txtumlin Walt 2012/07/01 06:28:53 (edited)
    txtumlin
    +3
    "WORD". ;)
  • Dwight-... Walt 2012/07/01 16:18:49
  • beavith1 2012/06/30 23:01:15
    beavith1
    +10
    it's whatever democrats think that it is.
  • WhereIs... beavith1 2012/06/30 23:41:40
    WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA
    +9
    Which is whatever the U.N. thinks it is.
  • Rusty Shackleford 2012/06/30 23:01:01
    Rusty Shackleford
    +11
    It's sticking it to the white man.
  • JanHopkins 2012/06/30 23:00:00
    JanHopkins
    +11
    A fairy tale told by people who want power over you.
  • MarinerFH JanHopkins 2012/06/30 23:48:14
    MarinerFH
    +5
    Excellent point. Tks.
  • Gracie ... JanHopkins 2012/07/01 00:59:00
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +2
    You can put the term in whatever you want to sound morally superior!
  • Zippcodey 2012/06/30 22:50:43
    Zippcodey
    +11
    How Socialism Works:

    An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had once failed an entire class.

    That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class......." All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A.
    After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little. The second test average was a D! No one was happy.

    When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great but when government takes all the reward ...




































    How Socialism Works:

    An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had once failed an entire class.

    That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class......." All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A.
    After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little. The second test average was a D! No one was happy.

    When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
    SOCIAL REFORM / JUSTICE.
    What the liberals and the Catholic Church are pushing is called SOCIAL JUSTICE (or SOCIAL REFORM) which the Vatican started that term in the 1800’s

    Socialism is an economic system characterized by public ownership and centralized planning of all major industries (manufacturing, services, and energy), banks and insurance companies, agribusiness, transportation, the media, and medical facilities. Socialism prioritizes human needs and eliminates the profit motive that drives war, ecological destruction, and inequalities based on gender, race, nationality and sexuality. Socialism must be international so that global resources can be shared. No country can be truly independent of the global economy. Socialism has no room for unborn babies, old people, and the disabled, because they are not assets but a debit, to Socialism proprietorship. That's why the healthcare system has death counseling for old people and probably for the disabled too, or anyone when they get too expensive to take care of, it's time for you to go. Then of coarse, babies being aborted.

    Is this not Obama's message and what he is up to? They are purposely and systematically destroying everything that is good in this country. In just the year and a half Obama has been President, they have taken over the banks, auto industry, college tuitions, child nutrition, and now health care, even now the first steps of controlling housing. Ask yourself this: Why did they push healthcare before jobs, since people won‘t be able to pay for healthcare without jobs? If you notice all the new jobs are mostly government ones. Highway, Railroad, Nuclear Energy, Waterways. Now they want more IRS people, Census takers, think about it. As of February 2011, John Boehner says Obama has made 200,000 new federal government jobs. Answer: Because they are trying to take over all the businesses and bring them under government control too. Where you will get paid by the U.S. Treasury Department. That way government can control you from before birth, (since they passed abortion laws) to death. So if you die at birth or at whatever age, they will control it completely. You will also lose parental rights to your children, Hillary Clinton is making sure of that, government will control everything.

    Hillary Clinton and Obama are trying to get the Supreme Court and the U.N. to take the guns away from Americans.They are out to destroy our Constitution, which protects the American Citizen from the government. They want to get rid of the Bill of Rights, so you have no rights. They want to get rid of State Constitutions, so States have no rights. We have a bunch of Marxist, Communist, Fascist, Liberal, Radical, Socialist people in our government today. In a Socialist Society the leaders have all the money not the people.

    "Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed." Sara Brady, Chairman, Handgun Control, to Sen. Howard Metzenbaum, The National Educator, January 1994, Page 3.



    THEIR 5 STEPS TO DESTRUCTION.

    The way a country is taken over is:

    1. They get rid of morality.

    2. They turn the people against each other.

    2. They take your guns.

    3. They take your freedoms.

    4. The country is taken over from within or without, ours is being taken over from within.

    "Capitalists" and the Communist Dimension

    The ultimate object of the parties of the Socialist International is nothing less than world government. As a first step towards it, they seek to strengthen the United Nations....

    — Declaration of the Socialist International 1962 Conference, Oslo, Norway

    The conflict between the two great superpowers ... will be replaced by the USDR (a union of socialist democratic republics). This will be a penultimate stage of progress toward a truly global world federal union...."5
    — Professor Mortimer Adler, socialist, author, 1991

    The Vatican has national relations with about 170 some countries and is also the only non-member to have permanent observer status at the U.N. ( I've read in a couple places where the Pope is actually over the U.N.) The Pope told the Western Europe countries that they need to unite under their religious roots of Christianity and to change over to Socialism, this is exactly what the E.U. has done. The E.U. pays a CHURCH TAX just for Catholics for now. So who is behind all this, does not take a rocket scientist to know.
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  • momma-o... Zippcodey 2012/07/01 00:26:22
    momma-on-the-hit-list
    +3
    Can I copy your post and "see" if the blind can see it clearly? If this was a court case the GUILTY verdict would be crashing down, but some ignore the facts. Hopefully they will see even with their eyes closed.
  • Zippcodey momma-o... 2012/07/01 03:04:46 (edited)
    Zippcodey
    +3
    You sure can, I can go a whole lot deeper on what is really going on.

    “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. ”
    ― Margaret Thatcher

    “Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money.”
    ― Margaret Thatcher

    “There are significant differences between the American and European version of capitalism. The American traditiionally emphasizes the need for limited government, light regulations, low taxes and maximum labour-market flexibility. Its success has ben shown above all in the ability to creqte new jobs, in which it is consistently more successful than Europe.”
    ― Margaret Thatcher, The Path To Power

    “Being democratic is not enough, to a majority cannot turn what is wrong into right. In order to be considered truly free, countries must also have a deep love of liberty and an abiding respect for the rule of law.”
    ― Margaret Thatcher

    “As Prime Minister between 1979 and 1990 I had the opportunity to put these convictions into effect in economic policy -
    We intended policy in the 1980s to be directed towards fundamentally different goals from those of most of the post-war ear. We believed that since jobs (in a free society) did not depend on government but upon satisfying customers, there was no point in setting targets for 'full' ...
    You sure can, I can go a whole lot deeper on what is really going on.

    “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. ”
    ― Margaret Thatcher

    “Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money.”
    ― Margaret Thatcher

    “There are significant differences between the American and European version of capitalism. The American traditiionally emphasizes the need for limited government, light regulations, low taxes and maximum labour-market flexibility. Its success has ben shown above all in the ability to creqte new jobs, in which it is consistently more successful than Europe.”
    ― Margaret Thatcher, The Path To Power

    “Being democratic is not enough, to a majority cannot turn what is wrong into right. In order to be considered truly free, countries must also have a deep love of liberty and an abiding respect for the rule of law.”
    ― Margaret Thatcher

    “As Prime Minister between 1979 and 1990 I had the opportunity to put these convictions into effect in economic policy -
    We intended policy in the 1980s to be directed towards fundamentally different goals from those of most of the post-war ear. We believed that since jobs (in a free society) did not depend on government but upon satisfying customers, there was no point in setting targets for 'full' employment. Instead, government should create the right framework of sound money, low taxes, light regulation and flexible markets (including labour markets) to allow prosperity and employment to grow.”
    ― Margaret Thatcher, The Path To Power
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  • momma-o... Zippcodey 2012/07/01 16:24:31
    momma-on-the-hit-list
    +2
    Why Thank you Zippy! Always like to ask first, I have so many bookmarks I wish I could go in with my fingers and place them all in order, your's is so neatly done.
  • Zippcodey momma-o... 2012/07/01 16:47:07 (edited)
    Zippcodey
    +2
    You're welcome, thanks for the compliment.
  • txtumlin Zippcodey 2012/07/01 06:36:55
    txtumlin
    +2
    Chock full of good information Zipp - thanks!
  • Zippcodey txtumlin 2012/07/01 16:49:02
    Zippcodey
    +2
    Thank you very much.
  • Icono1 Zippcodey 2012/07/01 11:57:07
    Icono1
    +3
    Great analysis.
  • Zippcodey Icono1 2012/07/01 16:59:25
    Zippcodey
    +3
    Thank you, people need to wake up and watch, plus study to what is really going on and why.
  • Icono1 Zippcodey 2012/07/01 22:48:05
    Icono1
    +2
    No truer words spoken.
  • Waldorf 2012/06/30 22:48:55
    Waldorf
    +4
    Having a country upon which other cultures and powers are not entitled to intrude. Within those boundaries, the country defines its own justice. Israel is a good example.
  • Gracie ... Waldorf 2012/07/01 01:02:23
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +1
    There are no borders within the realm of social justice.
  • Waldorf Gracie ... 2012/07/01 12:17:58
    Waldorf
    +1
    You would think so, with the UN human rights fascists sticking their noses in only in small powerless countries, and with Obama sending drones in whenever it suits him, but social justice is each sovereign nation's affair, within their own legal system. We know this because we not only don't interfere in Sharia law, but we entertain the notion of allowing Muslims to bring their legal system into the US with them.
  • momma-o... Gracie ... 2012/07/01 16:59:10
    momma-on-the-hit-list
    +1
    Not even for them, they eat their own.
  • RogerRover 2012/06/30 22:45:50
    RogerRover
    +11
    One more word for communism. (except it sounds better) Forced social issues by anything but a benign government. C'mon, let's share the wealth (pay more taxes) C'mon. let's don't tell the truth, it's offensive (political correctness) Social justice, sounds good, but it is being pushed by some very hard core leftists. They ALWAYS mislabel what they try to sell.
  • txtumlin RogerRover 2012/07/01 06:40:56
    txtumlin
    +2
    I Roger that, over and out! :D
  • momma-o... RogerRover 2012/07/01 16:57:04
    momma-on-the-hit-list
    +1
    What we are witnessing daily with this bunch is called Hegelian Dialectic Method. I love the comment at the bottom of the page, copied here. I feel this is the base of every PC garbage if you follow it to it's core. It is Anti- (add what you want), "morality" "Creator" "absolute" etc. They make the rules as they go.
    http://broodsphilosophy.wordp...
    Perhaps an antithesis for Hegel is divine revelation a la Christian theism (general and special), this however is an antithesis that allows no synthesis. The most internally consistent forms of Christian theism deal with universals and particulars ontologically and analogically. It is protected from the general trend in philosophy to either monism or atomism, where either particulars are swallowed whole in systems that deny universals, or universals are chopped to bits in systems that say there are no pieces. Does it make sense to deal with non-being in abstraction? Why not consider being analogically? Hegel’s assertions assume a lot, for instance how it is the we might make inquiry of the universal to begin with, i.e. what are the neccessary preconditions explaining the thought as a tool of inquiry? Where does language come from? How does meaning transcend words and is yet mediated by them? Such concepts are consistently dealt...
    What we are witnessing daily with this bunch is called Hegelian Dialectic Method. I love the comment at the bottom of the page, copied here. I feel this is the base of every PC garbage if you follow it to it's core. It is Anti- (add what you want), "morality" "Creator" "absolute" etc. They make the rules as they go.
    http://broodsphilosophy.wordp...
    Perhaps an antithesis for Hegel is divine revelation a la Christian theism (general and special), this however is an antithesis that allows no synthesis. The most internally consistent forms of Christian theism deal with universals and particulars ontologically and analogically. It is protected from the general trend in philosophy to either monism or atomism, where either particulars are swallowed whole in systems that deny universals, or universals are chopped to bits in systems that say there are no pieces. Does it make sense to deal with non-being in abstraction? Why not consider being analogically? Hegel’s assertions assume a lot, for instance how it is the we might make inquiry of the universal to begin with, i.e. what are the neccessary preconditions explaining the thought as a tool of inquiry? Where does language come from? How does meaning transcend words and is yet mediated by them? Such concepts are consistently dealt with within an explicitly Trinitarian framework, which considers all that there is in the cosmos to be a created reality, which is revalatory in nature; as such it speaks of God, with human kind as a special speach-act of God. Thought, language, meaning, love proceed ontologically from God to His creation.
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  • Gracie ... momma-o... 2012/07/01 19:07:07
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +1
    Every evil progressive thought can be trace back directly or indirectly to Hegel. Most Progressive intellectuals were trained in Germany, hence evil was transported through the university and education.
  • momma-o... Gracie ... 2012/07/03 01:21:43
    momma-on-the-hit-list
    +1
    That is so true, go farther, it is connected to Lucifer worship.
  • The River Rat 2012/06/30 22:39:17
    The River Rat
    +14
    It is a lie fabricated by the left to steal from working people to give to worthless bums.
  • MarinerFH The Riv... 2012/06/30 23:49:01
    MarinerFH
    +4
    Well put. Thanks.
  • Icono1 2012/06/30 22:38:22
    Icono1
    +9
    the following from the Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engels.

    Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
    A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

    Abolition of all right of inheritance.

    Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

    Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

    Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.

    Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

    Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
    Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country.

    Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form and combination of education with industrial production
  • Kanaka Rican - Now's the ti... 2012/06/30 22:28:38
    Kanaka Rican - Now's the time for ACTION
    +11
    It's code word to deceive those who are uninformed, promising them equality while they profit off of them. It is injustice in every sense! It places people of their choice in categories, pitting them against those they didn't choose in the name of equality...the dirty little secret is how equal is it when you are given special treatment according to skin color, gender or sexual preference?
  • Obama Failed Soda Head Chie... 2012/06/30 22:26:38 (edited)
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    +11
    What is social justice and what does it mean?

    The theory that implies and justifies the practice of socialism.



    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/06/30 22:21:55
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +14
    Highway robbery! Brigandage masquerading as charity! Whoever invented the concept of charity at the point of a gun, is guilty of the bloodiest fraud perpetrated upon men.
  • Icono1 Temlako... 2012/07/01 11:54:51
    Icono1
    +1
    Nice definition.

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