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What is a true conservative and what do we stand for?

The conservative Party is going in many different directions.We need each other. I will list some scary facts. 14.5 million Democrates voted on super tues. 8.5 million Republicans. Do you want Obama in the white house? or Hillary. Can we get behind McCain and tell him what we want? We are all upset about our choices now. Do we stand together or let the dems have 2008.
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  • +2 raves mary February 14, 2008 03:42:57
    mary
    THANKS TO ALL THE GREAT CONSERVATIVE AMERICANS!!!!! GOD BLESS!!!!!!!!!!
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    Justy Hakubi April 27, 2008 00:41:05 (edited)
    Justy Hakubi
    Well as an independent conservative I see your point. I think by and far we do stick together. That doesn't mean however following blindly behind the GOP. The GOP really screwed up by nominating him. McCain was not my first choice, nor my second. I have serious issues with the man. I don't trust him. That doesn't mean that I won't support him on certain issues. However, as a conservative I don't know how much dissing I can take from the man. If his veep is some RINO country clubber or another pro-amnesty guy then I honestly don't know if I can vote for him.

    I'm not a republican. I quit the party last year. I'm an un-enrolled conservative. The party elites really upset me when they tried to cram amnesty down our throats. Now they nominate McCain who is correct on two things the war and abortion. McCain says he's for lower taxes, but he throws in with the eco-nuts and is pushing a Carbon Tax. He did not support Bush on ANWR. I don't trust who he'll nominate for the Supreme Court. I'm guessing it will be a better nominee than than Hillary or Barak.

    I want to support McCain. I want to give him a chance, but with his recent history... Plus he is way too concerned being politically correct. That is annoying me to heck.

    So Mary, I do see your point, but the GOP is moving away from me. I'm not changing my views just to make the blue bloods happy.
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    mary Justy H... April 27, 2008 01:13:47
    mary
    I am not voting for Mccain, I am voting against the socialists. I dont follow blindly, but I also feel the Christian right is a large portion of the republicans. Many people I know do not want to legislate morality and dont like that part of the party. That is where I think we need to come together, not divide. God help this Country.
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    Justy H... mary April 27, 2008 01:39:38
    Justy Hakubi
    I understand this point. I think that the evangelicals and the nationalist / traditionalist wings of the party have folded ranks behind country clubbers to oppose the democrats. Primarily because the democrats couldn't have run two worse candidates.

    As for the whole legislating morality bit, I think that is an over generalization by moral relativists. We all have our opinions on what is right and wrong. I don't punch a straight ticket on "moral" issues. I think that any group of conservatives would be hard pressed to agree on everything. So when fellow republicans start saying that its code for just keep my taxes low and leave me alone.

    But, hey, we'll see what happens. Basically, as long as McCain doesn't do anything awfully stupid I'll vote for him. I can see my polling station from my window so its not like I have to go out of my way to vote.

    And yes, God help this country.
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    Rover™ ... mary July 02, 2008 19:15:16
    Rover™ - Standing TALL for America!!
    I will only speak for myself. I am a conservative Christian. Moral 'relativism' is destrying our party and our country. People no longer want to be thought of as 'rigid' or 'inflexable... but in truth there IS black and white - right or wrong. God's laws will trump man's pluralistic view of "you do your thing and I'll do mine, and we'll both get to Heaven".

    It's time to stand up and get real... conservatism is not dead, not wrong, not taking te country in the wrong direction. It's the 'right' thing to do... that's why they call it 'right'.
  • sarik April 22, 2008 17:42:00
    sarik
    As a good conservative you obviously don't believe in Social Security (voluntarily give yours up!) ...you believe the the rich should get infinitely rich and fuck the poor. (What does your religion say about that?) Women should not be allowed to have control over their bodies. That's for the state to regulate! AND the US should invade all countries that don't believe in letting us pillage their natural resources. NUMBER ONE! USA! NUMBER ONE! And gays should not be allowed to live among us at all.
    Yay conservative values.
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    mary sarik April 22, 2008 20:04:19
    mary
    What the hell are you talking about? I have gay people in my family. I think they should have civil unions not marriage. I believe we should be able to take a portion of our SSI and invest to make more money if you dont want to leave it in SSI. My religion states not to kill innocent. Conservatives dont want the goverment in their bodies, the gov. should not be killing babies, and using my tax dollars to do it. You have not a clue what conservatives stand for. STOP LISTENING TO MAIN STREAM MEDIA its making you look like you dont have a clue.
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    mary sarik April 22, 2008 20:15:07
    mary
    I am sorry, you are probably a liberal and did not know there is a difference between conservative and republican. Conservatives dont want the goverment involved in our everyday lives ie,bedroom,Dr. appt.,wallets,Churches. Republicans want more control over our morals, no doubt because most people dont have them anymore. Your party has been taken over too. Hollywood freaks the flag-burning type,Hate America ones. We need a strong leader and the 3 running are a joke. I will just say I do think Mccain has served his country with honor.
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    Robert sarik July 02, 2008 15:16:13
    Robert
    You are just simply out of your mind with your absurd liberal comments. You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in your liberal butt.

    Conservatives...
    * respect the Godly institute of marriage.
    * protect the rights of the unborn who cannot speak for him/herself.
    * protect the rights of countries that have been attacked by oppressive dictators.
    * protect gays from discrimination -- but recognize that marriage is ordained by God and that God abhors homosexuality.
    And...where do you get your crazy idea that the US is "pillaging" the natural resources of other countries and that that is why we have responded to Sadaam's attack against Kuwait and taken action against Sadaam for violating the terms of peace -- violating 17 UN resolutions and shooting at US warplanes - among others?
    You are just out of your mind... perhaps you need to get some counseling?
  • mary Robert July 02, 2008 18:16:44
    mary
    Thanks Robert, I think people are brainwashed by the main stream media. When republicans vote against stuff like school lunches it just voting for a unreasonable increase and the media makes it look like republicans are starving poor young kids. I have to laugh when I hear crap like that but I know there are thousands who believe that s--t.
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    Silverback April 04, 2008 21:42:59
    Silverback
    I stand for God, family and my country. If you have read a bit of what I have written you know I also call like minded people to stand together. You have a very nice list going on that Feb 13th piece you have. Hang in there.
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    edgar March 18, 2008 02:24:26
    edgar
    Don't worry about Obama Mary, he's not going to win.
  • Robert edgar July 02, 2008 15:17:31
    Robert
    I said the same thing about clinton I'm afraid.
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    mary February 14, 2008 03:42:57
    mary
    THANKS TO ALL THE GREAT CONSERVATIVE AMERICANS!!!!! GOD BLESS!!!!!!!!!!
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    mary February 14, 2008 03:32:22
    mary
    I wanted to list some of the issues that I feel are the core of the conservative party let me know if you agree. 1.Less Goverment. 2.Right to keep Guns 3.Capitalism 4.strong Millitary 5.English official language 6.Border safety. The US should only grant citizenship to those who want to embrace American values and culture! 7.Keep God in the pledge,money,American history, and the Delclaration of Independance. 8. give rewards to companies and individuals that invent creative ways to solve Pollution,dispose of nuclear waste,cut carbon emissions ect. Who do you think will stand up for these issues?
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    Marco mary February 16, 2008 05:36:23
    Marco
    As an addendum. What is more important...winning the election or assuring Conservative values are re-infused into our governance and society?
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    mary Marco February 16, 2008 05:59:11
    mary
    I thank you for your thoughts, I dont know what to do. I dont want mccain to get it. He doesn't represent the conservative party. Obama is a true socialist and I am very scared of his agenda. Do you think the left has moved to the loony and the right has moved to the middle? and there are just not as many true conservatives left in this county?
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    Marco mary February 16, 2008 18:59:29
    Marco
    There are many that think like we do but they have permitted themselves to be labeled as either a Republican or Democrat. That is why I believe that we discuss what we believe in not whether we can be conveniently stuffed into one of two categories. I know many kind and decent people throughout the political spectrum that are truly disenfranchised by the two-party system because it is a "take it or leave it" , one size fits all approach, just exactly diametric to what was initially envisioned by our founders. Politically, most southern Democrats lean heavily toward Conservative values just like New York Republicans are quite liberal in thought and action (RE: Mayor Bloomberg).

    It took a squabble between two individuals on a single issue seeking popular support that gave rise to the "you are with me or against me" approach to an all-encompassing two-party system. What we have now are, politicians that become nearly manipulated by aides, advisers and special interests that do not attempt to formulate or, for the most part, influence public policy unless in power. It is more important to throw darts at the opposite party without uncovering how you would do something.

    Certainly those ideas previously discussed by Senator Obama are socialist and, in the heat of the primaries, he...







    There are many that think like we do but they have permitted themselves to be labeled as either a Republican or Democrat. That is why I believe that we discuss what we believe in not whether we can be conveniently stuffed into one of two categories. I know many kind and decent people throughout the political spectrum that are truly disenfranchised by the two-party system because it is a "take it or leave it" , one size fits all approach, just exactly diametric to what was initially envisioned by our founders. Politically, most southern Democrats lean heavily toward Conservative values just like New York Republicans are quite liberal in thought and action (RE: Mayor Bloomberg).

    It took a squabble between two individuals on a single issue seeking popular support that gave rise to the "you are with me or against me" approach to an all-encompassing two-party system. What we have now are, politicians that become nearly manipulated by aides, advisers and special interests that do not attempt to formulate or, for the most part, influence public policy unless in power. It is more important to throw darts at the opposite party without uncovering how you would do something.

    Certainly those ideas previously discussed by Senator Obama are socialist and, in the heat of the primaries, he wants to be attractive to the centrists in his party as well as the left wing of the Republican Party. President Clinton, in his early life, was certainly far more liberal than he professed during the elections. He was held farther to the right by the 1994 Congress who pushed popular initiatives, to include reduced spending, which enabled this country to reduce deficit. As a mast of popular opinion, he adeptly garnered credit for much that was accomplished.

    The question you have to ask is exactly how bad is the economy, will it worsen during the next four years and whether I want my affiliation tied to it. I am afraid that inaction by those who govern the past six years will lead to continued economic slide and most certainly it will worsen with heavier tax burden.

    Yes, the country continues to slide to the left, not because of fewer conservatives but because of fewer willing to represent conservative values in Congress. Each time I hear "reaching across the aisle" I know that something is being sacrificed. The Republican Party success, and for that matter the country's success, has rested on adhering to proven conservative values. The Party's most recent demise has occurred because many in the Party did not adhere to those principles.

    Another part of the equation is the redistricting, which by all factors, is not being constitutionally implemented, but driven by party politics. The existing redistricting virtually assures the incumbent will remain in their seat. Another reason for creating a viable alternative choices (either left or right) which would most likely siphon sufficient votes away from the Democrat and Republican Parties as to cause extensive concern. This may take two or three election cycles to become effective but it will create some immediate impact as to forwarding an agenda.

    I believe that the most effective way of tackling these issues is to inform using facts. For example the Constitutional right to bear arms. Unfortunately, the argument changes frequently but most importantly, they continue to blame guns for killing, not people. I won't get into the other details used to continue the disarmament of Americans. Getting Americans re-educated and teaching critical thinking is imperative.
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    edgar mary March 18, 2008 02:40:32
    edgar
    Things might change a bit. But we are more positive about our country than the LIBS.
    Have faith than those who hate us and what we stand. They will never sacrifice as much as we are willing to sacrifice.They are cowards, and as always they stand on the wrong side of history. We need to stand up, but we should not stand against our own side because we don't see eye to eye on every issue. This is what the other side wants to see. let us not cut our noses in spite of our face.
  • Robert mary July 02, 2008 15:18:54
    Robert
    We need to do what it takes to keep the Republican Party in power, both in the white house and in Congress. Vote for the platform that best represents your values --
  • Rover™ ... mary July 02, 2008 19:22:00
    Rover™ - Standing TALL for America!!
    There are true conservatives left... we're beat down and bloody, but we're still here and COMING BACK!

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