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What happened to War?

Kyra 2010/12/03 19:33:29

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What happened to War?
People are bombing homes and villages rather than lining up in battle fields. Women and children are dying each day... there should be rules of war when it comes to protecting the innocent people caught in crossfire.


Psalm 120

6
Too long have I lived
among those who hate peace.
7 I am for peace;
but when I speak, they are for war.

Psalm 140


1 Rescue me, LORD, from evildoers;
protect me from the violent,
2 who devise evil plans in their hearts
and stir up war every day.


Hosea 10


12
Sow righteousness for yourselves,
reap the fruit of unfailing love,
and break up your unplowed ground;
for it is time to seek the LORD,
until he comes
and showers his righteousness on you.
13But you have planted wickedness,
you have reaped evil,
you have eaten the fruit of deception.
Because you have depended on your own strength
and on your many warriors
,
14 the roar of battle will rise against your people,
so that all your fortresses will be devastated—

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  • wpsark_BN_0 2010/12/03 19:38:25
    wpsark_BN_0
    +5
    That's why this "war on terror" should be an elite force/intelligence operation...They should also provide refuges for the innocent people who don't want to harbor the terrorists in their village, after all, the terrorists are killing them too.

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  • brutusin~ Proud Apetheist 2012/08/03 12:40:26
    brutusin~ Proud Apetheist
    +1
    It became impersonal. They are no longer people but targets. We don't really feel the damage we cause.
  • bags the Indigenous Guru 2012/06/19 19:39:33
    bags the Indigenous Guru
    +2
    War became impersonal. Once upon a time in the history of Man, you had to looks a man in the eyes before you took his life. The bow couldn't fight a war by itself, it was only one tactical weapon.

    But now, the enemy doesn't wear uniforms, we use unmanned drones operated half a word away by a kid who was great at video games. A bomb kills millions. And war seems to affect only the families of those fighting it - and the innocents that are considered 'collateral damage'.
  • TykeLad101 2012/06/19 16:09:20
    TykeLad101
    +3
    the honour has gone from war, there used to be honour in fighting no more though
  • Willie 2012/06/15 22:19:37
    Willie
    +1
    Corporations are not people, and they have no humanity. They have only one purpose - profits. That's why they will wage wars with no morality. That's why they wage wars at all. Countries have little to do with it, except that the nominal rulers of countries volunteer their armies to do the bidding of the corporations that own them.
  • James 2012/02/12 02:30:40
    James
    +1
    "It seems like such a terrible shame that innocent civilians have to get hurt in wars, otherwise combat would be such a wonderfully healthy way to rid the human race of unneeded trash."

    --Fred Woodworth
  • relic 2012/02/10 19:30:48
    relic
    +1
    Tell the muslims to stop hiding behind women and children.
  • Wolfman 2012/02/10 15:05:32
    Wolfman
    +2
    Nothing has changed. We bombed civilian targets in both Germany and Japan. So did they.
  • XENON23 2012/02/10 09:07:19
    XENON23
    Fear of nukes?
  • Kyra XENON23 2012/02/10 09:13:41
    Kyra
    I fear nothing.... I have faith.
  • XENON23 Kyra 2012/02/10 09:57:58
    XENON23
    I do not me you but the rest of the world...those with out faith.

    But thanks.
  • Flea 2011/10/25 03:47:59
    Flea
    +1
    Unfortunately, a "gentlemanly war" is a war you cannot win, because the people who are in power, i.e., the people who are the problem, aren't willing to get into the boxing ring, because they -gasp- might die. Example- look at what happened with Ghadafi. If you really believe that a wonderful, honest, giving leader is going to take his place, you're deluding yourself. Because power corrupts, all the way down to the rent-a-cop level.
    The Who said it best: Meet the new boss/same as the old boss.....
  • DennisSwanson 2011/10/24 23:38:28
    DennisSwanson
    +2
    The bloodthirsty filth who have highjacked our government have absolutely no interest in peace. They believe that there is no profit in it.
  • flaca BN-0 2011/10/24 18:13:53
    flaca BN-0
    +1
    The "wars" we have now are a little different than the wars of the past. Then it was a country vs a country and there was a battlefield of sorts. Now our wars are either against a group of people that shelter in a country that we're not at war with or against a leader who is committing genocide.
    In Afghanistan we couldn't have a battlefield because AQ lived in the mountains and our vehicles couldn't cope with them. The roads through the mountains are in the valleys between so we would be sitting ducks (which has already happened for some convoys).

    But I agree with the premise of your question.
  • SovereignX 2010/12/11 05:06:36
    SovereignX
    +1
    i thought the definition of war was when TWO or more armies were fighting, not one army and a band of disorganized sand-dwellers
  • Kyra SovereignX 2010/12/11 06:41:57
  • blue sharpie 2010/12/06 21:25:40
    blue sharpie
    +1
    I totally agree. War is not what the people of the country should be in, they just caught in it and it shouldnt happen
  • Adam 2010/12/06 00:29:52 (edited)
    Adam
    To tell you the truth war has always killed men, women, and children.
    Deuteronomy 2:31-34 - 31The LORD said to me, “See, I have begun to deliver Sihon and his country over to you. Now begin to conquer and possess his land.” 32 When Sihon and all his army came out to meet us in battle at Jahaz, 33 the LORD our God delivered him over to us and we struck him down, together with his sons and his whole army. 34 At that time we took all his towns and completely destroyed[a] them—men, women and children. We left no survivors.

    Deuteronomy 3:3-7 - 3 So the LORD our God also gave into our hands Og king of Bashan and all his army. We struck them down, leaving no survivors. 4 At that time we took all his cities. There was not one of the sixty cities that we did not take from them—the whole region of Argob, Og’s kingdom in Bashan. 5 All these cities were fortified with high walls and with gates and bars, and there were also a great many unwalled villages. 6 We completely destroyed[a] them, as we had done with Sihon king of Heshbon, destroying[b] every city—men, women and children. 7 But all the livestock and the plunder from their cities we carried off for ourselves.

    Joshua 11:14 - 14 The Israelites carried off for themselves all the plunder and livestock of these cities, but all the peopl...



    To tell you the truth war has always killed men, women, and children.
    Deuteronomy 2:31-34 - 31The LORD said to me, “See, I have begun to deliver Sihon and his country over to you. Now begin to conquer and possess his land.” 32 When Sihon and all his army came out to meet us in battle at Jahaz, 33 the LORD our God delivered him over to us and we struck him down, together with his sons and his whole army. 34 At that time we took all his towns and completely destroyed[a] them—men, women and children. We left no survivors.

    Deuteronomy 3:3-7 - 3 So the LORD our God also gave into our hands Og king of Bashan and all his army. We struck them down, leaving no survivors. 4 At that time we took all his cities. There was not one of the sixty cities that we did not take from them—the whole region of Argob, Og’s kingdom in Bashan. 5 All these cities were fortified with high walls and with gates and bars, and there were also a great many unwalled villages. 6 We completely destroyed[a] them, as we had done with Sihon king of Heshbon, destroying[b] every city—men, women and children. 7 But all the livestock and the plunder from their cities we carried off for ourselves.

    Joshua 11:14 - 14 The Israelites carried off for themselves all the plunder and livestock of these cities, but all the people they put to the sword until they completely destroyed them, not sparing anyone that breathed.



    and so on. War is a horrible and petty thing that usually originates from Jealousy, difference in religious/political beliefs, and fear. Once we can put these primitive trappings behind us the better off we will be.
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  • ImgonaluvAztroBoi4eva 2010/12/05 05:25:52
    ImgonaluvAztroBoi4eva
    +2
    So sad still... War has always been the same, the innocents suffer the most, but now there is higher population and more sophisticated weaponry...
  • wtw 2010/12/04 18:53:26
    wtw
    +2
    The best quote I remember is the one by Sherman in the civil war, "War is hell". The worst kind of war is the one we are fighting currently.
  • vannuck 2010/12/04 17:25:41
    vannuck
    +1
    Fact of life War never Changes it always has been and always will be brutal.....
  • Edible_toad 2010/12/04 10:12:18
    Edible_toad
    +3
    Modern warfare is evolving.
    I think there are some restrictions, such as chemical warfare, anyway.
    I however believe this saying.
    "I do not know what the third world war will be fought with, but the fourth will be with sticks and stones."
  • Prime Time Lime 2010/12/04 03:53:12
    Prime Time Lime
    +1
    There should be strict rules of engagement,such as wars only fought on designated battlegrounds like in the days of old.As soon as battles take place inside the civilian population it is a crime to society.Look at what happened in Japan when bombs dropped on the civilian society(a crime),Korea,Vietnam,Iraq,Afg... The fighting must stop for nothing is accomplished and USA comes across as warmongers.
  • GINGERBREAD 2010/12/04 03:37:00
    GINGERBREAD
    What the hell do you think the muslim whackos are doing? They are killing any body that gets in the way of a world wide Caliph. Old oriental saying"WHEN TWO ELEPHANTS FIGHT, ONLY THE GRASS WILL GET HURT". So, welcome to the world.
  • MadAsHEck GINGERB... 2012/02/10 18:43:54
    MadAsHEck
    So long as you have a world whare there are tyrants, and others with a goal of world domination, those that seek freedom must fight back.

    The Goal of Islam and Communism both is world domination. Islam came Close, but ended up being beaten back out of Europe when the Ottoman Empire was taken down. Bringing out troops home, sounds like a good idea. But it will not endear the ChiComs or the Muslims and cause them to leave us alone.

    The problem now is our country, or any other country can be totally crippled in Minutes with modern weaponry. And the country that strikes first, will be the winner. Period.
  • GINGERB... MadAsHEck 2012/02/10 19:46:55
    GINGERBREAD
    Unfortunately, the rest of the world thinks that we are a paper tiger. If there was a way we could instill on everyone, that should they strike us, we will destroy them and send them back to the cave man period, we would be in a better shape.
  • MadAsHEck GINGERB... 2012/02/10 20:21:16
    MadAsHEck
    Unfortunately that won't happen. The Country that strikes first, wins. Period. And Iran is on the cusp. They already have Missiles deployed in Venezuela capable of hitting the USA. They are now patrolling off the East Coast with their Missile Capable subs. And purchasing Cargo Container Tactical Missile systems from Russia that are undetectible till they activate and lauinch.

    Here is a good read on the subject.

    http://silverbearcafe.com/pri...

    And do you wonder what Kheminni meant when the made the following speech recently - A great Event provoing the power of Allah.:

    In his remarks, Khamenei advised the youths to remain vigilant, stating that the Islamic awakening in the region has delivered several blows to the enemies of Islam and that all Muslims, despite their own historical and social differences, remain united in opposing the “evil hegemony of the Zionists and the Americans.”

    Khamenei then claimed the current century as the century of Islam and promised that human history is on the verge of a great event and that soon the world will realize the power of Allah.
  • GINGERB... MadAsHEck 2012/02/10 21:30:24
    GINGERBREAD
    As long as Venezuela or any other country have a complete understanding that should any missle come from them, they will be destroyed, along with Iran or any other country that supplied the missle. We have anti-missle missle, and they don't have enough missles to strike everypart of this country. That's the problem, we have no one in Washington that is willing to tell this to every potential enemy. During the "COLD WAR", the USSR knew for a fact, that any missle coming from any country under their control means the total annahilation of the USSR. We have enough missles to take every country out, should we get hit.
  • MadAsHEck GINGERB... 2012/02/10 21:53:38 (edited)
    MadAsHEck
    When a missile comes, there will be no retaliation. And it will only take One small Tactical Nuke, which Iran has already practiced.

    Whoever fires first is going to win - period. Nuke warfare has evolved. It is no longer fire and brimstone, but total shutdown of your enemy 2 minutes from launch. Indefensible. It happens before anybody can hit a button to launch an Anti Missile. If we actually had them, which we do not. We took that down years ago. And if the incoming were to be hit with an AA Missile, the effect would be the same.

    The entire southern Underbelly of the USA is totally undefended.

    Pakistan is moving their Tactical Nukes all the time in Mini Vans as was reported a few weeks ago. They are no longer like Big Boy in WWII. Some small enought to be hand carried in a suitcase.

    You speak of the the days of Mutual Assured Destruction. Those days are gone. We have not build a Nuke bomb in over 20 years. Those we have are obsolete and we are in the process of dismanteling the ones we do have under the START treaty. Nukes are no longer to be used to Destroy, but to totally disrupt.

    Learn about 21st century Technology. China has a weapon that can totally shut down a CAG long enough to take it out with Conventional weapons. They are suspected of testing it a few months ago, as there was an unexplained EMP Anomoly over the Pacific south of Kamchatka that could not be traced to Sun Spots.
  • GINGERB... MadAsHEck 2012/02/10 22:05:40
    GINGERBREAD
    We have submarines that will retaliate immediately.
  • MadAsHEck GINGERB... 2012/02/10 22:20:56 (edited)
    MadAsHEck
    Better look into that as well. Our trident fleet is being decommisioned as being obsolete. By 2015 as I read. Also part of the Start Treaty. Plus they have drastically reduced the number at sea at any given time.

    And it would not matter. A Missile launched to 100.000 ft is there in less than 2 minutes. Faster than any retaliatory measures could be taken.

    Congress was briefed on this a couple of years ago. But we the People cant handle the truth.

    Here's a good read. There are a lot more out there, but this is all in one place.
    http://silverbearcafe.com/pri...

    And what Great Event do you suppose Khameni said was soon to happen that:

    “In light of the realization of the divine promise by almighty God, the Zionists and the Great Satan (America) will soon be defeated,”

    In his remarks, Khamenei advised the youths to remain vigilant, stating that the Islamic awakening in the region has delivered several blows to the enemies of Islam and that all Muslims, despite their own historical and social differences, remain united in opposing the “evil hegemony of the Zionists and the Americans.”

    Khamenei then claimed the current century as the century of Islam and promised that human history is on the verge of a great event and that soon the world will realize the power of Allah.

    ...



    Better look into that as well. Our trident fleet is being decommisioned as being obsolete. By 2015 as I read. Also part of the Start Treaty. Plus they have drastically reduced the number at sea at any given time.

    And it would not matter. A Missile launched to 100.000 ft is there in less than 2 minutes. Faster than any retaliatory measures could be taken.

    Congress was briefed on this a couple of years ago. But we the People cant handle the truth.

    Here's a good read. There are a lot more out there, but this is all in one place.
    http://silverbearcafe.com/pri...

    And what Great Event do you suppose Khameni said was soon to happen that:

    “In light of the realization of the divine promise by almighty God, the Zionists and the Great Satan (America) will soon be defeated,”

    In his remarks, Khamenei advised the youths to remain vigilant, stating that the Islamic awakening in the region has delivered several blows to the enemies of Islam and that all Muslims, despite their own historical and social differences, remain united in opposing the “evil hegemony of the Zionists and the Americans.”

    Khamenei then claimed the current century as the century of Islam and promised that human history is on the verge of a great event and that soon the world will realize the power of Allah.

    Many clerics in Iran have stated that Khamenei is the deputy of the last Islamic messiah on earth and that obedience to him is necessary for the final glorification of Islam.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/ir...

    What do you think is going to happen when a people with a 6th century mentality gets control of 21st century weapons?
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  • GINGERB... MadAsHEck 2012/02/10 22:54:05
    GINGERBREAD
    Hey, we have this Acmedinadjad that talkes to the 12th imam every night. Guess who they are expecting in 2012?
  • MadAsHEck GINGERB... 2012/02/10 23:01:55 (edited)
    MadAsHEck
    Achmenidjad is just a figurehead serving at the pleasure of thKhameni. He could have his head removed at any time Khameni or the Mullahs decided to do so. And I assume you are aware of what must happen for the 12th Imam to return?

    And the Mullahs are in control of the Entire military might of Iran.

    You may kill the messenger to your hearts content, make fun of me if you will. But facts are facts jack.

    And soon if they are not stopped, Iran will have the 21 st century weapons to initiate their 6 th century mentality. As it I if they were to attack our fleet in the Gulf of Hormuz, we do not have enough power to stop them short of Nukes. And we have vowed to never use Nukes unless they are used against us first.

    Our ships over there are in range of thousands of Land Based and proven missiles. More than could be defended against.
  • GINGERB... MadAsHEck 2012/02/11 02:07:02
    GINGERBREAD
    Oh, I'm well aware of the 12th imam. When I was in the muslim countries in the late 60's, and on and off untill th 90's, That's all I heard, that within 50 years the 12th imam will show up and the whole world would be in a caliphate
  • Michael... MadAsHEck 2012/02/11 21:32:28
    MichaelDillon
    "EMP Anomoly over the Pacific south of Kamchatka that could not be traced to Sun Spots."
    Link?
  • MadAsHEck Michael... 2012/02/11 21:44:13 (edited)
    MadAsHEck
    Actually there were no sunspots at that time. And it was reported by the Russians. China is developing such weapons, and say that they have them operational. Iran has been conducting tests in the Arabian Sea that appear to be aimed at the same weaponry. Plus have Missile Bases in Venezuela armed with their latest Missiles capable of reaching the USA.

    http://www.projectworldawaren...

    http://www.washingtontimes.co...

    http://ambilac-uk.tripod.com/...

    This Thread asks "What Happened to War?" Well War has evolved folks, and it aint your Muskets and bullets any more.
  • jackolantyrn356 2010/12/04 03:31:07
    jackolantyrn356
    War is what it always has been. A nasty dirty job, but some one has to do it..... King David recognisedit for what it was. and is..........The Lord has brought up the Marxists and to his country shall have to stand before the Lord and beg His forgiveness and His good pleasure shall restore His country or let oObama finish the Destructtion. For America was measured qnd found to be lacking........Read your bible and reflect upon the end of America's Days unless you praty for a difference and you keep your promises unto Him.
  • tom C 2010/12/04 02:34:43
    tom  C
    I hate the thought of innocent women and children being killed in war....
    Here's the problem....and its a problem mainly of OUR enimies, the terrorists and foriegn military hide with innocent people...they use them to protect their sorry asses..They hide in churches,they use children to carry bombs and weapons. When we went to war with IRAQ,
    4 days into the war, you could not find any of Saddam's prized Republican Guard that would stand and fight....They ALL put on civilian clothes and hid amongst the innocent, to come back later as car bombers...
    You Dont see regular US Army soldiers hiding among the innocent for protection, its our enimies who NEVER play by the rules...
  • Kyra tom C 2010/12/04 02:55:13
    Kyra
    +1
    Are you telling me they can see those drones coming in from miles away....and hide behind the innocent, I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!
  • tom C Kyra 2010/12/04 02:59:31
    tom  C
    look america isnt completely innocent..but we try harder than anyone ,to avoid killing innocent people.. Do you understand how drones work?
  • Kyra tom C 2010/12/04 03:09:29
    Kyra
    +3
    It's a cowards way to fight. They call it a smart bomb, but it's not smart enough to know when innocent people are the target.
    More than 1,000 children died last year in afghanistan, 1200 Americans with guns died in the past decade in Afghanistan. ALL of them died for Pakistani oil pipelines and millions of lives have been ruined, sounds to me like your the terrorist.

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