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Bill 2012/12/27 17:33:47
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  • JonDeniro 2013/01/03 08:54:54
    atf
    JonDeniro
    Actually, my first choice would be the DHS.
  • Ashley 2012/12/31 22:47:48
    atf
    Ashley
    HSA
  • shadow76 2012/12/31 09:39:44
    atf
    shadow76
    BOTH!
  • RevJim 2012/12/28 21:46:02
    epa
    RevJim
    My thought would be the IRS
  • Gid 2012/12/28 19:18:23
    epa
    Gid
    Wow short list. You forget the BATF, DHS, Education, Energy etc.
  • william keegan 2012/12/28 09:36:18
    epa
    william keegan
    Actually, most of them. Other than State, Defense, Treasury, Justice and some of Interior and Commerce, the rest should be abolished! There is no constitutional authority for Education, HHS, Labor, EPA and thousands of others. The tenth Amendment prohibits most of the federal agencies that exist today, but no one in government is really concerned with following the constitution at all.
  • KD 2012/12/28 08:27:28
  • phil.olding.3 2012/12/28 07:53:23
    atf
    phil.olding.3
    +1
    Alcohol, tobacco, and firearms are things that Americans have the right to use. Explosives have their uses, too - as the agency is actually "BATFE" - and they're bad stuff.

    EPA - environmental protection agency - these people need to be more active, not banned.

    For those of us who have never used explosives, if stored improperly - they kill everyone around. If detonated randomly (very easy to have happen), they kill everyone around.

    If you negligently discharge a firearm, it can only go in the direction that your firearm is pointed. Much easier to control.
  • scurvison 2012/12/28 07:30:23
  • AdmrlLocke 2012/12/28 06:18:43
    epa
    AdmrlLocke
    The ATF is more notorious for its obvious evils, but the EPA's evils are more widespread, subtle and insidious.
  • Mopvyzo 2012/12/28 05:53:21
    atf
    Mopvyzo
    +2
    And the Dept of Homeland Security.
  • zero resistance 2012/12/28 04:08:29 (edited)
    atf
    zero resistance
    +1
    I have no strong opinion either way. I think it's funny that they grouped alcohol, tobacco and firearms together. It seems like kind of an odd mix, I guess it's all the things that are legal but dangerous. They should include pharmaceutical drugs. Would it become the ATFC if cannabis were legalized? The PDATFC
  • princess 2012/12/28 03:49:55
    epa
    princess
    +1
    Starting with: EPA....Dept. of Education....Dept. of Energy
  • ComeOnNow 2012/12/28 03:32:42
    epa
    ComeOnNow
    +1
    At the federal level all that are not specifically prescribed by the constitution. The states, cities, and whatever can do what they decide to do at the local level where people actually have a say so.
  • AL 2012/12/28 03:00:57
    epa
    AL
    The job killing EPA of course!
  • Gregaj7 2012/12/28 03:00:43
    epa
    Gregaj7
    How about the entire Federal Gov't?
  • flrdsgns 2012/12/28 02:53:40
    atf
    flrdsgns
    Need more choices, personally I'd like to see congress abolished. They don't do anything to begin with, why waste money and time on them?
  • DuncanONeil 2012/12/28 02:47:24
    epa
    DuncanONeil
    And the Dept of Ed.
  • Gunner 2012/12/28 02:42:13
    atf
    Gunner
    The BATFE. Any agency who has the brainpower to empower legal FFL dealers to sell to criminals needs to be disbanded.
    A history of abuses of law can be traced back to this agency from the the Waco mass murder of innocent children and adults to the killing of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry just to mention several.
  • fortycal_sig 2012/12/28 02:35:02
    atf
    fortycal_sig
    They both need to go.
  • Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel 2012/12/28 02:16:08
    epa
    Annie~Pro American~Pro Israel
    +2
    Federal reserves, tsa and the government's public education system, to name a few.
  • zero re... Annie~P... 2012/12/28 04:10:25
    zero resistance
    The Federal Reserve is a private business.
  • firozali a mulla 2012/12/28 02:07:58
    epa
    firozali a mulla
    We are hit from Middle and far East The yen hit its lowest level in more than two years on Friday as expectations of drastic monetary easing intensify, underpinning Japanese equities, while Asian shares were capped by worries the United States may run out of time to avoid a fiscal crunch. MSCI's broadest index of Asia-Pacific shares outside Japan was up 0.2 percent. It has gained about 18 percent this year, a sharp turnaround from an 18 percent plunge in 2011. Australian shares rose 0.8 percent to a 19-month high and were on track to post their strongest annual gain since 2009, with resources supported by rising iron ore prices. South Korean shares inched up 0.1 percent. European shares were nearly flat overnight, and U.S. stocks marked a fourth straight session of losses. We have not yet decided on this issue Up-to-date we ah eve idea This is a joke I guess as I read all are worried on the F C . S consumer confidence tumbled in December, driven lower by fears of sharp tax increases and government spending cuts set to take effect next week. The Conference Board said on Thursday that its consumer confidence index fell this month to 65.1, down from 71.5 in November. That's second straight decline and the lowest level since August. The survey showed consumers are slightly more op...
    We are hit from Middle and far East The yen hit its lowest level in more than two years on Friday as expectations of drastic monetary easing intensify, underpinning Japanese equities, while Asian shares were capped by worries the United States may run out of time to avoid a fiscal crunch. MSCI's broadest index of Asia-Pacific shares outside Japan was up 0.2 percent. It has gained about 18 percent this year, a sharp turnaround from an 18 percent plunge in 2011. Australian shares rose 0.8 percent to a 19-month high and were on track to post their strongest annual gain since 2009, with resources supported by rising iron ore prices. South Korean shares inched up 0.1 percent. European shares were nearly flat overnight, and U.S. stocks marked a fourth straight session of losses. We have not yet decided on this issue Up-to-date we ah eve idea This is a joke I guess as I read all are worried on the F C . S consumer confidence tumbled in December, driven lower by fears of sharp tax increases and government spending cuts set to take effect next week. The Conference Board said on Thursday that its consumer confidence index fell this month to 65.1, down from 71.5 in November. That's second straight decline and the lowest level since August. The survey showed consumers are slightly more optimistic about current business conditions and hiring. But their outlook for the next six months deteriorated to its lowest level since 2011, the survey showed. Lynn Franco, the board's director of economic indicators, said the decline in expectations for the next six months is a signal that consumers are worried about the "fiscal cliff." That's the name for the automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that take effect January 1 if the White House and Congress can't reach a budget deal. Expectations also plunged in August 2011 when a fight over the federal debt limit brought the government to the brink of insolvency, she said. A separate consumer confidence survey released last week by the University of Michigan fell to a five-month low this month. And reports show the holiday shopping season was the weakest since 2008, when the country was in a deep recession. Negotiations between President Barack Obama and House Republican leaders on a package to avert the sharp tax increases and spending cuts reached an impasse last week. Obama and congressional lawmakers return to Washington on Thursday to resume talks with just days to go before economy goes over the fiscal cliff. I thank you Firozali A.Mulla MOT A PESSIMIST BUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT NEXT
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  • Christine/Rest in peace Pet... 2012/12/28 01:18:25
    epa
    Christine/Rest in peace Peter Br
    I chose the EPA which has gotten way out of hand, however, the National Dept of Education and the lack of common sense, and agenda driven policies need to go too.
  • XZQZQ 2012/12/28 00:02:40
    epa
    XZQZQ
    +3
    Where to start ? EPA & ATF for starts.... the question is which agencies doe we REALLY need, and should be retained. I suspect that it is a fairly short list.
  • Ishmael 2012/12/27 23:41:31
    atf
    Ishmael
    +5
    How about the Department of Homeland Security? How many tax dollars are being WASTED there?
  • unclepat 2012/12/27 23:41:19
    atf
    unclepat
    Oh hell this again? OKAY I STILL DON'T REMEMBER ALRIGHT??? Oops! lol rick perry
  • Blueskys 2012/12/27 23:39:53
    atf
    Blueskys
    +1
    Its a case of bad, and far worse.

    The EPA can be bad, because it is subject to the changes in political leadership.

    For example, while under Nixon the EPA achieved it's reputation as a effective, balanced regulatory agency and with great popularity & public approval made vast strides in cleaning pollution from our air and water.
    Under Carter and later Presidents it's record is more murky, as it was used to promote political goals.
    For example, with Nixon's resignation OPEC had won the energy war.
    Under the "OPEC Presidents" (Carter, Reagan, Bush's, Clinton) The EPA was used as 'cover' for the elimination of Nixon Energy Independence program.
    1. They stopped any expansion of hydroelectricity dams (protecting fish and 'delicate canyon ecologies".
    2. And vastly helped the derailment of nuclear power.
    3. Basicly totally ignored coal as a pollutant. (Coal is part of OPEC).

    At the same time the President mandated we had to use coal for generating electricity and for every other possible purpose, and even outlawed natural gas generators "for the good of the country".

    So the EPA is bad, since its a tool for plutocrats economic politics, rather than the best interest of the people, if the public is not watchful. Like the past thirty five years.
    But the previou...
    Its a case of bad, and far worse.

    The EPA can be bad, because it is subject to the changes in political leadership.

    For example, while under Nixon the EPA achieved it's reputation as a effective, balanced regulatory agency and with great popularity & public approval made vast strides in cleaning pollution from our air and water.
    Under Carter and later Presidents it's record is more murky, as it was used to promote political goals.
    For example, with Nixon's resignation OPEC had won the energy war.
    Under the "OPEC Presidents" (Carter, Reagan, Bush's, Clinton) The EPA was used as 'cover' for the elimination of Nixon Energy Independence program.
    1. They stopped any expansion of hydroelectricity dams (protecting fish and 'delicate canyon ecologies".
    2. And vastly helped the derailment of nuclear power.
    3. Basicly totally ignored coal as a pollutant. (Coal is part of OPEC).

    At the same time the President mandated we had to use coal for generating electricity and for every other possible purpose, and even outlawed natural gas generators "for the good of the country".

    So the EPA is bad, since its a tool for plutocrats economic politics, rather than the best interest of the people, if the public is not watchful. Like the past thirty five years.
    But the previous conditions were far worse, with no oversight and our country looking like China does today, and local governments overwhelmed by the mega corps. who prefer dealing with 50 or more fragments of the country, that they can then can pit against each other, rather than a single unified marketplace.
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  • lady_c5_loadmaster 2012/12/27 23:38:14
    epa
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    +3
    and the departmernt of education
  • Jd 2012/12/27 23:28:05
    epa
    Jd
    +3
    But mostly the DOE....a lot of good they have been doing our kids.
  • sbtbill 2012/12/27 23:24:10
    atf
    sbtbill
    +4
    Of those mentioned. Though I'd probably just reform it. My choice would be homeland security b - even the name is subversive.
  • Sgt Major B 2012/12/27 23:17:45
    epa
    Sgt Major B
    +2
    The EPA has devolved into nothing but a horde of short-sighted, tree-huggin', dirt-munchin', druids serving as bureaucratic idealogues worshipping at the altar of a misdirected, hare-brained philosophy of "Save the Planet - Eliminate Humans". Every flippin' one of 'em deserves to be tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail
    with a spotted owl hung round their neck!
  • Blueskys Sgt Maj... 2012/12/27 23:56:32
    Blueskys
    excuse me, but your brainwashed.
    Read my post above about the EPA.
    Being angry with the EPA is like being angry at the stick that hits you.
    It's the person wielding the stick that's beating you that is your enemy. Attacking the stick is not going to help.

    BTW, it's not this vague unspecified unknowable group you call "Liberals" behind EPA.
    Its Rockefeller Coal, BP, BofA, who have used it to promote and maintain their monopolies.
  • Picasso's Cat 2012/12/27 22:57:54
    atf
    Picasso's Cat
    +2
    The federal government actually.
    All of it!
  • Janoy D... Picasso... 2012/12/28 02:33:44
    Janoy Davis
    +1
    Then the United States will cease to exist...the constitution voided; bloody wars fought for and by this nation all in vain. We will be nothing but warring city-states having to fend off other states and outside nations from attack. The future is grime if this was a outcome.
  • Picasso... Janoy D... 2012/12/28 12:36:16
    Picasso's Cat
    Nope.
    America started without a federal government and did just fine.
    America had a direct democracy as a response to local needs and issues where all concerned citizens could discuss and decide questions that immediately affect their lives, such as land use, parks, schools and community services.

    We would, in getting rid of our federal government decentralize federal functions to the county and city level and seek expanded oversight and decision-making power of local governing bodies, such as neighborhood boards and associations, over issues that pertain to their jurisdiction. In their own communities, by the people who live in that community like the old city hall building use to do to mandate government to that area, not people in Washington D.C. who work for our federal government who mandate everyone in America do the same thing regardless of the millions of differences there are in America among all the different peoples that live here.

    Local government is the best government, it's the way America started before a federal government screwed everything up!
  • JCD aka "biz" 2012/12/27 22:40:26
    atf
    JCD aka "biz"
    +2
    Not atf, only the notorious "FEMA concentration camps".
  • Blueskys JCD aka... 2012/12/28 00:04:06
    Blueskys
    Those are Homeland Security camps, and we have maintained them since the 1950's, in case our population decide they want to be socialist. When they built them laws were passed making it illegal to have socialist or communist ideas, or approve in any fashion their ideas.

    Over and over again though, Nixon is the exception. He closed the camps and undid the laws controlling our political activities, and we could think and say whatever we wanted.
    Like with most of Nixon's reforms, they were gradually undone by the "Patrician class" Presidents we have had since.
  • Sgt Maj... Blueskys 2012/12/28 01:45:37 (edited)
    Sgt Major B
    Excuse me, but you're stupid. Spare me the idiotic conspiracy theories. The minute you start spouting that crap, you expose yourself for the fool you are.

    The unelected left-wing bureaucrats of the EPA have done more to drive American business to foreign shores than any possibility of cheap labor.

    Has it ever occurred to you that it might be to your advantage to continue cowering in the corner, slack-jawed and glassy-eyed, mewling and whimpering unintelligibly as you drool and slobber on yourself and let the world THINK you're a demented fool as opposed to rising up on your hind legs, croaking out some moronic bit of drivel and removing all doubt?
  • JCD aka... Blueskys 2012/12/28 09:59:40
    JCD aka "biz"
    Thank you.

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