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What Does God Mean, When He Said: All Have Sinned And Fall Short Of The Glory Of God? [Romans 3:23.]

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  • James 2009/08/18 15:14:43
    James
    Romans 3:20-24 (New King James Version)

    20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
    21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

    Romans 3:10-11 (New King James Version)

    10 As it is written:

    “ There is none righteous, no, not one;
    11 There is none who understands;
    There is none who seeks after God.

    Romans 6:23 (New King James Version)

    23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
  • In memo... James 2009/08/26 15:19:40
  • In memory of my wife,Sister... 2009/08/13 19:31:07 (edited)
    In memory of my wife,Sister in Christ, Has Passed away!
    +1
    We are born in sin if we're not so then there would have been no reason for Jesus.
    What you need to understand is the glory of God! The glory of God is the beauty of His Spirit. It is not an aesthetic beauty or a material beauty, but it is the beauty that emanates from His Character, from all that He is.
    [Romans 3:23.] "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
    Isaiah 43:7.[KJV] Says that God created us for His glory.
    In context with the other verses, it can be said that man "glorifies" God because through man God's glory can be seen in things such as love, music, heroism and so forth, things belonging to God that we are carrying "in jars of clay"
    [2 Corinthians 4:7]. love music heroism god carrying jars clay 2 corinthians 47
    We Live By The Grace Of God.
    [Romans 9:15-16.] say's:"For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion." "So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that sheweth mercy."
    God Bless
  • larry 2009/08/07 16:22:24
    larry
    It means in our own efforts we can not begin to measure up to the Holiness of God. However when we are found in Christ, following after his spirit and not after our flesh washed by His Blood, then we are presented to God as HOLY.
  • In memo... larry 2009/08/13 19:38:40
  • bones327 2009/08/07 03:15:38 (edited)
    bones327
    My dear Sister in the Lord: You only ask this question because people taught you about Yeshua's love and His sacrifice on the tree, His death, burial and resurrection, (by which, through faith, He has redeemed you for eternal life,) but they left out the fundamentals. You need to know the foundation of your faith is Judaism. Without an understanding of the Monotheistic faith in G-d, you can never understand what you call the New Testament. You are like someone who has come into a movie, where they are playing a sequel, but you did not see the first film. There are many references to the first flick, but you are only seeing the second. Therefore, you don't understand the references to the earlier story.



    First, you must remember that Yeshua (that's Jesus for you gringos) was born into the Israelite tribe of Judah, in the family or clan of David, the king. As a Judahite (or Jew) of the Pharasaic sect (oh, yes, Jesus was a Pharisee - the ultra-religious Jewish sect of His time) Jesus grew up under the Mosaic law, which is laid out in the Torah. (Christians call this, somewhat derisively, The Law.) Paul, whose given name was Saul, also grew up in this sect. He was a devout Jew and practiced all of the religious ritual that went with the territory. (Saul wrote Romans, so G-d did no...



















    My dear Sister in the Lord: You only ask this question because people taught you about Yeshua's love and His sacrifice on the tree, His death, burial and resurrection, (by which, through faith, He has redeemed you for eternal life,) but they left out the fundamentals. You need to know the foundation of your faith is Judaism. Without an understanding of the Monotheistic faith in G-d, you can never understand what you call the New Testament. You are like someone who has come into a movie, where they are playing a sequel, but you did not see the first film. There are many references to the first flick, but you are only seeing the second. Therefore, you don't understand the references to the earlier story.



    First, you must remember that Yeshua (that's Jesus for you gringos) was born into the Israelite tribe of Judah, in the family or clan of David, the king. As a Judahite (or Jew) of the Pharasaic sect (oh, yes, Jesus was a Pharisee - the ultra-religious Jewish sect of His time) Jesus grew up under the Mosaic law, which is laid out in the Torah. (Christians call this, somewhat derisively, The Law.) Paul, whose given name was Saul, also grew up in this sect. He was a devout Jew and practiced all of the religious ritual that went with the territory. (Saul wrote Romans, so G-d did not state the quote from Romans, above; Paul did.)



    In order to be in proper relationship with G-d, one had to completely follow every one of the 613 commandments that were dictated by G-d to Moses and included in the Hebrews' religion. G-d's law is contained within the words of the Scrolls of the Torah. If you failed to keep any one of the rules, it was as though you violated all of them. If you broke one of the rules, you had to suffer the consequence of the violation. The wages of sin is death. There were ways to reconcile with G-d, but you had to follow the Mosaic code. Following the code is not possible at this time in history, nor has it been possible since the Romans destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. Are you following me here?



    Only one person is believed to have ever kept the law perfectly. That one person was Messiah Yeshua (Jesus Christ, for you all that don't know any Hebrew.) He is called the author and finisher of the faith. How is that? He is G-d. He wrote the rules. He was able to follow them. Because Yeshua followed the Law perfectly, even though He was sacrificed on the tree, death could not hold Him, as He had not sinned. Still with me?



    Do you know why Jesus is called the Living Word? The Logos, in Greek? This allusion to the Word of G-d is also followed up when Jesus said that all of the Scriptures, which is the Torah the Writings The Prophets (also called the Tanakh) speaks about Him.



    All right, now that we have blazed through that super brief primer on The Law, you must realize that if you have ever done anything wrong in your life, you have violated some element of G-d's law and consequently, are not in proper relationship with the Father in Heaven, unless you have made the proper sacrifice with the priests in the Temple at Jerusalem and returned to proper ceremonial purity. Therefore, you have "fallen short of the glory of G-d."



    Everyone, at some point in their adult lives (after they have reached the age of accountability in G-d's system), has failed to perfectly keep the Law. That is why Paul/Saul makes the statement of Romans 3:23. G-d gave us the Law, so we would become conscious of our need for a Savior. But, if you don't know about the Law, how could you ever appreciate the sacrifice Yeshua made for you?
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  • In memo... bones327 2009/09/17 21:18:52
    In memory of my wife,Sister in Christ, Has Passed away!
    Are you talking to me! talking
    Let me be clear, I have no ear to hear all that talking clear ear hear " rubbish" talking clear ear hear rubbish
    your blowing air!
  • Cinder 2009/08/07 03:12:37
    Cinder
    +1
    I think he means everyone sins?
  • In memo... Cinder 2009/09/17 21:21:57
  • Cinder In memo... 2009/09/21 15:15:00
    Cinder
    Umm no I'm not a God person thanks...
  • In memo... Cinder 2009/09/21 15:34:58
    In memory of my wife,Sister in Christ, Has Passed away!
    Oh!
  • Cinder In memo... 2009/09/21 15:37:48
    Cinder
    Lol uh yeah but its okay. I hope your God blesses you today =)
  • JohntheChristian 2009/08/07 02:35:03
    JohntheChristian
    He is saying that all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God.
  • bones327 Johnthe... 2009/08/07 03:21:50
    bones327
    +1
    Hey, John. Didn't anyone ever tell you that when you define a word, you can't use that word in the definitional sentence?
  • Johnthe... bones327 2009/08/07 03:22:17
    JohntheChristian
    It was supposed to be a joke... nm.
  • bones327 Johnthe... 2009/08/07 18:00:53
    bones327
    OK, ha ha. I thought this was supposed to be a serious discussion to help the questioner understand the Biblical quote. Forgive me for not picking up on your tongue-in-cheek reply. Have a great weekend!!
  • Heather 2009/08/07 02:19:01 (edited)
    Heather
    He is saying, we are never going to be able to live up to the law that was made, which made sin known. Sin has always been since the falling of Adam and Eve. They lived without the knowledge of sin until the law was written. The law declares what God expects from us to be perfect. He knew we would never be able to live up to that so He sent His son. Jesus is now our way of obtaining holiness. He in us brings forth His holiness. He gives us everything we need to live a godly life. We can come to a point where we are so deep in Him and Him in us that sin no longer dwells there. I said all that to say, He said what He said for us to realize we are nothing without Him. The glory is talking of the glory that will be revealed in us at the return of Jesus.
    Romans 8:17-18 (King James Version)
    17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
    18For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
  • In memo... Heather 2009/08/13 20:30:26
  • Smashing Pumpkins #1 Fan 2009/08/06 22:57:35 (edited)
    Smashing Pumpkins #1 Fan
    Only 'cause of that retarded Eve.
  • jessiesgirl4463 2009/08/06 22:56:29
    jessiesgirl4463
    +1
    We are all sinners, it is the nature of the flesh to sin. God is holy in a way that we can not imagine, or obtain, so as humans we all fall short of His holiness. and even after we are saved we are sinners, we are redeemed therefore forgiven but we still fall short...
  • In memo... jessies... 2009/08/13 20:27:47
  • Bob-chicka-wow-wow 2009/08/06 22:55:08
    Bob-chicka-wow-wow
    its gods way of saying that we all suck and hes so much better
  • YanYan Bob-chi... 2009/08/08 07:52:09
  • kahless 2009/08/06 22:54:29
    kahless
    +1
    No One is good enough to reach heaven, Jesus is the only way...He died for our sins and took them on himself so that we way be with him in the herafter....
  • In memo... kahless 2009/08/13 20:29:00
  • The Gov-Here to help BN362 2009/08/06 22:51:33
    The Gov-Here to help BN362
    +1
    You are damned from the moment you are born.
  • Heather The Gov... 2009/08/07 02:13:15
    Heather
    Until Jesus!! Hallelujah!
  • In memo... Heather 2009/08/13 20:29:33
  • Gun665 2009/08/06 22:50:50
    Gun665
    "You just ain't got the stuff."

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