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What Did Reagan Know About the Argentine Dictatorship's Baby Thefts?

Samantha 2012/07/08 20:22:27
This article explains, in part, why the United States is, as William Blum describes it, a rogue nation.

The Reagan administration was aware of a scheme to murder leftist mothers in Argentina and give their infants to military personnel often complicit in the killings.

An Argentine court has convicted two of the nation’s former right-wing dictators, Jorge Rafael Videla and Reynaldo Bignone, in a scheme to murder leftist mothers and give their infants to military personnel often complicit in the killings, a shocking process known to the Reagan administration even as it worked closely with the bloody regime.

Testimony at the trial included a videoconference from Washington with Elliott Abrams, then-Secretary of State for Latin American Affairs, who said he urged Bignone to reveal the babies’ identities as Argentina began a transition to democracy in 1983.

Abrams said the Reagan administration “knew that it wasn’t just one or two children,” indicating that U.S. officials believed there was a high-level “plan because there were many people who were being murdered or jailed.” Estimates of the Argentines murdered in the so-called Dirty War range from 13,000 to about 30,000, with many victims “disappeared,” buried in mass graves or dumped from planes over the Atlantic.

A human rights group, Grandmothers of the Plaza de Mayo, says as many as 500 babies were stolen by the military during the repression from 1976 to 1983. Some of the pregnant mothers were kept alive long enough to give birth and then were chained together with other prisoners and pushed out of the planes into the ocean to drown.

Despite U.S. government awareness of the grisly actions of the Argentine junta, which had drawn public condemnation from the Carter administration in the 1970s, these Argentine neo-Nazis were warmly supported by Ronald Reagan, both as a political commentator in the late 1970s and as President once he took office in 1981.

When President Jimmy Carter’s human rights coordinator, Patricia Derian, berated the Argentine junta for its brutality, Reagan used his newspaper column to chide her, suggesting that Derian should “walk a mile in the moccasins” of the Argentine generals before criticizing them. [For details, see Martin Edwin Andersen's Dossier Secreto.]

Reagan understood that the Argentine generals played a central role in the anti-communist crusade that was turning Latin America into a nightmare of unspeakable repression. The leaders of the Argentine junta saw themselves as something of pioneers in the techniques of torture and psychological operations, sharing their lessons with other regional dictatorships.

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Argentina also took the lead in devising ways to fund the anti-communist war through the drug trade.

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  • Charge 2012/07/08 20:29:05
    Charge
    +1
    Crap, another far left Progressive Liberal propaganda website,,,,,
    liberal crap
  • Samantha Charge 2012/07/08 20:38:57
    Samantha
    It's interesting you never attempt to refute the facts presented. Oh well, conservatives rejects facts, science and reason.
  • Charge Samantha 2012/07/09 00:24:58
    Charge
    What facts, it's all supposition and innuendo....
    I went to the website and there is nothing more than hearsay.... just Liberal BS and why go bock to Reagan... stupid.
  • Samantha Charge 2012/07/09 18:55:23 (edited)
    Samantha
    From the article:

    Abrams said the Reagan administration “knew that it wasn’t just one or two children,” indicating that U.S. officials believed there was a high-level “plan because there were many people who were being murdered or jailed.” Estimates of the Argentines murdered in the so-called Dirty War range from 13,000 to about 30,000, with many victims “disappeared,” buried in mass graves or dumped from planes over the Atlantic.

    Yet, the Reagan Administration continued to support a right wing dictatorship.
  • Charge Samantha 2012/07/10 00:57:02
    Charge
    This remains to be hearsay, I have not been able to find any documents or articles at that time that support the allegations. Right now I do see blatant genocide going on in Syria, does that count?
  • Samantha Charge 2012/07/10 02:24:42
    Samantha
    No, it's not hearsay since Abrams admits the Reagan Administration knew of the kidnappings and killings.
  • Charge Samantha 2012/07/10 14:07:45
    Charge
    It's only his word, there is nothing backing him up; why is it so important to go back to Reagan and slam him? The destruction of America by the Obama administration is far more important right now, bye.
  • Samantha Charge 2012/07/10 18:23:00
    Samantha
    Obviously, the U.S. was aware and this isn't the first time the U.S. has supported right wing dictators in Latin America. We have a history of overthrowing democratically-elected governments around the world. Regarding Reagan, the issue is this: "Despite U.S. government awareness of the grisly actions of the Argentine junta, which had drawn public condemnation from the Carter administration in the 1970s, these Argentine neo-Nazis were warmly supported by Ronald Reagan, both as a political commentator in the late 1970s and as President once he took office in 1981."
  • Charge Samantha 2012/07/10 20:28:02
    Charge
    Your, "Obviously" just doesn't cut it when You are demeaning and trying to cast dispersions on a past president. OK, show me President Carters "condemnation", if You can... show me something other than Your meaningless, unsubstantiated Progressive Liberal blather.
    This whole thing is pointless lefty BS.
    As shown by Your responses....... LOLz
  • Samantha Charge 2012/07/10 20:52:20 (edited)
    Samantha
    http://consortiumnews.com/201...

    As international concern mounted, Patricia Derian, President Jimmy Carter’s new assistant secretary of state for human rights, made the Argentine Dirty War one of her top causes. Though the Argentine military denounced Derian’s interference, the lives of some high-profile captives were spared.

    But the Argentine military had U.S. allies, too, including Ronald Reagan, a Republican presidential aspirant who defended the generals. In one radio commentary, Reagan urged Derian to “walk a mile in the moccasins” of the Argentine officers before criticizing them.

    After Reagan won the White House in 1980, he restored friendly ties with the generals. Reagan even authorized the CIA to collaborate with Argentine intelligence in training the Nicaraguan contra rebels in Honduras.

    http://consortiumnews.com/201...

    The report added that the “government of the United States, through various agencies including the CIA, provided direct and indirect support for some [of these] state operations.” The report concluded that the U.S. government also gave money and training to a Guatemalan military that committed “acts of genocide” against the Mayans.

    “Believing that the ends justified everything, the military and the state security forces blindly pursued the antic...
    http://consortiumnews.com/201...

    As international concern mounted, Patricia Derian, President Jimmy Carter’s new assistant secretary of state for human rights, made the Argentine Dirty War one of her top causes. Though the Argentine military denounced Derian’s interference, the lives of some high-profile captives were spared.

    But the Argentine military had U.S. allies, too, including Ronald Reagan, a Republican presidential aspirant who defended the generals. In one radio commentary, Reagan urged Derian to “walk a mile in the moccasins” of the Argentine officers before criticizing them.

    After Reagan won the White House in 1980, he restored friendly ties with the generals. Reagan even authorized the CIA to collaborate with Argentine intelligence in training the Nicaraguan contra rebels in Honduras.

    http://consortiumnews.com/201...

    The report added that the “government of the United States, through various agencies including the CIA, provided direct and indirect support for some [of these] state operations.” The report concluded that the U.S. government also gave money and training to a Guatemalan military that committed “acts of genocide” against the Mayans.

    “Believing that the ends justified everything, the military and the state security forces blindly pursued the anticommunist struggle, without respect for any legal principles or the most elemental ethical and religious values, and in this way, completely lost any semblance of human morals,” said the commission chairman, Christian Tomuschat, a German jurist.
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  • Charge Samantha 2012/07/11 00:35:55
    Charge
    January 20, 1981 – January 20, 1989
    Ronald Reagan, Presidential term
    The first article You showed took place in 1976.....
    Looks to me he was fighting the leftists, socialists and commies.
    The Reagan administration also became heavily committed in various hotspots throughout Latin America, particularly in those areas where the fight against Communism still raged. Throughout his first term in office, the federal government under Reagan financed anti-Communist guerillas and politicians in the small state of El Salvador. Reagan also sent 10,000 US troops to the island of Grenada in 1982 to combat the few hundred village warriors who tried to overthrow the government and establish a Socialist state. As soon as the American soldiers arrived, the conflict was over in a few hours. Surprisingly, the American public strongly approved of Reagan's decision to send in the US Army. Reagan sent the troops just two days after the 239 Marines in Beirut had died, and an American victory in Latin America only boosted public spirits. Furthermore, the media ran footage of rescued American hostages in Grenada that increased support for the invasion.

    Reagan's primary concern in Latin America, though, was Nicaragua. In 1979, President Carter had supported the Socialist Sandinista movement when it overthre...

    January 20, 1981 – January 20, 1989
    Ronald Reagan, Presidential term
    The first article You showed took place in 1976.....
    Looks to me he was fighting the leftists, socialists and commies.
    The Reagan administration also became heavily committed in various hotspots throughout Latin America, particularly in those areas where the fight against Communism still raged. Throughout his first term in office, the federal government under Reagan financed anti-Communist guerillas and politicians in the small state of El Salvador. Reagan also sent 10,000 US troops to the island of Grenada in 1982 to combat the few hundred village warriors who tried to overthrow the government and establish a Socialist state. As soon as the American soldiers arrived, the conflict was over in a few hours. Surprisingly, the American public strongly approved of Reagan's decision to send in the US Army. Reagan sent the troops just two days after the 239 Marines in Beirut had died, and an American victory in Latin America only boosted public spirits. Furthermore, the media ran footage of rescued American hostages in Grenada that increased support for the invasion.

    Reagan's primary concern in Latin America, though, was Nicaragua. In 1979, President Carter had supported the Socialist Sandinista movement when it overthrew Nicaragua's dictator. Reagan, however, vehemently opposed the Sandinistas's claim to power and the organization's Communist ties. In 1981, Reagan authorized the Central Intelligence Agency to train an army of 10,000 Nicaraguan "freedom fighters," or Contras, to fight the Sandinistas.
    From all I have read Reagan was just crushing the commies, lesser of two evils here...
    Like I said, Progressive Liberal BS.
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  • Samantha Charge 2012/07/11 00:54:34
    Samantha
    Reagan was always sympathetic to right wing dictators. Reagan supported terrorists in Nicaragua. Thank you, of course, for providing clear examples of U.S. imperialism and militarism.
  • Charge Samantha 2012/07/11 14:13:21
    Charge
    When the choice is supporting Communism vs almost anything else; anything else wins. That's the way it should be, Remember it was Jimmy Carter that supported the Communists creating their ability to cause these civil wars in the first place.
  • Samantha Charge 2012/07/11 15:32:31
    Samantha
    Well, that's a novel way in attempting to justify supporting terrorists in Central America who murdered an American citizen. Apparently, you don't know the history of Nicaragua and U.S. imperialism in Central America.
  • Charge Samantha 2012/07/11 17:26:31
    Charge
    Look, the past has many things we and others have done wrong; however the attempts to stop the spread of communism has and always will be justified regardless of the efforts of the Progressive Liberals to promote it.
  • Samantha Charge 2012/07/11 23:10:33
    Samantha
    Most of your most is nothing more than conservative propaganda. Progressives/liberals aren't communists no matter how many times conservatives spread that lie. The irrational fear of communism created a national security state that has undermined all the freedoms you claim to uphold.
  • Charge Samantha 2012/07/12 14:03:49
    Charge
    Open Your eyes.... I don't know why You posted this, but.... No one cares....
  • Samantha Charge 2012/07/12 20:30:25
    Samantha
    Conservatives reject facts, science and reason.
  • Charge Samantha 2012/07/12 23:55:20
    Charge
    Show me some facts instead of conjecture and innuendo....
  • Samantha Charge 2012/07/13 14:46:00
    Samantha
    It's not conjecture; U.S. imperialism is a fact. The U.S., especially in the 20th century, supported right wing dictatorships in Latin America and also supported right wing death squads. Those are facts.
  • Charge Samantha 2012/07/13 15:03:46
    Charge
    You look at it any way You wish.... the support was against communism and that will continue to be an emphasis.
  • Samantha Charge 2012/07/13 15:40:47
    Samantha
    The U.S. supported murderous right wing dictatorships and death squads. In addition, it overthrew democratically elected governments. Do you support those atrocious policies?
  • Charge Samantha 2012/07/13 16:17:37
    Charge
    Look that was then, what the heck is to be gain about the past; I prefer spending my time getting rid of the Commie in the White House now... BYE!
  • Samantha Charge 2012/07/13 18:51:13 (edited)
    Samantha
    The U.S. has a very long history of committing the acts I mentioned.

    Obama isn't a communist; that's another conservative lie. Obama is a centrist.
  • Charge Samantha 2012/07/13 20:19:54
    Charge
    Obama is only a centrist to a far left radical.
  • Samantha Charge 2012/07/13 20:34:34 (edited)
    Samantha
    No, he's very centrist; he's even continued some of Bush's policies. You have no evidence to support your claim that he's a communist, and I don't think you know anything about communism.

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  • Charge Samantha 2012/07/13 20:38:37
    Charge
    Actually I think he is more of a Marxist... but they are basically all bad, so it really doesn't matter; what matters is we get rid of Obama in November.
  • Samantha Charge 2012/07/13 20:39:59
    Samantha
    Then, you exhibit a lack of knowledge regarding Marxism. Did you know Romney is a socialist? So are most Americans.
  • Charge Samantha 2012/07/13 20:57:32
    Charge
    Obama wants to nationalize our economy, control our lives, and redistribute wealth regardless of who earns it; call it what You wish, but that dog don't hunt.

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