What could happen to the stock market if Obama is re-elected?
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2012/04/30 01:32:13
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Ira 2012/04/30 01:50:33It will be the time to thrive for Socialism...
+4How about you tell me what happened to the stock market after his first election? DOW at 8000 on inauguration day. DOW now 13,204.62. Not hard to tell which side of the fence you occupy. But it should be rather obvious to you that the gains over the last 3.5 years speak volumes. I think the data answers the question quite nicely, don't you? BTW, they are higher now then they ever were under Bush.
With twenty years on each side and since some of the ups and downs of the U.S. business cycle lie beyond the direct control of policymakers, one would expect similar results in the two groups. Not so. Instead, one discovers below a significant advantage when a Democrat occupied the White House in each of the five categories.
% Per Annum . Democrat .. Republican .. Bush43
GDP Growth .......4.1%............... 2.9% ....... 2.2%
Employment ......... 2.9% ............. 1.7% ...... 0.5%
CPI ................. ... 4.0% ............... 5.1% ..... 3.0%
DJIA ............ .. ... 8.1% ............. 6.5% ..... 0.9%
Dollar ............ .. .. 0.8% ............. -3.6% ...... -5.9%
Do you have the numbers for a 50 year analysis? This would include some notably bad Democratic Administration, e.g., Carter and Johnson, and the Reagan Administration that most conservatives hold up as the example. Thus it would be much more representative of the parties rather than individual successes and failures.
sounds good to me ....... thanks, ....;]
now the USA economy not only depend on the US work force, or the educated professionals, but also depends on the economy of the whole world. now any one of you can give me numbers, and percentages like any other guys in to finances around the world could. the point its very simple the people of the usa and the world got tired of working for a little while the other few guys take a big chunk of the cake and doing so by making deals that only are on their favor, with not a single bit of ethics or professionalism corrupting the economic system and taking it to bankruptcy y simple words stealing money without robing it. so i call investors thieves, so now the people only wants that all these thieves pay a fair tax share stop taking jobs in to china, mexico or south america and mainly stop dealing with people future. If you like to make more money on top of the millions your dad left you START DOING A REAL WORK! AND A REAL WORK IS NOT INVESTING WICH IS ROBING!..and stopspending time on the golf course , drinking on bard whit escorts and most of all stop SCREWING WIT HARD WORKING PEOPLE FUTURE any of you bring me those real numbers and i will say we are on the path of an economic recovery.
Having explained 16 of the 20 years as being composed of one superstar and one idiot, 20 years seems inadequate to judge the competence of all party members and party policies.
When I first started doing these numbers, I used my lifetime which is a bit more than 50 years. Since then I have decided 50 years is easier to explain and I don't need to say how old I am. If however you wish a different time frame identify the year I should start....and if it is after 1940, I will summarize the numbers from that starting year. Warning: I will do sensitivity tests on either side of your suggested starting year...and if the year was selected to bias the results, I will report the results of the sensitivity tests.
BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!
THANK YOU DEMOCRATS (especially Barney ) for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment...to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!
(BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie -starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy). Barney blocked it and called it a "Chicken Little Philosophy" (and the sky did fall!)
And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA
And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?
OBAMA and the Democrat Congress, especially BARNEY !!!!
So when someone tries to blame Bush...
REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007.... THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"
Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving the economy into the ditch.
Budgets do not come from the White House.. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2...
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BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!
THANK YOU DEMOCRATS (especially Barney ) for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment...to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!
(BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie -starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy). Barney blocked it and called it a "Chicken Little Philosophy" (and the sky did fall!)
And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA
And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?
OBAMA and the Democrat Congress, especially BARNEY !!!!
So when someone tries to blame Bush...
REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007.... THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"
Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving the economy into the ditch.
Budgets do not come from the White House.. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party.
Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 & 2011.
In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.
For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budget .
And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009. Let's remember what the deficits looked like during that period:
If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.
If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself .
In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is "I inherited a deficit that I voted for, and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th."
There is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!
" The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living."
Why do you deem it so necessary to lie?
Oh really?...It certainly seems more like Clinton decided to work with the Republican Congress...and was VERY glad that he did.
Phony, phony, liar is Mr. Ken.
I will try to summarize them for 50 years, i.e., 1952 through 2011. I believe I have the party in the White House for that period and if I get inspired I may do it for the party controlling the House and the Senate as well.
Like I said, I love real numbers as the basis for political opinion rather than the hyperbole we see most of the time.
I am posting this before I have the results so people won't believe these decision were made to influence the results. So our analysis period now is 1960 through 2011.
At this point, I have had enough for today. So if anyone wants to question the methodology, now is the time.
before the worst economic crash since the great depression, mostly the republicans were in power 1995 thru 2007 almost the whole 12 years both houses.
November 4, 2008: DJIA up 305 (the biggest Election Day rally in history).
November 5, 2008: DJIA down 486.