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Drue-AFCL 2012/06/29 21:38:19
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  • mrdog 2012/06/30 06:33:33
    mrdog
    +2
    this...bark
    The Senate cannot introduce a Tax Bill ( which ObamaCare has now been declared). Only the House can introduce a Tax Bill.

    Giving the Republicans an arsenal of weapons.

    "Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition." - "Keep your powder dry boys!"
  • Jdogg 2012/06/30 05:18:28
    Jdogg
    +1
    The future of obamacare in the very near future, implants for the microchip
  • santa6642 2012/06/30 03:24:34
    santa6642
    BS
  • goatman112003 2012/06/30 03:22:57
    goatman112003
    Roberts basically started a firestorm where the devil's to pay.
  • Catch224u 2012/06/30 02:53:45
    Catch224u
    If I owned a small business, I'd drop health care for employees. Simple math
  • Soup Man 2012/06/30 02:28:40
    Soup Man
    +2
    Here’s what really occurred — payback. Yes, payback for Obama’s numerous, ill-advised and childish insults directed toward SCOTUS.

    Chief Justice Roberts actually ruled the mandate, relative to the commerce clause, was unconstitutional. That’s how the Democrats got Obama-care going in the first place. This is critical. His ruling means Congress can’t compel American citizens to purchase anything. Ever. The notion is now officially and forever, unconstitutional. As it should be.

    Next, he stated that, because Congress doesn’t have the ability to mandate, it must, to fund Obama-care, rely on its power to tax. Therefore, the mechanism that funds Obama-care is a tax. This is also critical. Recall back during the initial Obama-care battles, the Democrats called it a penalty, Republicans called it a tax. Democrats consistently soft sold it as a penalty. It went to vote as a penalty. Obama declared endlessly, that it was not a tax, it was a penalty. But when the Democrats argued in front of the Supreme Court, they said ‘hey, a penalty or a tax, either way’. So, Roberts gave them a tax. It is now the official law of the land — beyond word-play and silly shenanigans. Obama-care is funded by tax dollars. Democrats now must defend a tax increase to justify the Obama-care law.

    Finally, h...







    Here’s what really occurred — payback. Yes, payback for Obama’s numerous, ill-advised and childish insults directed toward SCOTUS.

    Chief Justice Roberts actually ruled the mandate, relative to the commerce clause, was unconstitutional. That’s how the Democrats got Obama-care going in the first place. This is critical. His ruling means Congress can’t compel American citizens to purchase anything. Ever. The notion is now officially and forever, unconstitutional. As it should be.

    Next, he stated that, because Congress doesn’t have the ability to mandate, it must, to fund Obama-care, rely on its power to tax. Therefore, the mechanism that funds Obama-care is a tax. This is also critical. Recall back during the initial Obama-care battles, the Democrats called it a penalty, Republicans called it a tax. Democrats consistently soft sold it as a penalty. It went to vote as a penalty. Obama declared endlessly, that it was not a tax, it was a penalty. But when the Democrats argued in front of the Supreme Court, they said ‘hey, a penalty or a tax, either way’. So, Roberts gave them a tax. It is now the official law of the land — beyond word-play and silly shenanigans. Obama-care is funded by tax dollars. Democrats now must defend a tax increase to justify the Obama-care law.

    Finally, he struck down as unconstitutional, the Obama-care idea that the federal government can bully states into complying by yanking their existing medicaid funding. Liberals, through Obama-care, basically said to the states — ‘comply with Obama-care or we will stop existing funding.’ Roberts ruled that is a no-no. If a state takes the money, fine, the Feds can tell the state how to run a program, but if the state refuses money, the federal government can’t penalize the state by yanking other funding. Therefore, a state can decline to participate in Obama-care without penalty. This is obviously a serious problem. Are we going to have 10, 12, 25 states not participating in “national” health-care? Suddenly, it’s not national, is it?

    Ultimately, Roberts supported states rights by limiting the federal government’s coercive abilities. He ruled that the government can not force the people to purchase products or services under the commerce clause and he forced liberals to have to come clean and admit that Obama-care is funded by tax increases.

    Although he didn’t guarantee Romney a win, he certainly did more than his part and should be applauded.

    And he did this without creating a civil war or having bricks thrown through his windshield. Oh, and he’ll be home in time for dinner.

    Brilliant.
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  • Apache 2012/06/30 01:47:31
    Apache
    +3
    Obama is my shepherd; I shall not work.
    He keepeth jobs out of the hands of the people,
    He leadeth the country into class warfare and polarization.
    He encourageth sloth; he leadeth in deficit spending.
    Yea, though I walk in the shadow of economic collapse,
    I shall fear no depression, for Obama is with me.
    His handouts and foodstamps supplement my income.
    He maintainest spending increases beyond insurmountable debt;
    He punisheth businesses with excessive regulations;
    And giveth the hard-earned fruits of my labor to illegals.
    Surely, handouts and stimulus shall follow all the days of his administration;
    And I will stay unemployed forever and ever.

    Amen
  • words to live by 2012/06/30 00:31:58
    words to live by
    +1
    I have insurance at the moment. But, I'm not convinced I will be able to keep it. All insurance companies will sooner or later have to close their doors.
  • rustyshackelford 2012/06/30 00:10:12
  • WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/29 23:19:43
    WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    We will all end up paying for those who cannot pay, and the Democrats trying to tell us we don't have to pay if we have insurance already are full of crap, the bill for those who cannot pay has to be paid...by the taxpayers.

    Democrats are lying liars and conmen.
  • lonewolf 2012/06/29 23:07:08 (edited)
    lonewolf
    +3
    a joke.its a tax
  • Chokmah lonewolf 2012/06/30 01:33:20
    Chokmah
    +2
    "If it walks like a duck, and acts like a duck and talks like a duck... then it's a Duck!"

    Obamacare is a TAX!
  • lonewolf Chokmah 2012/06/30 01:35:02
    lonewolf
    +1
    better believe it
  • 'Zedd 2012/06/29 23:05:42 (edited)
  • WhereIs... 'Zedd 2012/06/29 23:20:13
    WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    Dear leader is a liar.
  • 'Zedd WhereIs... 2012/06/29 23:28:00
  • Waldorf 2012/06/29 23:01:06 (edited)
    Waldorf
    +2
    The tax isn't high enough to make people want to afford health care insurance. It is just a scam to to raise revenue for the general fund. My understanding is that the tax (penalty) is $95 or 1% of net taxable income, whichever is higher. Give me a break...health insurance costs thousands. Nothing changes except people paying a new tax. People at sufficiently low income levels will pay nothing (no $95 minimum).

    If they're serious, that penalty-tax needs to be high enough to be comparable to insurance costs or at least genuinely punitive and painful.
  • WhereIs... Waldorf 2012/06/29 23:21:01
    WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Exactly, just another way to extort money from us by the tax and spend liberal scum.
  • 'Zedd Waldorf 2012/06/29 23:29:05
  • words t... Waldorf 2012/06/30 00:35:41
  • Teri- Oregon 2012/06/29 22:35:40
    Teri- Oregon
    +6
    Lying, thieving, socialistic, dog eating, cheating, unconstitutional bastard can take his obamacare and shove it up his ass.
  • Drue-AFCL Teri- O... 2012/06/30 02:14:39
  • 'Zedd Teri- O... 2012/06/30 13:50:49
  • Teri- O... 'Zedd 2012/07/01 00:48:31
    Teri- Oregon
    +1
    I like it :)
  • mac9 2012/06/29 22:33:56
    mac9
    +5
    There is no new Obama. Only now people know what a huge liar he is ans scumbag he is. I can't believe this imposter was elected in the first place.
  • Chokmah 2012/06/29 22:32:55
    Chokmah
    +5
    If Obamacare wanted to hire 16,000 doctors or nurses, or turn out that many over the next few years to help with healthcare, then I would give it serious consideration. But when a purported healthcare plane strives to hire 16,000 IRS Gestapo to give the American people better healthcare???? ... THEN IT'S TIME TO SCRAP THIS OBAMANATION BEFORE IT'S FULLY ENACTED!!!!
  • Manster 2012/06/29 22:03:34 (edited)
    Manster
    +7
    I already have medical insurance that I pay for.
  • Don Leuty 2012/06/29 21:49:51
    Don Leuty
    +9
    The label on the suit may have changed, but the odor still hangs heavily in the air.
  • bman~AVA Don Leuty 2012/06/29 22:08:50
    bman~AVA
    +3
    You're right there Don.
  • Demonic Rat Hunter 2012/06/29 21:47:23 (edited)
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +5
    Next they will tax (Fine) you if you do not love honor and obey the Messiah obama.
    nhj
    obama messiah



    Guess we're gonna be taxed to death even faster obama messiah
  • bman~AVA Demonic... 2012/06/29 22:09:50
    bman~AVA
    +2
    You're right my friend. The way it's currently going it will happen for sure. Good comment
  • bman~AVA 2012/06/29 21:45:53
    bman~AVA
    +3
    My thoughts are that as a result of the latest ruling by the turn coat Roberts that we are now on our way to becoming a socialist nation. As a result of his ruling then he's now opened up the door to more government intrusion into our lives. That's what I'm thinking.
  • Drue-AFCL 2012/06/29 21:40:01
  • bman~AVA Drue-AFCL 2012/06/29 22:01:49
    bman~AVA
    +2
    Good video miss Druebeall.
  • Drue-AFCL bman~AVA 2012/06/29 22:02:46
    Drue-AFCL
    +2
    Thank you. . . . . . and you can call me Drue!
  • bman~AVA Drue-AFCL 2012/06/29 22:08:07
    bman~AVA
    +2
    O.k. miss Drue. I remember now. You told me your name once before. It's been awhile though. Many thanks sweet lady. And I'm Brian.
  • GeorgeA... Drue-AFCL 2012/06/30 07:25:10
    GeorgeAMartini
    So he wants to end all welfare?! They are not paying their fair share. WTH?

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