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What a wonderful trade. Obama hidden records for Mitts Tax return

HOMBRE 2012/08/07 13:42:04
Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for old taxes done over the years
Im a liberal and there is no need to see what is in Obama sealed away records of his radical life
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Donald Trump is calling on Obama to release his sealed records in exchange for Gov. Mitt Romney’s tax returns, declaring it would be “a wonderful trade.”


“I’ve said it a lot, that if Obama opened up his records, maybe Mitt should give his returns,” Trump told Fox News’ “Fox & Friends.” “That would be a great trade. I guarantee it would be a really wonderful trade.”


Trump offered a list of sealed documents he believes Obama should present for the deal.


“I’d like to see his college records,” he said. “I’d like to see his college applications. I’d like to see something about his past, which many people know nothing about. I’d like to see his passport records, which are sealed.


“You know, Obama spent over $4 million in legal fees to keep these things quiet, and then he stands up and says ‘I want to see his tax returns.’ He’s given tax returns. And if they give more – and I understand what Mitt’s saying, they’re very, very complex and 100 percent straight, 100 percent legal – but they look at little nitpicking things, and then you have another month of debate. Now if Obama gives some of his sealed records where all of this money has been spent to keep them sealed, I would certainly make that trade. I think that’s a great trade. … I think you would find some things that are very, very interesting and very shocking.”


It is unclear where Trump learned of the $4 million figure he cites.


However, as WND reported, Robert Bauer is a former partner at Perkins Coie and former top lawyer for Obama, Obama’s presidential campaign, the Democratic National Committee and Obama’s Organizing for America. He is the same lawyer who defended President Obama in lawsuits challenging his eligibility to be president.


In 2009, WND reported Obama had paid Perkins Coie, a single law firm, $2.6 million between the time he announced his campaign for presidency and November 2009, the month Bauer left his position at Perkins Coie to become White House counsel. (By contrast, a cumulative total of all of Sen. John McCain’s legal consulting fees, from Jan. 1, 2007, to October 2009, amounted to only $1.6 million.)


WND also reported that Bauer sent a letter to plaintiff Gregory Hollister, a retired Air Force colonel, of Hollister v. Soetoro, threatening sanctions if he didn’t withdraw his appeal of the eligibility case that earlier was tossed by a district judge because the issue already had been “twittered.”


“For the reasons stated in Judge Robertson’s ruling, the suit is frivolous and should not be pursued,” Bauer’s letter warned. “Should you decline to withdraw this frivolous appeal, please be informed that we intend to pursue sanctions, including costs, expenses, and attorneys’ fees, pursuant to Federal Rule of Appellate Procedure 38 and D.C. Circuit Rule 38.”


Bauer had also represented Obama and the DNC in Philip Berg’s eligibility lawsuit and various other legal challenges.


Obama’s payments to Perkins Coie covered a variety of legal expenses – not just expenses related to eligibility lawsuits. (Since the FEC isn’t legally required to provide specific details on its forms, Obama’s payment records do not spell out the exact amount he spent on representation in eligibility lawsuits.)


According to a 2011 Roll Call report, DNC National Press Secretary Hari Sevugan claimed Obama “incurred ordinary legal expenses … which are proportional to the unprecedented size of this campaign.”


However, the report noted, “Sevugan said some legal fees were needed to defend the campaign against ‘unmeritorious’ suits, including one challenging Obama’s citizenship.”


Trump told “Fox & Friends,” “He’s spending millions of dollars in legal fees to hide it, and most of the presidents, by the way, have released their college applications and their college records. And a lot of questions are being raised by a lot of different people.”


Asked what Romney must do in the weeks leading up to the convention, Trump warned, “I think he’s got to be very tough. He’s a very nice man. He’s a very smart man. He’s a very honorable man, and now he’s really got to get tough because they are playing down and dirty with him.”

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  • SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY 2012/08/07 15:57:21 (edited)
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY
    +12
    Dingy Reid had to jump in with his 2 cents worth so he needs to pony up as well.

    what a maroon

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  • Cliff 2012/08/08 04:31:41
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    Cliff
    It's the old "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" deal. I like it.
  • John Wa... Cliff 2012/08/08 09:19:54
    John Walker II
    Trump is also one of the ones that started the Birther movement who demanded to see Obama's birth cert...

    Seems like he never really got over that.
  • ed 2012/08/08 01:26:45
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    ed
    what really needs to be done is neither of them can be on a states ballot until this is cleared up[for the misguided liberals that means obama or Romney can run for president]
  • Gracie - Proud Conservative 2012/08/08 00:16:00
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    Works for me...lay it out there boys and let us decide!
  • Tennessee3501 2012/08/08 00:06:01
    All of the above
    Tennessee3501
    No transcripts, no tax returns!
  • Phyl *In God i Trust* 2012/08/07 23:52:42
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    Phyl *In God i Trust*
    We know Bama by now if he does give up some of his records they would be full of lies.
  • Icono1 2012/08/07 20:41:38
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    Icono1
    +2
    Sounds like a plan. But I'm not going to hold my breath on this one.

    Maybe Romney needs to ask for 0bie's and Harry's IRS records for the last 10 years as a one on one match up.

    I'm with Romney on wanting to know who the snitch is though, and if it is a legit snitch, or something just made up for public consumption.
  • BigFig#9 2012/08/07 19:56:49
    Im a liberal and there is no need to see what is in Obama sealed away records...
    BigFig#9
    It actually would be nice if all those records traditionally sealed by presidents when they entered office were put through the scrutiny of 'is this really necessary'. That said there's no precedent for 25 year old school transcripts while there is a well established tradition of revealing tax records that was started by Romney's dad and it's clear that 20+ year old school records have much less to do with public policy than recent tax records. Yes, I know McCain only did 2 years but as a Senator his records were not only known to the public, but also a matter of public filings he makes as a Senator. Romney's been in private world and amassed a fortune (Good for him) but lets see how he's done it, and who he's encumbered to. Since a large part of this year's debate in particular centers on tax policy and Romney's desire to make tax burden less for the wealthy lets see just how bad the IRS has made it for him over the years - I'm sure it's been a gruesome tale of abuse---what a time or do where he's paid as much as $13.9%! At the end of the day the question is 'Why is Barrack Obama expected to reveal more records than any other candidate or incumbent in exchange for Romney revealing what is a clearly established precedent.'. My guess is it has something to do with an Arab name and an African father but that would be pulling out the race card and we all know that the US has no history or present racist tendencies so I guess that would be unfair..
  • Robshock 2012/08/07 19:36:29
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    Robshock
    +2
    It is only fair.
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/08/07 19:08:25
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +3
    That would be a good trade. And while we're on that subject, let's have a debate on what's wrong with making a lot of money.
  • keeper 2012/08/07 19:00:49
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    keeper
    +3
    I'd go for that trade... BHO is hiding a lot more than what Romney has paid in taxes!
  • jimmy d 2012/08/07 18:37:20
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    jimmy d
    +2
    I love Trump. The only one with b*lls to stand up to the radical SOB's in the socialist party!!!
  • ☆56lady☆POTL~JLA~PWCM 2012/08/07 18:14:59
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    ☆56lady☆POTL~JLA~PWCM
    +3
    Sounds fair to me !!

    How about it Obama ???
  • none 2012/08/07 18:10:18
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    none
    +4
    That sounds like a fair plan to me.
  • zapped 2012/08/07 17:56:24
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    zapped
    +4
    seems fair ...but all thats required is for 2 yrs of returns ..

    obama has far more to hide !
  • Cain 2012/08/07 17:47:03
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    Cain
    +2
    Take off the gloves Mitt. America needs to know what this guy is hiding!
    This sounds like a fair trade, let's hope that Romney has the courage to demand this. You have been called a Liar, Cheat & Felon. Now it is time to knock this Fake Out!
  • RogerRover 2012/08/07 17:32:54
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    RogerRover
    +5
    Let's lay our cards on the table, oh transparent one.
  • Always Right 2012/08/07 17:20:27
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    Always Right
    +4
    I didn't know 0bama was up to 4 million in cost to keep his past hidden.
  • Jeff Smith 2012/08/07 17:18:18
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    Jeff Smith
    +1
    And let's not forget those two Cant Understand Normal Thinking.'s in DC Wasserman and Pelosi
  • Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody 2012/08/07 17:05:02
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    +2
    I'll support that.
  • LesWaggoner BN 1 2012/08/07 16:57:18
    Ya what a fair trade.Obama hidden records and a real birth certificate for ol...
    LesWaggoner BN 1
    What a way to show Obamas inteligence vs Romneys greed.
  • HOMBRE LesWagg... 2012/08/07 17:06:53
    HOMBRE
    +3
    I think Romney has more intelligence.Look at the money he made. Obama makes money stealing from peoples taxes
    obama what me worry
  • LesWagg... HOMBRE 2012/08/07 18:15:33
    LesWaggoner BN 1
    Apparently you think money equals intelligence. Where does that leave you?
    At least we know our money isn't going into Obamas pocket.
  • jimmy d LesWagg... 2012/08/07 18:42:29
    jimmy d
    +1
    Why would you want to amass all power to reid, obama, pelosi, jarrett, sustein, van jones? Socialism doesn't work. Never has never will. Is that why you moved? Maybe we all should if ocraphead manipulates the voting and gets elected again.
  • LesWagg... jimmy d 2012/08/07 19:08:36
    LesWaggoner BN 1
    It must be frustrating to have so little knowledge.
    Socialism is a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
    I moved to Costa Rica to provide financial aid for the education of seven kids.

    Stooping to name calling is an indication of a low intelligence and a lack of argument.
  • HOMBRE LesWagg... 2012/08/07 19:42:40
  • LesWagg... HOMBRE 2012/08/08 20:23:51
  • jimmy d LesWagg... 2012/08/07 18:40:38
    jimmy d
    +1
    obama is intelligent? No he's a good orator that is all. You must STILL falling for that "super teleprompter reader" again....!
  • Guru_T_Firefly 2012/08/07 16:54:14
    All of the above
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +2
    Actually, NONE OF THE ABOVE. Obama has already released his tax returns. When will Romney follow suit?
  • HOMBRE Guru_T_... 2012/08/07 16:55:19
    HOMBRE
    +3
    He did what was required
  • Guru_T_... HOMBRE 2012/08/07 17:25:42
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +1
    I guess he DOES want people to think that he's hiding something. Personally, I think he's trying to avoid showing the America people that he paid no taxes at all over the last decade. That ought to sit real good with voters in November, shouldn't it?
  • HOMBRE Guru_T_... 2012/08/07 17:31:10
    HOMBRE
    +2
    I think we have IRS for that.It seems to me Dem's in Obama circle all have problems with paying taxes
  • Guru_T_... HOMBRE 2012/08/07 19:49:01
    Guru_T_Firefly
    You know, it's funny how you guys are always bitching about full-disclosure unless it's from one of your own guys.
  • jimmy d Guru_T_... 2012/08/07 18:46:10
    jimmy d
    What are you Reid's parrot? He's pond scum and so are you with your baseless libel.
  • Guru_T_... jimmy d 2012/08/07 19:49:36
    Guru_T_Firefly
    You know, it's funny how you guys are always bitching about full-disclosure unless it's from one of your own guys.
  • HOMBRE Guru_T_... 2012/08/07 19:50:21
    HOMBRE
    Why didnt Kerry do it?
  • Guru_T_... HOMBRE 2012/08/08 05:41:49
    Guru_T_Firefly
    LOL! Are you trying to tell me that Kerry had a chance of winning the election even if he had? The same goes for Mitt right now. He can't win anyway, so why not put it out there for people to see? At least, if he has nothing to hide, America would see it.
  • jimmy d Guru_T_... 2012/08/07 18:46:54
    jimmy d
    Hurry run to your mail box. Your food stamps have probably arrived.....
  • Guru_T_... jimmy d 2012/08/07 19:52:47
    Guru_T_Firefly
    Not me. I'm retired and living comfortably off of my own savings, but you know, it's interesting how you guys are always pissing and moaning and bitching like little girls about full-disclosure unless it's from one of your own guys. It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.
  • zapped Guru_T_... 2012/08/07 18:01:01
    zapped
    +3
    what about (soetoros ) application records from all the universities ... ?

    that he's paid to have sealed !

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