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Welfare Spending Equals $168 Per Day For Every Household In Poverty

zbacku 2013/01/12 06:30:52
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  • Shifting Piece 2013/01/12 16:54:36
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    +1
    That's insanity.
  • ZenerSix 2013/01/12 07:06:37
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    Nonsense. I'm about as dirt poor is it gets and only qualify for $138 a month in food stamps. I don't qualify for most other forms of welfare because I'm not handicapped and don't have any children. Handicapped and children is what most of it goes to.
  • Lady Wh... ZenerSix 2013/01/12 14:20:57
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    +1
    hear ya
  • zbacku ZenerSix 2013/01/12 17:19:32
    zbacku
    The facts are there for all to see. Just because you do not 'qualify' for welfare, doesn't change the facts.
  • GoDucks5 2013/01/12 07:05:42
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    None of their bills are going to totaled $168 a day. My family is above the poverty line and our bills don't even total that.
  • TheTruth1313 2013/01/12 06:52:45
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    +1
    Yet another problem that our illustrious corrupt "leaders" seem to wish to attempt to sweep under the rug rather then deal with. Their philosophy seems to be to just keep giving the entitled money to shut them up.
  • RTHTGakaRoland 2013/01/12 06:49:54
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    +3
    Government "programs for the poor" are not for the poor, but for politicians and bureaucrats.
  • sglmom 2013/01/12 06:33:04
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    +1
    WAY past the time to CUT THE DOLE ..

    CUT all extra increments for additional dependents ..
    HARD Limits that are there and stuck to as well ..
    make them PAY TAXES on the dole as well ..

    This is SICKENING ..
  • Lady Wh... sglmom 2013/01/12 14:21:44
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    We need jobs so people don't have to be on welfare.
  • sglmom Lady Wh... 2013/01/13 03:36:39
    sglmom
    +1
    We can't have JOBS when the FED is stealing so much from us ..
    Have you done this experiment?
    With all your bills .. every last one of them ..
    from the fed on down ..
    start tracking and adding up ..
    every line item that says TAX overall ..
    when one does this ..
    counts everything ..

    Taxes on Devices, Taxes on Foods (That are taxable)
    Taxes on your Utilities, vehicles, licenses, fees ..
    Taxes on your purchases ..
    Taxes on Services too ..
    taxes on your disposal,
    Taxes on Property, Distributions, Income, Fica .. etc ..
    Fed, State, Local Income Taxes
    Taxes that are new that have increased your health care costs (because of obiecare .. yep .. I've had MY own health care costs increase in triple digits because of ObieCare)
    etc etc etc ..

    AFTER I've done this ..
    it is now well over half .. (at all levels)
    and that is sad indeed ..
    when businesses operate on such a slim, slim margin nowadays ..
    when the costs of licenses/fees to establish the business legally ..
    when the costs of certificates is also high too ..

    Needless to say ...
    there's NOTHING LEFT at all .. to reinvest into the business to GROW new business opportunities and innovate .. expand .. hire more ..

    and with the NEW Taxes .. it is even worse ..

    Want jobs, want business ..
    SHRINK Government .. and stop the out of control spendi...


































    We can't have JOBS when the FED is stealing so much from us ..
    Have you done this experiment?
    With all your bills .. every last one of them ..
    from the fed on down ..
    start tracking and adding up ..
    every line item that says TAX overall ..
    when one does this ..
    counts everything ..

    Taxes on Devices, Taxes on Foods (That are taxable)
    Taxes on your Utilities, vehicles, licenses, fees ..
    Taxes on your purchases ..
    Taxes on Services too ..
    taxes on your disposal,
    Taxes on Property, Distributions, Income, Fica .. etc ..
    Fed, State, Local Income Taxes
    Taxes that are new that have increased your health care costs (because of obiecare .. yep .. I've had MY own health care costs increase in triple digits because of ObieCare)
    etc etc etc ..

    AFTER I've done this ..
    it is now well over half .. (at all levels)
    and that is sad indeed ..
    when businesses operate on such a slim, slim margin nowadays ..
    when the costs of licenses/fees to establish the business legally ..
    when the costs of certificates is also high too ..

    Needless to say ...
    there's NOTHING LEFT at all .. to reinvest into the business to GROW new business opportunities and innovate .. expand .. hire more ..

    and with the NEW Taxes .. it is even worse ..

    Want jobs, want business ..
    SHRINK Government .. and stop the out of control spending put on OUR Backs .. period ..

    and definitely start by doing the common sense thing ..
    which is ..
    what job do you know gives incremental bounces upwards for each new 'dependent' that one has? What job enables procreation in an irresponsible way?
    I'd say first thing to look at is cutting public aide to just one basic amount ..
    (cut out all the extra increments .. just one amount.. period)
    and also cut out ALL Extra-national Aid too .. (as well as all aid to any who are NOT Citizens .. period .. ZERO to them)
    When we get the UN off our backs .. as well as get off our backs all the extra-nationals who have made outward statements of HATE and DEATH towards US Citizens ..
    we can start to breathe ..
    then let's cut back the Pay of all these politicians ..
    cut out all their perks and staffing ..
    (especially no to staffing for any spouse of a politician)
    and require that they pick up the full cost of all their 'extras' ..
    (including their vacations .. I can't afford one .. why should a politician have vacations from vacations?)

    This is a start ..

    I've done this poll before ..
    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...

    POS Politicians SEIZE and do NOT pay our Military Continuation Pay (Retirement pay)
    yet ..
    at the same time in the past 4 months ..
    have forced upon us a 15% increase in health care premiums (1 Oct 2012 -- we pay this out of our OTHER Earnings)
    have already tripled our fees, premiums and co-pays, deductibles (as well as other costs) with the addition of dependents up to 26 yrs of age ..
    have in place (1 Feb 13) the plan to increase at least 50% to more than double the costs of prescription medications as well as deny some prescriptions for service-connect injuries
    already don't have the capabilities to treat all the service-connect injuries and we are paying out of pocket for our care (which is not covered under civilian policies .. they do NOT cover what happened while one was on Military Duty)
    and now on 1 Apr 13 -- they will be transitioning off of one tier of Tricare to a lower level (with higher costs .. ) those who are beyond an even tighter circle around military health services (forcing them onto the civilian market to bear more costs on their own)
    etc etc etc ..
    YET .. flitting everywhere is the politician .. vacationing and having a good time ..
    while the ones who serve (have served honorably) .. do NOT get paid AND .. have to pay for their injuries out of pocket ..

    TELL me what is wrong with this ..
    when those on WELFARE are comfortable and free care is available ..
    but the MILITARY .. the one who served faithfully and well .. are DENIED their pay and then have to bear the costs of their care too?
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  • zbacku Lady Wh... 2013/01/13 04:28:02
    zbacku
    Just where do you think the jobs will come from? The economy is in the tank and government regulations and the tax burden has made it just about impossible to create the jobs needed in the Private Sector.

    And now with Obamacare, anyone...........I'll repeat that..ANYONE working over 30 hours will be considered to be Full Time workers. Thus, even Part Time jobs will be loss.
  • Lady Wh... zbacku 2013/01/13 10:42:31
    Lady Whitewolf
    "Just where do you think the jobs will come from...?"

    And WHAT did the Uber-wealthy do with the nice big TAX CUTS? Wasn't that the whole purpose OF those tax cuts? So they could create jobs?

    Seems to me our lovely little "job creators" WEREN'T!
  • ZenerSix sglmom 2013/01/12 16:14:47 (edited)
    ZenerSix
    What's sickening is how we tolerate the federal government depriving us of our property rights in order to secure the intellectual property rights of the corporate monopolies they're invested in. Monopolies who don't create enough jobs to compensate us for our inability to employ ourselves. Monopolies who profit the most from paying the top 47% hardest working Americans the lowest wages, or move their factories overseas to take advantage of slave labor in non-democratic countries. And it's sickening how willing the middle class is to believe that it's poor welfare recipients who are taking them to the cleaners rather than the axis of evil- big government and big businesses.

    I want to eliminate welfare too but, not before we eliminate the intellectual fallacy that necessitates welfare to begin with.
  • sglmom ZenerSix 2013/01/13 03:45:58 (edited)
    sglmom
    Riddle me this ..
    how can one try this argument ..
    when there's .. this happening

    "TOO BIG TO FAIL" ..
    GOVERNMENT Bailing of the 'too big to fail' ..
    and oh, my .. consolidation gains access to the corrupt in politics too ..
    government-sponsored monopsonies .. monopolies ..
    government-sponsored and using OUR Tax dollars on corporate that are to benefit solely their sponsors (unions -- hint, hint .. GM falls under this)
    Government-Sponsored Oligopolies .. limited number by design .. government says this is what it is ..
    when Nationalized businesses happen .. there's no competition .. no incentive to innovate, expand the marketplace ..

    GET Government OUT of the role of free markets ..
    stop the take over of losing .. inefficient businesses/industries ..
    let Bankruptcies happen ..
    don't enable with OUR Tax Dollars (over and over again) FAILURES that are feeding off the taxpayers backs (all because they have access through their purchase of that access to the politician)

    We've got a bloated GOVERNMENT Employment rolls at this time ..
    duplicate departments and divisions ..
    all intertwined with conflicting regulations and rules ..
    stepping on each other ..
    why do we need Czars and Department Secretaries ..
    why do we need GAO, CBO, and all the other auditing departments too
    do we need so m...





    Riddle me this ..
    how can one try this argument ..
    when there's .. this happening

    "TOO BIG TO FAIL" ..
    GOVERNMENT Bailing of the 'too big to fail' ..
    and oh, my .. consolidation gains access to the corrupt in politics too ..
    government-sponsored monopsonies .. monopolies ..
    government-sponsored and using OUR Tax dollars on corporate that are to benefit solely their sponsors (unions -- hint, hint .. GM falls under this)
    Government-Sponsored Oligopolies .. limited number by design .. government says this is what it is ..
    when Nationalized businesses happen .. there's no competition .. no incentive to innovate, expand the marketplace ..

    GET Government OUT of the role of free markets ..
    stop the take over of losing .. inefficient businesses/industries ..
    let Bankruptcies happen ..
    don't enable with OUR Tax Dollars (over and over again) FAILURES that are feeding off the taxpayers backs (all because they have access through their purchase of that access to the politician)

    We've got a bloated GOVERNMENT Employment rolls at this time ..
    duplicate departments and divisions ..
    all intertwined with conflicting regulations and rules ..
    stepping on each other ..
    why do we need Czars and Department Secretaries ..
    why do we need GAO, CBO, and all the other auditing departments too
    do we need so much staff for one person?
    why are these also doing the same function as the other?

    Isn't it time that this BIG BLOATED government be dismantled and taken apart so that FREE Citizens can get some relief?

    and isnt' it time we stop making it profitable for those to STAY on welfare ..
    (where else do you find work .. that gives you incremental boosts in profit/income for having additional DEPENDENTS????)
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