We only need one concept to make America great again...PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY! Do you agree?

by Gracie - Proud Conservative Posted 2012/06/18 02:14:24

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What year did personal responsibility die? It was alive when I was a child and I believe it was somewhat still with us when my child was in school. Now it's nowhere to be found, even at the top! If we could just revive it and re-institute it again, we could excel! Why can't people be responsible for their own actions?

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Rodney 2012/06/18 05:11:49

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You may disagree with me, but I put the initial start of that loss in about 1964 with the start of LBJ's Great Society experiment. That is when the nanny state was truly born. Every year that it has grown, so goes the idea of personal responsibility.
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ACE 2012/06/20 02:08:02

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agreed

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Gracie ... to ACE 2012/06/20 02:14:47

Save the date! LOL!

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Uranos7 2012/06/19 03:11:10

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if your fat it is not your fault.
If you lack education it is not your fault.
If you do not have a job it is not your fault.
Welcome to today's society where everyone is a winner, no one is a looser, and nothing is your fault, yet everyone looses.
Those that beg for more entitlements do not realize that they pay for these gifts with their dignity, and have forgotten how to stand on their own two feet.

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Ambassador II 2012/06/18 22:11:51

And, if we could raise the dead we could all retire and let them work for us as you claim that older folks were more "responsible". While I agree with your premise, I think you are barking at the moon as our population are now the employees of large public corporations and have little incentive to do more than pay the bills at the end of the month while lending their excess cash to the Reagan Banks with regular deposits to their 401k and other savings accounts.

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Gracie ... to Ambassa... 2012/06/18 22:15:47

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Don't let your bias show so blatantly.

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texasred to Ambassa... 2012/06/19 04:22:41

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Older folks ARE more responsible. Even illegals think our young people are "jerks." http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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Ambassa... to texasred 2012/06/19 04:32:59

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Couldn't agree more.

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Carl 2012/06/18 21:31:54

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Too interested in their rights without recognizing their responsibilities.

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Gracie ... to Carl 2012/06/18 21:47:50

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You know, responsibilities are only talked about when it comes to paying more taxes for those who don't. What responsibilities do all people have to their country and their communities. Is being responsible for yourself such a formidable task?

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Carl to Gracie ... 2012/06/18 21:50:14

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Responsibility starts in the home with the parents, grandparents, etc. teaching the children what it means and why you must act in a responsible manner.

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Gracie ... to Carl 2012/06/18 22:16:42

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Yes, and what do we teach our children when we constantly tell them that nothing is your fault and nothing is their fault. It's perpetual dependency.

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Carl to Gracie ... 2012/06/19 04:43:03

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Yes, the "me generation" at its best.

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my2cents 2012/06/18 21:19:28

Personal responsibility died in the fall of 2008, when TARP was passed.

The President who included personal responsibility as part of his "ownership society" platform dealt the dead blow himself.

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Gracie ... to my2cents 2012/06/18 21:49:43

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Awww, so predictable. It's always about Bush. Who screwed America over with the housing debacle? Don't think it was Bush! This is what I'm talking about, always pointing a finger at someone else and not taking personal responsibility.

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J 2012/06/18 20:55:41

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"Personal Responsibility"? What is that? Oh, wait I remember - it's just been a few years.

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Gracie ... to J 2012/06/18 21:50:26

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Yes, the years before you could blame anything on anyone and even get a lawyer to sue for you! Where did it go?

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Ken 2012/06/18 20:07:55

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Yes.

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Daniel Secrist 2012/06/18 17:59:46

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Responsibility for what, and to whom? 80% of the people who could vote, don't. They don't see the point. Regardless of how bad unemployment has gotten, most of us still work for a living, and as a nation our productivity at work has increased, steadily, year in and year out, since the end of WWII. The GNP has increased very year because of it. Why have our wages been stagnant since the '80s? We've been excelling, you idiot! Where has all the wealth we've created gone? Do have equitable share of it? I sure as hell don't. My Mom, who raised my with no government assistance, is living with me now because, after working her ass off for decades, her god-rotting 401K was eaten by snakes, TWICE! Don't talk to me about concepts.

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Gracie ... to Daniel ... 2012/06/18 21:59:53 (edited)

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That's what families always did until we started relying on the government. There is nothing secure about having money in a 401k or stock market. When stocks were so high they had wealth that wasn't real, just like your house being worth $300,000 one year and $100,000 the next. It wasn't real wealth. My mother lived with me for 12 years after my father died.

If you want to know the truth about who did what you need to stop listening to political talking points and read it for yourself. I think you'll be a little surprised at who many of the key players were. It's probably not who you think!

Get back with me when you know who did what.

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sbtbill 2012/06/18 17:50:21

The problem is power. Responsibility can not be held if you don't have the power to be responsible. Example a worker goes to work every day for 10 years. Does everything asked well. Pays all his bills. Puts away 10% of this salary. I.E. does everything right and acts responsibly. On day one of the eleventh year the job is move to China. His skill is no longer valuable. How is this person responsible for being out of work?

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unaff to sbtbill 2012/06/18 19:03:37

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sbtbill,

In answer to your question I'll insert a few more pieces into the timeline (which actually happened in my family).

One day one of the eighth year, he sees that similar jobs in his and other industries are being moved overseas and his skill is becoming obsolete. On day one of the tenth year, he finishes the night vocational training he has enrolled in. On day one of the eleventh year, he's already employed in a better job when his old job is moved to China.

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sbtbill to unaff 2012/06/18 19:27:32

I didn't say that can't happen. I simply wish to point out that the warnings are not always there. The skills and abilities aren't always there. The opportunities aren't always there.

Since you want to toss in additional variables how adding his house is paid up but under water. Now it is very hard to move to get a better job.

People can get locked in.

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unaff to sbtbill 2012/06/18 19:40:10

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Good training in a good career field will allow you to work anywhere. Homes are an investment, which can have positive and negative results. Again, personal responsibility. I chose not to purchase a home during the boom because I thought they were overvalued. It only took a few episodes of 'Flip this House' type shows in the mid-2000s to teach me that. 'We'll install this granite countertop for $5,000 and it will add $20,000 to the price of the house!'

Sorry to be harsh, but purchasing a home certainly falls into the personal responsibility category.

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sbtbill to unaff 2012/06/18 21:11:43

I disagree. By the way I felt the same way about real estate.

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J to sbtbill 2012/06/18 21:18:22

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I lived in a mobile home until I had SAVED the money to buy me a house. Never had a mortgage. You do what you can, and learn that just because the Jones' have it, doesn't mean that you can afford it. If you can't afford the house, find something more affordable. The problem with credit is that it chokes out personal responsibility. IMHO, you should never borrow money for anything except your home, possibly a vehicle, and on occasion, an appliance that might need replaced. But no eating out, movies, or ball games until the "financed" appliance/car are paid off.

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Gracie ... to J 2012/06/18 22:11:24

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How many people sucked the fake equity out of their homes when prices were high. I know many people who bought new cars, put in a pool, went on expensive vacations, all on that equity. Now, their house is underwater and they want to point a finger at everyone else and say it's not fair! You make decisions, you live with them. I've got one I'm not happy about but hey, I did it and I'll pay for it.

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Sparky to sbtbill 2012/06/18 20:13:08
sbtbill to Sparky 2012/06/18 21:10:27

some people are responsible some are not.

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Sparky to sbtbill 2012/06/19 12:19:16 (edited)
J to Sparky 2012/06/18 21:18:47

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That person IS responsible.

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Sparky to J 2012/06/19 12:19:39
Gracie ... to sbtbill 2012/06/18 22:05:30

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Well, I'd say if he saved 10% of his salary for 10 years he has money to get by until he gets another job or can re-educate himself. That is being responsible. For some reason people today think they can live and nothing bad should ever happen to them. If it does, they must blame someone. Every year that I've gone to work, day in and day out, I've thought about what I would do if something happened to my job. You always need a backup plan, the day of starting and finishing your career with the same company are gone.

I've never in my life seen so many people think that government is their nanny! It's only been recently that people considered success to be survival! Now, we're just a bunch of entitled babies.

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Næthan Æterna 2012/06/18 17:04:10

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Agreed. I pride myself on the fact that I don't rely on Government hand-outs to live my life in peace.

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☆ QueenAline 2012/06/18 16:40:45

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harley oldman 2012/06/18 15:56:08

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I agree 100%.....But, I afraid its a pipe dream now. When you have chickensh*t non-leaders at the top what can one expect of the bottom...!

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beachbum 2012/06/18 15:39:11

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1000% agree.........

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EDWARD G 2012/06/18 15:27:59

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I couldn't agree more. We have far too many people running around calling on the government to save them. Save me, save me, save me, it is deafening.

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CrazyDeen0 to EDWARD G 2012/06/18 15:54:44

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It all boils down to what people think the role of government ought to be. Too many people these days want cradle to grave government. THis is why we elect people like Obama and Romney. People are parasites, too inferior to even take care of themselves.

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ronbo 2012/06/18 15:17:49

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Personal responsiblity has been replaced by the devil made me do it.

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boneman1 2012/06/18 15:11:11

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I agree 100%. Big government has created a class of people that have no concept of personal responsibility because there's no incentive to take care of themselves. Government assistance should be just that, assistance. It should not be a sole means of getting by for people that are healthy enough to work. Way too many people have decided they'd rather live off the government than actually work for a living.

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