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Mike56 2012/04/17 01:33:23
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Republicans should be relieved, but not cocky, about the electoral landscape. The states most at risk will very likely be close. But Democrats’ confidence at this point seems unwarranted. It is very easy to spot Romney’s path to 270 electoral votes.



The electoral map reveals how perilous is President Obama’s grip on the White House. Let’s start, as RealClearPolitics does, with a base of 170 electoral votes for Mitt Romney. It’s hard to imagine that Obama could win any of even the less-red states that comprise that batch (e.g. Georgia, Indiana, South Carolina, Montana). To get 100 more and seize the presidency, Romney only needs some states that routinely went Republican before the 2008 race (Nevada, Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Virginia) and needs to hold on to a few that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) managed to win (Arizona, Missouri). This gets Romney to 273.

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  • roboto 2012/04/17 02:27:52
    I agree
    roboto
    +11
    It will be interesting to watch. Even some of the True Believers are having a hard time keeping a straight face when standing up for Obama.

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  • bmacklowe 2012/04/28 18:35:31
    I agree
    bmacklowe
    +1
    It looks much more favorable this year than in 2008. This will not be an easy election for President Obama. He will throw everything, including the "kitchen sink" at Romney. But if the Republicans are well-organized and Independents are as skeptical of the president as they seem, it could be a reversal of fortune for the country.
  • Muriel 2012/04/23 20:00:02
    I agree
    Muriel
    +1
    Sometimes being sure is scary. I never thought in a million years that Bill Clinton would get a second term but he did. Now I take nothing for granted.
  • Mike56 Muriel 2012/04/24 20:13:48
    Mike56
    never take anything for granted - but never give up either. Clinton was not even remotedly as dangerous as Obama
  • Muriel Mike56 2012/04/24 21:45:17
    Muriel
    +1
    Icouldn't agree more.
  • bettyboop 2012/04/19 11:42:29
    I agree
    bettyboop
    +1
    Oh happy day!
  • No nonsense NanC...don't BS... 2012/04/18 00:13:59
    I agree
    No nonsense NanC...don't BS me!
    +2
    I would take nothing for granted. There are still a lot of sheeple in America. We all must continue to work hard to inform others.
  • johnnyg 2012/04/17 17:28:42
    I disagree, I prefer to believe NBC
    johnnyg
    +2
    The sheeple love Obama.
  • rightside 2012/04/17 17:01:56
    I agree
    rightside
    +1
    bama's probably pooping his pants right now.
    obama pooping pants
  • STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL 2012/04/17 16:43:11
    I disagree, I prefer to believe NBC
    STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL
    +3
    Hi Mike,

    Looks like I'm in the minority here, but just counting electoral vote projections isn't enough to get you to an accurate prediction. I admit current polling of voters shows Obama and Romney in a dead heat, and has for the past several weeks. But all this ignores a major issue - fraud.

    We of course will continue to have the "low level" fraud of people voting multiple times, people voting when they are not eligible, people voting in the name of others, etc. But "high level" fraud is a major potential risk. It has been reported that Obama is considering outsourcing electronic vote counting to a Spanish company, one of whose investors is George Soros. I don't know is this report is accurate, but it raises fears. In the 2010 race between Sharron Angle and Harry Reid, Angle was polling 5 points ahead of Reid 36 hours before election day, but ended up losing by 5 points. A ten point swing in 36 hours is hard to fathom (I know polls can swing wildly over weeks or months, but 1.5 days is a short time, even in politics). Until you consider that the voting machines were maintained by the SEIU, a major Reid ally. Numerous voters complained that when they pressed the "Angle" button, Reid would be selected. Sometimes voters would have to press "Angle" as many as five ti...

    Hi Mike,

    Looks like I'm in the minority here, but just counting electoral vote projections isn't enough to get you to an accurate prediction. I admit current polling of voters shows Obama and Romney in a dead heat, and has for the past several weeks. But all this ignores a major issue - fraud.

    We of course will continue to have the "low level" fraud of people voting multiple times, people voting when they are not eligible, people voting in the name of others, etc. But "high level" fraud is a major potential risk. It has been reported that Obama is considering outsourcing electronic vote counting to a Spanish company, one of whose investors is George Soros. I don't know is this report is accurate, but it raises fears. In the 2010 race between Sharron Angle and Harry Reid, Angle was polling 5 points ahead of Reid 36 hours before election day, but ended up losing by 5 points. A ten point swing in 36 hours is hard to fathom (I know polls can swing wildly over weeks or months, but 1.5 days is a short time, even in politics). Until you consider that the voting machines were maintained by the SEIU, a major Reid ally. Numerous voters complained that when they pressed the "Angle" button, Reid would be selected. Sometimes voters would have to press "Angle" as many as five times before the "Angle" selection would stick. And this says nothing about what the machine actually recorded once the "Commit" button was pressed. In numerous cases, poll workers had to help voters with the machines to get the "Angle" choice to stick. One voter even looked on the back of her machine and noted the serial number in an affadavit filed with the state. The machine promptly disappeared without a trace. In all, about 12 voter affadavits were filed with the state of Nevada explaining the issue; the state election commission did nothing but pay lip service to the filings, and the FEC did absolutely nothing (it didn't even acknowledge the issue).

    Stu
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  • Mike56 STU~PWC... 2012/04/17 17:04:35
    Mike56
    +2
    Stu, fraud has been a corner stone of the leftist ideology for ages, as well as ignoriong human rights other than the right to attack "ther rich" if the left bosses point out at.
    Even if 90% would bee against Obama, they still can claim him a "winner". We are discussing the election chances, not conmenship.

    but you are right: we have to check everything and not to be "tolerant" as those on the right who forgive the left sccum everything.
  • STU~PWC... Mike56 2012/04/17 17:59:19
    STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL
    +1
    Sadly, the right is going to suffer some credibility problems as it fights voter fraud on the left. My understanding of this is a bit hazy, but there are reports that have been coming out for the past several weeks that GOP caucuses are being rigged. The basic idea is that in states with caucuses, precinct delegates must vote in concordance with the popular (primary) vote (either proportionately or winner-take-all). When the caucuses are non-binding, delegates (that survive progression) can "change their mind" as they move up from the precinct to the county and finally state caucus levels. So, a delegate could "troll" for say Ron Paul at the precinct level, and if he progresses up the ladder in a non-binding caucus state, he can switch his vote to say Romney. If the delegate reaches the national convention (is ratified at the state level caucus), Paul gets cheated out of an electoral vote. The Democrats are going to use this issue to say "the pot is calling the kettle black." And sadly, there will be some truth to it.
  • Mike56 STU~PWC... 2012/04/18 04:46:57
    Mike56
    +1
    they might say anithing, but internal GOP issues are not excuse for the Dem committed felony.
  • STU~PWC... Mike56 2012/04/18 16:38:35
    STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL
    +1
    You are correct that GOP wrongdoings do not excuse those of the Democrats, but they provide good campaign fodder if GOP's complain about Democrat style voter abuse (mainly ballot stuffing and vote count fraud). Two wrongs never make a right, but wrongs on the GOP side will arm Democrats with the "glass house" rebuttal, neutralizing some of the damage to Obama and his Congressional supporters up for reelection when GOP's complain about Democratic abuses.
  • Mike56 STU~PWC... 2012/04/18 16:54:48
    Mike56
    As if somebody commits a murder, his attorney can refer to garbage in the victim's house as an excuse?
  • STU~PWC... Mike56 2012/04/19 03:55:56
    STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL
    +1
    Well, not exactly. There has been alot of abuse at the voter level (voting/counting) in Democratic primaries as Democrats generally don't use the caucus system (they simply use popular votes to allocate delegates). Some GOP states are primary only, and others are primary (popular vote) followed by caucuses (binding or non-binding selection of delegates relative to the results of the primary). So delegate fraud is mainly a GOP issue.

    What I'm saying is that GOP delegate fraud makes it harder to raise the popular vote fraud issue against Democrats in the general election, because now both sides are dirty.
  • Mike56 STU~PWC... 2012/04/19 13:59:47 (edited)
    Mike56
    +1
    I am saying that fraud during the general election is felony. Is it during primaries?
  • STU~PWC... Mike56 2012/06/09 18:04:09
    STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL
    Definitely. Voting as someone else, or voting when you are not eligible due to residence issues, is just as illegal during primaries as it is during elections.
  • Juan Iota STU~PWC... 2012/04/22 15:50:26
    Juan Iota
    This guy totally understands what you are saying, as I do, but he wants to disregard your (well made I may add) point. You are wasting your breath. GREAT POSTS
  • bmacklowe STU~PWC... 2012/04/28 18:38:44
    bmacklowe
    +1
    Barack Obama won the nomination largely by winning caucuses, so i don't know where this info came from.
  • seadog6608PWCM 2012/04/17 16:31:29
  • ray 2012/04/17 14:45:34
    I agree
    ray
    +4
    The threat level is high ..

    Electronic voting machines don't answer polls , and there is no way on earth to tell what they will register no matter how anyone votes.

    A Spanish company is going to declare a winner and there will be no way possible to recount the votes .
  • Juan Iota ray 2012/04/22 15:50:58
    Juan Iota
    +1
    Its insanity, isnt it?
  • jr 2012/04/17 13:35:47
    I agree
    jr
    +6
    I am cautiously hopeful and will not relax until his clothes are packed and he en-route to Kenya.
  • texasred 2012/04/17 10:44:34
    I agree
    texasred
    +3
    But... I'm cautiously optimistic. I'm very much aware of how Holder and Axelrod work.
  • Brian Tristan MacQuillan 2012/04/17 05:22:01 (edited)
    I agree
    Brian Tristan MacQuillan
    +4
    A clear, unbiased, non-partisan look at the electoral map tells anyone who takes a hard look at things that Obama is done. It could be a ham sandwich running in November, and it would beat Obama, because Obama has beaten Obama.

    Even Romney's Mormonism will not affect his chances, and if things were tight it would, as anti-Mormon sentiment is perhaps the greatest prejudice in the country.

    Anybody who knows what indicators to look at, can then make an educated guess in the states that are "toss ups". Once that is done, the outcome is quite clear.

    In order for that to change, Romney would have to make a very big mistake before November, and that is doubtful.

    Obama on the other hand can widen things up quite nicely by continuing what he has been doing. Fast and Furious continues to develop, and makes Watergate look like child's play. His attack on the Catholic Church was suppose to gain support for part of ObamaCare, and that backfired, tremendously. Sandra Fluke was suppose to be something, I am not sure what, and that backfired. The "GOPs War On Women" is turning out to be a gift to the GOP in general, and to Romney in particular. The defense of ObamaCare in front of the Supreme Court could have been done better by a Pre-Law major college junior. A complete self destruction is in progress.
  • seadog6... Brian T... 2012/04/17 16:34:32
  • Brian T... seadog6... 2012/04/17 20:15:24
    Brian Tristan MacQuillan
    +2
    There you go; perfect.
  • Juan Iota seadog6... 2012/04/22 15:41:18
    Juan Iota
    +1
    LOVE IT! Im in!
  • seadog6... Juan Iota 2012/04/22 20:01:54
  • JAA 2012/04/17 05:21:25
    I agree
    JAA
    +5
    We can't get overly positive about this, as the current POTUS [no peace be upon him] is a liar, a manipulator, and corrupt. Not to mention, he has thugs & evil activists working for him (or is he working for them? It's hard to tell). Keep in mind, he's got Satan, the ruler of cosmos diabolicus, on his side.

    But let not your heart be troubled, as we have God Almighty on the side of the righteous.
  • GINGERBREAD 2012/04/17 04:14:26
    I agree
    GINGERBREAD
    +5
    Yep, right about now, OBAMA's puckering string is beginning to pucker uncontrollably
  • Red Branch 2012/04/17 03:51:19
    I agree
    Red Branch
    +6
    I really hope so, but I won't relax until the votes are in.
  • Juan Iota 2012/04/17 02:54:03 (edited)
    I agree
    Juan Iota
    RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!



    Lets end the madness with what the madmen are calling "a madman"


    P.S. F__K Romney..... F__K him.Let's not go backwards.
    lol
  • Plantgypc 2012/04/17 02:42:53
    I agree
    Plantgypc
    +7
    But I'm not getting over confident. We have to keep fighting the whole 15 rounds. There is no TKO in politics.
  • Wanda5245 - Citizen Activis... 2012/04/17 02:41:09
    I agree
    Wanda5245 - Citizen Activist Who Wants Spunkysmum Back On SH
  • HOMBRE 2012/04/17 02:40:22
    I agree
    HOMBRE
  • JT For Political Reform 2012/04/17 02:39:01
    I agree
    JT For Political Reform
    +9
    I think Obie is out in November.
  • SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY 2012/04/17 02:36:11
    I agree
    SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY
  • ken2ak 2012/04/17 02:28:09
    I agree
    ken2ak
    +9
    Very true. . .
  • roboto 2012/04/17 02:27:52
    I agree
    roboto
    +11
    It will be interesting to watch. Even some of the True Believers are having a hard time keeping a straight face when standing up for Obama.

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