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KCurtis 2012/11/15 23:00:43

One has to wonder, especially when one is continually in contact with
active duty military elite forces, how is it that Ty Woods would have
lit up his enemy mortar fire if he did not think there was some sort of
asset coming?


Doing that would have been suicide. A trained Navy Seal is going to
hold out to the end before expiring options like sending his laser
designator out to illuminate his location. They will always hold out.
They don’t just take a chance like that unless they are in
communications with someone telling them help is on the way.



More and more my insiders think it seems to have been a pull
out, like Blackhawk down where the administration over-rode the military
orders.

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  • Jeb Roberts 1 %'er - POTL -... 2013/03/15 04:09:12
  • Kaleokualoha 2012/12/21 03:06:29
    Kaleokualoha
    It appears that Fox News falsehoods about Benghazi have been definitively debunked:

    [QUOTE]
    WASHINGTON -- An investigation into the State Department's preparations for and management of the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, has concluded that "systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies" within the department played a major role in the devastation that took place there last September.

    Four Americans were killed in the overnight raid on the compound, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens. The ensuing controversy over the incident, and the administration's handling of it, threatened to derail President Barack Obama's reelection campaign through the fall.

    The new report, by an independent Accountability Review Board established by the State Department, concluded that two bureaus at the department -- Near East Affairs and Diplomacy Security -- failed to properly recognize the rising dangers of Eastern Libya despite the lack of any specific threats, and neglected the growing concerns of security analysts on the ground about the capabilities of the local Libyan guard force.

    The result, the report said, was a "security posture that was inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place."

    But while the unclassified v...











































    It appears that Fox News falsehoods about Benghazi have been definitively debunked:

    [QUOTE]
    WASHINGTON -- An investigation into the State Department's preparations for and management of the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, has concluded that "systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies" within the department played a major role in the devastation that took place there last September.

    Four Americans were killed in the overnight raid on the compound, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens. The ensuing controversy over the incident, and the administration's handling of it, threatened to derail President Barack Obama's reelection campaign through the fall.

    The new report, by an independent Accountability Review Board established by the State Department, concluded that two bureaus at the department -- Near East Affairs and Diplomacy Security -- failed to properly recognize the rising dangers of Eastern Libya despite the lack of any specific threats, and neglected the growing concerns of security analysts on the ground about the capabilities of the local Libyan guard force.

    The result, the report said, was a "security posture that was inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place."

    But while the unclassified version of the report, which was released Tuesday night, is undeniably harsh in its analysis of the State Department's management ahead of the attack, it also appears to undermine a number of the more outlandish charges made during the heat of the uproar this fall.

    For instance, while many figures -- led, in large part, by the news analysts at Fox News -- suggested that the administration had opted to watch the crisis unfold rather than send military reinforcements, the report found "no evidence of undue delays in decision making or denial of support from Washington."

    Many critics of the administration had raised question about why a team of specially trained military operators had been dispatched to an airfield in Italy but not, apparently, sent to help fend off the attack.


    Instead, the report concluded that the response by all agencies involved was "timely and appropriate," and despite speculation to the contrary, "there simply was not enough time given the speed of the attacks for armed U.S. military assets to have made a difference."

    Another accusation rebutted by the report was the notion that senior-level officials had in some way refused to permit CIA operatives working out of a nearby annex to travel to the main compound to assist in repelling the attack.

    That detail, first reported by Fox News, was not correct, the report said.

    Instead, a "team leader" at the annex had "decided on his own" to delay leaving the facility briefly to see if local security elements would arrive with reinforcements. After "a brief delay," and determining that they would not, the team leader made the decision to move some units toward the compound, the report said.

    It is also not clear from the report if the attackers of the compound were aware that Ambassador Stevens was there on the night of the attack, or if he was their target.

    The night before the attack, the report notes, local media turned up at an event that the embassy had believed to be an undisclosed meeting with the Benghazi City Council, meaning that at least some people in town were aware of Stevens' visit.

    But amid the frenzy of the attack on Sept. 11, the report found that Stevens did not appear to have been captured by the militants at any point, despite early photographs that appeared to show his body being dragged through the streets.

    Instead, the report said that "to the best knowledge of the Board" he was delivered, unresponsive, to a local hospital by six "good Samaritans" who were among the hordes of attackers. Local doctors spent approximately 45 minutes attempting to resucitate Stevens before concluding he was dead.

    The report also upholds much of the basic outline of the course of events on the ground in Benghazi as described by the State Department in a briefing for reporters that took place almost a month after the attack, and adds some striking details of bravery.

    Two of the security guards accompanying Ambassador Stevens were badly wounded during the attack, the report says, noting that one suffered "a severe laceration" to his forearm while repeatedly entering a smoke-filled room in search of the ambassador, and the other was found vomiting and losing consciousness from smoke inhalation.

    There were other smaller moments of bravery recognized by the report, including a nurse at the embassy in Tripoli who provided essential medical assistance to the evacuees from Benghazi, and a consular officer who donated blood that night to help save the life a of a colleague.

    On the whole, however, these people on the ground were failed by their bosses in Washington, the report said, and a clunky bureaucracy that failed to recognize and adapt to a changing security situation in Eastern Libya, allowing the ambassador to travel to a place where the local security measures had repeatedly proven insufficient.

    The report also acknowledged that with a vastly increased need for security at embassies and consulates in war zones, the Bureau of Diplomatic Security has been "stretched to the limit as never before."

    A consistently limited budget imposed by Congress, the report added, "had the effect of conditioning a few State Department managers to favor restricting the use of resources as a general orientation," which helps explain why the local security officials' calls for more staff was not immediately heeded.

    And while the report does not focus on the more heated controversy about how the Obama administration opted to share information with the public about the raid, it does make clear that the initial claim that the attack was simply an outgrowth of a larger protest is not correct. There was no protest outside the compound, the report states.

    In a letter accompanying the release of the report, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said her department was accepting all 24 of the report's recommendations.
    [END QUOTE http://www.huffingtonpost.com... ]

    It will be interesting to see how Fox tries to spin this report, especially the parts debunking Griffin's falsehoods!

    The report itself is posted at http://www.foxnews.com/politi...

    "The first duty of a man is the seeking after and the investigation of truth." - Cicero (106 BC - 43 BC)
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  • Hamilton 2012/11/23 20:23:59
    Hamilton
    +1
    This needs serious investigation by the House.
  • Joe61 2012/11/21 08:38:10 (edited)
    Joe61
    More information on where and what American tax Dollars are doing in the Middle East including a new incite to the Bengazai diplomatic murders. Watch The video!

    http://pktube.onepakistan.com...
  • mk, Smartass Oracle 2012/11/16 22:55:34
  • KCurtis mk, Sma... 2012/11/17 00:14:16
    KCurtis
    +2
    I got friends in covert places.
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/11/16 19:44:24
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +3
    General Petraeus has since said that his talking points were changed.

    We now know that Susan Rice lied through her pearly whites.
  • Mike 2012/11/16 19:22:32
  • Seonag 2012/11/16 13:17:07
    Seonag
    +3
    Hopefully this won't be swept under the rug, as the administration wants done!
  • Maynard 2012/11/16 12:51:07
    Maynard
    +5
    According to Peon Lennetta.

    They had an asset in Italy ready to take off.


    CRAZY STUFF,

    No one would light up a target with an asset so far away.
  • AL 2012/11/16 09:36:14
    AL
    +5
    If I had any Family member that wanted to join the service now under Obama, I would do everything I could to stop them now!
  • redhorse29 2012/11/16 09:17:34
    redhorse29
    +3
    This entire incident is such a shameful stain on the president and the nation. It is also demonstrates our military leaders are also ready to abandon American soldiers and civilians regardless of how wrong it may be.
  • AL 2012/11/16 09:01:44
    AL
    +3
    I would never let any family member of mine serve under such and incompetent self serving ASS like Obama!
  • NoBama Man 2012/11/16 06:40:14
    NoBama Man
    +6
    This whole thing stinks. I am surprised that NOBODY is asking for testimony from AFRICOM commands General Ham, who was reportedly relieved by h 2IC either the night of the incident of shortly there after...or Admiral of the Mediterranean Strike Force Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette. Both were undoubtedly involved in some way Sept. 11.
    I believe this is a cover up that went horribly wrong....This is what I believe REALLY happened, and we need to start bringing this up until we get REAL answers...check it out if you haven't already and share at your leisure...
    http://allrightiethen.blogspo...
  • susan NoBama Man 2012/11/16 13:29:30
    susan
    +3
    Excellent point.
  • Jeff Smith 2012/11/16 04:43:15
    Jeff Smith
    +6
    The Obama administration screwed the pooch on this then tried to lie about it got caught lying about it and is now trying to cover it up. Simply put they are willing to shovel it we are not going to allow that to happen even the stupids that voted for him can't come up with a good cover. They know he screwed the pooch as well but will deny it since they might lose their free stuff if they do anything that might get their douchebag god in any trouble
  • phil white 2012/11/16 00:20:57 (edited)
    phil white
    +5
    About 25 minutes into the video he talks about Obama purging half a dozen generals and admirals plus 14 more ranking naval officers. This was a purge over about a month in anticipation of a potential coup. Most of it centered around Benghazi gate.

    At the end of the video he says America needs a bloodless revolution against government corruption.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
  • KCurtis phil white 2012/11/16 00:22:30
    KCurtis
    +3
    Well it must have been great, but Youtube pulled it.
  • phil white KCurtis 2012/11/16 00:33:10
    phil white
    +4
    Thanks for the heads up on my bad. I just fixed it.
  • Kronan_1 phil white 2012/11/16 01:02:10
    Kronan_1
    +4
    It works now
  • Ozzyboy phil white 2012/11/16 03:00:26
    Ozzyboy
    +6
    Valerie Jarrett said there would be paybacks. This is what America can expect.
  • NoBama Man phil white 2012/11/16 06:52:43
    NoBama Man
    +3
    I actually presented this scenario to a friend who's relative is U.S. Representative...the Representatives response was..."TREASON IS THE CORRECT CHARGE, He Has Frequently Entertained Lead Members of the Muslim Brotherhood At The White House.
    Constituting "COMFORT"..,Now We Have $ 145 million dollars in "AID"
    To A "SWORN ENEMY"of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA...ARTICLE 111,Of OUR CONSTITUTION!, Declares The ACT of "Giving "AID and COMFORT" To An Enemy of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA IS To Be An act of "TREASON"! "

    I was suspect, and still am that...

    1. We have witnessed the Obama administration stopping a coup attempt before it can come to fruition...

    ...or...

    2. We are witnessing a coup attempt BY the Obama Administration by eliminating key military officials.
  • phil white NoBama Man 2012/11/16 14:11:10
    phil white
    +2
    There was a coup plot involving the twice medal of honor recipient Gen. Smendly Butler against the previous leftist regime of Franklin "Court Packing" Roosevelt. So it's not totally unprecidented in U.S. history.
  • Chi~Cat phil white 2012/11/16 08:44:12
    Chi~Cat
    +3
    works.
  • hippie.chic (>‿◠)✌ 2012/11/15 23:48:27
    hippie.chic (>‿◠)✌
    +7
    I don't understand it.

    Watergate - Nixon resigns - no one died
    Benghazi - Obama voted in for 2nd term - 4 Americans DEAD [even after several attacks on their compound]

    lybia
  • AL hippie.... 2012/11/16 09:40:54 (edited)
    AL
    +3
    Don't worry son, I the great Obee will always have your backs! Oh I'm sorry that was my knife instead! Oh well whats another one or two more dead Americans anyway?
  • AL hippie.... 2012/11/16 09:42:10
    AL
    +3
    Seems they still let useful idiots vote in this Country
  • Red Branch 2012/11/15 23:26:51
    Red Branch
    +7
    Correct, I hadn't thought about this, but then, that is why I am not an insider.
  • Dale 2012/11/15 23:24:20
    Dale
    +9
    So many questions, so many with the lack of moral courage to answer them.
  • Boilermaker 2012/11/15 23:12:40 (edited)
    Boilermaker
    +10
    I just saw a few soundbites from the proceedings today and find it sickening that the Dem's seem to have received their walking papers and approved narrative.

    For them, it's not about the complete and utter failure to protect American lives, or the buffoonery in trying to cover it up by repeatedly lying to the public.

    It has already become a dog & pony show with their disgust for hurting Susan Rice's widdle feewings and somehow comparing the attacks to 9/11/2001 or anything else that takes focus off WHY they are there.
  • LadyBGood Boilerm... 2012/11/15 23:21:32
    LadyBGood
    +9
    Like President IT...she appears to be thin skinned. But he was protecting her with his thug talk....

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama told Republican senators on Wednesday that if they had a problem with the handling of the Benghazi attack in Libya, to "go after me" rather than pick on his ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice.

    Obama's comments, in a combative tone, came after two senior Republican senators said they would block any attempts by the president to put Rice into a Cabinet position that would require Senate confirmation
  • Boilerm... LadyBGood 2012/11/15 23:31:38
    Boilermaker
    +8
    Yup,... and a copy of his rant was sent out with light-speed quickness to every Liberal talking head and festering boil in Congress to carry the message.
  • Charles E LadyBGood 2012/11/15 23:41:48
    Charles E
    +4
    All talk. No performance.
    If anyone actually does go after Barack the race card will come out faster than the speed of light.
  • RTHTGakaRoland 2012/11/15 23:11:15
  • Boilerm... RTHTGak... 2012/11/15 23:14:54
  • Charles E RTHTGak... 2012/11/15 23:39:35
    Charles E
    +8
    Obama loves Obama. Everyone else is on their own.
  • cinbadl 2012/11/15 23:03:44

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