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Was this "white only" sign a violation of civil rights?

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COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — A Cincinnati
landlord who claimed a black girl's hair products clouded an apartment
complex's swimming pool discriminated against the child by posting a
poolside "White Only" sign, an Ohio civil rights panel said Thursday in
upholding a previous finding.

The Ohio Civil Rights Commission voted 4-0 against reconsidering its finding from last fall. There was no discussion.

The group found on Sept. 29 that Jamie Hein,
who is white, violated the Ohio Civil Rights Act by posting the sign at
a pool at the duplex where the teenage girl was visiting her parents.

The
parents filed a discrimination charge with the commission and moved out
of the duplex in the racially diverse city to "avoid subjecting their
family to further humiliating treatment," the commission said in a
release announcing its finding.

An
investigation revealed that Hein in May posted on the gated entrance to
the pool an iron sign that stated "Public Swimming Pool, White Only,"
the commission statement said.

Several
witnesses confirmed that the sign was posted, and the landlord
indicated that she posted it because the girl used chemicals in her hair
that would make the pool "cloudy," according to the commission.



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  • ally 2012/01/13 15:14:00
    Yes it was a violation
    ally
    +15
    The same way if it said "black" "brown" "Male" "female" "straight" "gay" only.

    If you're really upset about hairproducts, put up an outside shower, so that people could use this before entering the pool.

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  • Maria 2012/04/15 01:26:12
    Yes it was a violation
    Maria
    +1
    common sense nowadays yes..back then no..surprise that old sign still living ...how did they get this old sign? that doesn't make any sense.. anyway understand how Owner feels had to pay cleaning pool wonder how much it cost? to get it cleaning?
    here's information: refer to these as life cycle costs. A swimming pool, like most things, will not last forever. If you maintain your pool, keep the water chemistry balanced and do some routine preventative upkeep, however, your swimming pool will provide years of trouble-free fun, enjoyment and great memories.

    OK, so what does it cost to maintain a pool? First, understand that nearly every pool is different. Some pools are tunable. By that I mean it can be adjusted to find that pool's sweet spot -- that perfect combination of good flow, little restriction, quiet pump performance and low energy consumption. If the builder built it without the necessary adjustment capabilities, you have fewer choices.

    * Energy usage with a standard 1-1/2 or 2 HP motor can be as much as $60-$80 or more per month. Many older pool pumps are oversized for the pool and draw a lot of energy. This is prevalent in old pools where the pumps were replaced with the mentality that bigger must be better. Not true in this case.

    * Chemical usage could be ...

    common sense nowadays yes..back then no..surprise that old sign still living ...how did they get this old sign? that doesn't make any sense.. anyway understand how Owner feels had to pay cleaning pool wonder how much it cost? to get it cleaning?
    here's information: refer to these as life cycle costs. A swimming pool, like most things, will not last forever. If you maintain your pool, keep the water chemistry balanced and do some routine preventative upkeep, however, your swimming pool will provide years of trouble-free fun, enjoyment and great memories.

    OK, so what does it cost to maintain a pool? First, understand that nearly every pool is different. Some pools are tunable. By that I mean it can be adjusted to find that pool's sweet spot -- that perfect combination of good flow, little restriction, quiet pump performance and low energy consumption. If the builder built it without the necessary adjustment capabilities, you have fewer choices.

    * Energy usage with a standard 1-1/2 or 2 HP motor can be as much as $60-$80 or more per month. Many older pool pumps are oversized for the pool and draw a lot of energy. This is prevalent in old pools where the pumps were replaced with the mentality that bigger must be better. Not true in this case.

    * Chemical usage could be as little as $20-$30 dollars per month to well over $50.

    * Let's address water usage. The average pool is 12,000 gallons. Every pool in the desert without a pool cover has an evaporation rate of 5' per year. For most play pools that is the entire volume of water lost. Out of the 300,000 or so pools currently constructed, it has estimated that nearly 20% of them may be leaking, so that is 60,000 pools. If you have a filter that requires back washing you are sending thousands of gallons of water down the proverbial (and literal) drain. If every pool had a cartridge style filter, we could save 1.5 billion gallons of water alone in Arizona. That is 4,603 acre-feet of valuable water. Your water bill will depend, therefore, on how efficiently you use water in your pool, coupled with the water rates charged in your community.
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  • Aader Maria 2012/04/15 03:24:59
    Aader
    +1
    No offense but boring.
  • Maria Aader 2012/04/15 15:02:33
    Maria
    No problem at all....
  • Aader Maria 2012/04/15 15:19:07
    Aader
    +1
    I mean can you summarize it.
  • Bibliophilic 2012/04/15 00:51:12
    Yes it was a violation
    Bibliophilic
    +2
    How sad. He was probably making an excuse to cover up his racism, but it didn't work.
  • shultzhound 2012/04/15 00:51:00
    Yes it was a violation
    shultzhound
    +1
    Simple solution: outside shower with a sign that reads"must wash hair before entering pool" simple solution, but only a real racist would post such a sign because they figured that only "blacks" have use hair products that mess up the pool.
  • Erok 2012/04/15 00:40:13
    Yes it was a violation
    Erok
    +1
    It should have said no jerry curl or sheen products in pool without head gear :)
  • POWERSHAKER 2012/04/15 00:27:07
    Yes it was a violation
    POWERSHAKER
    +2
    Man, he handled that the wrong way. That's for sure. That's no the way to go about things at all. Also, it's very much a racist sign and violates her civil rights.
  • psiEnergos 2012/04/14 23:34:06
    Yes it was a violation
    psiEnergos
    +2
    Their complaint about crap in the water may have been legitimate, however targeting any group as a result when its a public facility makes it a civil rights violation. If they simply enforced the shower before swimming rules for swimming (no one ever seems to anymore) the problem would be reduced or eliminated. Very dumb thing to do.
  • raine psiEnergos 2012/04/15 01:58:04
    raine
    +1
    right it is pretty gross to think all the dirt and germs people bring into a public pool.
  • Mikel_mad2002 2012/04/14 23:29:43
    Yes it was a violation
    Mikel_mad2002
    Just using the hair issue as an excuse
  • ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠ 2012/04/14 23:27:00
    Yes it was a violation
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    +5
    Either way, it doesn't make any sense. Pools are filthy anyway.
    Pool Graph
  • Leah ☠ Live ... 2012/04/15 07:27:23
    Leah
    +2
    You forgot the giant dead bugs that float in the pool >_<
  • ☠ Live ... Leah 2012/04/15 12:46:30
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    +1
    Eww, I hate those! >_< There's a pool at the camping grounds in my city, and sometimes there are snakes and lizards in the pool. .-.
  • Racefish ☠ Live ... 2012/04/15 14:05:49
    Racefish
    +1
    And sometimes real animals.
  • ☠ Live ... Racefish 2012/04/15 14:07:46
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    +1
    Bear in a pool
    I love the look on that bear's face. He's like "GTFO of my pool!"
  • Leah ☠ Live ... 2012/04/15 18:25:47
    Leah
    That is really disgusting. If I found snakes and lizards in a pool, I would leave.
  • ☠ Live ... Leah 2012/04/15 19:47:03
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    +1
    Well, the pool is surrounded by dense forest, and the whole pool area is surrounded only by a chainlink fence. It's REALLY easy for forest critters to get into the pool. There was once a live raccoon in the pool, and it was shut down for about 10 days. The pool NEEDS to be in a BUILDING.
  • disclaimer 2012/04/14 23:22:53
    Yes it was a violation
    disclaimer
  • beach bum 2012/04/14 22:49:58
    Yes it was a violation
    beach bum
    +1
    and why is it still up?
  • MJ 2012/04/14 22:12:15
    Yes it was a violation
    MJ
    +1
    absolutely!
  • Pat 2012/04/14 21:49:43
    Yes it was a violation
    Pat
    +1
    If there was really a problem with something this girl was using, he should have addressed that as the issue NOT the color of the person. I find it hard to believe that anything one person would use on their head or body could cloud an entire pool. Don't they have filters and cleaning apparatus?
  • Little Angel 2012/04/14 21:26:51
    Yes it was a violation
    Little Angel
    +2
    "White Only" or "Black Only" --- it is the same both ways, a violation of Civil Rights!
  • ajracestables1 2012/04/14 20:56:41
    Yes it was a violation
    ajracestables1
    +2
    In today's day and age, it is defanately a violation of civil rights.
  • RogerCoppock 2012/04/14 20:49:55
    Yes it was a violation
    RogerCoppock
    +2
    Gezzz! I though America killed old Jim Crow in the 1960s.
  • Adam W 2012/04/14 20:29:53
    Yes it was a violation
    Adam W
    +3
    If the problem is hair dyes, then ban hair dyes. Banning an entire race is wrong. I can't be sure, but right now it looks like she was only using the dye as an excuse for her racism. Either that or she's just REALLY stupid and didn't see anything wrong with it. Either way, she's a horrible person.
  • Seonag 2012/04/14 20:24:18
    Yes it was a violation
    Seonag
    +1
    Would have been better to require ALL bathers to wear a bathing cap (sorry guys --- can't discriminate). That would have solved the hair product issue.
  • templer003 2012/04/14 20:19:19
    Yes it was a violation
    templer003
    +2
    I guess you just can not fix stupid...
    If the landlord was all that concerned then the correct thing to have done would to have put up a sign stating that everyone must have removed all and any kind of hair treatment from their hair before entering....
  • Reggie☮ 2012/04/14 20:07:02
    Yes it was a violation
    Reggie☮
    +4
    But is it not a violation of civil rights to have the Miss Black America Pageant, African American Literary Arts Awards, BET Awards, Ebony Annual Achievement Awards and many others? Just asking
  • raine Reggie☮ 2012/04/15 02:00:30
    raine
    +1
    eewww I wouldn't like to see any of that
  • Reggie☮ raine 2012/04/15 04:46:16
    Reggie☮
    +1
    I think the sign was totally out of line. But I would like to know what makes it okay to have specific awards etc. for blacks. If we had the Miss White America Pageant all hell would break loose. I don't think it's right. :)
  • Tennessee3501 2012/04/14 20:06:01 (edited)
    Yes it was a violation
    Tennessee3501
    +3
    Are you kidding me? There is no greater violation of civil rights than preventing the use of a pool on the basis of race, creed, religion, national origin or sex. A Hollywood producer once invited Groucho Marx and his family to his private country club. One of the directors of the club knew that Groucho was Jewish and privately advised him and his host that Jews were not allowed in the pool. Groucho responded: "Well since my daughter is only half Jewish, can she at least go into the water up to her knees!"
  • Chieki 2012/04/14 20:03:26
    Yes it was a violation
    Chieki
    +6
    I have to censor myself...

    This is...



    crazy
  • ETpro 2012/04/14 20:00:04
    Yes it was a violation
    ETpro
    +4
    It's a definite violation of the Civil Rights Act.
  • Dagon 2012/04/14 19:56:54
  • wolfshadow 2012/04/14 19:43:10 (edited)
    No it was not.
    wolfshadow
    Lets ask the people who produce Jet magazine, or the people that sponsor the Ms. Black America pageant... or the black panthers.... or the united negro college fund....

    He's an idiot though... all he had to do was ask her to wash her hair before getting in the pool.... It's not like she's not going to wash it afterwards anyway.... c'mon... little common sense here.
  • Bibliop... wolfshadow 2012/04/15 00:50:06 (edited)
    Bibliophilic
    +1
    face palm

    You're comparing magazines that cater to a black audience to a case of racial discrimination?
  • wolfshadow Bibliop... 2012/04/15 23:07:32
    wolfshadow
    I'm comparing all forms of racism. Slap yourself with that face palm fool.
  • twocrows wolfshadow 2012/04/16 00:12:47
    twocrows
    +1
    you're also saying that this person, of whom the ONLY THING you know is her race, is not clean: "It's not like she's not going to wash it afterwards anyway"

    you say you're not a bigot? if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck . . . .
  • wolfshadow twocrows 2012/04/16 10:33:31
    wolfshadow
    Go away duck.

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