Was the Supreme Court's Decision on Arizona's Immigration Law Appropriate or Unjust?
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2012/06/25 20:00:00
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The Supreme Court has finally come to a decision concerning Arizona's controversial immigration laws, put into effect in 2010. They struck down most aspects of the law, chiefly those dealing with how illegal immigrants are punished. However, the Court upheld the most controversial part of law -- the part that requires officers to check immigration status at lawful stops under reasonable suspicion.
Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote, "The national government has significant power to regulate immigration. Arizona may have understandable frustrations with the problems caused by illegal immigration while that process continues, but the state may not pursue policies that undermined federal law." Do you think the Supreme Court handled the case appropriately? Or did it use its power unfairly?
Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote, "The national government has significant power to regulate immigration. Arizona may have understandable frustrations with the problems caused by illegal immigration while that process continues, but the state may not pursue policies that undermined federal law." Do you think the Supreme Court handled the case appropriately? Or did it use its power unfairly?
Top Opinion
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Lord Emperor of Dune 2012/06/25 21:12:01Appropriate
+21It's appropriate that they check, but unjust that they aren't just dumped back out into the desert. Every dollar we spend mollycoddling illegals is a dollar that could be spent on an American in need. Why don't we treat illegals like they are illegal?
I don't like that local/district/state police can't aide in the fight to keep illegals out. I guess we will have to increase and support the Minutemen more fully.
As far as cops seeking citizenship. I guarantee you, if I get pulled over, they are going to make darn sure I (a US taxpaying citizen) am who I say and that I have all my legal paperwork on hand.
They aren't even supposed to be able to get our social benefits in the first place. PERIOD.
Furthermore, Article 4 Section 4:
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, AND SHALL PROTECT EACH OF THEM AGAINST INVASION; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
There should not even be a need of legislation from the States concerning Foreign National Aliens (Invaders by all definition) and how to deal with them, to get them OUT of the States in the first place and THAT IS THE PROBLEM HERE. The Federal Government is supposed to station our military at our own borders and DEFEND IT from all invasion (notice there is NO clause for exception of "unless not armed" - it does not matter, they are still an INVASION force).
However, that is why we have Amendment 10:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively...
Furthermore, Article 4 Section 4:
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, AND SHALL PROTECT EACH OF THEM AGAINST INVASION; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
There should not even be a need of legislation from the States concerning Foreign National Aliens (Invaders by all definition) and how to deal with them, to get them OUT of the States in the first place and THAT IS THE PROBLEM HERE. The Federal Government is supposed to station our military at our own borders and DEFEND IT from all invasion (notice there is NO clause for exception of "unless not armed" - it does not matter, they are still an INVASION force).
However, that is why we have Amendment 10:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
NONE of SB 1070 is in violation of the Constitution, nor Federal Law. NONE of it.
Further, We The People of the United States of AMERICA means exactly that - AMERICAN CITIZENS. Not Foreign National Aliens who have INVADED this Nation. They do not have any protections or Rights under our Constitution in the first place. And I honestly do not believe ANY American Citizen would take issue with furnishing their birth certificate on request of Citizenship proof when asked, at all - I sure as hell would not if it means cracking down big time on these INVADERS and getting this Nation back from the brink of ruin.
I have always been of the opinion that the Supreme court justices should never have been given lifetime appointments. The reason being it makes them too secure in their positions without some kind of checks and balances. They can make decisions that do not reflect what the people want.
Part of American history is majority rules, the majority rules in both houses of the Congress, and it also rules in the Supreme court. Sometimes the majority rule goes against the will of the people, that's why the Justices should have to be subject to term limits, term limits should also be put on the members of Congress, that would be the remedy for justices that legislate from the bench and elections can weed out the abusers of their positions.
The biggest problem with the modern day court is their political affiliations, the supreme court should in no way be apolitical, this latest decision on immigration validates that point. This decision was a cowardly one because I fear the judges didn't want to offend illegals, but by doing so they offended the American people.
"No state shall, without the consent of congress.......engage in war, unless actually invaded or in such imminent danger as will not admit of delay."
Re: Please name one area in our country that is off-limits to Americans because of drug cartels: "About 3,500 acres of southern Arizona along the Mexican border is closed to U.S. citizens due to increased violence in the region." - http://www.liveleak.com/view?... Certainly you've seen pictures of the signs posted on American soil warning people to stay away? I can't get it to show in this comment for some reason, so I posted it in a reply below.
Re: when did the federal government announce it won't do anything about illegal immigrants: "The Obama administration said Monday it is suspending existing agreements with Arizona police over enforcement of federal immigration laws, and said it has issued a directive telling federal authorities to decline many of the calls reporting illegal immigrants that the Homeland Security Department may get from Arizona police." - http://www.washingtontimes.co...
"And this notion that States can't do anything is crap, they can do what they always have done. Turn over anyone they pick up that is undocumented to I.C.E. and let them take it from there. Which is what our Constitution allows them to do. Nothing more and nothing less. " Right, but when th...
Re: Please name one area in our country that is off-limits to Americans because of drug cartels: "About 3,500 acres of southern Arizona along the Mexican border is closed to U.S. citizens due to increased violence in the region." - http://www.liveleak.com/view?... Certainly you've seen pictures of the signs posted on American soil warning people to stay away? I can't get it to show in this comment for some reason, so I posted it in a reply below.
Re: when did the federal government announce it won't do anything about illegal immigrants: "The Obama administration said Monday it is suspending existing agreements with Arizona police over enforcement of federal immigration laws, and said it has issued a directive telling federal authorities to decline many of the calls reporting illegal immigrants that the Homeland Security Department may get from Arizona police." - http://www.washingtontimes.co...
"And this notion that States can't do anything is crap, they can do what they always have done. Turn over anyone they pick up that is undocumented to I.C.E. and let them take it from there. Which is what our Constitution allows them to do. Nothing more and nothing less. " Right, but when the government doesn't do its job and help them deport the illegals? What then?
If you cross the North Korean border illegally, you get twelve years hard labour.
If you cross the Iranian border illegally, you are detained indefinitely. Crossing the Afgan border illegally, you get shot and buried.
Saudi Arabia yes, is a rich country to do business but if you cross the border illegally you will be jailed. If you cross the Chinese border illegally, you may never be heard from again.
Go through the normal procedure to get visa to travel to Venezuela and you will walk chest out but if you cross the border illegally you will be branded a spy and your fate will be sealed. But if you cross the Cuban border illegally, you will be thrown into political prison to rot whiles if you cross the British border illegally, you will always be asked to identify yourself where if you do not have authorization will be deported.
If you cross the United States of America border illegally, then you are lucky, you could pursue your education and do whatever business you want and for more than 15 years could not obtain your green paper to authorize your stay in the country which means you could be deported anytime when caught.
But whe...
If you cross the North Korean border illegally, you get twelve years hard labour.
If you cross the Iranian border illegally, you are detained indefinitely. Crossing the Afgan border illegally, you get shot and buried.
Saudi Arabia yes, is a rich country to do business but if you cross the border illegally you will be jailed. If you cross the Chinese border illegally, you may never be heard from again.
Go through the normal procedure to get visa to travel to Venezuela and you will walk chest out but if you cross the border illegally you will be branded a spy and your fate will be sealed. But if you cross the Cuban border illegally, you will be thrown into political prison to rot whiles if you cross the British border illegally, you will always be asked to identify yourself where if you do not have authorization will be deported.
If you cross the United States of America border illegally, then you are lucky, you could pursue your education and do whatever business you want and for more than 15 years could not obtain your green paper to authorize your stay in the country which means you could be deported anytime when caught.
But when you enter Canada border illegally, expect the Canada Border Services Agency as well as the Immigration and Citizenship Canada, to serve you with a removal letter followed by an arrest if you do not leave the country peaceful where they will throw you out quietly.
Here in the United States the political establishment allows illegals to get their votes in complete disregard for our laws. Immigration is fine if it's done legally, but not at the whim of some politician to be re-elected.
Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years' imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years' imprisonment.