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Was the Supreme Court's Decision on Arizona's Immigration Law Appropriate or Unjust?

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The Supreme Court has finally come to a decision concerning Arizona's controversial immigration laws, put into effect in 2010. They struck down most aspects of the law, chiefly those dealing with how illegal immigrants are punished. However, the Court upheld the most controversial part of law -- the part that requires officers to check immigration status at lawful stops under reasonable suspicion.

Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote, "The national government has significant power to regulate immigration. Arizona may have understandable frustrations with the problems caused by illegal immigration while that process continues, but the state may not pursue policies that undermined federal law." Do you think the Supreme Court handled the case appropriately? Or did it use its power unfairly?

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  • Lord Emperor of Dune 2012/06/25 21:12:01
    Appropriate
    Lord Emperor of Dune
    +21
    It's appropriate that they check, but unjust that they aren't just dumped back out into the desert. Every dollar we spend mollycoddling illegals is a dollar that could be spent on an American in need. Why don't we treat illegals like they are illegal?

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  • Charles R. Anderson 2012/06/27 03:30:48
    Unjust
    Charles R. Anderson
    +1
    At the least 3 of the provisions should have been ruled constitutional as Justice Alito says. The requirement to carry legal immigration papers at all times might be challenged, but even that is probably justified, which is Justice Thomas's stance.
  • Kent Jefferson 2012/06/27 03:16:07
    Unjust
    Kent Jefferson
    +3
    The real issue here is the genocide of my people, White people. No one is flooding Africa with millions of non-Africans and calling for a blended humanity. No one is flooding Asia with millions of non-Asians and saying we all bleed red. It is ONLY White children's countries being subjected to this, and according to international law, it is genocide.

    These people who claim to be anti-racist are really just anti-White.

    Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.
  • wilsonmja Kent Je... 2012/06/27 05:56:07
    wilsonmja
    Troll alert
  • Magnus ... Kent Je... 2012/06/27 23:03:37
  • American Kent Je... 2012/06/28 15:34:14
    American
    Actually the Indians were here first, so technically speaking, America is the Indians country. The White people have already flooded Africa with non-Africans and looted the continent. What some White people want is world domination. Get use to the fact that will never happen again our reign is over. Anti racist are not anti White, we are just anti-White supremacy. There lies the difference.
  • DizziNY 2012/06/27 03:06:54
    Appropriate
    DizziNY
    There are laws.
  • strawberry 2012/06/27 02:54:09
    Unjust
    strawberry
    +1
    The Supreme Court should be abolished. Why should a few justices with their own prejudice opinions vote for what majority of legal American Citizens want. The U.S. Supreme Court borders on dictatorship.
  • Joel B... strawberry 2012/06/27 03:58:54
    Joel	 Buccellato
    +1
    Do you wish your statement to hold for all of the Supreme Court decisions?
  • American Joel B... 2012/06/28 15:37:01
    American
    +1
    I am sure her statement is meant to hold only for the ones they lose or she doesn't agree with.
  • Joel B... American 2012/06/29 03:51:11
    Joel	 Buccellato
    Well I can't blame one for feeling that way, but for how many rulings with which I disagree, I am grateful that there are people who can determine constitutionality.
  • Sweetness strawberry 2012/06/28 03:01:17
    Sweetness
    +1
    There has to be someone who interprets what the law says.. Don't our Presidents, mayors, governors all have their own beliefs and opinions that they use whenever in office.. I'm curious to know what your answer is in response to what Joel said..
  • Handel9652 2012/06/27 02:52:07
    Appropriate
    Handel9652
    +1
    I'm still a bit disturbed by the fact that officers can check immigration status at lawful stops under reasonable reasonable suspicion... How do you reasonably suspect someone is illegal without profiling them...?
  • DizziNY Handel9652 2012/06/27 03:11:39 (edited)
    DizziNY
    +1
    Um, people "profile" everyday, but most people are not honest enough to admit it.
  • Handel9652 DizziNY 2012/06/27 03:17:29
    Handel9652
    Aside from whatever soapbox you're on, I'm talking about law. That is, there is no law against being a minority, and there's no law against speaking a language other than English, and "I just got a feeling he was an illegal" isn't going to fly, so how might an LEO might claim reasonable suspicion in a court of law?
  • American Handel9652 2012/06/28 15:44:45
    American
    In my opinion, reasonable suspicion is that a person is a legal immigrant in a country whose language they cannot even speak. There is no law against speaking a language other then English. In fact speaking another language is highly recommended and encourged by most.
  • Manwë Handel9652 2012/06/27 04:04:55
    Manwë
    +1
    That part may be out also. They can only arrest for illegal activities they currently arrest people for and the check cannot increase the time the person is in custody.
  • ~HopelessRomanticM17~ 2012/06/27 02:33:58
    Unjust
    ~HopelessRomanticM17~
    +1
    I just don't think it's as big of a deal as they make it out to be.
  • gil vazquez 2012/06/27 02:29:33
    Unjust
    gil vazquez
    That's nice.. you have two choices but you are automatically added to the unjust vote.
    For the record I think it was appropriate.This must be a republican website! hah
    One part of the bill survived.but three were struck down. Of the three struck down the centerpiece of the bill that if you looked Hispanic they could ask for your papers was tossed. What was passed was that if you were caught in some illegal activity or suspicion of doing wrong that you could be asked for your papers, which leaves law enforcement in a precarious situation. The first case they make a mistake, there are a gang of lawyers waiting to challenge the rule which the Supreme court has said it would revisit if there was a violation of the judgement. So what you have is an idiot Arpaio who says he will still arrest these people and will create the first case which will ultimately bring down the law.
  • BoomLover gil vaz... 2012/06/27 03:20:20
    BoomLover
    +2
    What is the matter with you? If you are caught in ANY Illegal activity, the Police have the right, and in fact they would be derelict in their duty if they didn't, ask you for "your papers" (That would be a VALID LEGAL ID). Admit it, Mr. Vazquez, you just might have a little bit of bias in this matter? Personally, I hope Jan Brewer puts it up to a vote and the whole state goes as a Soverign Nation, and they creat their own "Border Patrol", and chase the Illegal Aliens back where they came from, at the point of a gun, if necessary!
  • gil vaz... BoomLover 2012/06/28 07:25:28
    gil vazquez
    Actually I want them to arrest someone. The Supreme court will then have the case to throw the whole thing out. You must be so frustrated. So you want Arizona to secede??? Hahahahah. What an idiot. You really think that Arizona can be a sovereign state? Take that gun that you love so much and shoot yourself. Best investment the NRA has for your state.
  • BoomLover gil vaz... 2012/07/01 17:01:26
    BoomLover
    So, gil, ever check to see how many states have retained the right to Sovereignty? And shame on you for wishing harm to another fellow human being, you must be a flaming liberal to seriously want that! How about half? Yep 25 States. (And several more are thinking seriously about it!) That's half this broken Nation that want just the opposite of what you want, gil. What is your agenda, gil? You want all the "free" stuff you can get out of your taxpayers there? You kinda a bit "Illegal" there yourself, gil? Notice your living in the state that has the biggest debt in the Nation now, gil, 16 Billion in the red. What are you doing to help that problem to be solved, gil? Standing around with one finger up your butt and the other hand out for some more of that "Free Government Money", right, gil? Come on back, gil, and we can dance some more, your pathetic, gil!
  • gil vaz... BoomLover 2012/07/01 17:34:04
    gil vazquez
    Right.. Secession is your answer. Won't happen and it is just a fantasy you have. You really think that Arizona would go to war with the federal government? That just makes you a loony tune, and for your info as a Bonafide red blooded American who served his country, and loves it , I would take up arms against you and your kind. I don't have a problem with gun ownership. As to California it is a great state that will survive regardless of it's problems. Admit it you are losing the fight and are just a little frustrated about it all. And where do you get that free money stuff? I thought this was about a supreme court decision to ID illegals. You want to dance? First you need to be able to hear the music.
  • davidgoessplat 2012/06/27 02:15:08
    Unjust
    davidgoessplat
    +4
    All Arizona did was pass the same law that was on the books federally so the state could enforce immigration because the federal government refused. Its outraging how the Obama administration picks and chooses which laws it thinks it should enforce.
  • Herb 2012/06/27 02:06:53
    Appropriate
    Herb
    they have the right to ask someone if he speaks spanish for his papers.
  • l Herb 2012/06/27 17:29:21
    l
    Only if there is a suspicion that he/she has broken the law,I think!?
  • Magnus ... l 2012/06/27 22:59:45
    Magnus ☮ RP ☮ 2012 ☮
    Improper Entry by Alien - FELONY. I'd say that qualifies in and of itself. For those who are in fact LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, not Foreign National Alien FELONS, those need not fear anything. I would not mind at all furnishing my documentation of American Citizenship (Natural-Born) if it meant FINALLY having proactive measures to oust all Illegals and send them packing back home, saving this Nation from the brink of fiscal destruction.
  • Herb l 2012/06/28 04:12:47
    Herb
    +1
    can be a routine traffic stop yes
  • gil vaz... Herb 2012/06/28 07:29:05
    gil vazquez
    +1
    That's not true, they have the right to ask for papers if they are suspected of a crime.
  • Herb gil vaz... 2012/06/28 11:55:46 (edited)
    Herb
    if they get caught of a crime cant be racial profiling. if their here illegally isn't that a crime.
  • teigan 2012/06/27 01:42:23
    Appropriate
    teigan
    +8
    Now what Arizona needs to do is file a lawsuit against Obama for refusing to uphold and enforce the laws of this country. He has broken his oath of office, he also needs to be impeached. If I lived in Arizona I would refuse to pay Federal Taxes until they started upholding the laws.
  • BoomLover teigan 2012/06/27 03:21:31
    BoomLover
    +3
    Great response!
  • teigan BoomLover 2012/06/27 03:32:45
    teigan
    +1
    Thank you!
  • wysiwis teigan 2012/06/27 03:27:52
    wysiwis
    +2
    "refuse to pay Federal Taxes until they started upholding the laws." GREAT idea!
  • Magnus ... teigan 2012/06/27 22:57:39
    Magnus ☮ RP ☮ 2012 ☮
    +1
    Yup, starve the rats out! They cannot arrest 300+ Millions of us!
  • LiberalCowards 2012/06/27 01:16:39
    Appropriate
    LiberalCowards
    +2


    Unfortunately, the Supreme Court probably did the right thing and I applaud them for not letting politics drive their decision (I'm not talking about the briefs they wrote, but the actually outcome).

    If we put politics and emotions aside, we really don't want states to be able to legislate around the Federal Government and we don't want 50 different laws for immigration. In that regard, they did the right thing.

    The problem at Arizona tried to address is still a problem, however. The Federal Government is not enforcing it's own laws and states can't seem to do anything about it.

    I'd do two things if I were the citizens and local government of Arizona:

    1) The citizen should start a process of recalling their Senators and Representatives that AREN'T spending every waking moment getting congress to act on this. Congress holds the keys to Immigration and Congress can defund ICE and the Dept of Homeland Security until they "get back to work". Why are we funding/paying for people who's job it is to protect the border if they are not. Fire them. Also, hold congress (yes, John McCain) to the fire. He could be doing more than whining on Fox News.

    2) If the Federal Government and ICE are looking the other way at illegal immigrants in Arizona, then the local government can ...


    Unfortunately, the Supreme Court probably did the right thing and I applaud them for not letting politics drive their decision (I'm not talking about the briefs they wrote, but the actually outcome).

    If we put politics and emotions aside, we really don't want states to be able to legislate around the Federal Government and we don't want 50 different laws for immigration. In that regard, they did the right thing.

    The problem at Arizona tried to address is still a problem, however. The Federal Government is not enforcing it's own laws and states can't seem to do anything about it.

    I'd do two things if I were the citizens and local government of Arizona:

    1) The citizen should start a process of recalling their Senators and Representatives that AREN'T spending every waking moment getting congress to act on this. Congress holds the keys to Immigration and Congress can defund ICE and the Dept of Homeland Security until they "get back to work". Why are we funding/paying for people who's job it is to protect the border if they are not. Fire them. Also, hold congress (yes, John McCain) to the fire. He could be doing more than whining on Fox News.

    2) If the Federal Government and ICE are looking the other way at illegal immigrants in Arizona, then the local government can look the other way when citizens start shooting them as they cross the border. Problem solved. I'd force Obama to send people to the border to DEFEND the Illegals.
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  • BoomLover Liberal... 2012/06/27 03:23:37
    BoomLover
    +1
    Your half right...I wouldn't spend a dime to defend Illegal Aliens...just pack them up and send them back where they came from....
  • DISCO 2012/06/27 00:22:51
    Unjust
    DISCO
    +3
    But I am not suprised look who selected the Supreme Court. Our Supreme Leader Obama the Dictator who does not believe in the constitution.
  • Super_Doodles 2012/06/27 00:10:36
    Appropriate
    Super_Doodles
    +4
    Hmmm....I have to show my ID anytime I am suspected of wrong-doing.
    We have limits on green cards for a reason, and not having enough is no reason to allow aliens to reside in the country. We have laws, and we have laws for a reason. They don't just apply to Hispanic illegal immigrants, they apply to all illegal immigrants. It just so happens that along the border, it is primarily Hispanic, so get off it, let us do what we need to in order to solve an issue that the government has failed to handle for decades. Don't get all high and mighty and think you're doing something for approving of illegal immigration. That just shows your own disdain for the law and allowance of unequal measures.
    Fact is, illegal immigrants are a drain on the economy of this nation and are a threat to national security, whether you like it or not. We have to do something, but it's probably more along the lines of stopping the "Kill List", the intrusive TSA and an insane foreign policy that allows the president to offensive military measures without Congress approval.
  • EddyGee53 2012/06/27 00:08:44
    Unjust
    EddyGee53
    +2
    The Supreme Court has once again made itself the definition of the term TRAITOR!
    Our highest court has in its arrogance overridden not only the state of Arizona but the will of the people they SWORE to uphold. It does not take a seer to recognize the collapse of our nation is rapidly approaching when its government is no longer Representative of its citizens, I wonder if this is how NERO felt as he began the last song on his fiddle.
  • gil vaz... EddyGee53 2012/06/28 07:36:32
    gil vazquez
    But it was 5 conservatives and 3 liberals who made the decision. It was your guys in your court???? duhhh?

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