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Was Obama's Support for Same-Sex Marriage a Political Move or an Honest Opinion?

The Catalyst 2012/05/21 19:03:57
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  • Asa 2012/06/15 02:54:51
    It was an Honest Opinion
    Asa
    I believe he was being honest about it, and did in fact have an evolution towards being for marriage equality. After all, he did repeal DADT, so why wouldn't his stated opinion on same-sex marriage be honest?
  • Miss Mayhem ✗✗✗ 2012/05/26 23:45:51
    It was an Honest Opinion
    Miss Mayhem ✗✗✗
    He starts off saying, "for me personally," obviously it was an honest opinion, but it was probably also a political move. There's much controversy over the issue and it could of ended up like many other problems; violence and angry rallies. Now the church just has to worry about this because same-sex marriage isn't allowed in at least Christian churches. They'll let you get married, but not in **their church and if you do, you're apparently going to hell. They believe that marriage should only be held between a man and a woman. It's baloney! I don't care if it is my religion, I love it dearly, but this is our one flaw.
  • Joe61 2012/05/21 20:12:37
    It was a Political Move
    Joe61
    Purely Political without a doubt...The sheer timing of it and thefact that it was complete reversal of his previous announcements on this and of course changing his position with only six months to go before the election......He definately got caught ot proper.
  • Vision of Verve 2012/05/21 19:59:55
  • ConLibFraud 2012/05/21 19:33:41
    It was a Political Move
    ConLibFraud
    Just when I thought the trick questions couldn't get any lower, along comes this doozy!
  • MandaLynne 2012/05/21 19:21:03
    It was a Political Move
    MandaLynne
    +2
    Political - here is the proof - Obama himself saying "I don't think marriage is a civil right"

  • kobidob... MandaLynne 2012/05/27 06:09:22
    kobidobidog
    The questioner has the devil in him tying to trick Obama into saying something he does not want to say even as the religious humans tried to trick Jesus. I see an honest guileless Obama.
  • MandaLynne kobidob... 2012/05/29 13:09:22
    MandaLynne
    I think it more that the Devil has tricked you into thinking Obama is honest and guileless. The man unequivocally stated that he believes marriage is between a man and a woman.
  • kobidob... MandaLynne 2012/06/20 23:05:40 (edited)
    kobidobidog
    I saw that video. The human asking the questions sounded like a religious man tempting Jesus. Obama is trying to promote peace with the gay. Sounds like you are against it. Obama is balanced in his thinking. I am for Obama because of this.
  • MandaLynne kobidob... 2012/06/21 12:26:30
    MandaLynne
    I am not against gays. My cousin who is gay has been shunned by his parents and siblings. I have offered to let him live with me and help him - like a good Christian should. I have no plans to thump him with a Bible. I don't do that - my method of evangelicalism is to live by example.

    Comparing Obama to Christ is blasphemous in my opinion. The man is not balanced but being politically expedient. The man questioning Obama sounds like someone trying to get him to quit equivocating and give a straight answer, which he finally does by saying he believes marriage is between one man and one woman.

    Now that he is falling in the polls, he all of a sudden "evolves" to a new opinion. It is politically pandering at it's most disgusting.
  • kobidob... MandaLynne 2012/06/21 18:32:43 (edited)
    kobidobidog
    If humans were godly the question would not even be brought up. Do you see Jesus drilling a human with questions like that or do you see religions humans like the scribes, and Pharaess doing that? You don't know what is good in the KJV to tell anyone to lift anyone up. You conceal the loving truth because you don't know the loving truth. I find humans against the zoosexuals use that word disgusting a lot. Do you see Jesus using that word?
  • MandaLynne kobidob... 2012/06/21 18:47:27
    MandaLynne
    You know nothing about my faith and my devotion to Christ. I conceal nothing. I am strong and firm in my faith.

    I never claimed humans were Godly. I said Obama should not be likened to Christ. The person questioning Obama was not trying to trick him but get him to give an unequivocal answer.

    I would be more willing to believe Obama truly changed his mind if he had done it before an election year. He is the one who attended a church for over 20 years that preached hate but quit when he decided to run for President and his preacher was becoming detrimental to his campaign. He is known for changing his mind when it is politically expedient.
  • kobidob... MandaLynne 2012/06/21 23:25:12 (edited)
    kobidobidog
    Persecuted are godly. 2 Timothy 3 >>12Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. Didn't know that one, did ya.
    King James Version. Suuuuuure he was not trying to trick him.Suuuuure tell me another one. Had you know the character of Jesus the subject would have never come up. By saying what her said does not change his stance on allowing the gays to marry. Somehow you think it does. I see religious humans encompassing Obama like a bunch of hungry devils. That is what I see. You have complains with no good words at all. No good suggestions.
  • MandaLynne kobidob... 2012/06/22 12:08:21
    MandaLynne
    Sometimes the persecuted are guilty.

    Obviously you will continue to believe as you wish, as shall I.
  • kobidob... MandaLynne 2012/06/25 19:41:25 (edited)
    kobidobidog
    If Jesus persecuted I would say you are right, but he did not persecute anyone using man made laws. Jesus is also as an anti stone thrower. Deny that.
  • MandaLynne kobidob... 2012/06/26 12:17:28
    MandaLynne
    Tell that to the money changers in the Temple.

    John 2:13-15
    [13] And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem,
    [14] And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:
    [15] And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
  • kobidob... MandaLynne 2012/06/28 22:10:18 (edited)
    kobidobidog
    Jesus drove them out. Jesus gets a lot of slack for doing what he did. He did not strike a single human. When you drive sheep you do not strike them. What was Jesus to do let the thievery in his temple continue? Seems to me you are favoring the temple thieves, bad mouthing the one who cleansed the temple.
  • MandaLynne kobidob... 2012/06/29 12:16:17
    MandaLynne
    What conversation are you a part of? I never said Jesus struck them. All I said was Jesus did persecute them. Nor did I imply in any fashion that I favored the thieves in the temple. I am a devout follower of Christ.

    Either make arguments that make sense or stop interacting with me.
  • kobidob... MandaLynne 2012/07/06 16:27:31
    kobidobidog
    Jesus did not persecute anyone. That is an accusation. He was purifying his temple. Robbers, and thieves will not be in his kingdom. Those humans misrepresented him. I get humans accusing Christ of using that whip all the time. Accusers of Christ are not of Christ. How can they be? Claim to be a follower of Christ, and side with be accuser, and not be what you claim.
  • MandaLynne kobidob... 2012/07/09 13:09:09
    MandaLynne
    You are putting words in my "mouth" that I did not say and twisting what I did. I have accused Jesus of nothing.
  • kobidob... MandaLynne 2012/07/10 21:48:57
    kobidobidog
    If you believe Jesus did not strike whoever that is a good thing. Many talk of that incident thinking Jesus did.
  • Met 2012/05/21 19:18:32
    It was an Honest Opinion
    Met
    +2
    The political move was acting like it was something he struggled with. Fodder for the idiots.
  • Bulbasaurus Rex. 2012/05/21 19:16:48
    None of the above
    Bulbasaurus Rex.
    +1
    That's what I want to know..
    I seriously question it..
    Is he just looking for votes or does he really mean to do something?

    I think it's wonderful when anyone supports same-sex marriage..
    I just want to know what the catch is..
  • The Cat... Bulbasa... 2012/05/21 19:22:36
    The Catalyst
    +1
    If you ask me, I think he's doing it so he can get political dividends.
  • Bulbasa... The Cat... 2012/05/21 19:27:54
    Bulbasaurus Rex.
    +1
    I'd believe it..
    I honestly wish politics wasn't so damn corrupt... That it wasn't about the money but for the good of the people.
  • The Cat... Bulbasa... 2012/05/21 19:34:34
    The Catalyst
    +1
    I also wish it was that way, but unfortunately it is never about the people.
  • Bulbasa... The Cat... 2012/05/21 19:42:20
    Bulbasaurus Rex.
    +1
    Which is really sad...
    It shouldn't be that way..
    I hope for both of our countries, that corruption won't be a part of government someday..
  • The Cat... Bulbasa... 2012/05/21 20:00:32
    The Catalyst
    +1
    I fear all Governments have some level of corruption. Even when the Head of Government is honest, there is always a structure of corruption surrounding him. It is sad, but true.
  • kobidob... The Cat... 2012/06/20 23:10:50 (edited)
    kobidobidog
    I see honesty in his face. I don't see deception. I think he honestly wants to help humans that have not been helped before. I think the other sexualities should be allowed to relax too.
  • das 2012/05/21 19:16:26
    None of the above
    das
    +1
    Actually I would guess it was both. Why should he be against it?
  • The Cat... das 2012/05/21 19:21:55
    The Catalyst
    +2
    He used to be for Civil Unions, citing his Christian faith as a reason for that. The same reason he cited when it came time to say he was for Same-sex Marriage. The man used to attend Jeremiah Wright's Church for 25 years, and I don't think Jeremiah Wright likes the idea of Same-sex Marriage. He might have changed his opinion, but its unlikely.
  • das The Cat... 2012/05/21 19:30:36
    das
    +1
    If you see mariage entirely linked to church than it makes kind of sense not to have gay marriages, but that also means that marriages doesn't make sense if you aren't in a church.
  • The Cat... das 2012/05/21 19:36:23
    The Catalyst
    I don't know if that is what he thinks.
  • perks-a real PATRIOT 2012/05/21 19:05:30
    It was a Political Move
    perks-a real PATRIOT
    +1
    Does dumbo and the communist dems do anything that's not political??
  • Met perks-a... 2012/05/21 19:23:27
    Met
    +1
    please define communist. I think this is at least the 3rd time i've asked you for this simple task. I find it a bit weird you insist on using the term, despite obviously not being able to define it.
  • perks-a... Met 2012/05/21 19:53:23
    perks-a real PATRIOT
    +1
    The problem you have is you don't know what communism is, wake up, your messiah and his criminal minions are communists!!
  • Met perks-a... 2012/05/22 03:13:41
    Met
    If i don't know what it is, you should enlighten me... What is a communist exactly? definition please.
  • perks-a... Met 2012/05/22 03:36:36
    perks-a real PATRIOT
    Sorry, I don't allow people to bait me into situations where my explanation can be attacked. Look it up in the dictionary, didn't you go to school??
  • Met perks-a... 2012/05/22 03:48:32
    Met
    Yes, i'm just curious why you're scared to define a word you liberally use. Typically that means you don't understand your own words.

    bigger question.

    if you guys can change the definition of communist and socialist to fit the guy who's the biggest donation benefactor of wall street, why can't we change the definition of marriage to include gay people?

    Bazing.
  • perks-a... Met 2012/05/22 12:13:58
    perks-a real PATRIOT
    Sorry, I don't do research for lazy liberals anymore, do your homework, the truth about your messiah is all around you!!

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