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Was McDonald's Right to Ban Woman Over Her Research?

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Dr. Erin Carr-Jordan says all she was trying to do was inform the public that McDonald's indoor playgrounds are a little bit on the filthy side, but McDonald's isn't having it. After "months of open and honest dialogue" with Carr-Jordan, the restaurant has decided to ban her from eight of their locations in and around Phoenix, where she lives.

Carr-Jordan, a mother of four and professor at Arizona State University, runs a website called Kids Play Safe, where her proposed mission is to "raise awareness, conduct microbiological testing, and reach out to the media in hopes to influencing public policy and instituting change" regarding a lack of regulation at "indoor playlands" like those found at McDonald's.

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Based on her studies, conducted in eight different states but focused in Arizona, she determined playlands are packed with bacteria like Staphlococcus aureus, Acidominococcus, fungus, and mold which can result in skin infections, food poisoning, STDs -- or worse. According to Time, McDonald's was cooperative until recently.

A McDonald's spokesperson said, "It appears that recent actions by Dr. Carr-Jordan have become disruptive to the employees and customers within our franchisee's restaurants, which prompted the letter from his attorney." That letter informed her that she was no longer welcome to step foot in eight locations, but we have a feeling this won't end here.

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  • ehrhornp 2012/02/28 17:18:08
    No
    ehrhornp
    +1
    Sounds like a bad move similar to when they told that old woman who spilled hot coffee on herself to go to hell. I knew there was a reason not to go there.
  • Valerie Howeth 2011/12/06 00:15:30
    No
    Valerie Howeth
    Well,look into her studies but try to understand she's only trying to be a good Parent and Citizen.She found something out wanted to share it she cares,but MAcdonalds I guess you'd carry that right just as long or until she gets a lawyer or something in law to back her if she's really got a health issue.But you Mcdonalds are excersizing you rights right now!Happy eating.Is she banned from purchasing from there to?
  • Michaelene 2011/11/07 23:52:55
    Yes
    Michaelene
    They have a right to refuse service to anyone.
    Note to all the parents out there: Snot knows no bounds!
  • BenVolinskij 2011/11/04 11:13:32
    No
    BenVolinskij
    +2
    Surprised it wasn't over her pointing out what's in the food.
  • Nicholas DeShane 2011/11/03 12:16:25
    No
    Nicholas DeShane
    +1
    McDonalds is just plain wrong.
  • redhorse29 2011/11/03 07:22:02
    Yes
    redhorse29
    Whenever I read or hear someone say they were trying to inform the public I see a selfish self promoting person. Behind everyone of their goodie goodie missions is something for them that comes at the cost of others.
  • Allen Wilson 2011/11/03 03:34:41
    No
    Allen Wilson
    Kids need shots and exposure to build up resistance.
  • Brendakp 2011/11/02 20:33:14
    No
    Brendakp
    +1
    First off, what a beautiful family! I think her research is very important. McDonald's probably wouldn't ban her if they didn't have something to hide.
  • Tony 2011/11/02 20:08:01
    Yes
    Tony
    They can ban whoever they want. Maybe if she wasn't trying to sensationalize her "findings" it wouldn't have happened.

    Sanitized environments are worse for childrens health anyway. They don;t allow the immune system do develop.
  • kraftymomma1979 2011/11/02 19:23:09
    No
    kraftymomma1979
    +1
    I have two teens. When they were little, they put everything in their mouths. I began to wonder if they were cocker spaniels in a previous life. The simple truth is this - dirt and germs are everywhere, even in our homes. I learned at home how important it was to keep sanitizer, handiwipes, etc. with me at all times and especially in public places.

    In public settings, the germ/bacteria factor will be even higher due to the larger number of people and the variety of people. However, a facility that is designed to make the bulk of their profits by attracting children needs to make great efforts to keep the place clean and safe. When I worked for McDonald's, our cleanliness requirements were higher than what the Health Department dictated. I never worried when I saw the health inspector coming because I knew we were always ready. Has McD's lowered their standards?
    I have noticed that most stores no longer have a dedicated lobby person. That could be a big part of what's causing this problem.
  • Dave 2011/11/02 18:19:15
    Yes
    Dave
    Mc Donald's has the right to kick the annoying self appointed witch the hell out of their establishment! If everyone was backed in their personal agenda to attack organizations, the damage would make owning anything or having any idea a crime.
  • alex 2011/11/02 18:11:37
    No
    alex
    +1
    theres a bitch who comes into burger king, and changes her diapers in the kids room on the friggin tables. THAT woman should be banned, not someone who tries hard to keep parents aware of the filth that their kids are playing in! i have cleaned the play room at burger king, and there was hair and dirt galore in there. it took me 4 hours to clean a two level play area that wasn't that big, thats how gross it was. i could only imagine how dirty the mcdonalds one is, conciddering that they have WAY more customers.
  • kenan01 2011/11/02 16:34:43
    Yes
    kenan01
    +4
    They have a right to ban anyone they please. It's their property.

    What they should have done was to welcome her research and learn from it how to provide a more safe environment. Win,win.
  • Tasine 2011/11/02 16:00:44
    Yes
    Tasine
    +2
    If she had information, she should have published it, reported it to the "proper authorities" (whoever that may be), but to disrupt a business is NOT the way to go. Wonder if this same "professor" has checked out the playgrounds at parks, schools, doctors' offices, school rooms, public bathrooms, etc. What person in their right mind would expect a playground to be pristine?

    Bet this "professor" would have a heart attack is she checked out hallways of hospitals!
  • Ann Griffith 2011/11/02 15:59:03
    No
    Ann Griffith
    +2
    What do have to hide?
  • Simi Dave 2011/11/02 15:23:40
    No
    Simi Dave
    +2
    I've seen the video... They don't like what they see? Clean it. Sticking their head in the sand is hardly the answer. Their CLAIM is that they clean the equipment, well, some of that stuff in the PHX store was NOT from that very morning as it was well dried on...
    OTOH, why does she want to go BACK to Fat Mac's knowing how gross the store is???
  • The Catalyst 2011/11/02 14:39:10
    No
    The Catalyst
    +1
    Nope, Obviously not, it seems like they are afraid.
  • Tasine The Cat... 2011/11/02 16:06:13
    Tasine
    +1
    No reason to be afraid. Disgusted is more what I would feel.
  • The Cat... Tasine 2011/11/02 16:31:48
    The Catalyst
    Why?
  • Tasine The Cat... 2011/11/02 16:36:35
    Tasine
    +1
    If someone was trying to destroy my livelihood, I'd be disgusted. However, I would NEVER have had a "playground" in the first place. If I had one, I'd TRY to keep it clean. IF someone caught it dirty, I'd encourage that person to eat elsewhere, but first and foremost take her children somewhere else to be baby-sat.
  • The Cat... Tasine 2011/11/02 16:39:45
    The Catalyst
    Makes sense. Do you think she's trying to harm them?
  • Tasine The Cat... 2011/11/02 17:42:07
    Tasine
    +1
    Only indirectly. I don't think it's her goal, but I believe it is one of those "unintended consequences". I think her goal is to make a name for herself, ergo, MONEY. I also think her concern for kids is only a sideline to make the story sell big time.
  • norman Tasine 2011/11/02 20:26:38
    norman
    +1
    That's a bit on the cynical side, don't you think? Doesn't anyone ever act in accordance with their stated goals? Is there always an ulterior motive? Do you ever act in certain ways simply because it's the right thing to do or do you also always have an ulterior motive for all of your actions?

    Your answers seem to imply you think a private business is somehow sacred and should never be criticized, interfered with in any way, required to adhere to decent standards, owe any debt or allegiance to the communities they operate in, or (and here's the dirtiest word of all) be regulated. Why should a business be exempt community standards? Why should any business be exempt from the same sort of rules all of us citizens are expected to adhere to?

    And what's with the "professor" stuff? Do you have a problem with educators? Or is it simply with "educated people?"
  • Tasine norman 2011/11/02 23:07:09
    Tasine
    +1
    You must not have read this line I wrote above: "If she had information, she should have published it, reported it to the "proper authorities" (whoever that may be), but to disrupt a business is NOT the way to go. " What in that sentence says I think businesses should be exempt from community standards?

    To your other comments: I NEVER do anything for an ulterior motive, and sometimes the things I do because I believe them to be the "right thing to do", get me in all kinds of hot water. BUT one thing I never, ever do is to try to FORCE other people to do what I want them to do. Open confrontations at a business is just that - Force.

    Am I cynical? Yep, sure am - and for good reason. I have dealt with some of the nicest and sweetest people on this earth - and I've dealt with some of the worst ones. It would be nice to NOT be cynical, but if one is a realist and doesn't spend hours trying to find a way to put a nice face on every horrible thing in the universe. I think it would be impossible to not be cynical.

    Of all the "professions" that exist, I see politicians as the worst, and the university brainwashers as the next to worst. I see these people this way because they try to force others to do what they want them to do by virtue of lying and presenting misinformation, sh...

    You must not have read this line I wrote above: "If she had information, she should have published it, reported it to the "proper authorities" (whoever that may be), but to disrupt a business is NOT the way to go. " What in that sentence says I think businesses should be exempt from community standards?

    To your other comments: I NEVER do anything for an ulterior motive, and sometimes the things I do because I believe them to be the "right thing to do", get me in all kinds of hot water. BUT one thing I never, ever do is to try to FORCE other people to do what I want them to do. Open confrontations at a business is just that - Force.

    Am I cynical? Yep, sure am - and for good reason. I have dealt with some of the nicest and sweetest people on this earth - and I've dealt with some of the worst ones. It would be nice to NOT be cynical, but if one is a realist and doesn't spend hours trying to find a way to put a nice face on every horrible thing in the universe. I think it would be impossible to not be cynical.

    Of all the "professions" that exist, I see politicians as the worst, and the university brainwashers as the next to worst. I see these people this way because they try to force others to do what they want them to do by virtue of lying and presenting misinformation, shaming young people to see things "this" way or to be "a laughing stock".

    You think anything you like. Unlike you, I don't try to force people to be what pleases ME. You must be a university prof.
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  • Red Branch 2011/11/02 14:29:01
    Yes
    Red Branch
    +3
    McDonald's, unlike the US does not have a death wish, is not obligated to assist in its own destruction and will not enable its own demise.

    That said, there should be some basic sanitation performed on the equipment. But the same should be said for all kids' public play areas.

    STD's on that equipment, STD's on equipment that kids use indicates a far bigger problem than that she is complaining about. This one coming out of the kid's homes.
  • hatakah 2011/11/02 14:11:08
    Yes
    hatakah
    +1
    McDonalds is a private business and can decide to refuse service to whomever they wish.
    As a side note, I hope she makes their lives a living hell. How much would it cost them to spray and wipe everything with disinfectant? Hand wipes or alcohol gel at the entrances?
  • ILuvMonkeys 2011/11/02 13:45:32
  • VT 2011/11/02 13:33:04
    No
    VT
    +2
    All she is saying is clean up a little better. It's a food place not a park.
  • Aksana 2011/11/02 09:37:27
    Yes
    Aksana
    They do what they want
  • Scar 2011/11/02 08:13:15
    No
    Scar
    +1
    Why did the Fed give McDonald's $203,000,000 in bailout money again?
  • Michaelene Scar 2011/11/08 00:04:42
    Michaelene
    so they can keep hiring temporary seasonal and part time employees, over and over again, gotta keep those UE numbers down.
  • Mark 2011/11/02 06:26:14
    Yes
    Mark
    +2
    It's most Americans' overly hygienic obsessions that are leading to their children being as susceptible to diseases as they are. Only 30 years ago, our children were healthier than they are, now, and could play in the dirt without catching some disease. Now, thanks to overuse of antibacterial soaps and such, their immune systems have been compromised, and are not able to build up the antibodies necessary to fight such infections.

    I say "their", instead of "our", because I don't use such things, except when absolutely necessary: wounds and such. I rarely get sick due to my immune system actually working, and even when I do get sick, I can still work, because it's not that bad.
  • Tasine Mark 2011/11/02 16:13:41
    Tasine
    +1
    Very true, Mark. As a child my drinking water came from run-off water in a cistern, NOT a well. Periodically, my dad would descend into the cistern to get out dead mice, bird eggshells, bird nests, etc. The water was sanitized in no way. I doubt it was "healthy", but it is amazing that I have lived seven decades and have no diseases, no malformations, etc. I so seldom get the flu or colds that it is unbelievable. When I go to Mexico, I don't get Montezuma's revenge.

    I have built up antibodies that I'll bet kids of today don't have a trace of. And it is to their detriment that so many people today have a morbid fear of "germs". We have always had germs and always will.
  • Mark Tasine 2011/11/03 09:09:27
    Mark
    +1
    Yep, and those germs will get worse, as we try to stay clear of them, and only those who keep building more and more antibodies are going to survive in the long run.
  • Tasine Mark 2011/11/03 13:16:50
    Tasine
    True. And it is a likely scenario for the human race wiping itself out. It would be tragic - endangered because of our own fear. Only humans can do that to themselves. All other creatures understand and embrace nature.
  • Adam Mark 2012/01/05 01:55:01
    Adam
    Only partially correct, I agree with you however. With improper use of antibiotics we allow strains of bacteria to to become immune or to mutate into a form that i unrecognizable to the antibodies we have for that specific bacteria. Only those who have had an illness and made antibodies for the majority of a bacterias shape will have a chance. Others who only have antibodies for certain piece of a bacteria will be more likely to be affected by the change in bacteria.
  • Adam Mark 2012/01/05 01:49:53
    Adam
    Actually one thing to remember is that most if not all of these things are already on or in a person. Normal microbiotia exists on and in you and actually protect you from other potentially harmful microbiotia by competitive inhibition. Ensuring your child uses proper handwashing and teaching them not to lick public areas will do far more good then anything Mcdonalds can do. Well unless they run behind every kid with some bleach, that would work too.
  • Mark Adam 2012/01/06 00:06:13
    Mark
    I don't have anything against proper handwashing, and I definitely don't want people licking public areas. lol However, at the same time, using antibacterial soap every time you wash your hands is not proper handwashing.
  • Adam Mark 2012/01/06 00:22:29
    Adam
    +1
    I agree, I didnt mean to sound as if I didn't I merely wanted to add to your point with a little science ;)
  • LadyeCatte 2011/11/02 06:06:33
    No
    LadyeCatte
    +1
    I never eat at McDung's, anyway. If we ever have Soylent Green introduced secretly into society, I firmly believe this is where it'll start.. if it hasn't, already.
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