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Was Jesus A Prophet Of Islam?

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If you ask the organization Mypeace in Australia, Jesus wasn’t God, but he was a good prophet of Islam. That’s just one of the messages the group is set to debut on Australian buses in September. And it’s just one of the messages already plastered on billboards around Sydney.

As CNS News reports, “roadside billboards in the metropolitan Sydney area carry one of four simple slogans: ‘Jesus: A Prophet of Islam,‘ ’Holy Qur’an: The Final Testament,‘ ’Muhammad: Mercy to Mankind‘ and ’Islam: Got Questions? Get Answers.’

Now, those posters have now been adapted, and will appear on the outside of Sydney buses this fall:

“Mypeace.com.au a Muslim Organisation based in Sydney is launching a bold venture and the first of its kind in its public awareness campaign by placing ads about Islam on Sydney buses,” the group’s site explains. “Starting on September 27th of May 2011, for four weeks, several buses in Sydney will start carrying messages on the religion of Islam. Each ad will invite interested individuals to call MyPeace’s toll free number … and converse live with a Muslims to ask questions about Islam; request a free copy of the Quran and Islamic literature.”

The group adds that the bus ads will appear on the backs and sides of 40 buses traveling throughout Sydney.

But the ads are causing quite a stir. One billboard claiming Jesus is a prophet of Islam has already been vandalized, and now an Australian bishop is speaking out.

CNS News reports:

“In Australia with its Christian heritage a billboard carrying the statement ‘Jesus A prophet of Islam’ is provocative and offensive to Christians,” Julian Porteous, auxiliary bishop at the Catholic Archdiocese of Sydney, responded in an article.
“Central to Christianity is the belief that Jesus Christ is more than a prophet,” he said. “He is the Son of God. He is acclaimed

Lord and Savior of humanity. This statement is a direct assault on Christian beliefs.”

Porteous said religions should not “set out to antagonize those with differing beliefs.”

“Dialogue between the religions can only take place when it is founded in mutual respect. It is not fostered by provocative statements.”

Porteous urged Mypeace to withdraw the ads.

Considering the tenants of the Christian faith, and what Islam believes about Jesus, the group‘s claims are not in line with Christianity’s understanding of Jesus. For example, as CNS points out, Islam denies Christ’s “divinity, crucifixion, and resurrection.”

Still, in a video posted on Mypeace’s website, it claims that Islam is the “religion of Jesus and Moses:”

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  • God bless American freedom 2011/07/03 01:01:25 (edited)
    None of the above
    God bless American freedom
    +4
    Islam was invented by Muhammed circa 650 AD and Jesus had already died on a cross and raised his body from the grave long before Muhammed was an animal gleam in his parents eyes.

    It is not possible for Jesus of Nazareth to have been muslim since there was no Muhammed while the Jesus figure walked the earth.

    It is a lie historically and scripturally to claim Jesus was a muslim prophet. ( also proves ones stupidity/ignorance concerning scriptural history as well as islam/shari'a history.)

    Also.. God does mention long long before Muhammed was born ... there is no sex nor any religion nor any marriage in Gods heaven. ...which makes one wonder... why do muslims NOT study their own prophets recordings? Muhammeds fatah ul bari... ignored by islam totally .

    Silly silly lying theocrats...

    pretending a prophet co- owns the planet with the one God and through that prophets stupid arrogance... it means a theocracy co-owns the planet with the one God . Incredible arrogance of mankind eh? God makes all that is and shall ever be.. and men pretend they co-own it all with God? Narcissism.



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    John 2:19

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  • Traveller 2011/11/03 23:28:10
    None of the above
    Traveller
    Your given options here are incorrect. It shows the kind of choice you have made in life.
  • Rick 2011/07/31 23:15:35
    None of the above
    Rick
    +1
    Jesus is God incarnate. According to scripture, anyone that denies that has the spirit of Antichrist.
  • thetruth 2011/07/31 22:35:53
    None of the above
    thetruth
    +1
    It's obvious by the options for answers that you've given, that you are not truly seeking answers to this question, only trying to stir up trouble.

    Jesus Christ is more than a prophet, He is the Son of God! And has nothing to do with Islam, aka "the religion of hate." Islam only claims Jesus because Muhammad knew he had to throw Him in there to make his aspirations of murder and rape legitimate.
  • wanhaddad 2011/07/11 15:07:24
    None of the above
    wanhaddad
    Yes and they couldnt have slept in the bunk beds cause they were physically about 500 years apart. However, Jesus did meet him in theological reality in the Heavens when Muhammad ascended to receive prayer methodology from God. In fact, they did pray together.
  • God bless American freedom 2011/07/03 01:01:25 (edited)
    None of the above
    God bless American freedom
    +4
    Islam was invented by Muhammed circa 650 AD and Jesus had already died on a cross and raised his body from the grave long before Muhammed was an animal gleam in his parents eyes.

    It is not possible for Jesus of Nazareth to have been muslim since there was no Muhammed while the Jesus figure walked the earth.

    It is a lie historically and scripturally to claim Jesus was a muslim prophet. ( also proves ones stupidity/ignorance concerning scriptural history as well as islam/shari'a history.)

    Also.. God does mention long long before Muhammed was born ... there is no sex nor any religion nor any marriage in Gods heaven. ...which makes one wonder... why do muslims NOT study their own prophets recordings? Muhammeds fatah ul bari... ignored by islam totally .

    Silly silly lying theocrats...

    pretending a prophet co- owns the planet with the one God and through that prophets stupid arrogance... it means a theocracy co-owns the planet with the one God . Incredible arrogance of mankind eh? God makes all that is and shall ever be.. and men pretend they co-own it all with God? Narcissism.



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    John 2:19
  • wanhaddad God ble... 2011/07/11 15:33:52
    wanhaddad
    Ahh... as usual mockery. Come on...You're pretty contradicting as well!

    It's like saying, Noah and Moses and Enoch were all in fact not prophets of Christianity.

    We do study our prophet's recordings, it's compiled and called the Hadiths.

    We do not worship Muhammad. That would be blasphemy!! Our direction of worship is towards Mecca, FOR God, where the Earth's magnetic force field centralises - and NASA knows this. Go read how Obama wants NASA to be involved with the country. You'll know that too.

    Im not undermining Christianity because I don't need to, unlike you did with Islam.

    You stated Muhammad "gleamed in his parent's eyes". Now, i really know how much you are misinformed. No idea where you read that for certainly i know it won't be in the Bible or the Koran. My dear, Muhammad was orphaned very very young and was taken care by his Uncle.

    The truth hurts when we're all actually co-related to the same Abrahamic society and Adam and Eve.

    I do hope you read the proper facts. I would be honored to help if you need any reference for I too, would not like to read rubbish or wrong information on Christianity. Jesus afterall, is our prophet and your God.

    May Peace be all in Sodahead.
  • puffer wanhaddad 2011/07/12 14:46:25
    puffer
    +1
    Coco is not a Christian. Coco denies the scriptures. To get to a different point Islam believes in a different Jesus than Christianity. Islam claims Jesus was not crucified, I'm sure your aware of that. Islam claims Jesus is just a prophet. Scripture is clear that Jesus was crucified and that Jesus was much more than just a mere prophet. Jesus is God, the I AM. Either Jesus was speaking the truth about himself in John 8:56-59 Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad." So the Jews said to him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?" Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM" So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple. Its obvious what Jesus was claiming even the Jews understood this thats why they tried to stone him. Exodus 3:14 God said to Moses, "I am who I am." And he said, "Say this to the people of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'" now someone only has three options either Jesus was a lunatic, or he is not a prophet and he is a blasphemer like the jews thought or Jesus was God. Now If you don't believe me about coco check out our messages at the bottom of the page. Coco has no foundation in what he believes in.
  • God ble... puffer 2011/07/12 16:59:57 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    nor am I a muslim nor a jew .... thank God .. just a human God has made who does believe in God alone and not in men and mens religions/theocracies/ self adulations ...

    except for this foundation, Puffer .... carefully think of what I am writing eh?

    islam considers its "holy " book to BE the Holy Spirit itself , the Comforter ..... christians believe their "bible" is the "Word / aka the Holy Spirit ", the Comforter... ..............

    yet both theocracies consider themselves above one another.

    islam says the Jesus is nothing more than a liar and fraud while it simultaneously claims: taqiiya employed here ) he ( the christ Jesus ) is a prophet of islam which had not been invented yet by Muhammed ...............

    islam is itself begun by a male ( Muhammed ) who had immense psychological problems and physical problems to overcome ( he never did so ) whose grandiose ego ( narcissism / possibly bipolar disease with associations related to seizure disoder ) led billions now ( over one thousand years ) to their violent deaths ....

    christianity begun by a male not understood even now by more than billions ( the christ named Jesus ) but whose life was used by human males to further their own rule of human life .... on many levels....

    Very sad. VERY sad.

    Two opposite ma...

















    nor am I a muslim nor a jew .... thank God .. just a human God has made who does believe in God alone and not in men and mens religions/theocracies/ self adulations ...

    except for this foundation, Puffer .... carefully think of what I am writing eh?

    islam considers its "holy " book to BE the Holy Spirit itself , the Comforter ..... christians believe their "bible" is the "Word / aka the Holy Spirit ", the Comforter... ..............

    yet both theocracies consider themselves above one another.

    islam says the Jesus is nothing more than a liar and fraud while it simultaneously claims: taqiiya employed here ) he ( the christ Jesus ) is a prophet of islam which had not been invented yet by Muhammed ...............

    islam is itself begun by a male ( Muhammed ) who had immense psychological problems and physical problems to overcome ( he never did so ) whose grandiose ego ( narcissism / possibly bipolar disease with associations related to seizure disoder ) led billions now ( over one thousand years ) to their violent deaths ....

    christianity begun by a male not understood even now by more than billions ( the christ named Jesus ) but whose life was used by human males to further their own rule of human life .... on many levels....

    Very sad. VERY sad.

    Two opposite males.. one human ( Muhammed ) .. one not human, ( the christ named Jesus )

    one good according to the one God ( Jesus )
    one evil according to his own alaah ( Muhammed ), his own actions, his own statements, his own laws ( shari'a/islam ) ....

    and humanity vanity constantly ignoring truth so it can wage evil wars for whatefver reasoning/ego

    It is all childish and ignorant. And the real God tells us all.... we must all go before God in reverence to truth.

    isaiah 45:7 KJv .

    Best to learn to love one another as we each hope to BE loved by others eh?

    As the REAL God teaches?

    ........................
    If one feels compelled to misrepresent "religion" as if it is itself the God.. then that religious structure/stricture is nothing but a front.. a facade.. a false mask/veil used to promote its own greed for power and might over all while pretending it is not....

    More lies = theocracy = anti-God.
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  • puffer God ble... 2011/07/13 02:53:50
    puffer
    +1
    Christianity we claim the Bible is Holy Spirit inspired. second you have it wrong the WORD which comes from the greek word LOGOS is Jesus. see you are totally misinform.. Your writings show that you do not know Islam at all. I think its very sad how you think. where do you get your information from? the internet? Why don't you go to the real source. Third why you quote from Isaiah since you believe the Bible is not the word of God. you are inconsistent. If you going to expose any religion to being false atleast inform yourself or do it with honesty. Islam is false but I am not going to make up lies to try to expose it. You go to the source and clearly sir you are spreading false information.
    Christianity began with Jesus and his disciples. if you read you would know that. The Apostle Peter was one of Gods men used to start the Church at Pentecost.
  • God ble... puffer 2011/07/20 18:12:21 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    Puffer ... you are accurate that some christians claim the bible is the Holy Spirit inspired..but if you review what many people in here ( at least ) write of this .. many believe the bible is the Word itself..which it cannot possibly be since it contains sin. I agree some of it might be inspired by God .. but most is what men want .,.

    The bible is the work of men.. so of course it is easy to prove its inconsistancy ... God is the only consistant being.

    As you know.. I do believe there is only one God... and I think that God actually says very very little and mankind embellish in order to gain control over others rather than of themselves. ( theocracies , religions ) Of course I know the religion of the judae-christ began with Jesus of Nazareth when he instructed them to follow him.

    You know, Puffer... your christ says all shall come to him as children eh? So what does that make menkind? Adults fully grown? Or all children still learning? How else can isaiah 45:7 make any sense? Eh?

    Only our God is omniscient.

    And I do understand how islam was begun .

    The qur'an and the torah and hadith are not the Word at all.

    The being who stopped my early demise was... I do not know.. possibly an angel... but I am no christ placed into the womb of a virgin .... nor was Muhamme...





    Puffer ... you are accurate that some christians claim the bible is the Holy Spirit inspired..but if you review what many people in here ( at least ) write of this .. many believe the bible is the Word itself..which it cannot possibly be since it contains sin. I agree some of it might be inspired by God .. but most is what men want .,.

    The bible is the work of men.. so of course it is easy to prove its inconsistancy ... God is the only consistant being.

    As you know.. I do believe there is only one God... and I think that God actually says very very little and mankind embellish in order to gain control over others rather than of themselves. ( theocracies , religions ) Of course I know the religion of the judae-christ began with Jesus of Nazareth when he instructed them to follow him.

    You know, Puffer... your christ says all shall come to him as children eh? So what does that make menkind? Adults fully grown? Or all children still learning? How else can isaiah 45:7 make any sense? Eh?

    Only our God is omniscient.

    And I do understand how islam was begun .

    The qur'an and the torah and hadith are not the Word at all.

    The being who stopped my early demise was... I do not know.. possibly an angel... but I am no christ placed into the womb of a virgin .... nor was Muhammed. but i do know lots of madmen claim they are messengers of God....

    in hadith, puffer.. Muhammed claims he shall have full use of the mother ( Mariam ) of the Jesus figure as his sex slave/virgin .. always ready to be used , and then miraculously change back into a cute little virgin for him to use again and again etc etc etc.... Muhammed also claims the Jesus was a fraud .

    Anyway ... a christian who supports islam is not a christian but is a muslim performing his duty ( taqiyya ) to trick others into belief islam is wonderful. Only God is good ... and NO religion is God ever... no angel either. Try to remember.. God removed angels who pretended themselves equal to God and above others... because they were liars... and God allows them to walk the earth still lying. Muhammed was just a man. Only a man . Not God or co-owner of anything with God.

    I often wonder if things like this tedious argument make God laugh. I tend to think God has a wonderful and perfect sense of humour.
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  • puffer God ble... 2011/07/21 19:34:46 (edited)
    puffer
    First of all let me stop you with false assumptions you are making, were do you get the idea that I was defending Islam? By me being honest about your dishonesty or your false information on a different religion is not me defending Islam. If you really did care about anyone you would point the errors in a different religion with truth not false information. Just as iI have been proving your inconsistencies in your beliefs that can be cultish. Can you prove some inconstancies in The Bible? Can you show me some for example? And I will do my best to answer them for you. You have to remember scripture original writings were written in Hebrew/ Aramaic and Greek so we cannot claim contradictions in scripture based on translations. Isaiah 45:7 shows the sovereignty of God. God does as he wills. God chooses who to save. Man cannot or desires to choose and worship the true God. Salvation is of God alone. And Jesus paid the price for all who believe in him ( his sheep, his bride, the elect) he did not pay the price for all who would perish. Second you are wrong about the Bible containing sin. The Bible does speak about sin this does not mean it contains it. Just as God has spoken about sin through his scriptures doesn't mean God contains sin. Second Isaiah 45:7 the correct word is Ca...

    First of all let me stop you with false assumptions you are making, were do you get the idea that I was defending Islam? By me being honest about your dishonesty or your false information on a different religion is not me defending Islam. If you really did care about anyone you would point the errors in a different religion with truth not false information. Just as iI have been proving your inconsistencies in your beliefs that can be cultish. Can you prove some inconstancies in The Bible? Can you show me some for example? And I will do my best to answer them for you. You have to remember scripture original writings were written in Hebrew/ Aramaic and Greek so we cannot claim contradictions in scripture based on translations. Isaiah 45:7 shows the sovereignty of God. God does as he wills. God chooses who to save. Man cannot or desires to choose and worship the true God. Salvation is of God alone. And Jesus paid the price for all who believe in him ( his sheep, his bride, the elect) he did not pay the price for all who would perish. Second you are wrong about the Bible containing sin. The Bible does speak about sin this does not mean it contains it. Just as God has spoken about sin through his scriptures doesn't mean God contains sin. Second Isaiah 45:7 the correct word is Calamity. Old translation misinterpreted the word calamity for EVIL. I form light and create darkness,
    I make well-being and create CALAMITY,
    I am the Lord, who does all these things. (Isaiah 45:7 ESV) God is omniscient and omnipotent. And God did allow sin to enter the world but he has a purpose for it. Sin entering the world did not catch God by surprise. He could of stopped it since he has the power to do so but chose not to. And he knows why. And still and all God remains Holy and not guilty of sinning since God does not sin. Outside from the Word of God ( Scriptures) you will never know the true Jesus Christ and if God does not open your eyes to your errors you will perish and you will be held accountable and fully responsible for your actions.
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  • puffer God ble... 2011/07/21 20:50:45
    puffer
    Your wrong, not some of scripture is inspired by God, But ALL scripture is inspired by God.
    All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, (2 3:16 ESV)
    "The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law. (Deuteronomy 29:29 ESV)
    But the words "it was counted to him" were not written for his sake alone, (Romans 4:23 ESV)

    For whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope. (Romans 15:4 ESV)
    knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. (2 1:20 ESV)For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. (2 1:21 ESV)
  • puffer God ble... 2011/07/21 21:43:04 (edited)
    puffer
    When Christ says you must become "LIKE" children to enter the Kingdom of heaven. Jesus meant it as children are humble, in the way that they don't have nothing to offer, Or contribute. We must become like that when it comes to Salvation, to come to God. You have nothing absolutely nothing. Even what you take as your life really belongs to God. Your days of life are numbered. God has set a day when you will die and there is nothing you can do about it. That's the sovereignty of God. He does as he pleases. And I am sure what you call tedious, its not to God and God does not find this laughable. God takes his holiness and truth seriously. Jesus came to testify of the truth and those who deny it will perish. Because they are sinners.
  • puffer God ble... 2011/07/13 04:16:12 (edited)
    puffer
    +1
    You don't even understand how Islam got started. Even in the Koran it speaks about the Bible as God's word. Muhammed was trying to preach what he thought was the Gospel. and him like you had an experience with a being. He thought it was the Angel Gabriel. this angel told him " Muhammed you are a messenger of God" Muhammed also as yourself claimed that God was one" Muhammed supposebly did not know how to read, but very likely he heard and memorize parts what was written in the Bible. That he had heard from Jews and christians surrounding him.He really thought he was speaking for god (allah) but he was deceived by this fallen Angel. He thought he was adding to the Bible. Like I said the koran talks highly about the Bible. Surah 5:47-48
    The People of the gospel shall rule in accordance with Allahs revelations therein. those who do not rule in accordance with Allahs revelations are wicked. Then we reveal to you this scripture, truthfully, confirming PREVIOUS SCRIPTURES and superceding them, you should rule them in accordance with Allahs revelations. But the Koran is not God's word. The Bible is. I hate the saying " Ignorance is a bliss". Ignorance is not a bliss. And I am not defending the Koran, but Ill be honest about what it says and what it teaches and how that religion came to be.
  • wanhaddad puffer 2011/07/13 09:54:44
    wanhaddad
    Thank you Puffer for this insight. Only with such immense understanding can we all reconcile to understand each other. The war between the right or true religion is pointless if we keep referring to our own text and books without the openness of reading the correct text of others.

    I bear witness that the Koran does not mention that Jesus was a fraud. He is afterall our prophet, and that is all that we claim. We dont even call the Koran = Spirit. It's amazing how such people have gotten the twisted informations.

    God save the prophets from Pharoah, Adversities and so much hardships for their belief. Narcissity is never a subject taught by God - of all the people of the books, be it Torah, Gospels or Koran.

    Some men of these times just twist his words to suit his belief. I wouldnt deny they come from my religion too and brought terror to this world. But im just here to reconcile our brothership.

    God bless you Puffer! deny religion terror world reconcile brothership god bless puffer abrahamic religion
  • puffer wanhaddad 2011/07/13 23:53:50
    puffer
    I say this with much respect, I don't think it's pointless fighting for what is truth. Because Truth is at stake. And only 1 way to salvation. Jesus was clear on that. But I do believe it's best to dialog or debate in a respectful manner. Islam and Christianity are two way different gospels. The scriptures claim that Jesus is much more than a prophet. What I have read in the Koran in Surah 5:47-48 it mentions that the Bible is inspired by God. It talks about the previous writings which is the Bible. Now if the Koran is from an all knowing God, why would he refer to the Bible as also Gods word and that men should obey what the Bible teaches? Even if it contradicts the Korans writings. The Koran says Jesus was never crucified. The Bible says Jesus was crucified. Even the bible Torah writings prophecies of the crucified Messiah. Isaiah 53 and in psalms 22. But the Koran written much later says other wise. Some Muslims claim that the bible has been corrupted, wouldn't an all knowing God know that was going to happen before he said it in Surah 5:47-48. That's a big problem. I don't believe the Bible was ever corrupted around 25,000 manuscripts found and they are all 99.9 percent accurate. Another error found in the Koran is in Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), “We killed Chri...

    I say this with much respect, I don't think it's pointless fighting for what is truth. Because Truth is at stake. And only 1 way to salvation. Jesus was clear on that. But I do believe it's best to dialog or debate in a respectful manner. Islam and Christianity are two way different gospels. The scriptures claim that Jesus is much more than a prophet. What I have read in the Koran in Surah 5:47-48 it mentions that the Bible is inspired by God. It talks about the previous writings which is the Bible. Now if the Koran is from an all knowing God, why would he refer to the Bible as also Gods word and that men should obey what the Bible teaches? Even if it contradicts the Korans writings. The Koran says Jesus was never crucified. The Bible says Jesus was crucified. Even the bible Torah writings prophecies of the crucified Messiah. Isaiah 53 and in psalms 22. But the Koran written much later says other wise. Some Muslims claim that the bible has been corrupted, wouldn't an all knowing God know that was going to happen before he said it in Surah 5:47-48. That's a big problem. I don't believe the Bible was ever corrupted around 25,000 manuscripts found and they are all 99.9 percent accurate. Another error found in the Koran is in Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah”—... This is the famous verse use to claim Jesus was not crucified. Do you see the error? It shows the Jews calling Jesus, Christ Jesus. The Jews would of never called Jesus " Christ" which means " Messiah". They rejected Jesus as the Christ as their Messiah. Wouldn't an all knowing God know that? The Koran is not Gods word. Like I told people before I do believe is possible that Muhammed had an encounter with an angel. But it was a fallen Angel. Muhammed was preaching a different gospel from Jesus and Jesus disciples. Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. I do know you guys claim Jesus as a prophet. But the way it's written in scripture Jesus couldn't just be a prophet. Either he was a Liar, a lunatic, or he is God but not just a prophet. Just a prophet would never claim to be God. The Jews very well understood what Jesus claims where and tried to stone him. John 8:58-59 Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM"
    Jesus repeated an old testament verse Exodus 3:14 God said to Moses, "I AM who I AM" And he said, "Say this to the people of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'" The Jews very well understood Jesus claim back to John 8:59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.
    John 10:31-33 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, "I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?" The Jews answered him, "It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God." Christianity and Islam will never agree or coexist as the same belief. Because both preach and believe two different gospels. And there is only one Truth. John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6 ESV) nice talking to you. Truth is more important than religion. Religion does not save. Jesus does.
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  • wanhaddad puffer 2011/07/14 09:28:09
    wanhaddad
    Yeap, I know all that and understand the basis of Christianity arguments with Islam. Nevertheless thank you sooo much for the reminder. God bless you and have a good day!
  • puffer wanhaddad 2011/07/14 17:35:58
    puffer
    +1
    No problem, take care.
  • God ble... puffer 2011/07/28 14:13:15 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    bibles are not Gods word. Bibles promote mankinds personal goal to own other humans ( slavery though the real God led people OUT and away from slavery ) and wealth and pretend of sexual prowess. ( aka greed )

    Not a new argument and is one used by religious/theocratic pretenders whose goal is to promote mankinds greed desires as if God has the same desires as men do.

    Lies.


    The real God stated he alone is good. Gods original seven commands prove it.

    Interfaith cultural liars promote a false god.


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  • God ble... wanhaddad 2011/07/12 16:45:45 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    May the peace accorded to those who love truth of GOD above men/prophets/religions be with all humans.

    Source? : love for GOD. And God is no man or prophet.
  • wanhaddad God ble... 2011/07/12 16:48:40
    wanhaddad
    God Bless You too.

    And try not to make a mock out of any religion then.

    Source: Humanity & Mutual Respect, given by God.
  • God ble... wanhaddad 2011/07/12 17:37:25 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    religion is of beliefs of men.... not God... God is no man. It is easy to mock men... they just do not happen to like being mocked much is all. Does not matter one bit.. There is NO religion in heaven according to the God of Moses and Abraham and Jesus. God does not need religion.. men want it.

    Terrible how men keep ignoring what their God has told them. That is how theocracies begin.. by the desire of men to add or subtract from the very little God said.

    If anyone needs a wonderful religion, considered by many to be pure and perfect before God.. then examine James 1:27.

    ................
  • wanhaddad God ble... 2011/07/13 09:59:37
    wanhaddad
    re·li·gion [ri-lij-uhn] –noun
    1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

    2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.

    3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.

    In short Coco, Religion is a word to describe the practice. Just a word to keep human conversation and comprehension simple. You're absolutely contradicting with all your rebuttal, the obvious pointless. Whatever God told them = is conceived to be a way of life, a practice to know God hence Religion is made to unite the social community of any particular belief to a higher power.
  • God ble... wanhaddad 2011/07/28 14:20:50
    God bless American freedom
    No.

    My rebuttal is in support of what God said of God.

    God is ALONE good.

    God does not promote religions. Men who want to control other peoples but rarely themselves ..love to promote religions.

    If you crave a religion so much.. choose James 1:27 KJv and do not promote anything or anyone religiously or politicially who causes widows and orphans to be around.

    Enough .
  • Arrogant 2011/06/09 09:29:02
    None of the above
    Arrogant
    +3
    Islam can say whatever they want. Its all lies anyway. There's also a passage in the Koran about Mohammed being better than Jesus at Halo Online.
    Muslims will say ANYTHING to get you to accept their cult as a religion. Saying anything is not limited to the truth.
  • God ble... Arrogant 2011/07/03 01:23:36 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    " Saying anything is not limited to the truth " = taqiyya .. which Muhammed encouraged his followers to do to promote, excuse, trick anyone non muslim into acceptance of islam.

    islam is a theocracy.... a political/greed motivated " religion" bent on world ownership .. nearly the same as the one the Americans threw off in 1776 .. just wearing another name ....

    I have seen a few muslims in these chatrooms claim taqiyya is a political thing limited to one splinter group or another of islam... hoever..that itself is taqiyya since Muhammed himself commands it and in his time there were no splinter groups.....

    Muhammeds entire motivation from the beginning of his " religion" was for self gain..self aggrandisment .... he had married a wealthy widow and he was expected to obey her since he brought nothing material into the marriage.... he had disappeared for a few days .. probably to escape her for awhile.... and to explain his return and absence.... I am quite certain he made up the entire "visitation" "vision" " religion" "alaah" to escape her wrath because he was not to be found , and as a manipulator in the making he already had success simply by marrying her.... he knew her superstitious weaknesses and used her superstitions to propell himself above her.... psychologically ...







    " Saying anything is not limited to the truth " = taqiyya .. which Muhammed encouraged his followers to do to promote, excuse, trick anyone non muslim into acceptance of islam.

    islam is a theocracy.... a political/greed motivated " religion" bent on world ownership .. nearly the same as the one the Americans threw off in 1776 .. just wearing another name ....

    I have seen a few muslims in these chatrooms claim taqiyya is a political thing limited to one splinter group or another of islam... hoever..that itself is taqiyya since Muhammed himself commands it and in his time there were no splinter groups.....

    Muhammeds entire motivation from the beginning of his " religion" was for self gain..self aggrandisment .... he had married a wealthy widow and he was expected to obey her since he brought nothing material into the marriage.... he had disappeared for a few days .. probably to escape her for awhile.... and to explain his return and absence.... I am quite certain he made up the entire "visitation" "vision" " religion" "alaah" to escape her wrath because he was not to be found , and as a manipulator in the making he already had success simply by marrying her.... he knew her superstitious weaknesses and used her superstitions to propell himself above her.... psychologically speaking even now in mankinds history... males make fun of one another if they feel a lowly female is capable of pushing a male around eh? He pushed this " religion " into a business venture by pretending his personal alah commanded him to steal.. to maim .. to torture ... to murder .... all while simultaneously saying his personal alaah was a god of "mercy " .. and it grew from there..... a political business venture used to elevate himself in the community ... wearing the guise of superstitions about a god ( his alaah was stolen from a group pf pagans who had a moon god as one of their polygods.... never mind he had made fun of all their gods including this moon god .... islam ignores this as usual,.... )

    that Muhammed changed torah and nt scriptures to suit his own agenda is not new or a surprise....

    the worst of it is .. that mankind ALWAYS wants to be fooled ... to be mislead .. that way they can always find a reason to excuse their own evil behaviours.



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  • wanhaddad Arrogant 2011/07/11 15:41:07
    wanhaddad
    Hahahaha funny, Im Muslim and never came across that passage.

    why so seriiouuuussss???

    Oh just fyi, we love Jesus & Holy Mary. They even got a chapter in our Holy Book. That'll be a better read than Halo Online, trust me!

    I've read yours, hmm maybe you should think about say... Luke 1:37. :)

    God bless you for Jesus would have wanted all of us to treat our neighbours like ourselves be treated.
  • God ble... wanhaddad 2011/07/12 17:43:47 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    the last sentence you apply .. "Jesus would have wanted all of us to treat our neighbors like ourselves be treated " .... the Jesus of nazareth beheaded none.... crucified none, burned no ones eyeballs, dismembered none, stoned not one , murdered none , owned none , raped none, married none , took no property from others , murdered no cities, murdered no camels or traders, murdered no cities ... stole nothing from any caravans .. forced no man to divorce his wife so Muhammed could use her for "marriage" ... owned no one ....... warned no one in writing they would be slaughtered if they refused islam ...

    read torah, nt, (NOT muhammeds versions ) qur'an, hadith of Bukhari, fatah ul bari.
  • wanhaddad God ble... 2011/07/13 10:05:21
    wanhaddad
    Yes Coco, Jesus did not do all those horrible things. Please do refer back to all my points and tell me if i'd said any of those.

    My humor was inspired by the irrational views of people who misquoted texts from my own religion when we don't even recognise any of them.

    The Taqiyya and Hadiths that you read are probably twisted by anti-Islams or even anti-Abrahamic Religionist who wishes to separate our brotherhood. Open your eyes and ignore what some corrupted Men are doing in the name of God. They may be Presidents of an Islamic countries, terrorists too. And i dont deny that they have too twisted the Koran.
  • God ble... wanhaddad 2011/07/20 18:38:04 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    muhammed did do those terrible inhumane corrupt things .

    my qur'an is published in UAE, Saud used and approved... and they are the royal caliphate .. followed and obeyed by all islam current everyday everywhere islam/shari'a exists .

    the christian compilation I use is a King James version published in the USA .

    The reason mankind must not follow prophets ... is because God stated , only God is good.

    ............................
  • God ble... wanhaddad 2011/07/20 18:31:04
    God bless American freedom
    sahih muslim
  • iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~ 2011/06/09 09:27:56
    Yes, Jesus and Muhammad Love each other and Sleep in Bunk Beds
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    According to their faith, he is.
  • wanhaddad iamthem... 2011/07/11 15:42:04
    wanhaddad
    +1
    and to both our faith, we can agree he was indeed a miracle. :)
  • iamthem... wanhaddad 2011/07/12 14:51:03
    iamthemob ~ the 444th Guru ~
    +1
    I think that, for many if not most, regardless of your faith you can look at Christ as something of a miracle.
  • God ble... wanhaddad 2011/07/12 17:46:44 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    if the Jesus was such a big miracle.. why did Muhammed proclaim Jesus to be nothing but a fraud later ? Why claim God created Jesus as a miracle.. and then proclaimthat miracle from God nothing but a fraud liar later ? ............... Hmmmmm? HOW is it possible for Muhammed to say his allaah makes Jesus a miracle...but then later proclaim his allaah made the Jesus a liar and fraud? Hmmmmmm ? How?

    Is God the liar? or is Muhammed?

    ALSO.. why didn't God choose Muhammed to be the saviour of all mankind bourne of the Holy Spirit into the womb of Mariam the mother of the Jesus? HOW does Muhammed claim he gets to perpetually rape the virgin mother of the miracle Jesus but not his own mother ?

    ( Source : qur'an : hadith of Bukhari )

    Any answer as to why Muhammed absolutely forbade all islam from questioning the qur'an and Muhammed as to his myriad contradictions?
  • wanhaddad God ble... 2011/07/13 10:11:17
    wanhaddad
    Muhammad did not claim Jesus as a fraud. He is our prophet. Is that the only rebuttal you can make out from here?

    I do not question God's will and everyone knows He has his own way. Who said Muhammad raped Holy Mary! They're almost 500 years apart! All these accusations are blasphemies! I do hope you would cool down and chill and take a moment to reflect on all your statements. The Hadith of Bukhari did not state all that.

    Your naming of the people who practise Islam, as Islam, truly tells me that there's much more you need to learn about other people. Christianity has Christians, Islam has Muslims. Do learn the proper noun.
  • God ble... wanhaddad 2011/07/20 18:39:45 (edited)
    God bless American freedom
    read ( hadith Bukhari ) so you can see where Muhammed claimed the Jesus figure was nothing but a fraud... fatah ul bari so you can learn the proper things Muhammed taught in his last fugue/vision.

    Taqiyya is boorish.
  • tomas 2011/06/09 07:02:33
    None of the above
    tomas
    +1
    Tell you what.....lets Jesus make that call when he returns. I know who's side I am on.
  • puffer tomas 2011/07/03 15:30:51 (edited)
    puffer
    +2
    Jesus has already made that call on it. It's in the scriptures. Jesus is not the prophet of Islam. According to Islam Jesus was just a prophet. According to the scriptures and many who had witness him he was God/ a Prophet, the son of God/ son of man/ a miracle worker/ the king of kings and Lords of Lords. Jesus was much more than just a prophet. He came to save sinners. Just a prophet could not do that. We cannot be just content on believing in any Jesus. It has to be the true Jesus and we should always be ready to give defense on why we believe. 1 Peter 3:15 but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect, (ESV)
  • God ble... puffer 2011/07/10 17:40:51
    God bless American freedom
    I think you and Tomas are arguing the same side without knowing it. eh?

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