On assignment to the pentagon, class A's should be the uniform... on duty in a combat zone.... fatigues ...finally makes sense
Looks like someone at the Army got some sense...(sorry guys, Old Jarhead couldnt resist)
Was It a Good Move to Change Soldier Attire at the Pentagon?
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2011/06/16 11:00:00
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No longer will Army soldiers be lost in the desert and jungle wallpaper in the cafeteria of the Pentagon.* Beginning this week, a couple changes went into effect in the building.
First, as Fox News reports, soldiers who once wore combat fatigues to work at the Pentagon will now be required to wear the formal service uniform. Additionally, the black beret, which proved deeply unpopular with American soldiers, will be replaced by a patrol cap for everyday wear, U.S. Army spokesman Col. Tom Collins said.
The black beret, it should be noted, is popular with the Army Rangers, who have traditionally worn the chapeau as a sign of distinction – as special forces have the green beret and the Airborne division have maroon.
After 9/11, then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld had the soldiers at the Pentagon don combat fatigues to remind them we were at war.** However, the current SecDef, Robert Gates, last year ordered a change back to the more business-like attire for work in Washington. Some think this will give soldiers dealing with D.C. bureaucrats a greater level of respect in civilian situations.
The hat change also seems to be a-OK with soldiers. Chief Warrant Officer Mark Vino, at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state, told the Army Times, “I hate wearing a wet sock on my head…Plus it makes head/skin break out.”
With the ground wars under America's belt getting less and less daily attention in the press, was it a good idea to keep those “over there” on the tips of everyone’s sartorial tongues? Or is the change of garb a good move?
*We cannot confirm there are actually landscapes papered on the walls of the Pentagon cafeteria.
**New dress uniforms do not indicate an end to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
First, as Fox News reports, soldiers who once wore combat fatigues to work at the Pentagon will now be required to wear the formal service uniform. Additionally, the black beret, which proved deeply unpopular with American soldiers, will be replaced by a patrol cap for everyday wear, U.S. Army spokesman Col. Tom Collins said.
The black beret, it should be noted, is popular with the Army Rangers, who have traditionally worn the chapeau as a sign of distinction – as special forces have the green beret and the Airborne division have maroon.
After 9/11, then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld had the soldiers at the Pentagon don combat fatigues to remind them we were at war.** However, the current SecDef, Robert Gates, last year ordered a change back to the more business-like attire for work in Washington. Some think this will give soldiers dealing with D.C. bureaucrats a greater level of respect in civilian situations.
The hat change also seems to be a-OK with soldiers. Chief Warrant Officer Mark Vino, at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state, told the Army Times, “I hate wearing a wet sock on my head…Plus it makes head/skin break out.”
With the ground wars under America's belt getting less and less daily attention in the press, was it a good idea to keep those “over there” on the tips of everyone’s sartorial tongues? Or is the change of garb a good move?
*We cannot confirm there are actually landscapes papered on the walls of the Pentagon cafeteria.
**New dress uniforms do not indicate an end to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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bluelady 2011/06/16 13:46:53Yes





















No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.The spirit of God needs to be in us. to love one another. Then the soul is saved. That is what is important for eternity.This interest in military attire is focusing on a dead lifeless things Like an Idol the Amorites would bow down to.
We each had a "gig" book and would be marked down for being sloppy if one piece of fuzzy thread was showing. Everyone had a pen knife to keep things looking sharp.
As to the beret, I was always against its mass implementation. It used to be reserved for elite units. When it was expanded to include everyone, it created a "sameness reward." Besides, I've always preferred the Patrol cap. It's much more practical.
P.S. NCO's keep everyone on their toes. I'm up from the ranks. I remember in my early days back in the stone age, referring to a Sergeant as "Sir." He looked at me with a scowl and firmly replied "Don't call me Sir. I'm not an officer. I work." That was one of my early mistakes, along with referring to a Guide On as a "flag." Boy, did I get hell for that.
I'm a Jewish guy from Brooklyn. My family came her in the 1880's. My lovely wife of 28 years is a WASP with lineage going back to 1705. My family were the foundry workers who with their sweat, made the Iwo Jima Memorial Statue in Washington DC. Yup. It was made in Greenpoint Brooklyn. My wife's ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War and got a small amount of land for their efforts in Western New York State. They were small dairy farmers ever since.
I loved her dad. He proudly called himself a "Redneck" and loved tooling around in the 1969 GTO I rebuilt with the help of a good old boy from Ohio. The Best Man at our Wedding was from Trinidad. Like me, he was a staunch conservative and like my brother. That's the beauty of America.
Where we part company is in our interpretation of Barack Obama. I appreciate someone who accomplished someth...
I'm a Jewish guy from Brooklyn. My family came her in the 1880's. My lovely wife of 28 years is a WASP with lineage going back to 1705. My family were the foundry workers who with their sweat, made the Iwo Jima Memorial Statue in Washington DC. Yup. It was made in Greenpoint Brooklyn. My wife's ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War and got a small amount of land for their efforts in Western New York State. They were small dairy farmers ever since.
I loved her dad. He proudly called himself a "Redneck" and loved tooling around in the 1969 GTO I rebuilt with the help of a good old boy from Ohio. The Best Man at our Wedding was from Trinidad. Like me, he was a staunch conservative and like my brother. That's the beauty of America.
Where we part company is in our interpretation of Barack Obama. I appreciate someone who accomplished something. A Community Organizer is not a leader in the true sense. They are rabble rousers who as with Obama, hide behind devisiveness and hate to manipulate the mob and shake people down through fear. I've seen a good deal of this over the years in my New York City.
Years ago, I took riot training in uniform. One of the things I was taught is that you never really get the leaders. They stir up the mob and then pull back to avoid getting hurt. That's the concept of a community organizer. It's like that with the Jihadis. Then never put on an explosive belt themselves. They just get other people killed to further their own agenda and enhance their power.
In any event, he was wearing his BDU's back then and came to pick up something from my apartment and bring it back to our Armory. When he arrived, he asked me if my neighborhood was always "this nutty," explaining that when he passed by the "peace" group, they began shouting "baby killer."
Not known for his passivity, I asked him if he responded. He said "I told them I only kill the ones I eat." He really shouldn't have said anything, but what a great Sergeant's comeback.
Did I tell you that I was originally from Philadelphia, PA. Yeah, I am pretty well used to the Jewish Kids from Brooklyn. We used to go there, and them to South Philly for Gang wars.
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Tradition for the Navy and Coast Guard is too expensive, and not Practical.
Sometimes something has more value when it has to be earned.
Marines make it look better. 8)
whoever decided fatigues were for the office was an ignorant fool...