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Jarod Kochman 2012/06/05 06:05:02
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  • The Birdman 2012/06/05 09:20:10
    No
    The Birdman
    +20
    The Military loved him, the secret service loved him, enough voters loved him or he wouldn't have won 2 terms, and even the loony left media loved him for the fun they had at his expense, but he took it like a MAN and kept his cool, and did what he had to for the country we all know he loves! The military hates O-stupid, the secret service hates both O-vomits, the voters of this country will let him know how much we don't love him in November, but on the bright side, the media will keep their mouths firmly wrapped around his pencil-dick for years to cum, regardless of the damage he's done and still doing to the country WE love!

    Oh, yeah! On just a side note, at least we KNOW Bush is a true American! Even his father could become president! Let's just see if O-Vomit can stand up to that kind of scrutiny! His scum sucking father would be in gitmo if he was alive today!

    obama sucks

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  • Jerry W... COMALite J 2012/12/21 21:21:27
    Jerry Whidby
    That number has been highly criticized by Peer review http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... for its accuracy. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Also that number does not just include citizens of Iraq. The death toll in total is probably closer to 200,000. Around 8,000 of those would be American soldiers, if you sum the casualties from Iraq and Afghanistan..Those numbers will include Iraqi's fighting with us and against us as well as civilians. It is sometimes difficult to determine who among the dead was an enemy combatant, or an innocent bystander. There have been several cases where the terrorist take hostages in places like Mosques. I wonder what the worldwide death toll is for people slain by Muslim terrorist? The war started in 2003. Bush left office in early 2009. Five years of this war was under his administration. Four years and counting under Obama.
  • COMALite J Jerry W... 2012/12/21 21:58:48 (edited)
    COMALite J
    +1
    I wasn’t just talking about war casualties from actual weapons. The figure includes the allegedly over a million mostly children who starved to death from the economic sanctions before the war and disruption to their economy resulting from the war.
  • Jerry W... COMALite J 2012/12/21 23:57:33
    Jerry Whidby
    Shouldn't you lay the blame for that on countries like France and Russia who were involved in the Oil for Food Scandal. Humanitarian aid was given. They just found away around the sanctions for their own profit. Why aren't you blaming Saddam Hussein. Wouldn't he be a 1 percenter that deserves to be hated. He lived in lavish palaces while his people went hungry. It is amazing to me how all of these dictators can find ways to sneak weapons into their countries, but they can't sneak food in? Hey North Korea are you proud of that new missile while your people starve. The US Treasury flew 12B in cash to Iraq which was then handed out from the backs of pickup trucks. I am sure that it was equal parts humanitarian aid and propaganda, but at least they were using a kinder method. Children started telling soldiers about IEDs, because the soldiers had shown them kindness.
  • COMALite J Jerry W... 2012/12/25 07:08:56
    COMALite J
    Yes, everyone involved in Oil for Food shares blame in this.

    You must have me confused with a typical OWSer. I′ve repeatedly posted that OWS got it wrong, and I admire the vast majority (at least 4,999 out of every 5,000 if not more) of the 1%.

    Saddam Hussein was a very evil man. But he was by no means the most evil ruler or warlord of that time. Why didn’t Bush do more against Joseph Kony, whose Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) not only tried to overthrow the government of Uganda, but kidnapped numerous children from villages to train the boys to be killing machine soldiers while the girls were made into child sex slaves for himself and his chief officers (look up “Night Commuters”)? What about Kin Jong-Il, who lived higher on the hog while his people starved worse, and who actually was trying to make nukes? We let him die peacefully of old age, still beloved by the people he so badly oppressed!

    Kim Jong-Il wouldn’t even let his people have electricity!
    North Korea night satellite image

    So why didn’t Bush do more against them?

    Oh, right. No oil to speak of.
  • Jerry W... COMALite J 2012/12/25 20:02:00
    Jerry Whidby
    I would say we should have done more for those countries also. I really don't think it was about oil. Most of our oil imports in the US come from Venezuela and Mexico. We get 13% from the Persian Gulf, and 8% of that comes from Saudi Arabia.Very little comes from that part of the world. I would give more credit to an argument that Bush wanted revenge on Hussein for trying to assassinate his father. I am curious as to the reason we cannot drill off our own shores, but we loaned Brazil $2 Billion dollars to drill for oil off their shores. You can ask questions like you have, but then I could say Clinton did not do anything about the massacre in Rwanda either, didn't kill Bin Laden when he had a few chances, and gave Kim Jong-il our tax money as a bribe to not develop nuclear weapons. Kim Jong-il probably used that money to create new weapons.
  • COMALite J Jerry W... 2012/12/27 03:19:24 (edited)
    COMALite J
    We do drill off our own shores, and while we do get a lot of oil from Mexico and Venezuela, the Middle East has the largest true petroleum (not kerogen aka “shale oil” or “oil sands”) fields in the world that have not yet entered post-Hubbert’s Peak terminal decline.

    As for why we attacked Iraq, I can show you hard proof of this: it was done as part and parcel of a scheme for world domination concocted by the group that was behind Bush, that was published in a 90-page document cover-dated September, 2000months before Bush was (s)elected President, and a full year before the September 11, 2001 terror attack that was the alleged reason for our “War On Terror” of which said Iraq invasion was allegedly part.

    The name of the group is the Project for a New American Century (note that sky-blue text that turns bright red when you hover over it in a SodaHead post is a clickable link — in this case, to their very own actual website!). The document is there, in a 90-page .PDF entitled “Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century.” Click “Publications / Reports” on the left to find it, but first click “Statement of Principles” near the top right to read the list of signatory members (note the date on that open letter) — recognize any names?
  • Anarchico Anthony 2012/06/06 02:02:13 (edited)
  • Jackal 2012/06/06 01:48:34
    No
    Jackal
    Oops, I meant Yes.
  • Aqua Surf Jackal 2012/06/06 02:33:00 (edited)
    Aqua Surf
    +1
    Then no rave for you, lol.
  • Jackal Aqua Surf 2012/06/06 05:38:51
    Jackal
    ;_;
  • dlsofsetx 2012/06/06 00:13:34
    No
    dlsofsetx
    +3
    His record was mixed,but he certainly was better than Obama.
  • Catch224u 2012/06/05 23:21:00
    No
    Catch224u
    +3
    Can you imagine obama after 9 11, I don't want to think about it.
  • Obama F... Catch224u 2012/06/06 00:42:19
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    If he was , would he blame for it?
  • Catch224u Obama F... 2012/06/07 00:51:26
    Catch224u
    +1
    Yea, he would probably say it was our fault.
  • Idiot r... Catch224u 2012/11/12 21:15:29
    Idiot repubs
    Bush blamed Clinton, Bush was and is a loser.
  • Catch224u Idiot r... 2012/11/13 00:23:12
    Catch224u
    Your name fits.
  • Idiot r... Catch224u 2012/11/13 11:57:25
    Idiot repubs
    idiot repubs, it is perfect for this site.
  • Idiot r... Catch224u 2012/06/06 02:43:51
    Idiot repubs
    +1
    No because only bush would allow that to happen.

    Obama has kept us safe, bush let us be attacked.
  • Catch224u Idiot r... 2012/06/07 00:55:03
    Catch224u
    +1
    Yea and the tooth fairy really does exist.
  • Obama F... Idiot r... 2012/06/07 01:26:57
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    Again thank bill, for me next time you see him
  • Idiot r... Obama F... 2012/06/07 03:08:55
    Idiot repubs
    +2
    When exactly has Obama had 3000+ killed on our soil like bush did?

    Bush has american blood on his hands.
  • Obama F... Idiot r... 2012/06/09 06:01:05
    Obama Failed Soda Head Chief Opi
    Again thank bill, for me next time you see him
  • John Galt jr or Ron/jon 2012/06/05 23:16:21
  • justfred 2012/06/05 23:14:23
    Yes
    justfred
    +6
    The worst...ever. Hands down. worst president ever
  • Catch224u justfred 2012/06/05 23:39:03
    Catch224u
    +2
    Hey Neo Fred,Where you been?
    No Fred, the worst President was Abraham Lincoln, he completely changed the dynamics of the Federal Gov. and did it illegally I might add. Obama would be a close second.
  • justfred Catch224u 2012/06/06 11:28:48
    justfred
    +1
    LMFAO....Lincoln is considered one of the best to everyone except traitorous, racists from the South who think it is their God given right to own other humans.
  • Catch224u justfred 2012/06/07 01:49:35
    Catch224u
    Where did you learn that? From your High School History book? "To The Victor Goes The Spoils" and the oppotunity to write history. You learnt in school, my ancestors lived it. The War Between The States was not about slavery, but Fed. Revenue from southern ports. The Fed. Gov. was choking the South to death with high taxes, while the few Northern ports enjoyed taxes at half the rate. Slavery only became an issue 18 months after the War started, as a weapon of war. (Hoping blacks would turn against women,children and old men. That's all that was left at home.)
    The North had as many slaves as the South did at the time of the war. Why else would Gen Grant wait till way after the war to turn his own slaves loose?Only 2% of the North was abolitionist at that time.
    Why did Lincoln?
    suspend habeas corpus
    imprison more than 13,000 political prisoners (Northern that is)
    Suppress free elections ( Maryland 1861 and imprison most of the States legislature)
    Create a State( West Virginia)
    Why did the Northern congress pass "The Johnson - Ccrittenden" resolution in 1861?
    Why did the 36th Cong. in the 2nd Sess. 1364 in 1861 pass "The Corwin Amendment" and send it to the States for ratification?
    Lincoln could have cared less about slaves, he said so in his first Inaugural Address.

    SUCH HYPOCRISY !
  • justfred Catch224u 2012/06/08 14:22:00
    justfred
    +1
    Nice spin. The truth is:

    The South walked out of Congress and seceded all on their own.
    The South attacked the United States FIRST at Ft. Sumpter
    The right to own and exploit the labors of human beings without compensation was the central 'economic' issue around secession
    If slavery was not an issue until 1862 then please explain the necessity of the Missouri compromise and the Kansas-Nebraska Act - 1820 and 1856, respectively

    Now, to address your revisionist history...

    Crittenden-Johnson was a political move meant to ensure the loyalty of some states which had not left the Union but where slavery was permitted (However, it had nothing to do with reality, only politics)
    The Corwin Amendment was enacted and sent to the states to try to woo the treasonous South back to the Union without war and bloodshed. If the North had no problem with slavery, as you say, then why was it not ratified?

    Yes, I learned history. Genuine history, not the revisionist crap you were taught by racist bubbas.
  • Catch224u justfred 2012/06/09 01:43:28
    Catch224u
    We did secede, I'm glade you admit it. That's something Lincoln never would do. His administration referred to it as a rebellion.
    We did fire the first shot, you are right, but was maneuvered into it by Lincoln. No one died at Fort Sumter. War started when 75,000 troops invaded the south.
    April 16, 1861, the Buffalo Daily Courier editorialized that " The affair at fort Sumter has been planned as a means by which the war feeling at the North should be intensified" I have many more references.
    Exploiting the labors of human beings seems to be the way of the world.
    Why else would the colony of Massachusetts in 1641 enact the first positive laws for the benifit of slave masters? And the North own the slave ships?
    Why The New York City draft riots?
    Why did( Illinois the Land of Lincoln) admend their state constitution concerning blacks.They were willing to free blacks, but don't let them vote

    About the western territory, ever hear of the 3/5 clause?

    The admendments and clauses were brought to the floors of Congress by Northerners, were they not?

    Look,
    it is way too simple to say " The war was about slavery" when there were other factors at work. It makes the North feel justified,and righteous, but that can't be all there is to it. Why would the South loose 25% of the male population for t...
    We did secede, I'm glade you admit it. That's something Lincoln never would do. His administration referred to it as a rebellion.
    We did fire the first shot, you are right, but was maneuvered into it by Lincoln. No one died at Fort Sumter. War started when 75,000 troops invaded the south.
    April 16, 1861, the Buffalo Daily Courier editorialized that " The affair at fort Sumter has been planned as a means by which the war feeling at the North should be intensified" I have many more references.
    Exploiting the labors of human beings seems to be the way of the world.
    Why else would the colony of Massachusetts in 1641 enact the first positive laws for the benifit of slave masters? And the North own the slave ships?
    Why The New York City draft riots?
    Why did( Illinois the Land of Lincoln) admend their state constitution concerning blacks.They were willing to free blacks, but don't let them vote

    About the western territory, ever hear of the 3/5 clause?

    The admendments and clauses were brought to the floors of Congress by Northerners, were they not?

    Look,
    it is way too simple to say " The war was about slavery" when there were other factors at work. It makes the North feel justified,and righteous, but that can't be all there is to it. Why would the South loose 25% of the male population for the 5% slave owners? Doesn't make sense.
    There is still a righteous attitude in the minds of most Northerers toward the South. I read it in your words. Racist and Bubba.
    (more)
  • justfred Catch224u 2012/06/11 20:17:28
    justfred
    +1
    Secession and rebellion are synonymous.

    The war started when the South fired on Ft. Sumter. It does not matter how many lives were lost, it was an attack against the United States of America and was treason.

    The war was about treason. What prompted the war was people wanting to retain the right to own others.
  • Catch224u justfred 2012/06/12 00:55:08
    Catch224u
    If Secession was wrong, then why was William Rawle's book " A View of the Constitution of the United States of America"1825. THE text book used to teach Constitutional Law. At West Point?
    Many Generals graduated from West Point and were taught secession was indeed legal under the constitution.
  • justfred Catch224u 2012/06/12 16:39:37
    justfred
    +1
    Do you think that the military is a good place for an educated opinion on interpretation of the Constitution?

    Really?
  • Catch224u justfred 2012/06/13 23:36:28
    Catch224u
    Who but the Military? To uphold and enforce the constitution? This was West Point? Cream of the crop.
    Presidents, top rated Generals,and people that ran the country graduated from West Point.
    Even today a West point graduate is held in high esteem.
    It's not just a military thing.
  • Aqua Surf justfred 2012/06/06 02:33:56
    Aqua Surf
    Gawd, where have you been the last 4 years!
  • justfred Aqua Surf 2012/06/06 11:29:24
    justfred
    +1
    Right here. Facts are facts.

    Bush was the first President since Hoover to actually lose jobs while in office.
  • Idiot r... justfred 2012/06/09 14:18:29
  • Catch224u justfred 2012/06/13 23:48:27
    Catch224u
    Was Bush in office when many of the saw mills shut down in Oregon and Washington, back in the mid 80's? Spotted Owl and all that crap?
    I'm curious, what do you think about the timber business? Since you live in Oregon.
  • justfred Catch224u 2012/06/22 18:35:18
    justfred
    +1
    No, Bush was not...but Reagan is the one who killed the timber industry, not the spotted owl.

    Before Reagan took office it was against the law to export raw timber instead of finished lumber. He changed that and killed the timber industry in the NW.
  • Catch224u justfred 2012/06/26 00:42:36
    Catch224u
    The spotted owl took a lot of Gov. owned timber off the market, Canada flooded us with lumber( Canadian Gov. subsidized that is, we weren't playing in a fare market)
    The west coast shutting down did take some pressure off the southern timber business, less competition.
    I've been in the timber business since 1978 and without a doubt the worst economic times were when Jimmy Carter was President and now with Obama.
  • justfred Catch224u 2012/06/26 20:38:01
    justfred
    +1
    The spotted owl was not added to the endangered species list until June 26, 1990 - ten years after Carter left office. Nice try though.

    Please note the chart below, then back up, regroup and try again. It was Reagan allowing the sale of raw timber which destroyed the wood products industry.
    Wood products

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