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Was Fast and Furious About Guns and Drugs or Gun Control? -- May 12, 2012 by Giacomo

"Abe" 2012/05/13 16:14:47
Ever since Operation Fast and Furious was exposed as a failed government program, most Americans believe it was designed around the Mexican drug cartel. Supposedly, the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allowed guns to walk across the US-Mexico border so they could follow them to the key leaders of the drug cartels.

Once the gunwalking mission turned into a failed scandal, some of those involved decided to change the goal of the mission and turn it into another form of government gun control.


Last December, CBS News was able to obtain email correspondence between ATF Field Operations Assistant Director Mark Chait and Agent Bill Newell who was part of Fast and Furious. The conversation centered around using the botched gun operation to promote a new federal gun control policy known as Demand Letter 3. This new policy requires all gun dealers in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas to report any purchases of multiple rifles or long guns. They were successful in getting Demand Letter 3 approved and as it stands now, just the four border states are being forced to comply with it.


A number of members of the House of Representatives believe that Demand Letter 3 is unconstitutional and violates the Second Amendment. So when they went over the Department of Justice appropriations bill, they included a rider that would block Demand Letter 3 policy from being enforced. The bill was passed by the House and will now be sent to the Senate, where who knows what will happen.







One thing we do know for sure about the DOJ appropriations bill and the rider attached to it is that President Obama has stated that if the rider is still part of the bill when it reaches his desk that he will veto the bill. This is no surprise since both Barack Obama and Eric Holder are very anti-gun and would like nothing better than to take all guns out of the hands of US citizens. Attorney General Eric Holder is so anti-gun and anti-Second Amendment that he has stated in the past that they need to find a way to brainwash Americans into hating guns and the desire to own one.


What started out to be a program to fight the Mexican drug cartels and which seriously failed at that goal, has been turned into a successful gun control program. The feds screwed it and then used their mistake to point the finger at US citizens and put more controls on us instead of themselves.


I think the rider that the House should have attached to the DOJ appropriations bill should have said that the only way the Department of Justice gets any money would be to get rid of Eric Holder and his enclave. Then replace them with men and women who place the US Constitution over Barack Obama and will defend the Constitution and the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

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  • Ryan 2012/05/14 16:34:47
    Ryan
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    "Supposedly, the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allowed guns to walk across the US-Mexico border so they could follow them to the key leaders of the drug cartels."

    Slight flaw in this plan, was they didn't have any agents in Mexico that could track the guns.

    They didn't tell the Agents stationed in Mexico about the operation, and they didn't tell the Mexican Authorities either.

    So if you accept the story they were trying to locate key leaders, you have to believe they would be able to ID key Cartel Leaders based only on the locations those guns were used and the people murdered with them.

    Because that is the only method they had to recover the guns once they crossed the border.

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  • 4570GOVT 2012/06/03 14:45:51 (edited)
    4570GOVT
    +1
    It Was " ALL ABOUT GUN CONTROL " !



    Obama: We’re working on gun control “under the radar”


    The UN final timeline to be established this year.

    Hillary Clinton and Obama have been working on this for years.







    Arms Trade Treaty

    At the end of 2009 the General Assembly decided to convene a Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty in 2012 "to elaborate a legally binding instrument on the highest possible common international standards for the transfer of conventional arms".

    Hillary Clinton and Obama have been working on this for years.
  • "Abe" 4570GOVT 2012/06/03 20:45:20 (edited)
    "Abe"
    +1
    Oh, yes sir. You can bet on that. "Billary" is the most dangerous woman in "politics" today. I've said that since DAY 1~~!!

    (4570 - great caliber. Wish I had one -lol)
  • 4570GOVT "Abe" 2012/06/04 03:17:15
    4570GOVT
    +1
    I've got a couple ( 45-70's ) , 1 old , 1 new ................... Hillary " IS " a threat to the United States . You Got It !
  • 4570GOVT 2012/05/19 06:08:40 (edited)
    4570GOVT
    +2
    Fast and Furious was about GUN CONTROL by the most rabidly anti-gun administration in the history of America . A while back , a press conference was called " on the border " and with cameras rolling we were told that all the guns confiscated from Mexican Drug Cartels were " Bought Legally In The U.S.A. " .................... IT WAS A LIE !



    Now , Fast Forward a year or so . A " plot by the Obama administration & the Justice Dept. was hatched " . They were going to USE the B.A.T.F. as a way of putting guns into the hands of the cartels ........ " in order to Create A Crisis , A GUN CRISIS " . This would give the Obama administration the " excuse " they needed to Crack Down On Guns !



    Everybody knows the rest " The D.O.J. under Eric Holder ordered the sale of 2500 Guns , Grenades , Machine Guns , Etc. to Drug Cartels . A Federal Agent Was Killed With One Of These Guns , etc. etc. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Holder should be an accessory to murder . He is BLOCKING CONGRESS who is looking into his illegal activity , He is in Contempt of Congress , Etc.
  • "Abe" 4570GOVT 2012/05/20 20:24:01
    "Abe"
    +1
    Man, I agree with you TOTALLY. Holder belongs in "jail" for "contempt of Congress" - at the very least. If the real truth be known - probably him and other "higher up" belong there for a couple of decades, at least. IMHO~~!!
  • Ryan 2012/05/14 16:34:47
    Ryan
    +3
    "Supposedly, the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allowed guns to walk across the US-Mexico border so they could follow them to the key leaders of the drug cartels."

    Slight flaw in this plan, was they didn't have any agents in Mexico that could track the guns.

    They didn't tell the Agents stationed in Mexico about the operation, and they didn't tell the Mexican Authorities either.

    So if you accept the story they were trying to locate key leaders, you have to believe they would be able to ID key Cartel Leaders based only on the locations those guns were used and the people murdered with them.

    Because that is the only method they had to recover the guns once they crossed the border.
  • "Abe" Ryan 2012/05/16 23:53:52
    "Abe"
    +2
    Yeah, that's true but that ain't "the story"~!! Gun control for all US citizens~~!
  • 4570GOVT "Abe" 2012/05/19 06:11:20
    4570GOVT
    +2
    " THAT " was their goal !
  • "Abe" 4570GOVT 2012/05/20 20:24:23
    "Abe"
    +1
    Yup~~!!
  • Ryan "Abe" 2012/05/21 19:05:49
    Ryan
    +1
    There was also the issue that even their own studies were saying the 80% of guns come from US was complete crap.

    Every US gun they got into Mexico helped boost their numbers.
  • "Abe" Ryan 2012/05/22 02:37:41
    "Abe"
    Most of the guns don't come from the USA~~! Except the ones we gave to the Mexican military who then joined the drug cartels~!!
  • Ryan "Abe" 2012/05/22 16:39:55
    Ryan
    +1
    Exactly, well sort of.

    There are several US made weapons from the 1960s that have "Fallen Out" of Central and South American Military warehouses, and been "found" by cartels.

    Those are all included in the trace data too.
  • Mr. T 2012/05/13 16:48:46
    Mr. T
    +3
    Was always about GUN CONTROL. The same thing ALL dictators need to remain in power.
  • "Abe" Mr. T 2012/05/13 20:11:01
    "Abe"
    +3
    Yes sir~~!!
  • "Abe" Mr. T 2012/06/03 20:48:35
    "Abe"
    +1
    Ours is spelled a l'il different - "d!ck-tater" - LOL~~!!

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