Was Adolf Hitler Right-wing or Left-wing?

by Freedomwatcher ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ Posted 2009/10/30 15:13:46

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Karl the heavy equipment guy 2009/10/30 15:36:18

Left-Wing

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His party affiliation was with the National Socialist German workers Party. During his reign as Reich Chancellor and as Furher he set into motion many programs that centralized government,redistributed wealth,nationalized banks and industry,regulated pay,controlled media,controlled firearms,youth indoctrination programs and had cabinet members who were concidered "radicals" by many. Sound familiar? Definitely left wing!

And he rallied the masses!
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Blackwi... to Sir Bud 2012/12/09 20:49:33

TRUE Communism has never manifested in the western world. (Unless you count East Germany and Poland. But they became communist because they were counquered.)

Communism is a non western version of Socialism.
Try reading another book

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Sir Bud to Blackwi... 2012/12/09 20:46:13

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And coming back to the present which is more important-for example;

"...10/18/2012...

Growing Tensions Far-Right Protest Targets Roma in Hungary

Bearing banners and burning torches, more than 1,000 supporters of the far-right opposition Jobbik party rallied at housing projects in the northeastern city of Miskolc where many Roma live. The radical nationalist party blames the Roma community for a number of Hungary's social problems, including crime and a lack of public security.

Although the nationalist party had called for the protest, uniformed members of the banned paramilitary group Magyar Gárda, or the Hungarian Guard Movement, were also present among the protesters, who reportedly shouted anti-Roma slurs. ..".
http://www.spiegel.de/interna...

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Sir Bud to Kookiel... 2012/12/09 20:18:26

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Yes,Fascism is corporate control of the government(Nationalism),elitism and one supreme leader authoritarianism over one Party.

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Sir Bud to Blackwi... 2012/12/09 19:07:40

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"Fascism is Mussolini and italy. Mussolini is/was a Socialist.". Not that it matters to me,but maybe you should make your own mind up before making a fool of yourself.Extreme Conservatism is extreme right wing and not Communism,but as long as you can hide your true identity behind an anonymous virtual profile your real integrity is secure of course.If you have not studied or have read few books and done little research simply use the Google search function to determine the radicalism and diversity of Conservative far right wing dictators.Perhaps then you may realize more about your own personal social and anti social alignment situation.

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Blackwi... to Sir Bud 2012/12/09 20:02:57

Maybe you should try reading a book.

Its ALL there. The ONLY reason Fascism and National Socialism are considered "Right-Wing" is because they were only right-wing in the sense that they were to the right of Stalin. Before 1941 The Nazis and Fascists were VERY good friends with Stalin.

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Sir Bud to Blackwi... 2012/12/09 21:47:19 (edited)

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LMAO;I thought so.You must be one of the leftovers got stuck.OK,not going to waste my time with that junk again.So funny tho....Being "liberal is being a Fascist" written by Right Wing Zionist Mr Jerry GOLD BERG.How ironic!!. But for sure he thanks you for buying a copy!. Like I implied,you are the fool to attempt to make madmen into Intellectual geniuses so as to suit your own mindset.Have fun and meeting your stance at your level..enjoy..

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james.r... to Blackwi... 2013/05/22 08:28:54

No, they were good friends of Franco, Horthy etc. and their fellow rightwing anti communist dictators.

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justfred to Blackwi... 2012/12/08 11:29:30

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Names, especially political names, mean little or nothing. Case in point, is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea) actually Democratic? Do the people really have a say? Same for the former German Democratic Republic (East Germany).

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Blackwi... to justfred 2012/12/08 15:07:31

That's my point. The Nazis NEVER called themselves Nazis. They called themselves National Socialists. "We will fight and die for Germany and National Socialism" is some of the language or rhetoric you would here from an ACTUAL Nazi. If a company was owned and approved of by the state it would survive. If it wasn't approved it would be destroyed.

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ppk007@... to Blackwi... 2012/12/09 22:52:49

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The Nazi Party was formed in the early 1920s - and yes, it initially had left leaning, however, in 1934 Hitler purged (murdered) most, if not all, of the socialist leaders within the party. (Operation Hummingbird)

In 1933, Hitler blamed the burning (Arson) of the Reichstag (would be equal to our US Capitol) on the communists.... Hitler cemented his power base on that incident.....and within a year he would purge the party of any socialist elements (Operation Hummingbird - AKA - Night of the Long Knives)

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Kyra 2012/12/08 03:44:22 (edited)

Right-Wing

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Kinda like Obama who plays both sides.

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NYYankees 2012/12/08 03:41:21

neither

its kinda easy to pin hitler on the left-right spectrum, but in reality he was neither. he was just a fascist, a tyrant, a nazi and a freak. he was a socialist in name but he did alot of things that a real socialist would oppose. nazis hated communists as well. hitler welcomed ideas from the far left and right right. all in all, he welcomed any idea which was for the best for him and whatever got him absolute power.

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DizziNY 2012/12/07 00:50:06

Left-Wing

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"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler

(Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)

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justfred to DizziNY 2012/12/08 11:34:09

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Which is how he got elected. However, after taking office he changed, radically, actually killing off the real socialist wing of his party on the Night of Long Knives.

Look it up.

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james.r... to DizziNY 2013/05/22 08:35:27

What Hitler really said:

"The capitalists have worked their. way to the top through their capacity, and on the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead. Now you want an incapable Government Council or Workers' Council, which has no notion of anything, to have a say: no leader in economic life would tolerate it."

-Adolf Hitler: A Biographical Companion - Page 245David Nicholls - 2000

The capitalists,” Hitler said, “have worked their way to the top through their capacity, and as the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead” (Bullock 1991, p. 190).

"The capitalists have worked their way to the top through their capacity, and on the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead."

The appeal of fascism: a study of intellectuals and fascism, 1919-1945 - Page 162
books.google.com.au/books?id=...
Alastair Hamilton - 1973

"The capitalists "have worked their way to the top through their capacity, and on the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead. Now you want an incapable Government Council or Works Council hich has no notion of anything, to have a say: no leader in economic life would to...

What Hitler really said:

"The capitalists have worked their. way to the top through their capacity, and on the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead. Now you want an incapable Government Council or Workers' Council, which has no notion of anything, to have a say: no leader in economic life would tolerate it."

-Adolf Hitler: A Biographical Companion - Page 245David Nicholls - 2000

The capitalists,” Hitler said, “have worked their way to the top through their capacity, and as the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead” (Bullock 1991, p. 190).

"The capitalists have worked their way to the top through their capacity, and on the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead."

The appeal of fascism: a study of intellectuals and fascism, 1919-1945 - Page 162
books.google.com.au/books?id=...
Alastair Hamilton - 1973

"The capitalists "have worked their way to the top through their capacity, and on the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead. Now you want an incapable Government Council or Works Council hich has no notion of anything, to have a say: no leader in economic life would tolerate it."

-The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939: An English ... - Volume 1, Part 1 - Page 111 Adolf Hitler, Norman Hepburn Baynes - 1942
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dominic garcia 2012/02/18 17:36:55

neither

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He was one of the devil's sons thinking God was with him. That is how cocaine heads think, they see themselves as saviors of the world. He was a very mentally ill person.

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MrsJJS 2012/02/18 07:31:58

neither

Well first and foremost…he was a Wing Nut…lol

Actually he was a bit of both...However he leaned more heavily towards the left in his beliefs, which were predominately Socialist. The activities of an individual couldn’t conflict with the overall interest and had to keep within the agenda of the community and be for everyone’s benefit, not just their own. Everyone is equal…of course except for those in positions of power who were always going to be MORE equal. He wanted State run medical care, State run compulsory old age pensions, to nationalize the media and to nationalize banks and corporations so that everyone got their “fair share.” If he was to carry out his plan he could not afford to have filthy rich individuals who had the money and the power to contest him or his agenda in the public arena. Once you get those sorts of people out of the way, you’re pretty much free to do as you please….which he did, with a devastating outcome for millions.

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LAAD Gunner - USMC 2012/02/18 04:57:42 (edited)

neither

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Hitler was "whatever gets the damn job done" wing. It was all about promoting nationalism and getting the people all in a frenzy and putting the blinders over their eyes.

Kinda like Obama, only his isn't causing a frenzy by nationalism, he's riling up 3 different things: partisan, class, and race hate. That's the Obama formula. Well...more than just Obama really, it's the U.S. government formula for stirring up the sheeple so we're not paying attention to what's actually happening.

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dominic... to LAAD Gu... 2012/02/18 17:43:52

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Treyman Obama and Hitler have one thing in common for sure, they were both cocaine users. I say were, because we really do not know for sure that Obama stopped using it. Most drug users have irrational behavior and Obama certainly falls into that category.

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Classical Liberal 2012/02/17 02:33:48

neither

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There's no "wings" in reality: it's up towards freedom and prosperity or down towards totalitarianism and poverty.

He was down.

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Freedom... to Classic... 2012/02/17 14:15:13

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Yep but it is neat to see people bicker over such a vague point.

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Sheepdog 2012/02/16 23:17:48

neither

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A wing nut.

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Freedom... to Sheepdog 2012/02/17 14:15:24

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LOL Agreed

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Katfish 2012/02/16 16:21:35

Right-Wing

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I wish we would evolve beyond trying to label everything on a flat scale. It is not possible to divide all political ideology as "left or "right".
Hitler is no exception:
His authoritarian views are certainly to the right and anti immigration.
He would be considered left on expansion of State education, child labor laws, the general nationalization of buisiness.

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Freedom... to Katfish 2012/02/17 14:16:18

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I agree.. see my resonse to Classical Liberal above.

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dan~lady kisser 2011/10/12 02:14:25

Right-Wing

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i think

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Douglas Wakeman 2011/03/21 23:21:40

Left-Wing

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Has anyone defined Left and Right? It seems that most of the argument is from a failure to define terms. My understanding is that the Left today leans toward a more powerful state, the elimination of private property, and group rights. The Right leans toward limited government, protection of private property and individual liberty. By these definitions, Nazism is Leftist.

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XxteashiXx to Douglas... 2011/07/26 11:58:13

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its the other way, actually

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Katherine to Douglas... 2012/12/08 03:52:53

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lianaent 2011/03/21 21:41:34

Left-Wing

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EVERYTHING socialist is Left Wing. Some say he was Right Wing because Stalin was Left Wing, and they were opposites. Not so. Stalin started the propaganda that Hitler was Right Wing to separate himself from the Nazis. Both were Left Wing and therefore evil. One calling the other Left Wing or Right Wing is like Godzilla calling Mothra a monster. They were both monsters, and they were both Left Wing. Like all monsters they want to rule the world alone and can't abide another monster in competition.

There is not a single iota of similarity between Nazis and Right Wing philosophy which espouses smaller, less intervening government, lower taxes, freedom and liberty, constitutionality, representative republic, rule of law, justice, pursuit of happiness, capitalism (a term invented by the Leftist commies to create a phony hate group, Americans, a tactic at least as old as Marx), etc. But every simularity with the Left in general - large overpowering government intrusive to every aspect of your life, led by palace-dwelling Marxists (ala Al Gore, John Kerry, John Edwards and the rest of the ultra-rich Democrats) at the expense of the citizenry who are forced to live like cattle at the mercy of the whims of the state.

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Kookiel... to lianaent 2012/12/08 04:34:23
John Bryans Fontaine 2010/05/22 12:31:05

Right-Wing

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Hitler and the nazis were extreme right wingers because they believed everything about the left was the creation of the Jews.

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John Br... to John Br... 2010/05/22 12:37:05

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Hitler only used the term socialism because he thought that it was a right-wing ideology and also was equal to aryan/german nationalism:

'NATIONAL' AND 'SOCIAL' ARE TWO IDENTICAL CONCEPTIONS. It was only the Jew who succeeded, through falsifying the social idea and turning it into Marxism, not only in divorcing the social idea from the national, but in actually representing them as utterly contradictory. That aim he has in fact achieved. At the founding of this Movement we formed the decision that we would give expression to this idea of ours of the identity of the two conceptions: despite all warnings, on the basis of what we had come to believe, on the basis of the sincerity of our will, we christened it ''National Socialist.'

- speech, Munich, April 1922

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☆astac☆ to John Br... 2012/12/08 03:47:20

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Liar

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☆astac☆ to John Br... 2012/12/08 03:47:12

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Left wingers

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Katherine to John Br... 2012/12/08 03:58:30

???

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MaxWellbrock-Talley 2010/05/17 05:12:06

Right-Wing

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Whether or not Hitler was part of a Party that called itself "Socialist," (remember, it was also "National" showing some Right-wing in the name, as Nationalism is Right as well) he was not Left enough to not be considered a Far-Rightist. Boil down the Nazi political/economic shell and you get, approximately, Fascism, a system of the radical Right. However, and this is the interesting part, the Nazi Party used Left and Right tactics through the '20s and early '30s before gaining full political power. That's when they showed their true colors and demonstrated how Right they were.

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R. Bone 2010/04/10 16:46:10

Right-Wing

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Hitler was extreme right wing. Mussolini and Stalin were extreme left wing. Either way, many, many, many people were killed.

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henry 2010/01/19 19:03:55

Right-Wing

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For those who say the Nazis were left because of the party name, would you call the People's Republic of China a republic? Would you call absolute rulers like Henry VIII and Bloody Mary leftists. The Nazis were authoritarian right, as opposed to libertarian right. They nationalized only a few industries, and they did not move to redistribute wealth. The crux of their movement was race/nation, not leftist socislism. The Nazi Party was named National Socialist in early 20s to draw lower middle class support, and it had a left wing headed by Ernst Rohm and the Strasser brothers, but Hitler had them killed in 1934 to please the conservative army brass. The Nazis outlawed unions and set up a labor front which favored management, and got their financial support from wealthy industrialists. Their extreme nationalism/fanatical patriotism/chauvanism placed them on the right. Leftist are internationalist and non-racist...."Workers of the world, unite." Remember, the first people sent to Dachau were communists and social democrats, who were true socialist. But, they shared many of the methods used by the communists...at the end of the day, they are all totalitarian.

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Village... to henry 2010/02/03 04:48:38

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Henry, you're precisely right. People focus on the name "National Socialist"--cling to it, really--in a desperate attempt to avoid guilt by association, as fellow rightists. However, this is ridiculous, because, suppose they admitted that Hitler was a rightist by every definition except the new one which they recently dreamed up. Would that make today's rightists Hitlerites? Not in the slightest, unless they also subscribe to Hitler's mass murder, or concentration camps for illegal immigrants, like Hitler did. Or unless they believe in guilt by association, by which being a "leftist" means that Obama can be tarred as being like the mass-murdering Stalin. I suspect it's their desire to make this illogical leap to tarring Obama with being like Stalin, that makes them so frantic to call him Hitlerian as well.

The NAME National Socialist means nothing, nor does their nationalization of a few industries (which EVERY capitalist country does, during war or the runup to war). As you mention, the party's left wing was DESTROYED by Hitler, and he coddled the big industrialists who supported him. Marx would have thought Hitler a prime example of the reactionary right-wing AGAINST socialism. And so did Germans, left and right-wing both, of Hitler's day as well as today.

"Right-wing...

Henry, you're precisely right. People focus on the name "National Socialist"--cling to it, really--in a desperate attempt to avoid guilt by association, as fellow rightists. However, this is ridiculous, because, suppose they admitted that Hitler was a rightist by every definition except the new one which they recently dreamed up. Would that make today's rightists Hitlerites? Not in the slightest, unless they also subscribe to Hitler's mass murder, or concentration camps for illegal immigrants, like Hitler did. Or unless they believe in guilt by association, by which being a "leftist" means that Obama can be tarred as being like the mass-murdering Stalin. I suspect it's their desire to make this illogical leap to tarring Obama with being like Stalin, that makes them so frantic to call him Hitlerian as well.

The NAME National Socialist means nothing, nor does their nationalization of a few industries (which EVERY capitalist country does, during war or the runup to war). As you mention, the party's left wing was DESTROYED by Hitler, and he coddled the big industrialists who supported him. Marx would have thought Hitler a prime example of the reactionary right-wing AGAINST socialism. And so did Germans, left and right-wing both, of Hitler's day as well as today.

"Right-wing" means anti-internationalist, chauvinist, and above all, supportive of the Big Bourgeois/Big Business sector, which kept profiting at the expense of the left's working class and trade unions.
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