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Freedomwatcher 2009/10/30 15:13:46
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  • Karl the heavy equipment guy 2009/10/30 15:36:18
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    Karl the heavy equipment guy
    +35
    His party affiliation was with the National Socialist German workers Party. During his reign as Reich Chancellor and as Furher he set into motion many programs that centralized government,redistributed wealth,nationalized banks and industry,regulated pay,controlled media,controlled firearms,youth indoctrination programs and had cabinet members who were concidered "radicals" by many. Sound familiar? Definitely left wing! firearmsyouth indoctrination programs cabinet members concidered radicals sound familiar wing

    And he rallied the masses!

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  • Kookiel... Blackwi... 2012/12/08 04:32:40
  • Blackwi... Kookiel... 2012/12/08 06:49:49
    BlackwinterG36C
    Fascism and National Socialism are different. Fascism is Mussolini and italy. Mussolini is/was a Socialist.
  • Thom Payne Blackwi... 2012/12/08 11:32:42
    Thom Payne
    +6
    Mussolini was a corporatist.

    There is a myth that the first thing Hitler did when taking office was outlaw private gun ownership - untrue - the German populace was already disarmed as part of the treaty of Versailles. During his campaign, as a matter of fact, Hitler promised reinstituting private gun ownership...he lied.

    What Hitler's first act as Chancellor was actually outlawing labor unions.

    Doesn't sound very socialist to me.
  • Sissy Thom Payne 2012/12/08 14:57:06
    Sissy
    +3
    LOL. Ya think?
  • Blackwi... Thom Payne 2012/12/08 15:03:25
    BlackwinterG36C
    Mussolini was a socialist. But he felt socialism/communism didn't work. So he re-wrote the communist manifesto. Benito Mussolini wrote the Fascist manifesto. Mussolini is the Lenin AND Karl Marx of Fascism. National Socialism is a indirect descendant of Fascism. Mussolini only saw the Nazis as a racist copy of true fascism. But he admired Hitler personally and professionally.
  • Sir Bud. Blackwi... 2012/12/09 20:07:23 (edited)
    Sir Bud.
    +1
    As an adult Mussolini was always a radical far right conservative and founded the National Fascist Party after the first world war when he came to terms with and realized his mindset and his mistake of his previous short lived membership of the Italian PSI.General Franco of Spain in comparison was always clear about himself and his extreme right wing Conservative ideology as was general Pinochet of Chile just to name a few examples.The less known British radical right wing Conservative political party known as the British Union of Fascists("Blackshirts") led by another madman called Sir Oswald Mosley-the 6th Baronet, of Ancoats,did not disband but were legally banned in 1940..not surprisingly.Due to the second world war he and his gang lost of course much popularity,but he popped up now and again when racial tensions flared in England.He is one evidential example of the bond between Radical Right Wing doctrine and ideology,the Monarchy and Church as opposed to far left Socialism.

    General Francessco Franco  King
    General  Franco and  King of Spain
  • Blackwi... Sir Bud. 2012/12/09 20:31:12
    BlackwinterG36C
    Fascism and National Socialism are very different.

    Fascism- Is a reformed WESTERNIZED version of Communism. Mussolini took communism and modernized it.

    National Socialism- Is the racist version of Fascism. Where the state and nationalism is the center of the world.

    Communism-is a Totalitarian version of Socialism.
  • Sir Bud. Blackwi... 2012/12/09 21:11:02
    Sir Bud.
    +1
    Lets just get one thing straight,if you think Adolf and Mussolini sat down and spent as much thought and time as you do to work out what they are and want-more fool you and anyone who does.I know the initial theories of Political extremism and your one sentence "Fascism is the Westernized version of Communism"means so long Pal and enjoy your life.
    .
  • Sir Bud. Thom Payne 2012/12/09 19:20:31 (edited)
    Sir Bud.
    +2
    These guys see one word with two syllables and take the one out to suit their needs(Like NATIONAL-Socialism). They will probably think a Crayfish is a fish because the common denominator is water!.LMAO.

    Just out of interest-you probably know that the German word for"National Socialism"is ONE word("Nationalsozialismus"),....
    which often if known-causes slight confusion amongst certain segments of the Conservative far right.lol.
  • Kookiel... Blackwi... 2012/12/08 17:49:48
  • Blackwi... Kookiel... 2012/12/08 22:01:32
    BlackwinterG36C
    Fascism is the state controlling commerce and every facet of life. Its called Totalitarianism. Fascism, National Socialism, Communism ALL FALL UNDER Totalitarianism.
  • Kookiel... Blackwi... 2012/12/08 22:06:12
  • Sir Bud. Blackwi... 2012/12/09 20:38:31 (edited)
    Sir Bud.
    +1
    In the past-whether a Communist state or Fascist state-both exercised tyranny and Totalitarianism and neither capitalism.They were not two teams competing in the same league,but instead two different ball games while both advocated for the extermination of the other sport.After the second world war Conservative Nationalist extremists restricted their political Tyranny to their own countries unlike Russia and China of course.
    General Pinichet monarchy
    General Pinichet
  • Blackwi... Sir Bud. 2012/12/09 20:49:33
    BlackwinterG36C
    TRUE Communism has never manifested in the western world. (Unless you count East Germany and Poland. But they became communist because they were counquered.)

    Communism is a non western version of Socialism.
    Try reading another book
    Clash of Cizilizations
  • Sir Bud. Blackwi... 2012/12/09 20:46:13
    Sir Bud.
    +1
    And coming back to the present which is more important-for example;

    "...10/18/2012...

    Growing Tensions Far-Right Protest Targets Roma in Hungary

    Bearing banners and burning torches, more than 1,000 supporters of the far-right opposition Jobbik party rallied at housing projects in the northeastern city of Miskolc where many Roma live. The radical nationalist party blames the Roma community for a number of Hungary's social problems, including crime and a lack of public security.

    Although the nationalist party had called for the protest, uniformed members of the banned paramilitary group Magyar Gárda, or the Hungarian Guard Movement, were also present among the protesters, who reportedly shouted anti-Roma slurs. ..".
    http://www.spiegel.de/interna...
  • Sir Bud. Kookiel... 2012/12/09 20:18:26
    Sir Bud.
    +2
    Yes,Fascism is corporate control of the government(Nationalism),elitism and one supreme leader authoritarianism over one Party.
  • Sir Bud. Blackwi... 2012/12/09 19:07:40
    Sir Bud.
    +1
    "Fascism is Mussolini and italy. Mussolini is/was a Socialist.". Not that it matters to me,but maybe you should make your own mind up before making a fool of yourself.Extreme Conservatism is extreme right wing and not Communism,but as long as you can hide your true identity behind an anonymous virtual profile your real integrity is secure of course.If you have not studied or have read few books and done little research simply use the Google search function to determine the radicalism and diversity of Conservative far right wing dictators.Perhaps then you may realize more about your own personal social and anti social alignment situation.
  • Blackwi... Sir Bud. 2012/12/09 20:02:57
    BlackwinterG36C
    Maybe you should try reading a book.
    Liberal Fascism
    Its ALL there. The ONLY reason Fascism and National Socialism are considered "Right-Wing" is because they were only right-wing in the sense that they were to the right of Stalin. Before 1941 The Nazis and Fascists were VERY good friends with Stalin.
  • Sir Bud. Blackwi... 2012/12/09 21:47:19 (edited)
    Sir Bud.
    +1
    LMAO;I thought so.You must be one of the leftovers got stuck.OK,not going to waste my time with that junk again.So funny tho....Being "liberal is being a Fascist" written by Right Wing Zionist Mr Jerry GOLD BERG.How ironic!!. But for sure he thanks you for buying a copy!. Like I implied,you are the fool to attempt to make madmen into Intellectual geniuses so as to suit your own mindset.Have fun and meeting your stance at your level..enjoy..
  • james.r... Blackwi... 2013/05/22 08:28:54
    james.rufus.39
    No, they were good friends of Franco, Horthy etc. and their fellow rightwing anti communist dictators.
  • Thom Payne Blackwi... 2012/12/08 11:29:30
    Thom Payne
    +4
    Names, especially political names, mean little or nothing. Case in point, is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea) actually Democratic? Do the people really have a say? Same for the former German Democratic Republic (East Germany).
  • Blackwi... Thom Payne 2012/12/08 15:07:31
    BlackwinterG36C
    That's my point. The Nazis NEVER called themselves Nazis. They called themselves National Socialists. "We will fight and die for Germany and National Socialism" is some of the language or rhetoric you would here from an ACTUAL Nazi. If a company was owned and approved of by the state it would survive. If it wasn't approved it would be destroyed.
  • ppk007@... Blackwi... 2012/12/09 22:52:49
    ppk007@cfl.rr.com
    +1
    The Nazi Party was formed in the early 1920s - and yes, it initially had left leaning, however, in 1934 Hitler purged (murdered) most, if not all, of the socialist leaders within the party. (Operation Hummingbird)

    In 1933, Hitler blamed the burning (Arson) of the Reichstag (would be equal to our US Capitol) on the communists.... Hitler cemented his power base on that incident.....and within a year he would purge the party of any socialist elements (Operation Hummingbird - AKA - Night of the Long Knives)
  • Kyra 2012/12/08 03:44:22 (edited)
    Right-Wing
    Kyra
    +1
    Kinda like Obama who plays both sides.
  • The Aging Yankee Liberal Do... 2012/12/08 03:41:21
    neither
    The Aging Yankee Liberal Douche
    its kinda easy to pin hitler on the left-right spectrum, but in reality he was neither. he was just a fascist, a tyrant, a nazi and a freak. he was a socialist in name but he did alot of things that a real socialist would oppose. nazis hated communists as well. hitler welcomed ideas from the far left and right right. all in all, he welcomed any idea which was for the best for him and whatever got him absolute power.
  • DizziNY 2012/12/07 00:50:06
    Left-Wing
    DizziNY
    +3
    "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler

    (Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)
  • Thom Payne DizziNY 2012/12/08 11:34:09
    Thom Payne
    +4
    Which is how he got elected. However, after taking office he changed, radically, actually killing off the real socialist wing of his party on the Night of Long Knives.

    Look it up.
  • james.r... DizziNY 2013/05/22 08:35:27
    james.rufus.39
    What Hitler really said:

    "The capitalists have worked their. way to the top through their capacity, and on the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead. Now you want an incapable Government Council or Workers' Council, which has no notion of anything, to have a say: no leader in economic life would tolerate it."

    -Adolf Hitler: A Biographical Companion - Page 245David Nicholls - 2000

    The capitalists,” Hitler said, “have worked their way to the top through their capacity, and as the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead” (Bullock 1991, p. 190).

    "The capitalists have worked their way to the top through their capacity, and on the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead."


    The appeal of fascism: a study of intellectuals and fascism, 1919-1945 - Page 162
    books.google.com.au/books?id=...
    Alastair Hamilton - 1973

    "The capitalists "have worked their way to the top through their capacity, and on the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead. Now you want an incapable Government Council or Works Council hich has no notion of anything, to have a say: no leader in economic life would to...

    What Hitler really said:

    "The capitalists have worked their. way to the top through their capacity, and on the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead. Now you want an incapable Government Council or Workers' Council, which has no notion of anything, to have a say: no leader in economic life would tolerate it."

    -Adolf Hitler: A Biographical Companion - Page 245David Nicholls - 2000

    The capitalists,” Hitler said, “have worked their way to the top through their capacity, and as the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead” (Bullock 1991, p. 190).

    "The capitalists have worked their way to the top through their capacity, and on the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead."


    The appeal of fascism: a study of intellectuals and fascism, 1919-1945 - Page 162
    books.google.com.au/books?id=...
    Alastair Hamilton - 1973

    "The capitalists "have worked their way to the top through their capacity, and on the basis of this selection, which again only proves their higher race, they have a right to lead. Now you want an incapable Government Council or Works Council hich has no notion of anything, to have a say: no leader in economic life would tolerate it."

    -The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939: An English ... - Volume 1, Part 1 - Page 111 Adolf Hitler, Norman Hepburn Baynes - 1942
    (more)
  • dominic garcia 2012/02/18 17:36:55
    neither
    dominic garcia
    +1
    He was one of the devil's sons thinking God was with him. That is how cocaine heads think, they see themselves as saviors of the world. He was a very mentally ill person.
  • MrsJJS 2012/02/18 07:31:58
    neither
    MrsJJS
    Well first and foremost…he was a Wing Nut…lol

    Actually he was a bit of both...However he leaned more heavily towards the left in his beliefs, which were predominately Socialist. The activities of an individual couldn’t conflict with the overall interest and had to keep within the agenda of the community and be for everyone’s benefit, not just their own. Everyone is equal…of course except for those in positions of power who were always going to be MORE equal. He wanted State run medical care, State run compulsory old age pensions, to nationalize the media and to nationalize banks and corporations so that everyone got their “fair share.” If he was to carry out his plan he could not afford to have filthy rich individuals who had the money and the power to contest him or his agenda in the public arena. Once you get those sorts of people out of the way, you’re pretty much free to do as you please….which he did, with a devastating outcome for millions.
  • LAAD Gunner - USMC 2012/02/18 04:57:42 (edited)
    neither
    LAAD Gunner - USMC
    +2
    Hitler was "whatever gets the damn job done" wing. It was all about promoting nationalism and getting the people all in a frenzy and putting the blinders over their eyes.

    Kinda like Obama, only his isn't causing a frenzy by nationalism, he's riling up 3 different things: partisan, class, and race hate. That's the Obama formula. Well...more than just Obama really, it's the U.S. government formula for stirring up the sheeple so we're not paying attention to what's actually happening.
  • dominic... LAAD Gu... 2012/02/18 17:43:52
    dominic garcia
    +1
    Treyman Obama and Hitler have one thing in common for sure, they were both cocaine users. I say were, because we really do not know for sure that Obama stopped using it. Most drug users have irrational behavior and Obama certainly falls into that category.
  • Classical Liberal 2012/02/17 02:33:48
    neither
    Classical Liberal
    +3
    There's no "wings" in reality: it's up towards freedom and prosperity or down towards totalitarianism and poverty.

    He was down.
  • Freedom... Classic... 2012/02/17 14:15:13
    Freedomwatcher
    +1
    Yep but it is neat to see people bicker over such a vague point.
  • Sheepdog 2012/02/16 23:17:48
    neither
    Sheepdog
    +1
    A wing nut.
  • Freedom... Sheepdog 2012/02/17 14:15:24
    Freedomwatcher
    +1
    LOL Agreed
  • Katfish 2012/02/16 16:21:35
    Right-Wing
    Katfish
    +2
    I wish we would evolve beyond trying to label everything on a flat scale. It is not possible to divide all political ideology as "left or "right".
    Hitler is no exception:
    His authoritarian views are certainly to the right and anti immigration.
    He would be considered left on expansion of State education, child labor laws, the general nationalization of buisiness.
  • Freedom... Katfish 2012/02/17 14:16:18
    Freedomwatcher
    +1
    I agree.. see my resonse to Classical Liberal above.
  • dan~lady kisser 2011/10/12 02:14:25
    Right-Wing
    dan~lady kisser
    +1
    i think
  • Douglas Wakeman 2011/03/21 23:21:40
    Left-Wing
    Douglas Wakeman
    +2
    Has anyone defined Left and Right? It seems that most of the argument is from a failure to define terms. My understanding is that the Left today leans toward a more powerful state, the elimination of private property, and group rights. The Right leans toward limited government, protection of private property and individual liberty. By these definitions, Nazism is Leftist.

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