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Was Adolf Hitler Right-wing or Left-wing?

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  • Karl the heavy equipment guy 2009/10/30 15:36:18
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    Karl the heavy equipment guy
    +34
    His party affiliation was with the National Socialist German workers Party. During his reign as Reich Chancellor and as Furher he set into motion many programs that centralized government,redistributed wealth,nationalized banks and industry,regulated pay,controlled media,controlled firearms,youth indoctrination programs and had cabinet members who were concidered "radicals" by many. Sound familiar? Definitely left wing! firearmsyouth indoctrination programs cabinet members concidered radicals sound familiar wing

    And he rallied the masses!

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  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2013/07/21 00:36:10
    Left-Wing
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    LEFTWING. HISTORICAL FACT. ANTI-GUN. ANTI-CHRISTIAN/JEW. PRO LEFTWING NATIONAL SOCIALISM (WHERE THE PROGRESSIVE AGENDA CAME FROM). ANTI-CAPITALISM. STATE CONTROLLED EVERYTHING.

    LEFTWING EVOLUTIONIST IS HIS OWN WORDS.

    LEFTWING MURDERER.

    "National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things." (p 6 & 7)--Adolf Hitler
  • Torchma... Torchma... 2013/07/21 00:36:40
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Like obaaaama, he claimed Christianity to gain favor.
  • ppk007@cfl.rr.com 2012/12/09 22:58:50
    Right-Wing
    ppk007@cfl.rr.com
    +1
    After the 1934 purge - Operation Hummingbird - AKA Night of the Long Knives.
  • Chokmah 2012/12/09 01:57:10
    Left-Wing
    Chokmah
    +2
    Like Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky (Bronstein), and Marx... Hitler was far left. The Bolsheviks killed 66 million Christians in the Russian Holocaust and Hitler killed another few million in his holocaust. Those on the Left are known for their mass murder, enforced poverty and totalitarianism, such as Mao, Pol Pot, and Bela Kun (Kohn).
  • james.r... Chokmah 2013/05/22 08:20:47
    james.rufus.39
    Hitler was on the Far Right like his allies Mussolini, Horthy, Franco, Petain etc.

    They invaded the soviet union togeather in an attempt to destroy communsim...as far right as you could get.
  • Chokmah james.r... 2013/05/22 21:35:07
    Chokmah
    +1
    Hitler was so far right, he was left. The Soviet Union invaded Poland the same day that Hitler invaded Poland. Hitler and the Marxist/Leninist basterds in Russia were like two peas in a pod.

    Far Left and Far Right merge into one indistinguishable blob.
  • Car1u5~PWCM~JLA 2012/12/08 15:57:56
    Left-Wing
    Car1u5~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    The state controlled everything in nazi germany so i geuss he is as left as you can get.
  • james.r... Car1u5~... 2013/05/22 08:24:23
    james.rufus.39
    Industry was in private hands: capitalism!

    Hitler was on the Far Right!
  • TimothyBrianFoley 2012/12/08 15:20:21
    Right-Wing
    TimothyBrianFoley
    +2
    the third reich was and always is far right
  • Chokmah Timothy... 2012/12/09 05:18:34
    Chokmah
    Those who know of the Leftist themes in the election campaigns of both Hitler and Mussolini often say that neither was a real Leftist because they were also vehement nationalists. The thought seems to be that nationalism can only be Rightist. But that shows no knowledge of Leftist history generally.

    From the days of Marx onward, there were innumerable "splits" in the extreme Leftist movement but two of the most significant occurred around the time of the Bolshevik revolution --- when in Russia the Bolsheviks themselves split into Leninists and Trotskyites and when in Italy Mussolini left Italy's major Marxist party to found the "Fascists". So from its earliest days Leftism had a big split over the issue of nationalism. It split between the Internationalists (e.g. Trotskyists) and the nationalists (e.g. Fascists) with Lenin having a foot in both camps. So any idea that a nationalist cannot be a Leftist is pure fiction.

    And, in fact, the very title of Lenin's famous essay, "Left-wing Communism, an infantile disorder" shows that Lenin himself shared the judgement that he was a Right-wing sort of Marxist. Mussolini was somewhat further Right again, of course, but both were to the Right only WITHIN the overall far-Left camp of the day.
  • Cookielane 2012/12/08 15:01:04
    Right-Wing
    Cookielane
    +1
    He wanted to control people and erase those he didn't like. Left wingers don't even like the death penalty for murderers.
  • Sissy 2012/12/08 14:51:11
    Right-Wing
    Sissy
    +4
    Given his philosophies, no doubt about it.
  • hippycat 2012/12/08 14:44:08
    Right-Wing
    hippycat
    +6
    what's this obsession with Hitler suddenly? I find it disturbing.....
  • Sissy hippycat 2012/12/08 14:53:43
    Sissy
    +4
    Probably born out of the passionate dislike of the President. But then of course esides feeling he's "Hitleresque", they've also thrown around Muslim terrorist, fascist, unAmerican, unPatriotic, illigitimate and all those other warm and fuzzy adjectives that we see whenever he's referred to on here.
  • hippycat Sissy 2012/12/08 15:02:15
    hippycat
    +3
    likening him to Hitler is just sick. these guys must be afraid - otherwise they wouldn't stumble from one position they can't defend to the next.
  • Sissy hippycat 2012/12/08 15:05:14
    Sissy
    +4
    That's why they do it. They have nothing else.
  • Rob Clary 2012/12/08 14:42:35 (edited)
    Right-Wing
    Rob Clary
    +6
    I can clearly see that when nations go too far right or left, they digress into totalitarianism.
    As for Hitler, it cuts both ways, but he was right wing run amok with the sympathy of American business.
    If you want a good picture of this, google famous Americans and corporations in the mid-20th century who were in bed with the Nazi's of Germany - William Randolph Hearst, Joseph Kennedy (JFK's father), Charles Lindbergh, John Rockefeller, Andrew Mellon (head of Alcoa, banker, and Secretary of Treasury), DuPont, General Motors, Standard Oil (now Exxon), Ford, ITT, Allen Dulles (later head of the CIA), Prescott Bush, National City Bank, and General Electric.
  • Sissy Rob Clary 2012/12/08 14:55:26
  • Thom Payne 2012/12/08 11:37:05
    Right-Wing
    Thom Payne
    +6
    Hitler outlawed labor unions and provided slave labor to corporations to increase their profit margins. He was class conscious, wealth conscious, nationalistic, militaristic, and railed against Marxism and any kind of collective economic model. He used Christianity and the Church for his political designs.

    Definitely a right winger.
  • Sissy Thom Payne 2012/12/08 14:50:25
  • Rob Clary Thom Payne 2012/12/08 15:09:48
    Rob Clary
    +3
    BINGO!
    It's no shocker why so many in America supported Hitler.
    In 1938 Henry Ford received the Grand Cross of the Order of the German Eagle as a birthday present from Adolph Hitler. He was given the medal in his office in Michigan by two officials from the Third Reich, as seen below:
    german eagle birthday adolph hitler medal office michigan officials reich
    Ford never returned this medal, even after WWII.
  • Chokmah Thom Payne 2012/12/09 01:59:48
    Chokmah
    Hitler murdered millions of Christians and outlawed public displays of Christianity. Hitler was forming the National Church which would put National SOCIALISM (the State) as the center of worship. Just like Karl Marx and Levi Bronstein (Leon Trotsky).
  • Thom Payne Chokmah 2012/12/09 04:16:11
  • Chokmah Thom Payne 2012/12/09 04:24:59
    Chokmah
    Care to stick to facts? Stay away from urban legends, it's not good for weak minds.

    Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda, noted:

    "The Fuhrer is deeply religous, though completely anti-Christian. He views Christianity as a symptom of decay. Rightly so. It is a branch of the Jewish race... Both [Judaism and Christianity] have no point of contact to the animal element, and thus, in the end, they will be destroyed."

    "Gott mit uns" -- or "God with us", in English. Which conception of god is being referred to is of course not specified. Nazism did have some attachment to old pagan gods and even Allah found some favour.

    Adolf Hitler was politically astute enough to maintain some public distance between himself and the Neo-Pagan ideologues of the Nazi Party. But he was not far from them at heart. After his death documentation became available showing that Hitler had approved grandiose plans to wean the German churches away from Christianity and into the Neo-Pagan fold. To quote Shirer in The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich:

    "...under the leadership of Rosenberg, Bormann and Himmler, who were backed by Hitler, the Nazi regime intended eventually to destroy Christianity in Germany, if it could, and substitute the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists. As Bormann, one of the men closest to Hitler, said publicly in 1941, 'National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable.'
  • Thom Payne Chokmah 2012/12/09 04:26:35
    Thom Payne
    +2
    Do you have a source for this crap or did you just pull it out of where it smells like?
  • Chokmah Thom Payne 2012/12/09 04:56:53
    Chokmah
    What the Hitler government envisioned for Germany was clearly set out in a thirty-point program for the 'National Reich Church' drawn up during the war by Rosenberg, an outspoken pagan...

    "The National Reich Church of Germany categorically claims the exclusive right and the exclusive power to control all churches within the borders of the Reich: it declares these to be national churches of the German Reich.

    "The National Church is determined to exterminate irrevocably...the strange and foreign Christian faiths imported into Germany in the ill-omened year 800...

    "The National Church has no scribes, pastors, chaplains or priests, but National Reich orators are to speak in them.

    "The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible in Germany...'"

    "On the altars there must be nothing but 'Mein Kampf' (to the German nation and therefore to God the most sacred book) and to the left of the altar a sword.

    "On the day of its foundation, the Christian Cross must be removed from all churches, cathedrals and chapels...and it must be superseded by the only unconquerable symbol, the swastika."

    (The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, by William L. Shirer, p. 240 in some editions, p. 332 in others. Chapter headed "Triumph and Consolidation", subsection "The Persecution of the Christian Churches")
  • Thom Payne Chokmah 2012/12/09 11:34:39
    Thom Payne
    +1
    Are you arguing with me that Hitler didn't use Christianity and the Church for his political designs? What you are describing is an end result of those designs.

    He DID use the Christianity and the Church just as the modern American rightwing is doing in their attempt to meld the Bible, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence creating a State which should be revered and Christian Theocracy.
  • Chokmah Thom Payne 2012/12/09 18:30:44
    Chokmah
    Hitler and the Nazis did use religion, all the Churches in Germany were used. The first thing Hitler did in Poland was to execute priests and nuns. Just as Lenin (Blank), Bronstein (Trotsky) and Kaganovich murdered millions of Christians, so did the Nazis.

    Hitler wanted a neo-Pagan, Nordic natural religion to supplant christianity but first had to use the churches to get what he wanted.
  • Chokmah Thom Payne 2012/12/09 03:05:34
    Chokmah
    Communism outlaws labor unions, except those run by the State. So does National Socialism.
    Both communism and Nazism hate Christianity.
  • Thom Payne Chokmah 2012/12/09 04:22:49
    Thom Payne
    +2
    No, Communism does not. Communism also does not provide slave labor to increase corporate profits.

    Gott Mit Uns

    I think you need to get better educated.
  • Chokmah Thom Payne 2012/12/09 05:00:23
    Chokmah
    Are you pulling this out of your stink hole? Where do you get your sh*t a## ideas?

    But wait! You haven't read a thing I wrote above..... go back and learn something.
  • Thom Payne Chokmah 2012/12/09 11:35:26
    Thom Payne
    +1
    I read it.

    As I said, you have not countered my statement AND you need to get better educated.
  • jack_kazim 2012/12/08 08:23:58
    neither
    jack_kazim
    He combined many authoritarian policies, left and right.
  • Chokmah jack_kazim 2012/12/09 02:19:20
    Chokmah
    Myth: Hitler was a rightist.

    The rise of fascism and communism illustrated vividly the fallacies of the linear conception of Right and Left. In certain basic respects - a totalitarian state structure, a single party, a leader, a secret police, a hatred of political, cultural and intellectual freedom - fascism and communism are clearly more like each other than they are like anything in between. This dilemma drove Prof. DeWitt C. Poole to an inspired suggestion. Right and Left, he said, should be conceived, not in terms of a line, but in terms of a circle, with the extremes of Right and Left - fascism and communism - meeting at the bottom. You can then look at the circle in two ways: with respect to property, fascism and the moderate Right are side by side against communism and the moderate Left; with respect to liberty, the moderate Right and moderate Left are side by side against fascism and communism.
  • Kookieless The Sexy Nihilis... 2012/12/08 04:37:30 (edited)
  • Mrkando Kookiel... 2012/12/08 05:07:32
    Mrkando
    +11
    WOW! Now that is a mouth full and very well said. And Oh so true!
  • Jesterz Kookiel... 2012/12/08 06:09:43 (edited)
    Jesterz
    +8
    You nailed it perfectly... Any argument fails when confronted to this...

    You know what saddens me? All this doesn't fit into a 140 characters line... I'm willing to bet a year's salary that most (if not all) who already think he was leftist will not even bother to read and learn... They'll keep repeating the same nonsense about "it's called national-SOCIALISM for a reason duh!!"...They made up their mind and no amount of truth will enlight them... That is also a right-wing trait IMO...

    It sadden me because I see more and more people chosing the lazy path... If it doesn't fit into a 140 character punch line, it isn't worth reading. .. Everything is being reduced to fundamentally empty slogans...

    So sad...
  • Archer ... Kookiel... 2012/12/08 12:49:37
    Archer ~ The Limit Break of PHAET
    +6
    Long, but beautifully stated.
  • hippycat Kookiel... 2012/12/08 14:51:20
    hippycat
    +3
    Thanks you so much for this post. It is the best post I have read about this topic. It scares me to see that so many people here on SH are willing to distort facts about the worst time in modern history to suit their political aims.
  • Chokmah Kookiel... 2012/12/09 02:18:30
    Chokmah
    The rise of fascism and communism illustrated vividly the fallacies of the linear conception of Right and Left. In certain basic respects - a totalitarian state structure, a single party, a leader, a secret police, a hatred of political, cultural and intellectual freedom - fascism and communism are clearly more like each other than they are like anything in between. This dilemma drove Prof. DeWitt C. Poole to an inspired suggestion. Right and Left, he said, should be conceived, not in terms of a line, but in terms of a circle, with the extremes of Right and Left - fascism and communism - meeting at the bottom. You can then look at the circle in two ways: with respect to property, fascism and the moderate Right are side by side against communism and the moderate Left; with respect to liberty, the moderate Right and moderate Left are side by side against fascism and communism.
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