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Steelangel 凸 Metal Up 凸 2012/04/22 14:16:54

'Title 10 Amendment' could devastate historic aircraft fleet



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April 18, 2012 - EAA and the Warbirds of America are joining with the Commemorative Air Force, Collings Foundation, and other warbird groups in opposition of a proposed amendment to the House National Defense Authorization Act (H.R. 4310) that could have a devastating effect on the fleet of civilian-operated historic military aircraft.

The amendment introduced by Rep. Michael Turner (R-OH) would bar the Department of Defense from loaning or gifting any U.S. military aircraft or parts to any entity except those that would put the aircraft on static display, such as in a museum. The amendment would preclude the aircraft from being loaned to private individuals, associations, or museums where there is any intent of flying the historic vintage warbirds, even at air shows or demonstrations of support for veterans.

Military branches such as the U.S. Air Force often do not donate aircraft to private groups outright; they instead "loan" them under a Defense Department provision, Section 2572 of Title 10, to individuals and groups for indefinite periods. These private individuals and groups usually restore and operate the aircraft at their own expense to demonstrate these pieces of flying history to events such as EAA AirVenture Oshkosh.


"The Department of Defense has made numerous attempts through the years to preclude any former military aircraft from being flown in civilian hands," said Doug Macnair, EAA's vice president of government relations. "This view has never been supported by any safety or security imperative and is currently being couched as a move to supposedly 'preserve' rare military aircraft. We can be assured that the U.S. military has neither the funding nor the mandate to preserve these aircraft in flying condition, which would leave the only option for them to be used as static museum displays. That would truly be a tragedy and a loss of our aviation and military heritage."

Rep. Turner's district includes Dayton, Ohio, home of the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force, which has been adamant in its attempts to ground former U.S. military aircraft. Ironically, Dayton is the same site where this week more than 20 B-25 bombers - preserved and flown by private groups and individuals - are gathering in a public spectacle to honor the 70th anniversary of the famed Doolittle Raid on Japan.

EAA and the other warbird groups are working with staff in the House's Armed Services Committee and Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, as well as the House General Aviation Caucus as the Defense Authorization Bill goes into initial committee review next week and to the House floor in early May. Although the exact language of the amendment has not been shared with the aviation community or widely on Capitol Hill, Rep. Turner plans to push the amendment despite initial congressional opposition.

EAA and Warbirds of America recommend that members contact their congressional representatives, urging them to voice their opposition to the Turner amendment and in support of maintaining the private ability to restore and fly these historic aircraft.

Read More: http://eaa.org/news/2012/2012-04-18_title10.asp

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  • Ssgtwaldo 2012/04/22 14:47:57 (edited)
    Ssgtwaldo
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    WTF.... Over!

    What is the reason for DODs action? If it's for safety reasons that's BS. I know some of the owners of restored warbirds and they take better care of them than the military did and are many times ex military pilots... This is totally bogus!!!

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  • Steelangel 凸 Metal Up 凸 2012/04/28 16:03:52
  • eric campbell 2012/04/24 20:56:55
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    Last summer at EAA Airventure I had the privilege of meeting a veteran waiting to visit FIFI. I escorted the man and his son to the head of the line and asked the Greeter to extend a courtesy to the veteran. Would he allow him to visit his old position on this B29? The veteran told us he had 34 missions to his credit. He and his son were permitted to make their way through the fuselage to his old familiar position in the tail. The next day I learned that he had had a very emotional moment and truly treasured the opportunity to share some memories with his son.

    FIFI and all the warbirds that fly to air shows, allow us re-live history with those who actually lived it. Keep the Warbirds flying!


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  • S. Gompers 2012/04/23 05:36:12
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    Sounds rather unpatriotic, but they grow some weirdo's here in Ohio.
  • jumpboots 187th PIR 2012/04/23 01:20:06
  • Steelan... jumpboo... 2012/04/28 16:06:49
    Steelangel 凸 Metal Up 凸
    Yip! Even the Zero, lol.. Thanks for those awesome birds....
  • jumpboo... Steelan... 2012/04/28 19:06:56
    jumpboots 187th PIR
    +1
    My Uncle was a Bombardier in the A-26,,,,,,Flew out of England..
  • Steelan... jumpboo... 2012/04/29 20:45:07 (edited)
    Steelangel 凸 Metal Up 凸
    Bet they had to deal with the ME109's. Please visit my friend MickieDee's
    website http://johnpdeffinger.com/
  • jumpboo... Steelan... 2012/04/30 00:33:13
    jumpboots 187th PIR
    +1
    Thank you,great site.
  • Kiosk Kid 2012/04/23 00:36:28
    Kiosk Kid
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    Just think about it. Americans won't be able to fly these American war planes but every one else in the world will.

    American logic just isn't what it use to be.
  • Thor American EXPAT n New G... 2012/04/22 23:14:30
    Thor American EXPAT n New Guinea
    +1
    Typical move of a politician. 'Act without thought' Introduce another usless STUPID law. That hurts more than it helps.

    We have the same thing in housing. They won't allow an upgade due to "Historical" reasons but the city & states don't spend a nickle on upkeep so they just sit and rot until they collapse and are dozed under.
  • gary ® 2012/04/22 23:00:44
    gary ®
    +1
    So what the hell is wrong with this guy? Is the museum worried about something, like people won't come to the museum if we can watch the "real thing" fly? Nobody is losing anything by letting these planes fly. Nothing makes sense anymore.
  • Farnsworth 2012/04/22 22:51:45
    Farnsworth
    +2
    sounds like the government is concerned about a civilian force having war planes....interesting
  • DoxieDad 2012/04/22 22:22:30
    DoxieDad
    +2
    The military has their ball and bat and nobody else should be allowed to play with them, except for the military. There is no reasonable excuse for this and Rep Turner should be deluged with mail telling him so. The Air Force museum in Dayton is a wonderful place and should be seen by all Americans. That said, the opportunity to see these vintage aircraft still flying and so well preserved for future generations at air shows should be aloud to continue. As long as the aircraft are not available for armaments I don't see the problem.
  • Denny 2012/04/22 22:10:44
    Denny
    +1
    While stationed at Wright Pat back in the 60's, with the way we snuck in for parts from the "static displays" I guess I can see their attitude. This isn't going anywhere.
  • MickieDee 2012/04/22 21:51:22
    MickieDee
    +2
    You bet there's opposition to this silly ass proposed amendment. Be interesting to know 'the exact language of the amendment' which hasn't been shared with the aviation community or widely on Capitol Hill. No WAY this one can get very far!!!
  • EDWARD G 2012/04/22 21:47:14
    EDWARD G
    +2
    I am familiar with several of these groups and they have raised millions of dollars to restore these aircraft. Typical politician, if it works, break it.
  • JanHopkins 2012/04/22 16:13:18
    JanHopkins
    +2
    The military has vast rusting graveyards of these noble birds. It is only due to civilian groups that we ever get to see them in flight. I am against this law.
  • SteveMarine- JLA 2012/04/22 16:04:33
    SteveMarine- JLA
    +1
    This is a shame.... Rather park em at a some museum to collect dust....then be taken care of and honorably maintained by people who appreciate them....such b.s. if the D.O.D is worried about security they need to kick obama out.... I bet part of their worry is....if there was ever a civil war against the government we would use these retired air craft as weapons.... You think ? Who knows...
  • Steelan... SteveMa... 2012/04/22 16:25:14 (edited)
    Steelangel 凸 Metal Up 凸
    +2
    I get the nose turret and the Ma Deuces! nose turret and the Ma Deuces
  • Ssgtwaldo 2012/04/22 14:47:57 (edited)
    Ssgtwaldo
    +4
    WTF.... Over!

    What is the reason for DODs action? If it's for safety reasons that's BS. I know some of the owners of restored warbirds and they take better care of them than the military did and are many times ex military pilots... This is totally bogus!!!
  • MickieDee Ssgtwaldo 2012/04/22 21:46:52
    MickieDee
    +1
    That's what I'd like to know...what is the reason behind this crackpot decision.
  • Thor Am... MickieDee 2012/04/22 23:17:16
    Thor American EXPAT n New Guinea
    +1
    Follow the money trail. You will eventually find the REAL answer.

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